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Location: USA | Ok, how many of y'all own paints? I'm looking at one right now, and he literally has 3 paints on his pedigree - everyone else is QH and TB. He's breeding stock. I hate how he can't be registered with AQHA bc of having 3 "relatives" that were paints. Is it me or do paints just not sell as well? I'm hesitant to buy this guy bc I'm afraid if/when I resell him down the road, the resale value won't be there because he's a paint. He's bred really nice, which may help tip the scales (it is for me), but . . . what are everyone's opinions on paints?
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  That's White "Man" to You
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| They sell just fine. Just like most geldings, his resell value will come from his ability and training. If he has neither of those two, he would be a tough sell even if he had AQHA papers. If we were talking about a broodmare I would have answered this differently. |
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| I just bought my first paint. She's colored though. I have no problem with breeding stock paints - I don't care if they have purple polka dots if they can win (if I'm looking for a barrel horse) or are safe (if I'm looking for a kids horse). |
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| I really dont think it effects resale too much, espicaly on quality broke horses. Ive sold a few paints and they always sold fast. Most people that are competing dont reall care so long as they get to the pay window. (The people I know anyway unless they have huge broodmare plans after showing)
However just like anything some people swear by them others swear at them. |
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 Scorpions R Us
Posts: 9586
Location: So. Cali. | I dont think it affects resale. Like anything else, if hes proven and has good lines, then he can be sold.
I have a paint, best teacher Ive ever had. He is out of a racing Quarter horse mare and a Champion Halter Paint Stallion. I believe if I went a few lines back on his Paint size it just goes to all Quarters as well.
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 I'm Cooler Offline
Posts: 6387
Location: Pacific Northwest | We've had two paints...a sorrel tobiano gelding and a solid buckskin mare. The gelding was never for sale but I doubt we would have had a problem considering all of the offers my dad got at rodeos. The mare I just put up for sale and I don't think having APHA papers is going to hurt her. She's very green and the QHs she has aren't great so she isn't a broodmare prospect to begin with haha. The fact that she's such a pretty buckskin actually worries me because I do NOT want people buying her to breed for color...I've had way too many people already ask me why I don't just "keep her and breed her".
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Location: Paradise , tx | I have a paint mare now, had another one years ago, and when I decided to sell her she sold faster than any other horse I ever sold. |
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Location: Northern CA | I bought a BSP this spring. I am totally not a paint fan, but this horse was by the same sire as two of my others out of a well bred mare that happened to be paint. Can't tell that he is a paint, only downfall is I can't show at the local AQHA. |
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Location: Missouri | The new barrel racing incentives are making it nice to run a paint! Can't wait until mine's going!
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| just4fun - 2014-06-10 4:58 PM
The new barrel racing incentives are making it nice to run a paint! Can't wait until mine's going!
What are the new incentives? I havent had a paint for about 3 years now. |
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Worst.Housekeeper.EVER.
Location: Missouri | della - 2014-06-10 6:01 PM just4fun - 2014-06-10 4:58 PM The new barrel racing incentives are making it nice to run a paint! Can't wait until mine's going!
What are the new incentives? I havent had a paint for about 3 years now.
Side pots for APHA horses:
http://www.apha.com/official-apha-rules/pbrip
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 There Could Be Aliens Out There
Posts: 1393
Location: North Central Kansas | Never thought I would own a paint horse, but right now I have 2 of them! I don't think that they have a lower resell value or sell for less because they're paints. As someone else mentioned there is paint incentive now that some larger shows are letting you enter in as a sidepot. |
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 Ms. Marine
Posts: 4627
Location: Texas | All I've ever had were paints. Never had a problem with selling the ones that I did sell. The others, I still have. |
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Elite Veteran
Posts: 974
Location: USA | Awesome y'all are giving me hope!!!! |
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Rad Dork
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Location: Oklahoma | When I was looking for a horse (just recently) I looked at a couple of paints and I'd say that they were priced right alongside with the quarter horses. The PBRIP sounds like a great opportunity. I won't be actively seeking "paints only" the next time I'm shopping, but I wouldn't shy away from one. |
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Expert
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Location: Texas | I'm interested too in those incentive races because I just bought a PBS gelding last week. Granted, he is a yearling & it will be a long while before he will be entered in barrel races, but I'm curious if those incentives are for full reg. (color) paints only, or can solid paint bred earn points/$? |
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Expert
Posts: 1280
Location: Texas | I guess this answers the eligibility question:
ALL APHA registered horses foaled prior to January 1, 2013 will be allowed to participate in PBRIP.
ALL FOALS FOALED ON OR AFTER JANUARY 1, 2013 MUST COMPLY WITH ANY OF THE FOLLOWING REQUIREMENTS TO BE ELIGIBLE.
2. ALL Regular registered horses foaled on or after January 1, 2013 will be allowed to participate in PBRIP.
3. ALL Solid Paint-Bred registered horses foaled on or after January 1, 2013 must have at least one Regular Registry Paint Horse in the first generation and at least one Regular Registry Paint Horse in the second generation OR two Regular Registry Paint Horses in the first generation. |
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 Gotta Have a Gray
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Location: Tex. Panhandle | Our last 3 have been solid paints. I still have my mare (sorrel w/a blaze) and black (w/a blaze). I sold the palomino to a client from CO. She was in love the minute she rode him. Never would have been able to tell any of the 3 were anything other then QH except when you looked at their papers. I'm actually looking at another 4 yr old thats a paint to. Resell will not be a prob on an of the ones that we have, if we decided to sell. |
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 Accident Prone
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | I have 2 solid paints and absolutely adore them. One is basically a QH with paint papers and the other is about 75% QH lines. I tend to forget they are paints--I think I told the vet they were QHs when he was doing their coggins. LOL |
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 I too, shall remain nameless!
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Location: Wearing a winter coat...... | I bred my mare to Sky High Fame last year and got a beautiful painted up filly. She is not for sale but it is funny that I have had 2 other foals out of her and everyone wants to buy this one. I have had 3 offers on her. So, this being my first APHA breeding ...... I would say that good ones are selling just fine.
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| All we raise are paints. We breed them to our own son of Sun Frost and who is out of an own daughter or Rocket Wrangler. All of the mares I run are paint, they're no slower, no stupider, and are just as good as QH... Pistol Packin Hero is a paint, Sun Spoiled Yogurt is to. Our brood mares are all spotted up, Kodachrome Miss is a 3x world champion producer and dam of 5 AAA running horses. Miss Hero is a world champion running mare, who is the dam of 1d barrel horses, Katys Luck has APHA team roping points and is the dam to 1d barrel horses! When people put paints on a "Lower Class Level) Kinda gets me going... What I don't understand is when people pay the big cash for Geldings, especially at a young age!  |
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Location: Alberta | My first really good barrel horse was a paint. But he was a solid chestnut. The fact that he was registered as a paint didn't deter my dad from originally buying him for my brother. I don't think that we would have ever sold him (we ended up putting him down because he almost cut a foot off in a wire fence).
My mom bought a paint horse that she broke to ride. I tried training him on barrels but it just didn't work, he hated it. But he was one of the best rope horses we owned. You could head, heel, calf rope and breakaway on him. We ended up trading him for a really good calf horse.
I've seen a lot of people run paints and some of them will kick your ass any day of the week, the others not so much. I think it depends on how good they are at their job affects their value when you do go to sell them. Personally I prefer the running bred quarter horses, but if I came across a paint that showed potential I would consider buying it. |
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Location: fun meter pegged OK | whohasaplan - 2014-06-11 9:42 AM I bred my mare to Sky High Fame last year and got a beautiful painted up filly. She is not for sale but it is funny that I have had 2 other foals out of her and everyone wants to buy this one. I have had 3 offers on her. So, this being my first APHA breeding ...... I would say that good ones are selling just fine. Enough said - him and Treasured - Jim had the 2 top of the line APHAs that had proved themselves!
ETA - Forgot to add Judys Lineage another top APHA
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 Angel in a Sorrel Coat
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Location: In a happy place | I have loved the paints I have owned. And been beat by some good ones. |
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Location: Tyler, Texas | Many of todays Paints are QH with color. Paints are holding their value very well, and if you plan on competing with the horse he should do nothing but increase in value. I wouldnt hesitate to buy one  |
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 Night Watchman
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Location: Central Montana | I have a solid paint - I've had her since she was about 3 months old. She is 8 this year, well broke, started with a reining trainer, shown in western classes, started on barrels and poles, just not finished in anything.
A lot of speed mixed with some performance/cow
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/playgirl+with+cash
At three after 60 days riding - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwSwcu9jpIs
Just a few weeks ago https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kl_XRni9IoE
Put her up for sale many months ago to buy a reiner, reiner I bought turns out isn't 100% sound (had him checked before buying) so I took her off the market until I have him ready to show.
My last seasoned horse was also a solid paint that I bought from 1Left2Right. I had her for several years and she is now with a family who's daughter just qualified for the National Jr. Rodeo in IA.
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