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| Which one is better for putting weight on ? Which one would be better for an older horse who can chew hay but is starting to lose some teeth .. I have both products in my barn . I used beet pulp last winter & it really put the weight on. I just started using alfalfa cubes on my hard keeping mare .. only bc she decided she didnt like the beet pulp anymore .. So I was just wondering which one people liked better ! Thanks! |
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Location: southeast Texas | Third option, Renew Gold,,,,,,With alfalfa and or cubes
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| roxieannie - 2014-06-16 11:23 AM
Third option, Renew Gold,,,,,,With alfalfa and or cubes
This is what I am fixin' to try on an old ranch horse. |
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | I mix it. The beet pellets I soak just look so plain and ickky. The smell is blah so I add a few alfalfa pellets and soak together. So far they love it. I kept an old gelding of my husband's alive on beet and alfalfa pellets soaked with some oats and Purina Amplify. He looked amazing for his final 8 or so yrs. He passed on Easter at 28yrs old. I give my pony a little bit soaked and add ADM SeniorGLO to his. Like 2 lbs. He's picking up. He is starting to get some loose teeth. Vets figure him to be in his late 20's. |
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| Mix 'em. :) |
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| Thanks guys , keep the opinions coming ! My younger mare doesn't like the beet pulp , so I can't mix hers :/ she gets 3 lbs a day of the alfalfa cubes . The older horse would probably eat it mixed.. He is currently getting 2 lbs a day of beet pulp along with his ADM seniorGLO & grass hay . How many lbs of alfalfa cubes would you add with his beet pulp ? I'd like to just have them all on beet pulp .. I find it easier to soak & deal with .. But the princess won't eat it anymore .. |
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Location: Here | Fancy Lass - 2014-06-16 11:01 AM Which one is better for putting weight on ? Which one would be better for an older horse who can chew hay but is starting to lose some teeth .. I have both products in my barn . I used beet pulp last winter & it really put the weight on. I just started using alfalfa cubes on my hard keeping mare .. only bc she decided she didnt like the beet pulp anymore .. So I was just wondering which one people liked better ! Thanks!
Both. I prefer Beet Pulp though |
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Location: Up and over to the right | Rice bran pellets put the weight on without any crazy behavior. |
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| I mix both. I started with beet pulp then figured I was already soaking it so why not toss in some cubes. The cubes I get are like 1/2 alfalfa 1/2 timothy. |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | I would also give both.
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Location: stray dump capital of the world | I feed my senior horses both alfalfa cubes (soaked) and beet pulp (soaked) + rice bran mixed in their senior feed. It makes a nice slurp for them and we laugh watching them lick their bowls. They are plump and healthy. |
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| I love rice bran too! But of course my dumb mare won't eat that either .. She's soo aggravating .. Her adm seniorGLO is about all she wants ! She used to absolutely love beet pulp in the winter.. And now doesn't want it .. Anyone ever had one not eat it in the summer time ? Idk why that's be .. But she's just weird ! |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | Fancy Lass - 2014-06-16 8:30 PM I love rice bran too! But of course my dumb mare won't eat that either .. She's soo aggravating .. Her adm seniorGLO is about all she wants ! She used to absolutely love beet pulp in the winter.. And now doesn't want it .. Anyone ever had one not eat it in the summer time ? Idk why that's be .. But she's just weird !
I just recently cut way back on the Beet Pulp because he was leaving it. |
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| Nevertooold - 2014-06-16 8:46 PM
Fancy Lass - 2014-06-16 8:30 PM I love rice bran too! But of course my dumb mare won't eat that either .. She's soo aggravating .. Her adm seniorGLO is about all she wants ! She used to absolutely love beet pulp in the winter.. And now doesn't want it .. Anyone ever had one not eat it in the summer time ? Idk why that's be .. But she's just weird !
I just recently cut way back on the Beet Pulp because he was leaving it.
Ok thanks! Thats good to know :) she's probably just full then .. |
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Location: Here | Fancy Lass - 2014-06-16 8:30 PM I love rice bran too! But of course my dumb mare won't eat that either .. She's soo aggravating .. Her adm seniorGLO is about all she wants ! She used to absolutely love beet pulp in the winter.. And now doesn't want it .. Anyone ever had one not eat it in the summer time ? Idk why that's be .. But she's just weird ! You love rice bran or your horse does  If your horse wont' eat it then your horse is telling you something. Personally I am not a rice bran fan
Beet pulp is a heavy fiber product in being so it produces heat in the gut from being broken down. I only feed beet pulp at night in the summer and about 1/2 of what they get in the winter because they don't need the "warmth" from it
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| SG. - 2014-06-16 9:10 PM
Fancy Lass - 2014-06-16 8:30 PM I love rice bran too! But of course my dumb mare won't eat that either .. She's soo aggravating .. Her adm seniorGLO is about all she wants ! She used to absolutely love beet pulp in the winter.. And now doesn't want it .. Anyone ever had one not eat it in the summer time ? Idk why that's be .. But she's just weird ! You love rice bran or your horse does If your horse wont' eat it then your horse is telling you something. Personally I am not a rice bran fan
Beet pulp is a heavy fiber product in being so it produces heat in the gut from being broken down. I only feed beet pulp at night in the summer and about 1/2 of what they get in the winter because they don't need the "warmth" from it
Gotcha ;) this makes perfect sense ! Ill just get her to eat what I can .. But it's not much lol |
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Location: Here | Fancy Lass - 2014-06-16 9:22 PM SG. - 2014-06-16 9:10 PM Fancy Lass - 2014-06-16 8:30 PM I love rice bran too! But of course my dumb mare won't eat that either .. She's soo aggravating .. Her adm seniorGLO is about all she wants ! She used to absolutely love beet pulp in the winter.. And now doesn't want it .. Anyone ever had one not eat it in the summer time ? Idk why that's be .. But she's just weird ! You love rice bran or your horse does If your horse wont' eat it then your horse is telling you something. Personally I am not a rice bran fan
Beet pulp is a heavy fiber product in being so it produces heat in the gut from being broken down. I only feed beet pulp at night in the summer and about 1/2 of what they get in the winter because they don't need the "warmth" from it Gotcha ; ) this makes perfect sense ! Ill just get her to eat what I can .. But it's not much lol
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Location: California | My old mare colicked bad last August and probably dropped 100 pounds. I never thought I'd get the weight back on her because she is 35 years old. Luckily she has all her teeth so that helps a great deal. I free feed her alfalfa hay and two times a day I give her a big bucket of mush made up of one cup soaked beet pulp, three large scoops of all in one (also called alfalfa molasses) and three scoops of equine senior. This seems to be the perfect recipe for her right now, but I frequently have to make subtle changes adding more beet pulp or less grain etc. She is happy to let me know what she's feels like eating :-)
Edited to add she looks really really good considering her age and everything she's been through. I give a lot of credit to the best pulp as
that seems to be her favorite!
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| Something to consider regarding the horse leaving beet pulp now that it's warmer out - is it possible that you are soaking it too long, and its getting rancid before you feed it? Especially in the hot months, beet pulp can go bad quickly. She may be turning up her nose because it smells off.
Some things worth mentioning when comparing the two:
Alfalfa cubes are considered long stem forage, so can directly replace hay in it's entirety if you needed to do so.
While beet pulp is highly digestible fiber, it's not considered long stem forage(and neither are the alfalfa pellets). However, many toothless horses have lived on a diet comprised only of beet pulp and senior feed.
In terms of calories per pound, they are quite similar. Of course the exact calories/lb depends on the brand, but generally beet pulp is around 900-1000 calories/lb, and alfalfa is also right around 900-1000 calories/lb.
So really, in terms of calories, they are similar. If your mare will eat alfalfa cubes, just make sure you feed her the same amount (by weight) that you were feeding the beet pulp in order to keep her in the same shape.
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Location: Florida.. | same here I soak the cubes for 15 minutes or so to get mushy but beet pulp not for long at all.. |
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| SuckerForHorses - 2014-06-17 7:24 AM
Something to consider regarding the horse leaving beet pulp now that it's warmer out - is it possible that you are soaking it too long, and its getting rancid before you feed it? Especially in the hot months, beet pulp can go bad quickly. She may be turning up her nose because it smells off.
Some things worth mentioning when comparing the two:
Alfalfa cubes are considered long stem forage, so can directly replace hay in it's entirety if you needed to do so.
While beet pulp is highly digestible fiber, it's not considered long stem forage(and neither are the alfalfa pellets). However, many toothless horses have lived on a diet comprised only of beet pulp and senior feed.
In terms of calories per pound, they are quite similar. Of course the exact calories/lb depends on the brand, but generally beet pulp is around 900-1000 calories/lb, and alfalfa is also right around 900-1000 calories/lb.
So really, in terms of calories, they are similar. If your mare will eat alfalfa cubes, just make sure you feed her the same amount (by weight) that you were feeding the beet pulp in order to keep her in the same shape.
I don't think so. In the morning I soak it for about 10 minutes .. Then on the pm it only soaks for about 5 mins . Good point though ! Problem is she won't eat much .. So if she doesn't eat it right away I'm sure it does go bad .. But I will play around with amounts & see what she'll clean up .. I'm good at weighing things , so she always gets the same amount :) |
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Location: Winging It in KY | ChasingCans04 - 2014-06-16 3:45 PM Rice bran pellets put the weight on without any crazy behavior.
Is the beet pulp, in moderation, going to cause crazy behavior? |
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| cuckleburr - 2014-06-17 11:25 AM
ChasingCans04 - 2014-06-16 3:45 PM Rice bran pellets put the weight on without any crazy behavior.
Is the beet pulp, in moderation, going to cause crazy behavior?
I have never had beet pulp cause crazy behavior .. And trust me if it made anything crazy it would be my hot head mare lol & she got alot of it in the winter time . It sure put the bloom on her ! |
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Location: Here | cuckleburr - 2014-06-17 11:25 AM ChasingCans04 - 2014-06-16 3:45 PM Rice bran pellets put the weight on without any crazy behavior. Is the beet pulp, in moderation, going to cause crazy behavior?
Nope Never had that affect in many years of feeding it |
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| Beet pulp should not cause any hotness. It's very low in sugar and high in digestible fiber. |
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Location: SD | 3 parts senior feed + 1 part beet pulp + 1 part alfalfa pellets. Mix all together and add water until it comes to the top of the feed. I successfully fed this ration to a senior gelding with almost no teeth. You can break feedings into 3-4 a day if needed. At most, I fed 9 pounds of senior feed and 3 pounds each of beet pulp and alfalfa pellets and my gelding was able to maintain a nice weight and he looked healthy. |
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| Soo the picky horse actually really likes the two mixed together! I've been giving her 1 lb of beet pulp mixed with half a lb of alfalfa cubes am & pm. How much does every one else feed /mix ? |
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| Fancy Lass - 2014-06-16 11:01 AM
Which one is better for putting weight on ? Which one would be better for an older horse who can chew hay but is starting to lose some teeth .. I have both products in my barn . I used beet pulp last winter & it really put the weight on. I just started using alfalfa cubes on my hard keeping mare .. only bc she decided she didnt like the beet pulp anymore .. So I was just wondering which one people liked better ! Thanks!
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You can't compare the two ...
ALFALFA is an actual legume with good food values and meant to be fed to horses and livestock as a high end feed ....
BEET PULP is nothing but a waste product from human food processing and you never know how much heavy metals and processing residues that are harmful to a horse are in each bag. ... beet pulp is nothing but a higher profit fiber filler for milling companies ... Think along these lines .... if shredded and pelleted can sit in a barn for 3-4 years and not get eaten by bugs ... why would you even consider feeding it to your horses....
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Location: Here | BARRELHORSE USA - 2014-06-21 2:22 AM Fancy Lass - 2014-06-16 11:01 AM Which one is better for putting weight on ? Which one would be better for an older horse who can chew hay but is starting to lose some teeth .. I have both products in my barn . I used beet pulp last winter & it really put the weight on. I just started using alfalfa cubes on my hard keeping mare .. only bc she decided she didnt like the beet pulp anymore .. So I was just wondering which one people liked better ! Thanks! ******************************************************* You can't compare the two ... ALFALFA is an actual legume with good food values and meant to be fed to horses and livestock as a high end feed .... BEET PULP is nothing but a waste product from human food processing and you never know how much heavy metals and processing residues that are harmful to a horse are in each bag. ... beet pulp is nothing but a higher profit fiber filler for milling companies ... Think along these lines .... if shredded and pelleted can sit in a barn for 3-4 years and not get eaten by bugs ... why would you even consider feeding it to your horses....
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Location: Florida.. | SG. - 2014-06-21 8:20 AM BARRELHORSE USA - 2014-06-21 2:22 AM Fancy Lass - 2014-06-16 11:01 AM Which one is better for putting weight on ? Which one would be better for an older horse who can chew hay but is starting to lose some teeth .. I have both products in my barn . I used beet pulp last winter & it really put the weight on. I just started using alfalfa cubes on my hard keeping mare .. only bc she decided she didnt like the beet pulp anymore .. So I was just wondering which one people liked better ! Thanks! ******************************************************* You can't compare the two ... ALFALFA is an actual legume with good food values and meant to be fed to horses and livestock as a high end feed .... BEET PULP is nothing but a waste product from human food processing and you never know how much heavy metals and processing residues that are harmful to a horse are in each bag. ... beet pulp is nothing but a higher profit fiber filler for milling companies ... Think along these lines .... if shredded and pelleted can sit in a barn for 3-4 years and not get eaten by bugs ... why would you even consider feeding it to your horses....
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Location: East Tennessee but who knows?! | I have that the beet pulp works better for stretching hay and the alfalfa works better for weight & muscle. I feed both for those two reasons.
A couple months ago I put my old horse on chaffhaye which is basically an alfalfa silage. He's done phenomenally well on it and I'm only feeding him about 3 pounds per day.
Here's the link to my blog (Old Horses & Hard Keepers Post) that has his picture and what he's getting. His teeth are up to date and he still quids on stuff.
http://qheventer.wordpress.com/
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| Thanks guys :) ill figure out what works I guess .. I too believe beet pulp is safe & healthy for horses . It's never given me a reason not to like it . |
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