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    Location: Up North | I cannot get my mare to run between the barrels. I have placed my barrels far apart so she can speed up, I smooch, kiss, kick. I breeze her. I know she can run. She litteraly lopes between them, and still clocks in the 1D. What am I missing or doing wrong?
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    Location: Midwest | Here's what you do: Tie her up facing the pattern and run on foot as fast as you can. Really show her what to do
Make sure you post a video here so I can tell you if you are doing it right. |
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| barrelracr131 - 2014-06-18 11:25 AM Here's what you do: Tie her up facing the pattern and run on foot as fast as you can. Really show her what to do
Make sure you post a video here so I can tell you if you are doing it right.
Some horses learn by doing but many learn by seeing. One thing I have learned over the years and if I remember right it was in BHN a few issues back was that it is best if you can make it as realistic as possible. For example you should get a small person or even your dog perhaps to sit on your back while you do it. It is the details that really make it a productive learning experience. |
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    Location: South Dakota | Maybe she is overthinking, and figures since there is a turn coming up...may as well not get too much speed built up. Are you working the pattern too much at home? I think less is more, and if she doesn't have the run in her, over hustling, kicking , whip, etc will actually slow them down..so maybe try a different approach with her...get into her head..Good luck! |
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    Location: Up North | She knows the pattern and I work her on the pattern about once every other week at home. When I do, the barrels are not always in a pattern, and I work on my approach and takeoff-always at a walk. I want the correct body position for both. Otherwise I do a lot of long trotting and loping circles. |
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             Location: WYOMING | krystin_fro - 2014-06-18 4:24 PM
She knows the pattern and I work her on the pattern about once every other week at home. When I do, the barrels are not always in a pattern, and I work on my approach and takeoff-always at a walk. I want the correct body position for both. Otherwise I do a lot of long trotting and loping circles.
Maybe its time to work your exit with some speed and urgency. Pick a cue and do some gait transitions up using the cue. Do some short sprints usimg your cue, then when its learned that the cue means GO then work your exits. Some horses dont like to be kicked and they slow up some.
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| Also, make sure your leaving the barrels straight, when you trot ask her to speed up when your leg is passing the barrel. Other than that she may be going faster than you think since she is placing in the 1d. |
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    Location: Deep South | If she's clocking in the 1D she can't be missing too many gears.
Some horses have longer smoother strides that look and feel slow, but they are still covering ground quickly.
My only other thought to check for, is having her scoped for bleeding. Way more horses "bleed" than people are aware because not all bleeders actually have it come out their nose. But it will make them appear slightly off or sluggish. |
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| BamaCanChaser - 2014-06-18 4:20 PM If she's clocking in the 1D she can't be missing too many gears. Some horses have longer smoother strides that look and feel slow, but they are still covering ground quickly. My only other thought to check for, is having her scoped for bleeding. Way more horses "bleed" than people are aware because not all bleeders actually have it come out their nose. But it will make them appear slightly off or sluggish.
^^ This. I have a gelding that NEVER feels (or looks) like he's running hard. But he's covering a ton of ground with every stride. I also second getting her scoped for bleeding. |
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  Location: louisiana | I found with my horse if its really humid he has a little bit of trouble since hes not used to to the weather in Louisiana so I rub vicks vapor rub on the out side of his nose where you would put a flair strip an that works wonders for him,since he hates anything on his nose I cant use the flair strips on him |
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         Location: Around here somewhere... | Whiteboy - 2014-06-18 10:29 AM
barrelracr131 - 2014-06-18 11:25 AM Here's what you do: Tie her up facing the pattern and run on foot as fast as you can. Really show her what to do
Make sure you post a video here so I can tell you if you are doing it right.
Some horses learn by doing but many learn by seeing. One thing I have learned over the years and if I remember right it was in BHN a few issues back was that it is best if you can make it as realistic as possible. For example you should get a small person or even your dog perhaps to sit on your back while you do it. It is the details that really make it a productive learning experience.
While I do get the joke and live the mental... I had a horse a few years ago who would just lope the pattern no matter what I did... Until one day when I sat on him and watched the other runs before ours... That time, and from then on, he put on the speed all by himself! LoL it was as if a light bulb went off in his head... THAT'S what I'm supposed to do!!! Lol |
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         Location: Around here somewhere... | A couple of other things I do to awaken the sense of urgency- match race against other mounted horses trio awaken the horse's competitive spirit, and sprinting up steep hills to increase stride power and efficiency (springing up hills is something human racers do to train their bodies). Match racing has always worked quite well to encourage a horse's competitive spirit, but you need to let him win the first few times, then gradually make it tougher for him to win, then give him a true challenge and race your horses outright. I often sprint my horses up a steep hill while racing one of my sisters or mom, this conditions the body and mind at the same time... Then we go for a nice slow trail ride lol |
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 Location: Ky | I'm so glad someone posted this! I'm getting my older mare legged up right now and I KNOW she's a true 2d horse but she's clocking slower than 4d right now. I've tried everything it seems like. Are there any supplements to give that can give a horse a little extra edge? |
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   Location: Randolph, Utah | Could her ovaries be hurting her? You might have those checked I know I don't want to run when mine hurt me. |
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     Location: North Dakota | Find an open field with good footing or haul to a track and breeze her. I agree with the person that said race against another horse. She may not know how to run with someone on her back so you need to teach her. Once you start breezing her she should start to open up more for you on the pattern. |
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   Location: South MS | krystin_fro - 2014-06-18 11:06 AM I cannot get my mare to run between the barrels. I have placed my barrels far apart so she can speed up, I smooch, kiss, kick. I breeze her. I know she can run. She litteraly lopes between them, and still clocks in the 1D. What am I missing or doing wrong?
I would check for worms and do a blood panel, If she is anemic that could cause her not to run as hard...
If no problems or soundness issues I would hit the track and sprint her - better yet find a faster horse to send in front of her and make her catch them - make sure you are smooching, etc win sprinting her so she understands what you are wanting between the barrels |
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