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 Georgia Peach
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How many of you have had this done on a weanling? Any complications? Also, what did you pay to get it done? My vet quoted me $800 which seems high to me for a simple surgery.
Thanks!
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 Coyote Country Queen
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| How big is the hernia? I always give mine plenty of time to heal on their own and they usually close up. I have had a couple that we put a clamp on and that fixed the hernia. I have not ever had to do surgery so don't know about price or procedure. |
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| My three year old already had it done when I bought him as a weanling, so I have no idea what it cost. He wasn't handled much after so I'm Ssuming no complications. It doesn't bother him. Now that he's grown so much I can barely find it. |
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Location: Four Corners Colorado | It cost me $300 for a full grown horse. I might get a second quote.
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Georgia Peach
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Location: Georgia | Jenbabe - 2014-06-20 11:45 AM How big is the hernia? I always give mine plenty of time to heal on their own and they usually close up. I have had a couple that we put a clamp on and that fixed the hernia. I have not ever had to do surgery so don't know about price or procedure.
To me it seems pretty large but ive never even seen one on a horse before now. So I can't compare it to anything. I would say its a "three-finger hernia".
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Georgia Peach
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Location: Georgia | equussynergy - 2014-06-20 11:47 AM It cost me $300 for a full grown horse. I might get a second quote.
I was thinking this too. This vet is the one who deals with all of our repro needs and she is great and all, but thats a big chunk of change.
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  Neat Freak
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | There are cheaper ways to do it, but your big horse vets aren't going to tell you that. Call around and ask, I'm not sure what the process is called but we had one fixed years ago. They made sure the guts were pushed up in the belly, pinched the skin down and put 2 sticks or something like that on each side of the skin and banded it super tight. It keeps the guts from falling back through the hole and eventually the hole in the belly wall heals and the sticks and skin fall off. That is the short version of it. May sound bad but it was super simple, non invasive and cost under $200. |
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Georgia Peach
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Location: Georgia | wyoming barrel racer - 2014-06-20 12:15 PM There are cheaper ways to do it, but your big horse vets aren't going to tell you that. Call around and ask, I'm not sure what the process is called but we had one fixed years ago. They made sure the guts were pushed up in the belly, pinched the skin down and put 2 sticks or something like that on each side of the skin and banded it super tight. It keeps the guts from falling back through the hole and eventually the hole in the belly wall heals and the sticks and skin fall off. That is the short version of it. May sound bad but it was super simple, non invasive and cost under $200.
You're right, why would they tell me there were other options when they know I dont have a choice but to get it fixed. I will definitely give the office a call and see what they would charge me for this method. It seems just as successful as the surgery. May have to wait till the weather cools off because of the flies.
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 A Somebody to Everybody
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | I would go get another quote from a different vet thats well know. To me I would wait, alot of the time a hernia will close on its own. I had a weaning too, she had a hernia took her to my vet, he told me to bring her back as a yearling and he would check it again and it was pretty much closed by then. But if you feel like a gut could come threw then have her checked. Did the other vet that guoted the 800.00 check her out, if so did she feel like she needed it right away?
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Georgia Peach
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Location: Georgia | Southtxponygirl - 2014-06-20 12:30 PM I would go get another quote from a different vet thats well know. To me I would wait, alot of the time a hernia will close on its own. I had a weaning too, she had a hernia took her to my vet, he told me to bring her back as a yearling and he would check it again and it was pretty much closed by then. But if you feel like a gut could come threw then have her checked. Did the other vet that guoted the 800.00 check her out, if so did she feel like she needed it right away?
The vet that quoted me that amount has not seen her in person. I showed her a picture of the hernia about 3 weeks ago and she wasnt concerned at all. She told me to wait until after I wean her and then bring her into the clinic for evaluation.
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Georgia Peach
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This is what it looks like at this point....and it's not getting any smaller.
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A Somebody to Everybody
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Runninbay - 2014-06-20 11:39 AM
This is what it looks like at this point....and it's not getting any smaller.
I have seen worst, but I would like to have a vet look at it and see what his thoughts were about it. And you were saying it was a 3 finger hernia, I would like a vet check her out if she were mine just to be on the safe side.  |
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Georgia Peach
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Location: Georgia | Southtxponygirl - 2014-06-20 2:14 PM Runninbay - 2014-06-20 11:39 AM
This is what it looks like at this point....and it's not getting any smaller.
Thank you! I will get in touch with a vet soon and see what they think needs to be done and if we should go ahead and do it. I'm wiaiting for some different vet offices to call me back with quotes. Hopefully ill be able to find another good vet that will do it for cheaper.
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Location: Oklahoma | that is a big one! IMO will not close up on its own!!
I had one done last year and it was less than $200 ... with all the meds, etc etc Id say around $300? Can't even tell now :) |
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Georgia Peach
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Location: Georgia | Runnin < C > - 2014-06-20 2:42 PM that is a big one! IMO will not close up on its own!!
I had one done last year and it was less than $200 ... with all the meds, etc etc Id say around $300? Can't even tell now :)
Yeah I dont think its going to close up on its own either. Thanks Chels! From what I've seen on this thread and my other online finding, $800 is way over-priced and I'll most likely be taking my business to another vet. |
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A Somebody to Everybody
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | I agree that is a biggy, the one my filly had I could stick my pinky up there, but as she grew it closed on its own, but this one on your colt is way bigger and not going to close on its own, going to need help on the closing. Keep us updated on what the vet tells you, but to me they need to see it in person. 
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| I have had it done ... make sure the vet knows what their doing !!! It is NOT as simple as some may think. They need several layers of stitches, the colt needs to be put out and monitored and layed on its back during surgery.
Mine was successful and healed with no complications. The vet came to my farm and brought 2 assistants to help.
Good luck !
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Canine Carryout Queen
Location: Oklahoma | Runninbay - 2014-06-20 1:48 PM Runnin < C > - 2014-06-20 2:42 PM that is a big one! IMO will not close up on its own!!
I had one done last year and it was less than $200 ... with all the meds, etc etc Id say around $300? Can't even tell now :)
Yeah I dont think its going to close up on its own either. Thanks Chels! From what I've seen on this thread and my other online finding, $800 is way over-priced and I'll most likely be taking my business to another vet.
Yep as long as the vet knows what theyre doing its really not a big deal at all! I think mine stayed over night at the clinic. She recommends doing them while still on mama! then was in a confined area for a week?? something like that.
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Location: SW MO | Our vet charges $150. Most 1 -2 fingers will close up but if they are bigger than that they usually have to be fixed. |
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Location: Where the pavement ends and the West begins Utah | It needs repaired. That is the guts falling through the hole and can lead to colic/ death. Find another vet in another town. I paid $150. on a two year old. |
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Canine Carryout Queen
Location: Oklahoma | cow pie - 2014-06-20 3:34 PM It needs repaired. That is the guts falling through the hole and can lead to colic/ death. Find another vet in another town. I paid $150. on a two year old.
Exactly! Mine actually did get part of the gut down in there (was only a 2 finger hole) and she was VERY colicy ... freaked me out! Pushed it back up in there and she was fine ... but scared me to death. We scheduled the surgery the next day! Lol. |
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| Dr. Strickland (sp) in Wewoka Oklahoma did my colt's repair for $75.00 looks to be about the same size as your foal's. Did not use a mesh and it healed nicely. I would see about getting done sooner than later. |
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Location: Finally horseback again.... | Ive seen alot of hernias and assisted in lots of the surgeries.
There are several ways to fix them but it all depends on how large it is and if the umbilical stump is still protruding through.
If it is small I have seen them use clamps, pull the skin together and they take a piece of wooden dowel rod split it half, sandwich the hernia between and use clamps much like hose clamps to tighten it down. The tissue will basically rot and fall off after it closes. This wont work if there is any of the umbilical cord left through the hole. ( it sounded insane the first time I saw it but really worked well)
For the bigger ones, its a pretty simple surgery. Sedate, roll them over, intestines fall back into the body cavity, stitch the muscle back together, then the skin. Healing time is pretty short on foals.
Can be done under the same type of sedation as a castration.
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | Canchasr1 - 2014-06-24 1:44 PM Ive seen alot of hernias and assisted in lots of the surgeries.
There are several ways to fix them but it all depends on how large it is and if the umbilical stump is still protruding through.
If it is small I have seen them use clamps, pull the skin together and they take a piece of wooden dowel rod split it half, sandwich the hernia between and use clamps much like hose clamps to tighten it down. The tissue will basically rot and fall off after it closes. This wont work if there is any of the umbilical cord left through the hole. ( it sounded insane the first time I saw it but really worked well)
For the bigger ones, its a pretty simple surgery. Sedate, roll them over, intestines fall back into the body cavity, stitch the muscle back together, then the skin. Healing time is pretty short on foals.
Can be done under the same type of sedation as a castration.
ok so their explanation for the clamps was much better... I knew there was wood involved though lol.
We had one that everyone, vets included, said leave alone and it might heal on his own. As a yearling, he crawled into the feed bunk, bumped that hernia and dropped some gut down into it. He was very colicky within minutes so we rushed him to the vet and they did a surgery. Vet was 30 minutes away and by the time they had him down and opened up, the bowel was beginning to die already. Very purplish. I watched the surgery, very interesting. Here in WY I think it cost about $250-$300.
Then the one they clamped was done at weaning just to be done with it. I didn't see that one, but my husband said it was very simple. Very cheap too. |
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Georgia Peach
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UPDATE!
Took her to the vet a few weeks ago and she suggested we try wrapping up the hernia before considering surgery. We changed the wrap yesterday (2nd time) and what a difference! I'm pretty excited that it seems to be working. I'm really hoping it continues to improve and the surgery wont be needed. A picture to compare...
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Swiffer PIcker Upper
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Location: Four Corners Colorado | We can't see your pic! how did you wrap it? |
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Georgia Peach
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Location: Georgia | equussynergy - 2014-07-09 1:47 PM We can't see your pic! how did you wrap it?
I think I fixed the picture!
We just did a full belly wrap. It goes over her back and under her belly to compress the hernia, As you can see from the picture, the only problem is that it rubs her flanks. But it'll be worth that if it works. |
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Swiffer PIcker Upper
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Location: Four Corners Colorado | Wow! That looks great! |
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A Somebody to Everybody
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Looks really good, is the hole closing? |
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Umbilical Hernia Repair in Foals *UPDATE*