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Location: North Dakota | Very happy with the two runs I made this weekend, although my shins aren't. 
Red ran in his second-ever amateur rodeo slack, although this was run after the performance at 10:45 PM .... after the huge booming fireworks display .... in the dark. He handled it all like an old pro, even though he'd never done any of that before. Was very proud of him. I didn't get that run on video. He stumbled coming into the 1st barrel and still worked hard for me to get around it. We just barely caught the 2nd barrel as we were leaving it, and he had a good 3rd barrel. We clocked a 16.9 something (without the 5 sec penalty, of course). I'm not for sure, but I believe a 15.3 something won it. So if he hadn't stumbled, I'm sure we would have been around a 16.5 or so. For how "soft" we tipped over that 2nd barrel, my left shin was missing a little skin. Ouch.
With very little sleep  we went to a family rodeo the next day. He has been to this arena once before and it could tell he knew where we were. Actually got pumped up before his barrel run! Unfortunately, we caught the 1st barrel as we were leaving it. (Now my right shin is bruised to match my left shin). But overall, I was very happy with his run. We clocked a 17.564 (without the tipped barrel) and in my age division it was a 16.4 that won it. I'm not sure if that was the fastest time of the entire day as I didn't hear all of them.
Here's the video to that run:
http://youtu.be/TobtxiMrS1Q
I know he still has more speed to give. We are still getting there. I feel like the 2nd barrel was wider on the backside that I wanted, but then again my left shin was well out of harm's way.
What do you see that I can do differently as a rider? (Besides lift my leg out of the darn way  ) One thing I always tell myself before I run but I just can't seem to get myself to do, is to "lift" my hand up instead of pulling back toward my knee. Can't seem to get my darn muscle memory to change.
This weekend was his 4th and 5th run since getting his hocks injected (hocks are fusing).
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Location: Sperry, OK | He almost looks short strided in the front to me.. have you had any soundness issues in the front? |
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Location: North Dakota | Honeymoney - 2014-07-07 9:54 AM Good to see you have a helmet on. The horse is trying to work for you. I think the main thing that will help improve your time is to get the horse is shape so he feels like running. He is a bit on the plump side. If memory serves me correct I think you tell the OP on every post she has of this horse that you think the horse is unfit. I've seen her horse in person and he IS NOT fat, nor is he on the "plump" side. He is fit. What you probably don't realize, since you've never seen him in person, is it's his breeding that contributes to his size. I own a brother to this horse and they are BIG horses :)
Where I think your losing your time Brittany is on the turn; he is cutting you off and not get up far enough into the turn to get his body around it. I believe its why you tipped the first and why he kicks his back lead on the second and sort of drifts off the turn in the back end. When they are up far enough into the turn and get their hip by they will automatically snap around and shoot off the barrel like a rocket. Make it easy for him and he'll show you the difference on the clock. JMO
ETA: I watched the video again and Aceinthehole may be right. He has a lot more knee action that what I've seen in the past and does look a little short strided in the front.
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| I agree he looks sore on the front end. I know you have treated for hocks.
If you look at first barrel, it looks like you didn't check him, he didn't shorten his stride till the back side and he dumped on his front end, you need to get him to drive with the hind and not slow down using the front.
On second it didn't look like you checked him, as he didn't really shape up, it is hard to tell as the video is far away. He also left the second on the wrong lead, this will cost you time.
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Location: North Dakota | HoneyMoney: This is not the first time you've called my horse FAT and trust me, he is not. I can't help that he's a big chunky quarter horse.
Venus Williams is never going to look like a slender supermodel. She's got "substance" to her. In that same mindset, my horse is never going to look like a Thoroughbred. Give it a rest.
AceintheHole: Hey, good eye!  I have recently put him back into a 2 degree wedge pad (about 2 to 3 weeks ago). We discovered a slight "off" to his front end last year that the wedges helped. I tried a regular shoe this year to see if it would do the trick, but it did not. He still feels slightly off to me, but it is better this week than it was last week, which was better than the week before. I'm really watching him closely, but he does seem to be improving now that I've got him back in the wedges again.
Vet's theory is that he is slightly pigeon-toed and his joint spaces are slightly crooked in his pasterns, which is putting slight uneven pressure to cause the soreness. Left is slightly worse than right. X-rays have not changed after a year's time (we redid them this year) so it doesn't appear to be progressing, which is good.
WYO: So in this video, I need to take him one more stride into the 1st barrel before starting to turn? When I ran him in Strasburg, I made the mistake of making too big of a pocket. He really doesn't need much room to turn. So this weekend I was trying to make sure I ran him in somewhat close to the barrel. Still kind of trying to figure out exactly where I need to place him so he can turn his best.
How did you think his 3rd barrel looked?
Cheryl: I'm trying to find a balance on how much I need to check him and when. I can certainly see that I could ask him for a little shape before we turn.
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | He still looks really sore, hes short strided, and watch how he keeps switching leads going into the 3rd barrel. Hes either sore are confused about leads. And you need to check him more going into the barrels. |
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Location: North Dakota | Southtxponygirl - 2014-07-07 10:42 AM watch how he keeps switching leads going into the 3rd barrel. Hes either sore are confused about leads. I did see that on the video, on the way to the 3rd, but I am really not overly concerned about that.
I do LOTS of other events with him besides barrels, as well as gaming events. He's kinda "ready" to jump on either side of the barrel for me because he doesn't always know which way we are going to go, depending on which gaming event we are doing.
Also, I have been working with him a ton on flying lead changes (I also compete in reining on him) and the last couple days he's been REALLY good about them. (as in: I barely touch his side and he's switching something with his feet down there!) Very possible he could have been confused about my legs there, going to the 3rd barrel.
So I"m thinking it was more a confusion factor on the way to the 3rd barrel.
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | r_beau - 2014-07-07 10:46 AM Southtxponygirl - 2014-07-07 10:42 AM watch how he keeps switching leads going into the 3rd barrel. Hes either sore are confused about leads. I did see that on the video, on the way to the 3rd, but I am really not overly concerned about that.
I do LOTS of other events with him besides barrels, as well as gaming events. He's kinda "ready" to jump on either side of the barrel for me because he doesn't always know which way we are going to go, depending on which gaming event we are doing.
Also, I have been working with him a ton on flying lead changes (I also compete in reining on him) and the last couple days he's been REALLY good about them. (as in: I barely touch his side and he's switching something with his feet down there!) Very possible he could have been confused about my legs there, going to the 3rd barrel.
So I"m thinking it was more a confusion factor on the way to the 3rd barrel.
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| Three 4 Luck - 2014-07-07 10:53 AM
I see front end soreness as well.
I see the front soreness on the way home, he looks very ouchy and not wanting to stride out and his feet are not landing on the ground properly.
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Location: Midwest | I don't have a lot of experience with front end soreness but it does look like he is sore, almost like he's bracing his head and neck in the same position while he's running because of the soreness?
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Location: North Dakota | cheryl makofka - 2014-07-07 10:59 AM If I recall this horse has also had front end problems.
Yes, and I explain that above.
I appreciate the concern with the soreness guys, I really do, but it is being addressed. He's back in the wedges and if that doesn't work with time, then I'll take the next step. But they need the opportunity to work. He is a short-strided horse. He's not a big leggy guy. I do realize there is some soreness there, but part of it is the way he personally travels.
I'm really not looking for tips on soreness, but looking for tips on what I can do differently with my riding to best guide him through the pattern, as some folks have already given. Thank you.
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | r_beau - 2014-07-07 11:19 AM cheryl makofka - 2014-07-07 10:59 AM If I recall this horse has also had front end problems. Yes, and I explain that above.
I appreciate the concern with the soreness guys, I really do, but it is being addressed. He's back in the wedges and if that doesn't work with time, then I'll take the next step. But they need the opportunity to work. He is a short-strided horse. He's not a big leggy guy. I do realize there is some soreness there, but part of it is the way he personally travels.
I'm really not looking for tips on soreness, but looking for tips on what I can do differently with my riding to best guide him through the pattern, as some folks have already given. Thank you.
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Location: Midwest | Three 4 Luck - 2014-07-07 11:42 AM r_beau - 2014-07-07 11:19 AM cheryl makofka - 2014-07-07 10:59 AM If I recall this horse has also had front end problems. Yes, and I explain that above.
I appreciate the concern with the soreness guys, I really do, but it is being addressed. He's back in the wedges and if that doesn't work with time, then I'll take the next step. But they need the opportunity to work. He is a short-strided horse. He's not a big leggy guy. I do realize there is some soreness there, but part of it is the way he personally travels.
I'm really not looking for tips on soreness, but looking for tips on what I can do differently with my riding to best guide him through the pattern, as some folks have already given. Thank you.
That pony can get it! those little legs are flying! Too cute :) |
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| There is nothing that your riding can do to make a horse work through pain... Too me he looks like a horse running as best as he can with obvious soreness. If it were my horse (and I've been there) I would not be competing with him until he is feeling better. JMO.  |
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| r_beau - 2014-07-07 11:19 AM
cheryl makofka - 2014-07-07 10:59 AM If I recall this horse has also had front end problems.
Yes, and I explain that above.
I appreciate the concern with the soreness guys, I really do, but it is being addressed. He's back in the wedges and if that doesn't work with time, then I'll take the next step. But they need the opportunity to work. He is a short-strided horse. He's not a big leggy guy. I do realize there is some soreness there, but part of it is the way he personally travels.
I'm really not looking for tips on soreness, but looking for tips on what I can do differently with my riding to best guide him through the pattern, as some folks have already given. Thank you.
Sorry I just read the above comment.
Also wondering what do his feet look like, my guess is he may have contracted heels, and this could be causing him pain.
Can you post pictures of his front feet a side, front, hind and sole view.
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Location: North Dakota | cheryl makofka - 2014-07-07 12:00 PM r_beau - 2014-07-07 11:19 AM cheryl makofka - 2014-07-07 10:59 AM If I recall this horse has also had front end problems. Yes, and I explain that above.
I appreciate the concern with the soreness guys, I really do, but it is being addressed. He's back in the wedges and if that doesn't work with time, then I'll take the next step. But they need the opportunity to work. He is a short-strided horse. He's not a big leggy guy. I do realize there is some soreness there, but part of it is the way he personally travels.
I'm really not looking for tips on soreness, but looking for tips on what I can do differently with my riding to best guide him through the pattern, as some folks have already given. Thank you.
Sorry I just read the above comment. Also wondering what do his feet look like, my guess is he may have contracted heels, and this could be causing him pain. Can you post pictures of his front feet a side, front, hind and sole view. I could be wrong
Might be a day or two, but I can get some pictures.
Granted, I am not a farrier, but I do not believe he has contracted heels or anything of the sort. I use one of the BEST farriers in the area, as those who know me on BHW can vouch for.
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Location: North Dakota | MNcanchaser7 - 2014-07-07 11:51 AM There is nothing that your riding can do to make a horse work through pain... Too me he looks like a horse running as best as he can with obvious soreness. If it were my horse (and I've been there ) I would not be competing with him until he is feeling better. JMO.
Well some of the responses on BHW can be a cr@pshoot sometimes, as I just did recently make a very specific post regarding lameness, wondering about how he looks after his hock injections. While I did not get much feedback, no one said a word about his front end. I can only take things one run at a time.
http://forums.barrelhorseworld.com/forum/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=451255&posts=5&mid=7014891&highlight=&highlightmode=1&action=search#M7014891
Soooooo since this has once again turned into a lameness thread, have at it:
http://youtu.be/ErljxPts_3k
http://youtu.be/M3IDUE9v5gc
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Fixing soundness problems is like peeling onions. It's very common to fix one part, only to discover an issue somewhere else that didn't show up until the part that hurt worse was feeling better. Horses are awesome at compensating, but it makes it really hard on their humans. |
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Location: North Dakota | Three 4 Luck - 2014-07-07 12:55 PM Fixing soundness problems is like peeling onions. It's very common to fix one part, only to discover an issue somewhere else that didn't show up until the part that hurt worse was feeling better. Horses are awesome at compensating, but it makes it really hard on their humans.
Ugggggg, tell me about it. I fix one thing and then something else pops up. 
If he wasn't such a pleasant horse to be around, and such a versatile athlete (I can place in Western Pleasure locally, for crying out loud), I would have gotten rid of him a long time ago. But he's such a good horse that if I can just fix his body .......
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I watched the videos, and the front end lameness is not as obvious, this can be a few reasons, camera angle, soreness in different areas ie hocks, the more runs a horse has the more inflammation occurs therefore increased pain, and harder ground can show more lameness.
Also you said that you had just modified his feet, this could cause the pain, you also said you modified his feet due to pain, the pain may need to be addressed by antiinflammatories, injections, etc
In the video the second one, the only hint of front end soreness was his feet are not landing properly.
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| r_beau - 2014-07-07 9:37 AM
I have recently put him back into a 2 degree wedge pad (about 2 to 3 weeks ago). We discovered a slight "off" to his front end last year that the wedges helped. I tried a regular shoe this year to see if it would do the trick, but it did not. He still feels slightly off to me, but it is better this week than it was last week, which was better than the week before. I'm really watching him closely, but he does seem to be improving now that I've got him back in the wedges again.
Vet's theory is that he is slightly pigeon-toed and his joint spaces are slightly crooked in his pasterns, which is putting slight uneven pressure to cause the soreness. Left is slightly worse than right. X-rays have not changed after a year's time (we redid them this year) so it doesn't appear to be progressing, which is good.
I am assuming you put wedges on for coffin bone dropping? In the rads did you see any changes in the pastern joint - osteophytes, enthesiophytes? That may be the front end issue, but it gets missed sometimes because we get carried away looking at P3. You mentioned that "nothing has changed since last year" can't tell if you are referring to the joint space or not. Even if nothing has changed since last year, if he is still sore, and there is calcification, that may be the issue.
ETA just saw your next post that you are not looking for comments on the front end issues, sorry, but in my experience if the issue is in the pastern the wedges won't make a difference if there is already bony change. I will leave this up in case anyone else is interested tho. Good luck with him
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Location: North Dakota | No biggie. It's a lameness thread now so have at it. 
Coffin bone has not dropped.
Last year when I brought him specifically for the front end lameness problem, we only had to nerve block once to "cure" him so we know it is heel pain. We did the wedges to relieve the heel pain. His left front was worse than his right front. My farrier also slightly displaces his left front shoe to the outside to help him land/load more evenly. Up until last year, he had always been barefoot. When we determined he had heel pain, I put on front shoes with a 2 degree wedge pad. (No hind shoes initially but added them later for traction.) We put the shoes on, I gave him a week off per the vet's orders with bute every day, and then went back to riding him. Fixed it 100%. This year I tried just doing regular shoes all the way around with no wedge pad. Figured I didn't know if regular shoes would work until we tried it. He went back to being "off" with regular shoes so I put the wedges back on about 3 weeks ago. He had 1 1/2 weeks of rest before they got put on, so I guess I wasn't entirely convinced they were doing the job they were supposed to do when I didn't feel that same immediate improvement that I did last year.
These are the x-rays from last year from his left front foot. I can get a copy of the most recent ones, but we did put them up side by side and they were identical. With these x-rays from last year, he was at about 7 or 8 weeks after a trim which is a long for him. I usually NEVER let him get past 6 weeks at the very longest (try to keep a schedule of every 5 weeks as best I can) but that's just how my schedule worked out at the time.
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Location: Kansas | Three 4 Luck - 2014-07-07 12:55 PM Fixing soundness problems is like peeling onions. It's very common to fix one part, only to discover an issue somewhere else that didn't show up until the part that hurt worse was feeling better. Horses are awesome at compensating, but it makes it really hard on their humans.
Ain't that the truth!!!!!
OP - in the second video you posted here, the thing I see is that he doesn't leave the 2nd & 3rd barrels completely on the left lead. He drops that lead with his hind legs and doesn't drive his left hind leg up under him to power through the turn. My gray has done that in the past and we got him adjusted, then injected his sacroiliac joints, then did the lameness locator and found that his feet were sore, so we injected coffin joints on 3 of the 4 feet and I'm keeping him shod with equipack in the front feet. He's been holding his leads and moving correctly the last couple months so I'm cautiously thinking we got everything addressed finally. I've also been having his shoes reset earlier....we are going 4 1/2 or 5 weeks instead of 6-7 weeks and that seems to be keeping things set up better. The big thing to me that indicates he's feeling good is that if I am leading him and push him to turn 90 or 180 degrees in a tight pivot, he's not limping or giving on those front feet. That hasn't always been the case.
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I am not an X-ray guru but is there a pastern fracture, I see abnormalities on both X-rays in the same spot. |
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Location: North Dakota | Personally...if it were me I would get a second opinion on those xrays. I seen an anomoly too. |
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Location: North Dakota | Here's the x-rays from June of the left front. He was in a regular rim shoe at the time. I added the 2 degree wedge pad after that.
I'll get pictures of his feet tonight. Maybe even a video of how he moves (might be difficult since I am by myself).
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Location: stray dump capital of the world | cheryl makofka - 2014-07-07 7:17 PM I am not an X-ray guru but is there a pastern fracture, I see abnormalities on both X-rays in the same spot.
To the OP, you came on asking on how to improve your runs. I think the advice you are getting is in earnest and helpful. While you may not like the thread changing to a lameness thread, if that is what they see (I can't get your video to load) then it gives you somewhere to start.
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Location: North Dakota | sophiebelle - 2014-07-08 2:51 PM cheryl makofka - 2014-07-07 7:17 PM I am not an X-ray guru but is there a pastern fracture, I see abnormalities on both X-rays in the same spot.
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Location: Sperry, OK | I think I see some ever so slight rotation of the conffin bone. Could just be angles being off, or could be nothing to worry about.. but it looks like it to me. |
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Location: Finally horseback again.... | Let me see if this works.
I am by no means a radiologist but Ive looked at a lot of x rays.
The areas I pointed to, raise questions.
The joint appears to have some calcification that makes the appear not smooth.
The other areas are what I believe may be the areas of concern the previous poster saw.
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| Canchasr1 - 2014-07-08 4:16 PM
Let me see if this works.
I am by no means a radiologist but Ive looked at a lot of x rays.
The areas I pointed to, raise questions.
The joint appears to have some calcification that makes the appear not smooth.
The other areas are what I believe may be the areas of concern the previous poster saw.
The seen the ones on the pastern but not on the coffin joint, thanks for placing the arrows, I haven't even figured out how to upload pictures or videos lol |
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Location: Finally horseback again.... | cheryl makofka - 2014-07-08 4:40 PM Canchasr1 - 2014-07-08 4:16 PM Let me see if this works.
I am by no means a radiologist but Ive looked at a lot of x rays.
The areas I pointed to, raise questions.
The joint appears to have some calcification that makes the appear not smooth.
The other areas are what I believe may be the areas of concern the previous poster saw. The seen the ones on the pastern but not on the coffin joint, thanks for placing the arrows, I haven't even figured out how to upload pictures or videos lol
You are welcome.
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| Canchasr1 - 2014-07-08 4:45 PM
cheryl makofka - 2014-07-08 4:40 PM Canchasr1 - 2014-07-08 4:16 PM Let me see if this works.
I am by no means a radiologist but Ive looked at a lot of x rays.
The areas I pointed to, raise questions.
The joint appears to have some calcification that makes the appear not smooth.
The other areas are what I believe may be the areas of concern the previous poster saw. The seen the ones on the pastern but not on the coffin joint, thanks for placing the arrows, I haven't even figured out how to upload pictures or videos lol
Did I get them in the right spots?
I also seen something on the side view in the same area, but yes you did
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Location: Feeding mosquitos, FL | Don't mind me. Just replying so I'll get an email when a new post pops up. Very curious to see feet photos. |
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Location: Texas | He looks very sore on his front end. It was more noticeable to me in your pole bending video from the same day. |
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Location: North Dakota | So if that IS indeed a fracture .... is it normal to have it look the same over a year later? It is still there in the new X-rays that we did. Is there anythiing else is could be?
And he has always been sore on BOTH front feet. We've never done x-rays on the right front foot, because the left is always the worse one. Could he has a fracture in the right? What could be causing lameness in BOTH front feet?
Let me give you a timeline. I purchased him in May of 2012. He was a very fat 6-year-old who essentially was green broke. Hadn't been ridden a whole lot or consistently. I rode him just about every day that summer. Being in North Dakota, he had the winter off. In January of 2013, he cut up the front side of his left hock. Was on stall rest for over a month. Thankfully, healed up fine. Went to a reining trainer in May of 2013 where he got worked pretty hard. When I brought him home is when I first noticed him being "off" in his front end. Wasn't really sure if it was there until my mom said something. So I took him to the vet in July 2013 and that's when we did the x-rays and found the heel pain in both front feet, worse in the left. I put him in shoes for the first time (he had been barefoot his entire life) with the wedge pad. Gave him a week off and bute. Started riding him and he felt 100%. Then in Sept 2013 he started crossfiring in his barrel turns. Took him back to the vet and we could literally feel his right stifle catching. It didn't lock completely, but it would catch every couple steps when he walked. I tried to ride him over the winter to attempt to keep him legged up, but it was a horrible icy winter. Started riding again in March and we injected the right stifle towards the end of the month. Noticed it helped a little but not completely. Brought him back in June and found the fusing hocks. Injected those and it has been a HUGE improvement for the better.
Whew.
Okay, I took some pictures tonight. I'm also working on uploading some video. Again, I had put regular rim shoes on him this year until 3 weeks ago when we added the 2 degree wedge pad.
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Location: North Dakota | Here's one video:
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 Own It and Move On
Location: The edge of no where | He seems like he really wants to work and get along..... I can't tell you where, but he looks awfully short/sore in front to me. I know you've been working closely with your vet, but I think it's time for a fresh set of eyes on him. He needs to go to an Equine sports medicine facility and get some answers. Be prepared to find out that maybe he needs to do less strenuous activities....maybe western pleasure, showing, barrel racing might be more than his front feet can take. |
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Born not Made
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Location: North Dakota | Update: Red has a vet appointment in 1 week, with a new vet for fresh eyes. It's over 5 hours one-way for us. That is the farthest I personally have ever hauled a horse, for anything. I hope I get some answers.
And as far as the x-rays go, there have been a second set of eyes who have looked at them. It may not be a fracture. It might just be a disturbance in the growth plate. I'll need to get x-rays of his right leg because if that is the case, it will be the same in both legs.
The issue does not appear to be navicular.
Someone pointed an arrow at one of the joint spaces and that appears to be a lateral cartilage bone spur that will eventually turn into a side bone.
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Fire Ant Peddler
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I Am Always Right
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Location: stray dump capital of the world | It may not be a fracture. It might just be a disturbance in the growth plate.
I'm going to step out on a stupid branch here...Somebody please explain what it means to have a disturbance in the growth plate...
Hope you find some answers for your pony. It's a frustrating position to be in.
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Born not Made
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Location: North Dakota | sophiebelle - 2014-07-09 4:36 PM It may not be a fracture. It might just be a disturbance in the growth plate.
I'm going to step out on a stupid branch here...Somebody please explain what it means to have a disturbance in the growth plate...
Hope you find some answers for your pony. It's a frustrating position to be in.
I don't know quite what that means either. :-)
But I know that I need more x-rays from different angles (and the other foot) and different exposure power to figure out what exactly that line is.
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 Warmblood with Wings
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Location: Florida.. | good luck.. id listen to the vets ..with xrays and stuff.. |
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