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Location: ohio-in my own little world with pretty ponies :) | Those lines are very popular around here. I have a great-grandson of him and boy do I LOVE him....the only thing is he has navicular but I don't think that has anything to do with him. My guy is a sweet heart and is beautiful! Before he was diagnosed with navilular he was a pretty sweet barrel horse but never truly got "finished" before we had to retire him. I reaaallly like special effort. I'm gonna try and put him pedigree up but idk if it will work.
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Location: North Dakota | I have a grand-daughter that I love to pieces. She has so much grit. She is 110% try every time I run her. She has her own style but it is quick, quick, quick! She is a tricking one to stick with coming out of her turns! She can just fly! Her pattern does not need to be perfect....just send her hard and we will clock. Her personality and attitude though is really what wins me over every single day. She is just one of those horses that makes a person smile everytime they are around her. |
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | I have had 2 daughters of Hot Colours by SE. They were a little different type of mare. The one was pretty people friendly, the other not so much. SE was one of the few sires that was able to produce Champion and Champion producing sons AND daughters. These horses then went on to produce Champions (on the track). They have made pretty nice arena horses too.
I have these mares now that go to him and so far love them.
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | lexyy12 - 2014-07-11 6:40 AM Those lines are very popular around here. I have a great-grandson of him and boy do I LOVE him....the only thing is he has navicular but I don't think that has anything to do with him. My guy is a sweet heart and is beautiful! Before he was diagnosed with navilular he was a pretty sweet barrel horse but never truly got "finished" before we had to retire him. I reaaallly like special effort. I'm gonna try and put him pedigree up but idk if it will work. http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/luck+pacific
I have had a lot of people that knew the connections of SE say he had poor feet. I can't tell by the pictures myself. I know both my HC daughters were foundered before I bought them. Both had it covered up, one we bought with shoes on at the Heritage. The unfriendly one we owned about 6yrs or so, she had friendly babies by our stallion and they were sure nice looking. She went from being tender footed on and off in the spring to having a really bad couple episodes one summer complete with several abcsesses. I sold her to a better home. Vet thought she was insulin resistant and it showed up when she was in her mid teens.
Then last summer our other one started to have more trouble and abcsess so we also sold her to a better home. Our vet thinks the drought and high sugars in the grass was the reason for it finally finishing them off. It was strange though with 20 some other horses here, that only the HC had any issues. |
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Location: North Dakota | wyoming barrel racer - 2014-07-11 8:32 AM lexyy12 - 2014-07-11 6:40 AM Those lines are very popular around here. I have a great-grandson of him and boy do I LOVE him....the only thing is he has navicular but I don't think that has anything to do with him. My guy is a sweet heart and is beautiful! Before he was diagnosed with navilular he was a pretty sweet barrel horse but never truly got "finished" before we had to retire him. I reaaallly like special effort. I'm gonna try and put him pedigree up but idk if it will work. http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/luck+pacific
Then last summer our other one started to have more trouble and abcsess so we also sold her to a better home. Our vet thinks the drought and high sugars in the grass was the reason for it finally finishing them off. It was strange though with 20 some other horses here, that only the HC had any issues.
Interesting. My SE mare doesn't have the best feet either. Not horrible but she is very tender without shoes but she was OTT so I don't think she has not had shoes since she was 2yrs old (now 8). But they do not hold a great shape. Not long into her trimmings they get dished looking. She is on excellent feed so it shouldn't be her nutrition. I hope we don't run into much more problems down the road. |
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Location: Kansas | wyoming barrel racer - 2014-07-11 8:24 AM I have had 2 daughters of Hot Colours by SE. They were a little different type of mare. The one was pretty people friendly, the other not so much. SE was one of the few sires that was able to produce Champion and Champion producing sons AND daughters. These horses then went on to produce Champions (on the track). They have made pretty nice arena horses too.
I have these mares now that go to him and so far love them.
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | hoofs_in_motion - 2014-07-11 7:39 AM wyoming barrel racer - 2014-07-11 8:24 AM I have had 2 daughters of Hot Colours by SE. They were a little different type of mare. The one was pretty people friendly, the other not so much. SE was one of the few sires that was able to produce Champion and Champion producing sons AND daughters. These horses then went on to produce Champions (on the track). They have made pretty nice arena horses too.
I have these mares now that go to him and so far love them.
Easter Speedster
Special Lil Ivory
Thank you, the bottom mare is only a 3yr old. The top I think is an '05 |
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Location: Spokompton, Wa | Very interesting about the feet on SE's! I have a great grandson and he is a HUGE tenderfoot. He'll gimp if he hits a dirt clod wrong. But he's just 3 and I love him! He's a little on the different side though. He is very wary of strangers. He's super smart. Sent him off for 60 days this spring for the basics and have had him back for a couple months now and we are already starting to lope the pattern. I can't wait to see how he ends up.
ETA ~ <---- That is him last fall as a late 2 y/o.
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Location: Texas | I have a horse by figure me special who is by special effort. He is amazing to be around and my sweetheart. On the mares side he is streakin six and first down dash. I am not really sure who he gets his athletic ability from but his is a big boy at 16.1 and is upper athletic. He is not hot at all and almost a little lazy when he run and is super rately. He has a half brother thanks doing awesome up north somewhere. He is pretty much a 1d/2d horse in tough central Tx. I would take another one of him in a heartbeat. He also is tenderfooted and does not have the best feet but they are not horrid either. |
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Location: North Dakota | My mare and I winning the 4th of July rodeo in Fort Ransom, ND. Miss Special Shadow.
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Location: At the race track with Ah Dee Ohs | I have a yearling granddaughter that is an in your pocket, first to meet you in pasture. She's a quick learner and wants to please.
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| I had an own son. Loved him but I sold him mostly because my husband didnt like him. If he got stirred up it took a minute to get him calmed back down. He did have the feet problem but not bad as long as he had shoes. He got a really bad stone bruise one time and it took a long time to heal and I didnt know thats what it was for a long time. He was super fast and for a lanky as he was, could bend around a barrel. I told my husband he was like a bendy straw. I really wish I wouldnt have sold him because I know wherever hes at, he has to be winning.
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Location: North Dakota | horsiace1025 - 2014-07-11 10:26 AM I had an own son. Loved him but I sold him mostly because my husband didnt like him. If he got stirred up it took a minute to get him calmed back down. He did have the feet problem but not bad as long as he had shoes. He got a really bad stone bruise one time and it took a long time to heal and I didnt know thats what it was for a long time. He was super fast and for a lanky as he was, could bend around a barrel. I told my husband he was like a bendy straw. I really wish I wouldnt have sold him because I know wherever hes at, he has to be winning.
This is my mare! Especially on her first barrel. She likes no pocket...goes in super tight (takes my breath away every time because I feel there is no way we won't tip), then she bends in half and is all of a sudden going the other direction. I am trying to change that style a bit though because I feel it can be a little smoother which I think would be easier on her. When I watch Sarah McDonald and Bling run it kind of reminds me of how my mare runs. It definitely is working for them! I just want to smooth my mare out a bit which I think some of the roughness comes from soreness which I hope is relieved after her SI injections she got on Wednesday. |
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Location: ohio-in my own little world with pretty ponies :) | wyoming barrel racer - 2014-07-11 9:32 AM
lexyy12 - 2014-07-11 6:40 AM Those lines are very popular around here. I have a great-grandson of him and boy do I LOVE him....the only thing is he has navicular but I don't think that has anything to do with him. My guy is a sweet heart and is beautiful! Before he was diagnosed with navilular he was a pretty sweet barrel horse but never truly got "finished" before we had to retire him. I reaaallly like special effort. I'm gonna try and put him pedigree up but idk if it will work. http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/luck+pacific
Then last summer our other one started to have more trouble and abcsess so we also sold her to a better home. Our vet thinks the drought and high sugars in the grass was the reason for it finally finishing them off. It was strange though with 20 some other horses here, that only the HC had any issues.
Hmm maybe that does come from him? My guy is built like a tank and FAST! He gave his all every time even when he wasn't feeling his best. He was tough to hang with coming out of a turn too!!! I get on him every now and then and take him for a ride bc I miss how smoothe he is! If I could have kept him sound I feel as though he would he hard to beat. A friend of mine owned his half brother and they looked like twins and worked and ran the same except he had knee issues. He ran at the track though. |
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Location: Oklahoma | We have three maternal grand daughters of Special Effort and three Pateral grand daughters of Special Effort (all 3 by Bully Bullion)
LOVE them all! Havent rode an own son/daughter but the grand gets -top and bottom have all been great horses!
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| I've had 2 grand kids - a Proudest Effort gelding & a Special Task mare. Both super talented, great attitudes, and would give 100% to win for me - and both of them struggled with constant sore feet. After all the heartbreak I don't think I would ever buy a SE again, no matter the talent... |
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Location: Mississippi | I had a grandson of him. He was a wonderful horse! We were placing in the 1-d when I lost him to a freak accident. I also had his half brother who was going very nicely on the barrels when he injured his rear leg. I love Special Effort horses, they are very athletic, the ones I have ridden have all been pleasers!
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Location: north dakota | I have 3 grand get by the same stud all out of different mares. One is a yearling, one is a 2 year old and one 3 year old. So far no feet problems. They all appear to be good looking and athletic.
I rode a SE son and a Bully Bullion son awhile ago that someone else owned. They were really nice and level headed. Smooth movers. The owner did a great job training them. I didn't do anything more than play around with them in an arena but I was really impressed with both horses.
I have a Special Leader daughter used as a broodmare. She is great to deal with on the ground and in the stocks. Her foal got injured this year and she practically feel asleep in the stocks while we were suturing her foal. As far as I know she was never more than track broke but you can pick up her feet in the middle of the pasture without a halter if you want to
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| I have a son of Special Leader we raced him and did some arena work after. He is the kindest quietest guy to be around. He is a tremendous athlete and his colts seem to have outstanding minds and athletic ability to go along. I just put a video on my facebook page of a colt by him out of a daughter of Special Show getting clipped for the first time. If you have facebook you can go see him. He was laying down and only moved because another baby wanted to get in the way. Look me up Sommer Strain . I love he babies so much I may never get rid of any of them. |
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Location: Four Corners Colorado | I have a Special Effort grand daugter I would scoop up another in a heart beat. She is tougher than nails and I am very happy with her foals. |
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| wyoming barrel racer - 2014-07-11 7:24 AM
I have had 2 daughters of Hot Colours by SE. They were a little different type of mare. The one was pretty people friendly, the other not so much. SE was one of the few sires that was able to produce Champion and Champion producing sons AND daughters. These horses then went on to produce Champions (on the track). They have made pretty nice arena horses too.
I have these mares now that go to him and so far love them.
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I could have told you your mares were Special Leaders from a mile away. I have always liked Special Effort but I LOVE his son Special Leader. I have a son of his and a friend of mine has a son of SL also and he really really stamped his babies you know a Special Leader when you see them. In my experience they have a ton of heart and they flat make barrel horses. I would have a pasture full of Special Leader broodmares if I could find them!
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| I couldn't load the picture of my son of Special Leader but here is a 3yr old filly by him she is out of a Doc O Lena mare. I have to see if I can get others resized. Ok got them and just like to share because I love the babies so much this year. The son of Special Leader was still in his fuzzies.
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Location: In a happy place | The Special Effort horses I have had were awesome barrel horses that could sure enough run. I can pick a Special Effort bred horse every time I see one or a picture of one. They are such good looking horses. |
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Location: Carpenter, WY | here is mine :) The dam of this colt is a daughter of Proudest Effort
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Location: SE Missouri | We owned a full brother to Special Effort (Especial Effects) and he actually had some intermittent issues with abscesses also. He was very quirky BUT I think it had a lot to do with how he was handled after retiring from the track (he was AAA). The BEST stud I've handled in the breeding shed but if he didn't "like" you he could be a snake to just handle. I never had problems with him and he would suck his tongue when I would groom or bath him. I wish now we would have rode him or had pasture to turn him out on to be a real horses, I think it would have made a big difference on him mentally..
His colts that were given a shot made nice barrelhorses. I think he ended up in North Dakota and was raising some colts. I hadn't heard anything about them in several years. |
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | abrooks - 2014-07-13 3:07 PM We owned a full brother to Special Effort (Especial Effects) and he actually had some intermittent issues with abscesses also. He was very quirky BUT I think it had a lot to do with how he was handled after retiring from the track (he was AAA). The BEST stud I've handled in the breeding shed but if he didn't "like" you he could be a snake to just handle. I never had problems with him and he would suck his tongue when I would groom or bath him. I wish now we would have rode him or had pasture to turn him out on to be a real horses, I think it would have made a big difference on him mentally..
His colts that were given a shot made nice barrelhorses. I think he ended up in North Dakota and was raising some colts. I hadn't heard anything about them in several years.
He was in WY several years ago siring some nice barrel horses. I think he sold or died since. He was a looker in the ads I have seen of him. |
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Location: SE Missouri | wyoming barrel racer - 2014-07-13 4:43 PM abrooks - 2014-07-13 3:07 PM We owned a full brother to Special Effort (Especial Effects) and he actually had some intermittent issues with abscesses also. He was very quirky BUT I think it had a lot to do with how he was handled after retiring from the track (he was AAA). The BEST stud I've handled in the breeding shed but if he didn't "like" you he could be a snake to just handle. I never had problems with him and he would suck his tongue when I would groom or bath him. I wish now we would have rode him or had pasture to turn him out on to be a real horses, I think it would have made a big difference on him mentally..
His colts that were given a shot made nice barrelhorses. I think he ended up in North Dakota and was raising some colts. I hadn't heard anything about them in several years. He was in WY several years ago siring some nice barrel horses. I think he sold or died since. He was a looker in the ads I have seen of him.
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Location: Denver, but a Nebraska native -- GO BIG RED!!! | I had a daughter of Hot Colours who was a nutcase. She was scared of her own shadow. I don't know if she had been mistreated before I got her or what. She managed to get into some barbwire and effectively got her back leg off. BTW she was out of an an daughter of Rocket Wrangler. |
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The mare is a complete doll to be around. She isn't a "in your pocket" type horse, but she's so laid back and willing. She does have a lot of go to her, but after a couple seconds of convincing her to relax she walks off just fine.
Mine is very similar to Just Bring It's mare. She goes into a barrel really close, bends around it, and takes off like a powerhouse. I actually had to buy a new saddle JUST for this mare because I couldn't stay with her coming out of the turns. She is a very down to business type horse and doesn't want to be picked on. I have no reason to pick on her so I just try to let her work as much as possible, and especially try staying out of her way coming out of the turns :) |
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Location: So. Cali. | I have a maternal Great GrandDaughter of SE through Strawfly Special. Big bodied mare, very sweet in your pocket personality. Not marish at all. Love her mind and disposition. When shes 'on' shes 'on' on the barrels. Has clocked with some good ones. She is off the track so I always chalked her feet issues to that. She has pedal osteititus in her front right, so we have to keep her sole protected and pay attention to how short she gets trimmed.
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Location: Buffalo, Wyoming | I have a 7 year old Special Leader daughter that I LOVE! We bought her last year and she has been put on the back burner until recently. I am hoping I can start entering her in the next few months. She is so laid back and doesn't really get excited about anything else you take her buddy away when you are at a barrel race or something. She just need to be hauled more. She is very natural at everything she does. I would have a million of her if I could.
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