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Location: Good ole SE Mo | Sorry I know that you guys for sure probably get tired of these but I have a mare that was just badly injured this past weekend and I may never get to ride or run barrels on her again. She is a nice barrel horse and when she's in shape we are in the top of the results around here. Anyways I'm kicking around the idea of breeding her next spring so that maybe something good can come out of this horrible deal. Plus I think I would like to try my hand at this and my husband told me that either she's going to be sold or she's gonna make babies lol I know he's joking since all of this has happened.
Anyways I need some ideas on what would possible be a good cross with her. She gives a 120% every run, turns each barrel with her whole body not just run around it. She is a tad high strung but nothing I can't deal with most days.
I will try to attach her papers to show you her breeding and maybe you guys can give me some suggestions? My mom has one in mind, I have none and my husband wants a grulla foundation horse so that he can get a rope horse out of this lol.
Thanks so much! Plus not sure if this will ever actually come about but is step one is my research process.
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| We can sure try to help but the pedigree would be great and pics could also be a little helpful. And price range? |
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| Make sure the stud is AQHA since yours is appendix.
Also do you want to do AI or live cover? If you want to do AI budget for atleast 1500 more as sometimes they don't catch first or second time.
Has she had a foal before? She is over the age of 10, I have heard 10 is the magic no. I had a 9 yr old it took me 2 years to get her in foal. Just be prepared to spend a little more money to get her in foal. |
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Location: Good ole SE Mo | horsiace1025 - 2014-07-11 10:16 AM
We can sure try to help but the pedigree would be great and pics could also be a little helpful. And price range?
I can work on some pics of her(I finally got the pedigree up there). Price range is I'm not sure yet but not a fortune! lol I figure it will be $3000-$5000 but sure hope it is less than that. |
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Location: Good ole SE Mo | cheryl makofka - 2014-07-11 10:24 AM
Make sure the stud is AQHA since yours is appendix.
Also do you want to do AI or live cover? If you want to do AI budget for atleast 1500 more as sometimes they don't catch first or second time.
Has she had a foal before? She is over the age of 10, I have heard 10 is the magic no. I had a 9 yr old it took me 2 years to get her in foal. Just be prepared to spend a little more money to get her in foal.
That was one of the questions I was going to ask, about the appendix deal. I am thinking a stud that has thrown out barrel horses but I am playing around with possibly the idea of something with cow in it to possibly rope off of as well?
I would like live cover but where I am ( Southeast Missouri) I don't really know of anything close, not saying there isn't! So I figure AI is going to be my option. Thanks for the info on more $ with AI.
No she has never had a foal. Really this wasn't even on the table since I finally had time to run her and she wasn't hurt this year and such. But of course she had other plans. This is the kind of info I need to know before I actually jump into this as I don't want to spend a whole bunch of money that could be used to just go buy something already on the ground and just feed her for the next 20 years.
Hopefully her foot heals properly and I won't have to actually do this!
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Location: Do I hear Banjos? | Not to be Neagtive Nancy...but if she was just injured badly enough that it's likely she won't be able to compete or maybe even be ridden...will she be pasture sound? Able to bear the extra stress/weight of carrying a foal?
I hope time will heal and she will be able to keep on truckin...but just remember that pregnancy IS a stress and sometimes unsound for riding means unsound for breeding too. |
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Location: Good ole SE Mo | This is all I have on my work computer..... Not the best as she was NOT happy to have her picture taken and not eat grass lol
Here is one of her running barrels
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Location: Good ole SE Mo | TrailGirl - 2014-07-11 10:32 AM
Not to be Neagtive Nancy...but if she was just injured badly enough that it's likely she won't be able to compete or maybe even be ridden...will she be pasture sound? Able to bear the extra stress/weight of carrying a foal?
I hope time will heal and she will be able to keep on truckin...but just remember that pregnancy IS a stress and sometimes unsound for riding means unsound for breeding too.
That is something that will be made sure of before all of this happens. I did tell the vet when it happened and she was working on her that I didn't care if I ever rode her again, I want her at least broodmare sound and not in long term pain and alive. She seemed to think that wouldn't be a problem but no one knows the future. I don't want anything else to go wrong. If her foot is not going to be ok to carry a foal, then no I will not breed her. This may not ever happen but I was just curious what other people thought might cross well with her papers. I really hope she heals well enough to be able to run again. I was just starting to really enjoy running her and we were really geehawing good together lol She got her foot caught in the "divider/wall" between the horse part and tack part of my bumper pull stock trailer and ended up ripping it out of there. She cut her back foot between the heel bulb up around the outside above the coronary band towards the front and then another place down from that line in between the bulb and the front of the foot. Right now she is in a cast for 1 -3 weeks (depending on how hard she is on it) and then we may know more. The vet could touch the navicular bone with her finger in the cut :( We know the outside heel bulb will fall off with the way she cut it but the vet thinks it will grow back, just take 6 months to a year. I know the healing will be a long process, I'm just sorta day dreaming of a decent future for her so that I don't get too far in the dumps about it. But I do know that it could be not good at all.
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Location: Do I hear Banjos? | Oh wow...I truly hope she heals fully. You never know. Sometimes they can be so resilient. And she is a pretty pretty girl too. |
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| You need a strong and recognizable sire because your mares lines are not well known with the exception of MSM. This means that you could easily spend $3K on a stud fee. If that is an option I'd go with:
A Streak of Fling
Judge Cash
Eddie Stinson
If you want to keep the fee a little lower and still have a nice baby I'd go with:
Slick by Design
Lions Share of Fame
French StreaktoVegas
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Location: Good ole SE Mo | Whiteboy - 2014-07-11 10:55 AM
You need a strong and recognizable sire because your mares lines are not well known with the exception of MSM. This means that you could easily spend $3K on a stud fee. If that is an option I'd go with:
A Streak of Fling
Judge Cash
Eddie Stinson
If you want to keep the fee a little lower and still have a nice baby I'd go with:
Slick by Design
Lions Share of Fame
French StreaktoVegas
Ok... How do you feel about Reds Western Native? That's who my mom is really wanting.
I think I need a guy that can maybe even out her "hotness" She is a quick learner and is totally focused once the task is begun but until then.... ADHD kicks in lol
Thanks for the suggestions of these guys. I am going to have to look into them. I've never been one to pay any attention to who horses really are, I can recoginze a popular name but that's about it. Heck when I first got Dixie (my mare) I thougth MSM was a mare (it had Martha in the name lol) I was having a HUGE blond/airhead/dumb@@s moment that day lol. |
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Location: Good ole SE Mo | TrailGirl - 2014-07-11 10:49 AM
Oh wow...I truly hope she heals fully. You never know. Sometimes they can be so resilient. And she is a pretty pretty girl too.
Thanks! It helps her to be able to stick around since she's awful pretty but somedays her attitude is not so pretty lol We're going to take this healing process one step at a time and slowly |
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| Reds Western Native is really nice. He fits into the second catagory. He has been producing nice horses, but they seem to be staying regional. I wouldn't be scared to give him a try by any means. |
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| roperqueen - 2014-07-12 9:40 AM
Whiteboy - 2014-07-11 10:55 AM
You need a strong and recognizable sire because your mares lines are not well known with the exception of MSM. This means that you could easily spend $3K on a stud fee. If that is an option I'd go with:
A Streak of Fling
Judge Cash
Eddie Stinson
If you want to keep the fee a little lower and still have a nice baby I'd go with:
Slick by Design
Lions Share of Fame
French StreaktoVegas
Ok... How do you feel about Reds Western Native? That's who my mom is really wanting.
I think I need a guy that can maybe even out her "hotness" She is a quick learner and is totally focused once the task is begun but until then.... ADHD kicks in lol
Thanks for the suggestions of these guys. I am going to have to look into them. I've never been one to pay any attention to who horses really are, I can recoginze a popular name but that's about it. Heck when I first got Dixie (my mare ) I thougth MSM was a mare (it had Martha in the name lol ) I was having a HUGE blond/airhead/dumb@@s moment that day lol.
The Eddie Stinson I had was not hot at all and was out of a hot mare! Lol... He is really good minded |
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Location: Where I am happiest | 4 more to add to your short list
Firewaterontherocks
Frenchmans Fabulous
Flaming Firewater
Blazen Jetolena |
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| And Chasin Firewater. The more advise you get the harder the decision will be! haha |
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Location: Where I am happiest | Whiteboy - 2014-07-11 1:36 PM And Chasin Firewater. The more advise you get the harder the decision will be! haha
Another good one.
The main reason I would lean towards the Firewater Flit's is they bring to the table what your looking for AND the Flit Bar/Martha Six Moons has been a VERY successfull nick. |
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| Whiteboy - 2014-07-11 12:36 PM
And Chasin Firewater. The more advise you get the harder the decision will be! haha
No kidding that is the honest truth!! My short list does nothing but grow!!
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| I would also vote for Blazin Jetolena or a firwater flit also. But if you are wanting a cow horse too then the frenchstreaktovegas vote is a good cross.
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Location: Good ole SE Mo | Whiteboy - 2014-07-11 1:36 PM
And Chasin Firewater. The more advise you get the harder the decision will be! haha
haha Yes the short list will always grow the more advise/options you get!! But I really appreciate all of the suggestions. This will give me something to do to fill in the slow gaps at work :) Got lots to look at and think about.
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Location: Gainesville, TX | I've got a good looking very sweet Chasin firewater on the ground right now. I think he would balance your mare well and FFs tend to be more user friendly, not as hot. |
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Location: Texas | If your wanting a barrel horse and a possible roping horse go with IMA Firefighter. Check out the videos of him roping and running barrels on this website. http://www.walzperformancehorses.com/imafirefighter.htm |
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Location: north dakota | If your looking for a barrel/ roping horse I would consider A Smooth Guy.
I really like my Firewater Ta Fame filly but he is a big boy.
Someone suggested a couple Tres Seis sons and we have a really nice one that has a proven pedigree top and bottom but he may be a little big for a roping horse |
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Location: Washington. (The DRY side.) | As far as I am concerned her age is NOT an issue. I've bred MULTIPLE maiden mares that were much older than she is and they conceived first cycle bred. |
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Location: Good ole SE Mo | RacingQH - 2014-07-12 8:34 PM
As far as I am concerned her age is NOT an issue. I've bred MULTIPLE maiden mares that were much older than she is and they conceived first cycle bred.
When I told my Mom about possibly having a harder time with her since she was 12. She was like well lots of people wait and have no trouble lol Thank you for letting me know that you have not had trouble with some. But I am glad that Cheryl let me know that it could take a while. Don't want to go into this thinking it's all gonna be sunshine and roses lol |
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Location: Texas | You may want to consider A streak of Fame, he is by Streak A Fling and out of a Dash Ta Fame mare, He has $20,000 in lifetime earnings and was only run his 4 and 5 year old year. He is a full brother to Fame Fling and Bling. He has a great disposition and confirmation. You can see more at http://www.hokaheyfarm.com/streaker.html
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Who to breed too??? hehe