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Location: California | Good years vs Bad years? How many miles are too many? What should I look for or ask about? Any help would be greatly appreciated. I don't really have anyone I feel like I can ask that knows enough. I don't want to get into a ton of maintenance but I don't have the finances to buy a new or almost new truck. Thank you! |
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Location: California | I'm mainly leaning towards a Dodge. I am not apposed to the Chevy's. I need a 3/4 ton or 1 ton, either or. Engine wise I have no preference as of right now because I do not know enough. Looking at 2004/05 or newer at this point. |
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Location: NC | After just buying an 06 chevy 3500 dually i can tell you no matter where you buy it from take it to a mechanic!!! Doesnt matter if your buying local or buying 300 miles away. We didnt, bought it and brought it home to find out they had straight-piped it. Oh and 3 days after buying and bringing it home (from pa) the hydro-boost went, which meant i lost all power steering fluid as well as almost losing breaks.
Mine has 154k and is in good shape otherwise.
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Location: California | Racer4eva - 2014-07-21 5:16 PM After just buying an 06 chevy 3500 dually i can tell you no matter where you buy it from take it to a mechanic!!! Doesnt matter if your buying local or buying 300 miles away. We didnt, bought it and brought it home to find out they had straight-piped it. Oh and 3 days after buying and bringing it home (from pa) the hydro-boost went, which meant i lost all power steering fluid as well as almost losing breaks. Mine has 154k and is in good shape otherwise. Oh and dont buy black.... keeping it cleans a pain ;)
I have been looking locally and in Texas. I have a mechanic both places and definitely plan on having it looked at. I loveeee black but I do own a black car and it is definitely a pain! lol |
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| If u find something u like do research on that make and model to see what problems people have had a lot of problems with 06 fords we had problems with 08 dodge until removed emissions had great luck with 06 dodges and my friends have too |
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Location: OH | Do not buy a Ford with the 6.4 diesel in it, we have one and it has been a nightmare. |
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Location: Kentucky | 7.3 Powerstroke or a 12v Cummins. Easiest things on the planet to work on, and will last you forever. |
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Location: Oklahoma | I am married to a diesel mechanic... we have an 05 Chevy 3500 with the LLY engine. It's got 234,000 miles on it and still running strong!!! My husband will not look at the 6.0 or 6.4 Ford's. He likes Chevy's first and the dodges with the 5.9 or the 12 Valve. |
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Location: California | I have a 7.3 with 255k miles on it. Still runs and pulls strong but I have spent a lot of money in replacing everything in it. I do not wanta lot of mainenance which is why I am not sure how many miles is too many. I wouldn't buy a Ford again at this point and I have heard some issues were in the 08 and 09 dodges which is why I ask. I really like the 06 dodges and I have found a couple 07-09 chevy's. |
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| Murphy - 2014-07-22 7:30 AM
7.3 Powerstroke or a 12v Cummins. Easiest things on the planet to work on, and will last you forever.
True on the 12 valve cummins, last year was early 1998. My fathers work truck is a 1996, has hauled two full slip tanks of fuel down horrible roads as he builds roads.
The truck has over 500k miles on it, the engine has never been worked on, replaced 1 clutch, redone the electrical twice, the front end twice, fuel pump once, then just maintenance on the truck. Sadly the body has rusted out beyond repair.
Had a mechanic say my father could easily get 5-10 k for the engine alone.
Parents went to a farm sale, there was a 12v dodge sold for 20k
Father also has a 1993 and 1998 12v both also have over 500k miles on them.
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Location: Kentucky | cheryl makofka - 2014-07-22 2:02 PM Murphy - 2014-07-22 7:30 AM 7.3 Powerstroke or a 12v Cummins. Easiest things on the planet to work on, and will last you forever. True on the 12 valve cummins, last year was early 1998. My fathers work truck is a 1996, has hauled two full slip tanks of fuel down horrible roads as he builds roads. The truck has over 500k miles on it, the engine has never been worked on, replaced 1 clutch, redone the electrical twice, the front end twice, fuel pump once, then just maintenance on the truck. Sadly the body has rusted out beyond repair. Had a mechanic say my father could easily get 5-10 k for the engine alone. Parents went to a farm sale, there was a 12v dodge sold for 20k Father also has a 1993 and 1998 12v both also have over 500k miles on them.
Cummins prices in your area must be high. You can buy 12V engines all day down here for cheap, cheap. It's not uncommon to find 12v trucks for 6-7k that are in great shape. Those trucks are just common down here.
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| little_bug - 2014-07-22 11:08 AM
I have a 7.3 with 255k miles on it. Still runs and pulls strong but I have spent a lot of money in replacing everything in it. I do not wanta lot of mainenance which is why I am not sure how many miles is too many. I wouldn't buy a Ford again at this point and I have heard some issues were in the 08 and 09 dodges which is why I ask. I really like the 06 dodges and I have found a couple 07-09 chevy's.
08 dodge the problem is with the computer, there is a bog when you depress the accelerator, there is a class action lawsuit regarding this.
If you cut the cadolic convertor and put the chip in the bog goes away, you get better fuel mileage.
I have an 06 dodge diesel love the engine, but the transmission is a little weak. I replaced mine at 200k, had a cylinder replaced at 225 on warranty.
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| little_bug - 2014-07-21 8:25 PM
Racer4eva - 2014-07-21 5:16 PM After just buying an 06 chevy 3500 dually i can tell you no matter where you buy it from take it to a mechanic!!! Doesnt matter if your buying local or buying 300 miles away. We didnt, bought it and brought it home to find out they had straight-piped it. Oh and 3 days after buying and bringing it home (from pa) the hydro-boost went, which meant i lost all power steering fluid as well as almost losing breaks. Mine has 154k and is in good shape otherwise. Oh and dont buy black.... keeping it cleans a pain ;)
I have been looking locally and in Texas. I have a mechanic both places and definitely plan on having it looked at. I loveeee black but I do own a black car and it is definitely a pain! lol
I would get the "car fax" see what has been done, I would also get the truck plugged into the computer to see what codes show up.
Also take the truck to an independent mechanic, not their or one at the dealer if that is who you are going through. |
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| My advice is to figure out exactly what you are looking for, the price you are absolutely not willing to go over, the term(60, 72, etc), and be willing to walk away from any vehicle that doesn't stay within that criteria. I never answer the sales vultures when they ask me "what do you want your payments to be", haha nice try!! If you see any faults on the truck make sure you point it out to them... If it needs new tires, tell them and use that as part of your negotiations. When you test drive it, drive it like you stole it and listen carefully, anything that might sound off make a note of it and you can have your mechanic look at it over for you. I also ask that they through the TT&L in, sometimes I get lucky sometimes not! Also the end of the month is the best time to try and get good deals(not like buying a car is ever a good deal but it might be a better deal) |
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Location: California | FlyingJT - 2014-07-22 10:16 AM My advice is to figure out exactly what you are looking for, the price you are absolutely not willing to go over, the term(60, 72, etc), and be willing to walk away from any vehicle that doesn't stay within that criteria. I never answer the sales vultures when they ask me "what do you want your payments to be", haha nice try!! If you see any faults on the truck make sure you point it out to them... If it needs new tires, tell them and use that as part of your negotiations. When you test drive it, drive it like you stole it and listen carefully, anything that might sound off make a note of it and you can have your mechanic look at it over for you. I also ask that they through the TT&L in, sometimes I get lucky sometimes not! Also the end of the month is the best time to try and get good deals(not like buying a car is ever a good deal but it might be a better deal)
Thank you! I do have an exact price range as I already got the approval for a loan and know my payments ect. I only use it for hauling and I haul a 4 horse Elite with a large dressing room, usually loaded down, and we live in the mountains so there are some grades. I think most trucks can haul it just fine. I have my dream body style but they are a little higher than I want to spend.
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Location: Lost in the corn of Iowa. | Mighty Broke - 2014-07-22 7:22 AM
Do not buy a Ford with the 6.4 diesel in it, we have one and it has been a nightmare.
We just took our deisel in to have fixed and the shop was telling us the same thing, that Ford designed the 6.4's as a throw away motor. And they are the test shop for a nationwide magazine. They said the 7.3 is good, they even like the 6.0 (once it's been upgraded with the EGR delete and all the other stuff) and the new motors that Ford has out they really like..I wanna say they are 6.7s but am not for sure on the liter size. I know a guy that took his 6.4 into the shop because of a knock and now he's on his 2nd motor with less than 500 miles on it!! The first motor was replaced and now the replacement motor is a busted mess as well. Just and FYI. Good luck. |
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Location: Kentucky | Girls_Gotta_Jet - 2014-07-22 3:02 PM Mighty Broke - 2014-07-22 7:22 AM Do not buy a Ford with the 6.4 diesel in it, we have one and it has been a nightmare. We just took our deisel in to have fixed and the shop was telling us the same thing, that Ford designed the 6.4's as a throw away motor. And they are the test shop for a nationwide magazine. They said the 7.3 is good, they even like the 6.0 (once it's been upgraded with the EGR delete and all the other stuff ) and the new motors that Ford has out they really like..I wanna say they are 6.7s but am not for sure on the liter size. I know a guy that took his 6.4 into the shop because of a knock and now he's on his 2nd motor with less than 500 miles on it!! The first motor was replaced and now the replacement motor is a busted mess as well. Just and FYI. Good luck.
We are diehard Ford people and like the 7.3, 6.0 (gasp), and the 6.7. I don't think I would personally buy a 6.4, but there are Ford guys out there that love them and know how to work them. We know how to work on 6.0's, so we aren't opposed to them. |
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Location: Lost in the corn of Iowa. | Murphy - 2014-07-22 2:07 PM
Girls_Gotta_Jet - 2014-07-22 3:02 PM Mighty Broke - 2014-07-22 7:22 AM Do not buy a Ford with the 6.4 diesel in it, we have one and it has been a nightmare. We just took our deisel in to have fixed and the shop was telling us the same thing, that Ford designed the 6.4's as a throw away motor. And they are the test shop for a nationwide magazine. They said the 7.3 is good, they even like the 6.0 (once it's been upgraded with the EGR delete and all the other stuff ) and the new motors that Ford has out they really like..I wanna say they are 6.7s but am not for sure on the liter size. I know a guy that took his 6.4 into the shop because of a knock and now he's on his 2nd motor with less than 500 miles on it!! The first motor was replaced and now the replacement motor is a busted mess as well. Just and FYI. Good luck.
We really like our 6.0, I know they are the bastard child of Ford. But my husband is die hard Ford. I'm die hard anything that is dependable. LOL!! We have the 6.0 with a manual 6 speed behind it. So that makes a world of difference. Plus when we start the 6.0 it doesn't sound like we're winding up a freight train :) |
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Location: California | I will not buy a Ford. I am not apposed to the newer ones but they aren't in my price range. Craigslist and Autotrader are LOADED with all the Fords. From the looks of it they can't even give them away. |
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Location: In a happy place | Girls_Gotta_Jet - 2014-07-22 2:16 PM Murphy - 2014-07-22 2:07 PM Girls_Gotta_Jet - 2014-07-22 3:02 PM Mighty Broke - 2014-07-22 7:22 AM Do not buy a Ford with the 6.4 diesel in it, we have one and it has been a nightmare. We just took our deisel in to have fixed and the shop was telling us the same thing, that Ford designed the 6.4's as a throw away motor. And they are the test shop for a nationwide magazine. They said the 7.3 is good, they even like the 6.0 (once it's been upgraded with the EGR delete and all the other stuff ) and the new motors that Ford has out they really like..I wanna say they are 6.7s but am not for sure on the liter size. I know a guy that took his 6.4 into the shop because of a knock and now he's on his 2nd motor with less than 500 miles on it!! The first motor was replaced and now the replacement motor is a busted mess as well. Just and FYI. Good luck. We really like our 6.0, I know they are the bastard child of Ford. But my husband is die hard Ford. I'm die hard anything that is dependable. LOL!! We have the 6.0 with a manual 6 speed behind it. So that makes a world of difference. Plus when we start the 6.0 it doesn't sound like we're winding up a freight train : )
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Location: Lost in the corn of Iowa. | little_bug - 2014-07-22 2:27 PM
I will not buy a Ford. I am not apposed to the newer ones but they aren't in my price range. Craigslist and Autotrader are LOADED with all the Fords. From the looks of it they can't even give them away.
Something to look at would be on older common rail diesel or a a 12 valve cummins with a manual transmission. Pretty tough motors and you can do plenty of upgrades for more horsepower. And they'd be older so the price would be down compared to a newer model truck. Just a thought. |
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Location: Kentucky | little_bug - 2014-07-22 3:27 PM I will not buy a Ford. I am not apposed to the newer ones but they aren't in my price range. Craigslist and Autotrader are LOADED with all the Fords. From the looks of it they can't even give them away.
They have been the number one selling pickup for 37 years, there is going to be a lot of them :)
My suggestion is to figure out the year, make, and model of the vehicle you want and then test drive each of them. |
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Location: Buffalo, TX | sport565 - 2014-07-22 2:09 AM If u find something u like do research on that make and model to see what problems people have had a lot of problems with 06 fords we had problems with 08 dodge until removed emissions had great luck with 06 dodges and my friends have too
I have a 2006 Dodge and I won't trade it for anything, especially a new one....it has the Mercedes transmission, which is proven to be the best one Dodge ever used (at least that's what Mr. Truck, Ken, says!)...I'll still be driving mine at 500,000K miles....it's a real cream puff...
Check the Carfax on anything to see how much warranty work was done to avoid a lemon....
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Location: Lost in the corn of Iowa. | Cindy Hamilton - 2014-07-22 3:22 PM sport565 - 2014-07-22 2:09 AM If u find something u like do research on that make and model to see what problems people have had a lot of problems with 06 fords we had problems with 08 dodge until removed emissions had great luck with 06 dodges and my friends have too I have a 2006 Dodge and I won't trade it for anything, especially a new one....it has the Mercedes transmission, which is proven to be the best one Dodge ever used (at least that's what Mr. Truck, Ken, says!)...I'll still be driving mine at 500,000K miles....it's a real cream puff...
Check the Carfax on anything to see how much warranty work was done to avoid a lemon....
I have a Jeep Lierty that is my daily driver that has the Mercedes transmission and a common rail deisel and I love that thing. I'll be driving it forever!!
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Location: North Texas | cheryl makofka - 2014-07-22 1:10 PM little_bug - 2014-07-21 8:25 PM Racer4eva - 2014-07-21 5:16 PM After just buying an 06 chevy 3500 dually i can tell you no matter where you buy it from take it to a mechanic!!! Doesnt matter if your buying local or buying 300 miles away. We didnt, bought it and brought it home to find out they had straight-piped it. Oh and 3 days after buying and bringing it home (from pa) the hydro-boost went, which meant i lost all power steering fluid as well as almost losing breaks. Mine has 154k and is in good shape otherwise. Oh and dont buy black.... keeping it cleans a pain ;) I have been looking locally and in Texas. I have a mechanic both places and definitely plan on having it looked at. I loveeee black but I do own a black car and it is definitely a pain! lol I would get the "car fax" see what has been done, I would also get the truck plugged into the computer to see what codes show up. Also take the truck to an independent mechanic, not their or one at the dealer if that is who you are going through.
It is my understanding and experince that AutoChek is a better quality research tool than CarFax.
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Location: North Texas | little_bug - 2014-07-22 2:27 PM I will not buy a Ford. I am not apposed to the newer ones but they aren't in my price range. Craigslist and Autotrader are LOADED with all the Fords. From the looks of it they can't even give them away.
I'll would be being to bet my current 7.3 Powerstroke that the majority of what you are seeing on Craig's List and Autotrader is the 'problem children' Fords and Dodges not the old 7.3 Powerstrokes and 5.9 12V Cummins. These two niche trucks are becoming as scarce as hen's teeth and therefore reflect their rarity/scarity in pricetags to the point of sticker stock. Been There Done That. |
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Location: Ohio | I always had dodges in the past but found a good deal on a 99 7.3 F250... holy potatoes! I see know why everyone loves them. That thing has tons of power to spare on my fully loaded 4 horse steel trailer (dividers left open we can squeeze 6-7). The fuel mileage leaves my dodges and gas engines in the dust. This truck has made me a believer, even for its age its the best truck I've pulled with. |
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Location: North Texas | GrittyCowgirl - 2014-07-22 3:43 PM I always had dodges in the past but found a good deal on a 99 7.3 F250... holy potatoes! I see know why everyone loves them. That thing has tons of power to spare on my fully loaded 4 horse steel trailer (dividers left open we can squeeze 6-7). The fuel mileage leaves my dodges and gas engines in the dust. This truck has made me a believer, even for its age its the best truck I've pulled with.
Now, how do You think Ford gained the #1 Selling Truck in America for 37 years?
The 94 1/2 -2003 1/2 7.3L Powerstroke is the best generation of Diesel Pickup that Detroit ever designed from my perspective.
There is a simple reason that 7.3L Powerstrokes are difficult to find. People don't sell em!
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Location: Online | Good lord. Not the dreaded what truck should I buy discussion again. It's almost as bad as tie downs, saddles, or supplements. Everyone has their favorites and everyone has their opinions on what they like and don't like. It's about personal preference. So here's mine.....
The best old truck you can get is a 7.3 Ford. 5.9 cummins are great if you are willing to fix everything else on the truck constantly. Of course dodge people don't like to admit when their truck breaks down. It's taboo or something. You couldn't give me a 6.0 Ford for obvious reasons or a 6.7 dodge unless you like to put trannys in it. If you have someone who is willing to tweak the 6.0 Ford enough to get more than 10000 miles between shop visits, that's great, get one. Otherwise don't touch it. I have a 6.4 Ford and it is an animal, best truck I've ever pulled with. My next truck will be a 6.7 Ford. Best truck ever to date. Won't own a Chevy anything.
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| I just hauled a 6.0 ford to a mechainic that works for,the power company he put an exhaust gas sensor on truck sent it back to,owner theymdrove it 150 miles i towed it to,a dealer, same problem. |
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Location: California | I have a 7.3.. only truck I have ever owned. The transmission and enginge on it are great but I think I have had to replace every other thing in it. My father's 7.3 has 550k miles on it with the stock transmission still. Both trucks are automatics. I'm not really wanting something quite as old though. More like the 05/06 and up so I am looking more at the Dodge's. My biggest issues is not knowing how many miles is too many when I say I don't want to have to start replacing everything in the engine. |
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Location: Kentucky | little_bug - 2014-07-22 11:19 PM I have a 7.3.. only truck I have ever owned. The transmission and enginge on it are great but I think I have had to replace every other thing in it. My father's 7.3 has 550k miles on it with the stock transmission still. Both trucks are automatics. I'm not really wanting something quite as old though. More like the 05/06 and up so I am looking more at the Dodge's. My biggest issues is not knowing how many miles is too many when I say I don't want to have to start replacing everything in the engine.
Diesels are different. I'm not scared of mileage if the truck is taken care of. "High miles" is completely subjective. We have a 7.3 that has 214k miles and a 6.0 that has almost 250k miles. Neither one of those is high miles to me. My 2001 Escape has 313k miles.... that's high mileage to me because it's a gas vehicle, but it's been taken care of.
If you see something that you like, but consider high mileage, ask for maintenance records. Anyone who takes care of the vehicles will have records. |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | My 2005 GMC was an awesome truck. It's been on the farm for 3.5 years and the only work it has needed was something done to the air conditioner. It was pre-emissions crap and trouble-free. The 2008 I drove for 2.5 years had 145,000 miles on it when it went on the farm, and the only issue I'd had with it was when I put bad fuel in it and had to get the fuel filter changed out on the side of the road. We thought the injectors were going to need replacing after that because the truck kept going into cleaning cycles and messing up the fuel mileage, but after about a year, it straightened up and has been good since. The 2010 I bought used last summer was great until this spring, and it started throwing codes. We replaced a sensor, that fixed it for 1500 miles, then it did it worse and messed up our vacation. After 3+ weeks in the shop, one aborted attempt to take it home, it seems to be fixed by replacing a bad connection. It's had a few hundred miles put on it since, so we will see. I think having everything so dependent on the computer and electronics were a horrible idea. Other than that, I love the truck.
I had a 2000 Ford with the 7.3. It was reliable--had an o-ring go out at 90,000 miles, has been on the farm since 2005 and still going strong. But, I hated the truck itself. The seats hurt my back, and it rode and drove like a log wagon. I've driven a 2011 and 2014 belonging to someone else, and same issue. Nice engine and all, although the first gen has an issue with shutting the engine down rather than going into limp mode. They fixed the gen2, but have no plans to fix gen1. So keep in mind, if you have a sensor go out (which they WILL--has been common around 80,000 miles), your truck will suddenly die and you have seconds to get it out of the road. Then it has to sit for a while before it will restart, or you have to reset it with a code reader, which is very expensive for Ford. (You can use the cheap one for GM or Dodge)
We have 1996 and 2004 Dodges on the farm. They are beasts as far as engine goes, but the other components of the truck are less than impressive IMO...others may disagree. I had a 1998 with the old engine for a couple of years. It put me on the side of the road with horses 3 times in the first 30,000 miles (alternator burned up, power steering pump went out which meant I had no steering or brakes--funfun, and tranny fluid line broke). It also had brake problems that were unfixable. I got to where I didn't want to drive it without a trailer because I couldn't stop it, even after replacing every single freaking component of the braking system. I almost hit the back of a log truck, and I did rear-end someone going down the hill coming out of Sonic in Monticello even tho I was standing on the brake pedal--the truck could not stop all the way, just kept creeping forward. I heard that was a common issue in the 98s and even some later years. |
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Location: southeast Texas | Proud owner of a 2000 F350 knocking on the back door of 300k miles. Just purchased a 2007 dodge ram 3500 mega cab, 8' bed. 127k miles. love the ride of my ford Lariet better. But the Dodge SLT is getting better mileage. |
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| little_bug - 2014-07-22 1:29 PM
FlyingJT - 2014-07-22 10:16 AM My advice is to figure out exactly what you are looking for, the price you are absolutely not willing to go over, the term(60, 72, etc), and be willing to walk away from any vehicle that doesn't stay within that criteria. I never answer the sales vultures when they ask me "what do you want your payments to be", haha nice try!! If you see any faults on the truck make sure you point it out to them... If it needs new tires, tell them and use that as part of your negotiations. When you test drive it, drive it like you stole it and listen carefully, anything that might sound off make a note of it and you can have your mechanic look at it over for you. I also ask that they through the TT&L in, sometimes I get lucky sometimes not! Also the end of the month is the best time to try and get good deals(not like buying a car is ever a good deal but it might be a better deal)
Thank you! I do have an exact price range as I already got the approval for a loan and know my payments ect. I only use it for hauling and I haul a 4 horse Elite with a large dressing room, usually loaded down, and we live in the mountains so there are some grades. I think most trucks can haul it just fine. I have my dream body style but they are a little higher than I want to spend.
Also any opinions on dually vs not?
replacing 6 vs 4 tires is something to think about. You can always install air bags if you are worried about weight if you don't go with a dually, but I can't imagine your trailer(even loaded down) to be too heavy. Dually's stink on ice or mud and if you live in the mountains that might be a pain. Dually's can however haul that extra weight if needed....
The Allison transmission in a Chevy or GMC is great when hauling. We had a 2008 GMC and I loved hauling with it in the mountains because when in tow/haul mode it helped a ton with saving my brakes and keeping it from shifting too much coming up the passes. Dodges have the pulling power, especially the older years, but my husband hates how uncomfortable they are. Fords well, unless you find you a 7.3 or go with a 2011 or newer with the 6.7, I would stay away from them. One of my husbands work trucks is a 6.4 and although it is a beast when it comes to pulling it has had soooo many problems. It just caught on fire last month and ended up with 13000 worth of damage, couldn't believe that the insurance company fixed it instead of totaling it. |
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