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| There is a Appy foal I purchased that has great bloodlines. Planning for my daughter to take it up threw 4H and be her future barrel prospect. Its the only spots in the field of 5 Qtr horses. Never ever dreamed I would have a Appys but she basically is a 3/4 qtr horse. Anyway I think she's going to have a heart for whoever owns her. So would you have overlooked her just because she has spots....around where I live not many like the Appys and don't see alot running the cans. Just wondering....spots or not....LOL!!  |
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        Location: NC | I would love a bay appy with a blanket!!! as long as the breeding looked good for barrels, and conformation was right I would snap one up in a heartbeat. Though I will say even though color doesnt matter with how a horse rides I do over look horses with a lot of white... I just don't like a horse with a lot of white, or most light colored horses... |
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     Location: Do I hear Banjos? | Maybe I'm biased...but I too never thought much about Appys...the ones I had seen working at the clinic...well in that area most were apple butts and onery. But like with anything else...there is a lot of variety and you have to take them as individuals. I took Jackpot on as a project for a friend to fit him up for sale. He never left. I fell in love and bought him myself. He's a big fella...but he's done it all for me. (Barrels, poles, drill team, CTR, parades...you name it...and he was a successful header back in the day). he is 25 now...and still the best ride in the pasture. Solid and honest.


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Hungarian Midget Woman
    Location: Midwest | I wouldn't mind one if it had nice lines I was familiar with... and a tail. |
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      Location: The edge of no where | For a 4-H project horse, sure. There are several that seem to be nice all-around horses. If I wanted something to rodeo on or a 1d horse, then no. |
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          Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | I would buy a green horse, if it was really, really fast, wasn't lazy or crazy and was over 14.3. |
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       Location: British Columbia | I love Appaloosas. I had one when I was younger and she was just the most reliable, fierce little mare I've ever owned. If I could find a CBHI SS Appy I would buy it. There just aren't enough breeders to get the kind of speed pedigree I would want with the spots, out here. |
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  Shipwrecked and Flat Out Zapped
Posts: 16390
          Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | I'd buy this one....if he wasn't dead......
 ApHC 462,762 • HYPP=N/N • 1987—2004 Chestnut blanket stallion Bred by Bill Blackmon String of Stars Star Trackin' Skippa Star Sabre Ette Skippa Sue Skippa Cord Chuchara Sue Ms Impressive Jack Impressive Lucky Bar Glamour Bar Miss Baron Jack Baron Bell Two Eyed Dotty
Master Star — the greatest son of String Of Stars — National Champion Stallion, Medallion Sire, Superior Halter Sire, ROM Sire, and sire of National & World Champion Producers Master Star was multiple World Champion Sire National Top Ten, ROM, Futurity Champion Sire Canadian National Champion Sire Canadian National Grand Champion Sire Unequaled disposition, muscling, correctness
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  Angel in a Sorrel Coat
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     Location: In a happy place | I absolutely would not over look an Appy. I had one that was an awesome horse. Ask Rockinas about her good luck she has had with Appys. |
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Posts: 41354
              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | I love appys, had them and would have another if the right one came along, I did have the chance to buy one if I had known he was for sale, but I had already bought a new Pozzi saddle so didnt want to spend anymore money, but if I had know he was for sale I would have bought him in a heartbeat. |
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | LRQHS - 2014-07-25 8:25 AM I'd buy this one....if he wasn't dead......
ApHC 462,762 • HYPP=N/N • 1987—2004
Chestnut blanket stallion
Bred by Bill Blackmon String of Stars Star Trackin' Skippa Star Sabre Ette Skippa Sue Skippa Cord Chuchara Sue Ms Impressive Jack Impressive Lucky Bar Glamour Bar Miss Baron Jack Baron Bell Two Eyed Dotty
 Master Star — the greatest son of String Of Stars —
National Champion Stallion, Medallion Sire,
Superior Halter Sire, ROM Sire,
and sire of National & World Champion Producers
Master Star was multiple World Champion Sire
National Top Ten, ROM, Futurity Champion Sire
Canadian National Champion Sire
Canadian National Grand Champion Sire
Unequaled dis position, muscling, correctness
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I Really Love Jeans
Posts: 3173
     Location: North Dakota | I owned a little gelding 20 years ago. he was under 14 hands but he could run with the big horses. I loved that horse, he never refused to do anything I asked of him. I got into a money crunch in college and was forced to sell him but he was one of the best I ever owned. I think appys make great all around horses and they don't have the soundness issues that other breeds have. |
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    Location: Wherever the Army sends my husband | If I planned on keeping it for myself I'd absolutely look. I'm a huge fan of Gay Bars Silver and almost bred a mare of mine to him years back. I know they aren't super popular so I would avoid one if I planned on reselling later down the road. |
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      Location: The best kept secret in TX | I think if got the oportunity to own a good one I would. But I would have to buy a fake tail Lol |
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| I got one not too long ago, she's is my head horse prospect. She is very minimaly handled and was for sale for a long time, I just kept getting drawn to her, something about her just spoke to me and I couldent find a quarter horse prospect that I liked in mybudget.
Im very pleased with my decision, and im sure she will go around the barrels more than once lol! |
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| There was an appy daughter of JOH on here a few months ago. I looked at her plenty!! If I had been in the market I would definitely have put her on the go see list. |
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   Location: Sperry, OK | MS2011 - 2014-07-25 8:13 AM For a 4-H project horse, sure. There are several that seem to be nice all-around horses. If I wanted something to rodeo on or a 1d horse, then no.
If you don't want to get outrun at a rodeo or jackpot by an appy (or think they are not 1D/rodeo potential) then don't come to N.E. Oklahoma.. at any given moment you just might get your tail handed to you by a lady and her appy! |
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       Location: At the race track with Ah Dee Ohs | ACEINTHEHOLE - 2014-07-25 9:23 AM MS2011 - 2014-07-25 8:13 AM For a 4-H project horse, sure. There are several that seem to be nice all-around horses. If I wanted something to rodeo on or a 1d horse, then no. If you don't want to get outrun at a rodeo or jackpot by an appy (or think they are not 1D/rodeo potential) then don't come to N.E. Oklahoma.. at any given moment you just might get your tail handed to you by a lady and her appy!
Here, here! |
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       Location: Greenville Texas | There are a LOT of Appy's running that dont have the traditional color...so you're running with alot of Appys and dont realize it. One of my very very best horses is an appy.People dont know it unless I tell them...or they look very close for small freckles. |
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     Location: Wonderful Wyoming | I grew up on them. They have personalities for sure, very intelligent but I did find them a bit stubborn at times. But I'm sure all breeds have that. My first was Bumpers Little Dove (not sure if there is any way to pull her pedigree) stood about 14.3-15 hands. She was black with white sprinkles and no tail lol. Then I started riding my dad's mare Lil Whoop Honey when I was about 10. She was a big thick 15.2. She was honestly used for it all-team roping both ends, calf roping, breakaway, barrels, poles and all ghymkhana events (I won several buckles on her), jumping and packing elk. She is the dam of my good barrel horse that is now 21 and packing my kids around...and my dad's mule, but we all try to forget about that. Here she is about 2 yrs ago at 31 and she is now 33. I can't say I would buy another because the value seems to be so so low on them. A lot of Appy haters, but I loved mine and if I wanted a good horse around just to have for myself, I wouldn't over look one.
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      Location: The edge of no where | ACEINTHEHOLE - 2014-07-25 9:23 AM MS2011 - 2014-07-25 8:13 AM For a 4-H project horse, sure. There are several that seem to be nice all-around horses. If I wanted something to rodeo on or a 1d horse, then no. If you don't want to get outrun at a rodeo or jackpot by an appy (or think they are not 1D/rodeo potential) then don't come to N.E. Oklahoma.. at any given moment you just might get your tail handed to you by a lady and her appy!
I'm not saying that one can't run barrels and be tough, because they certainly can.... How many Apps have you seen in the barrels at NFR? How many have won the BFA?
I'm just gonna go with the odds and probably stick to a QH bred to run barrels. |
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  Shipwrecked and Flat Out Zapped
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          Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | MS2011 - 2014-07-25 9:39 AM ACEINTHEHOLE - 2014-07-25 9:23 AM MS2011 - 2014-07-25 8:13 AM For a 4-H project horse, sure. There are several that seem to be nice all-around horses. If I wanted something to rodeo on or a 1d horse, then no. If you don't want to get outrun at a rodeo or jackpot by an appy (or think they are not 1D/rodeo potential) then don't come to N.E. Oklahoma.. at any given moment you just might get your tail handed to you by a lady and her appy! I'm not saying that one can't run barrels and be tough, because they certainly can....
How many Apps have you seen in the barrels at NFR? How many have won the BFA?
I'm just gonna go with the odds and probably stick to a QH bred to run barrels.
Oh no, you didn't lol.....now, I'm going to find my green horse and you're going down lol. |
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  Whack and Roll
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      Location: NE Texas | MS2011 - 2014-07-25 9:39 AM ACEINTHEHOLE - 2014-07-25 9:23 AM MS2011 - 2014-07-25 8:13 AM For a 4-H project horse, sure. There are several that seem to be nice all-around horses. If I wanted something to rodeo on or a 1d horse, then no. If you don't want to get outrun at a rodeo or jackpot by an appy (or think they are not 1D/rodeo potential) then don't come to N.E. Oklahoma.. at any given moment you just might get your tail handed to you by a lady and her appy! I'm not saying that one can't run barrels and be tough, because they certainly can....
How many Apps have you seen in the barrels at NFR? How many have won the BFA?
I'm just gonna go with the odds and probably stick to a QH bred to run barrels.
It's simple economics.....how many appys are born each year vs quarter horses? Then how many of those few born make it into the hands of futurity trainers or barrel horse people....very few. I would say that if the numbers were equal on foals born for appys and QH's, and then the numbers were equal as to the number of appys that went to trainers, then statistics would be much different. I'd say less than 5% of the horses going to futurity trainers are appys, maybe more like 1%.
I'd love to have a running bred appy....know where there is one at that i'd still like to have (wink, wink, total performance) and wouldn't bat an eye if the horse was made right....spots or no spots. That being said, if you are buying an appy or a paint for the purpose of training them to sell, I would agree that they bring less than a comparable QH....and I think this is simply due to the fact that no matter how nicely they work, there are still paint/appy haters out there. |
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       Location: Greenville Texas | I think C.James rode one at the NFR...I cant remember when...but I'm pretty sure it was her or one of the other top hands.
The history of Appaloosa's is very very interesting and if you read closely you'll learn why the breed has had to deal with bad press. It stemmed from the Indian wars and what happened to the breed thru the U.S. goverment during that time.
I like Appys but I like any sort of good horse no matter the breed...so I'm not trying to start an argument or anything...I'm just saying there is alot more to the story of Appys than is commonly known and I feel bad that they get such a bad P.R.
If you have a AQHA that acts like an ass...it isn't "Oh I Hate Quarter Horses"....but if you have a horse that acts like a jerk and it has appy spots...it's immediately a BAD Appaloosa and how awful the Appaloosa breed is. Horses are horses...some good some not no matter the breed.
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      Location: NE Texas | brushycreekfarm - 2014-07-25 9:55 AM I think C.James rode one at the NFR...I cant remember when...but I'm pretty sure it was her or one of the other top hands.
The history of Appaloosa's is very very interesting and if you read closely you'll learn why the breed has had to deal with bad press.
It stemmed from the Indian wars and what happened to the breed thru the U.S. goverment during that time.
I like Appys but I like any sort of good horse no matter the breed...so I'm not trying to start an argument or anything...I'm just saying there is alot more to the story of Appys than is commonly known and I feel bad that they get such a bad P.R.
If you have a AQHA that acts like an ass...it isn't "Oh I Hate Quarter Horses"....but if you have a horse that acts like a jerk and it has appy spots...it's immediately a BAD Appaloosa and how awful the Appaloosa breed is.
Horses are horses...some good some not no matter the breed.
Totally agree! And enter wolf whistle here....that's a handsome pony no matter the breed! |
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  Shipwrecked and Flat Out Zapped
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          Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | Herbie - 2014-07-25 9:50 AM MS2011 - 2014-07-25 9:39 AM ACEINTHEHOLE - 2014-07-25 9:23 AM MS2011 - 2014-07-25 8:13 AM For a 4-H project horse, sure. There are several that seem to be nice all-around horses. If I wanted something to rodeo on or a 1d horse, then no. If you don't want to get outrun at a rodeo or jackpot by an appy (or think they are not 1D/rodeo potential) then don't come to N.E. Oklahoma.. at any given moment you just might get your tail handed to you by a lady and her appy! I'm not saying that one can't run barrels and be tough, because they certainly can....
How many Apps have you seen in the barrels at NFR? How many have won the BFA?
I'm just gonna go with the odds and probably stick to a QH bred to run barrels. It's simple economics.....how many appys are born each year vs quarter horses? Then how many of those few born make it into the hands of futurity trainers or barrel horse people....very few. I would say that if the numbers were equal on foals born for appys and QH's, and then the numbers were equal as to the number of appys that went to trainers, then statistics would be much different. I'd say less than 5% of the horses going to futurity trainers are appys, maybe more like 1%.
I'd love to have a running bred appy....know where there is one at that i'd still like to have (wink, wink, total performance) and wouldn't bat an eye if the horse was made right....spots or no spots. That being said, if you are buying an appy or a paint for the purpose of training them to sell, I would agree that they bring less than a comparable QH....and I think this is simply due to the fact that no matter how nicely they work, there are still paint/appy haters out there.
And......right after I beat MS with my green pony, I'm coming whoop up on you with my super fast spotted mule...prepare for annilation :) |
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       Location: Greenville Texas | Thanks....I like her |
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      Location: NE Texas | LRQHS - 2014-07-25 10:04 AM Herbie - 2014-07-25 9:50 AM MS2011 - 2014-07-25 9:39 AM ACEINTHEHOLE - 2014-07-25 9:23 AM MS2011 - 2014-07-25 8:13 AM For a 4-H project horse, sure. There are several that seem to be nice all-around horses. If I wanted something to rodeo on or a 1d horse, then no. If you don't want to get outrun at a rodeo or jackpot by an appy (or think they are not 1D/rodeo potential) then don't come to N.E. Oklahoma.. at any given moment you just might get your tail handed to you by a lady and her appy! I'm not saying that one can't run barrels and be tough, because they certainly can....
How many Apps have you seen in the barrels at NFR? How many have won the BFA?
I'm just gonna go with the odds and probably stick to a QH bred to run barrels. It's simple economics.....how many appys are born each year vs quarter horses? Then how many of those few born make it into the hands of futurity trainers or barrel horse people....very few. I would say that if the numbers were equal on foals born for appys and QH's, and then the numbers were equal as to the number of appys that went to trainers, then statistics would be much different. I'd say less than 5% of the horses going to futurity trainers are appys, maybe more like 1%.
I'd love to have a running bred appy....know where there is one at that i'd still like to have (wink, wink, total performance) and wouldn't bat an eye if the horse was made right....spots or no spots. That being said, if you are buying an appy or a paint for the purpose of training them to sell, I would agree that they bring less than a comparable QH....and I think this is simply due to the fact that no matter how nicely they work, there are still paint/appy haters out there. And......right after I beat MS with my green pony, I'm coming whoop up on you with my super fast spotted mule...prepare for annilation :)
Bring it.....as you can see, Many Spots and I have been out in the desert training in the sand.....Phar Lap style. We ain't skeered of you and your Daddy Long Ears.....
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  Northern Chocolate Queen
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        Location: ND | I'd always consider adding another appi to my barn. Growing up the mare I ran at all the local playdays, jackpots & hs rodeo's was a solid bay appi. She was a 1D mare & took me to nationals in hs rodeo. After she passed away I bought Cash, another solid appi. He's the most amazing animal you could ask for. For the first few years I owned him he was my show horse, doing english & western classes, then we added in the speed events as well. After that we had him trained for team roping & currently he's our #1 mounted shooting horse. With me or my brother on him he's consistently in the 1D at shoots. He'll make smoking fast runs for us & then turn around & go right back in the arena & lope through quiet & slow for my mom who just recently started competing. I do think resale is a little more limited for appi's unless they are winning. I know I could sell mine in a heart beat if I wanted to.....but he's never leaving.
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    Location: Land Of Oz | Appy is my fav. I'd buy a colored well bred appy over a qh! That's my preference though. Most appies are raced and then trail horses or broodmares. Not many go on to be barrel horses. Some do. It's not b/c they can't, just that they don't normally seems like. Like it was already mentioned, you've all probably ran against solid appies and never even known it. Mine has a mottled nose or folks in my area probably wouldn't know it either. :)
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          Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | Herbie - 2014-07-25 10:13 AM LRQHS - 2014-07-25 10:04 AM Herbie - 2014-07-25 9:50 AM MS2011 - 2014-07-25 9:39 AM ACEINTHEHOLE - 2014-07-25 9:23 AM MS2011 - 2014-07-25 8:13 AM For a 4-H project horse, sure. There are several that seem to be nice all-around horses. If I wanted something to rodeo on or a 1d horse, then no. If you don't want to get outrun at a rodeo or jackpot by an appy (or think they are not 1D/rodeo potential) then don't come to N.E. Oklahoma.. at any given moment you just might get your tail handed to you by a lady and her appy! I'm not saying that one can't run barrels and be tough, because they certainly can....
How many Apps have you seen in the barrels at NFR? How many have won the BFA?
I'm just gonna go with the odds and probably stick to a QH bred to run barrels. It's simple economics.....how many appys are born each year vs quarter horses? Then how many of those few born make it into the hands of futurity trainers or barrel horse people....very few. I would say that if the numbers were equal on foals born for appys and QH's, and then the numbers were equal as to the number of appys that went to trainers, then statistics would be much different. I'd say less than 5% of the horses going to futurity trainers are appys, maybe more like 1%.
I'd love to have a running bred appy....know where there is one at that i'd still like to have (wink, wink, total performance) and wouldn't bat an eye if the horse was made right....spots or no spots. That being said, if you are buying an appy or a paint for the purpose of training them to sell, I would agree that they bring less than a comparable QH....and I think this is simply due to the fact that no matter how nicely they work, there are still paint/appy haters out there. And......right after I beat MS with my green pony, I'm coming whoop up on you with my super fast spotted mule...prepare for annilation :) Bring it.....as you can see, Many Spots and I have been out in the desert training in the sand.....Phar Lap style. We ain't skeered of you and your Daddy Long Ears.....
I'm not sure if you are aware of this fact or not, but I have a magical Unicorn horn that was given to me by my Christmas Exchange Buddy........ |
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       Location: Greenville Texas | THAT...is a BEAUTIFUL mule !! Love him! |
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      Location: South of Canada and North of Mexico | I have one and it's hard as heck to sell him.. I've basically given up. He has spots which turns a lot of people away. His sire has a 104si he's mostly tb on his topside goes back to Mr Spotted Bull and is qh on the bottom with Reckless Dash/DFC on his papers. |
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  Whack and Roll
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      Location: NE Texas | That is impressive, LRQHS, but pretty sure it isn't more powerful than the petrified grizzly bear...um...mahhood...that was brought back and given to me from a recent Alaskan bear hunt. The Alaskan Indians say the magical grizzly bear.....manhood......is the most feared weapon in all of Alaska, and everyone knows Alaskans are just dang tough!
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          Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | Herbie - 2014-07-25 10:25 AM That is impressive, LRQHS, but pretty sure it isn't more powerful than the petrified grizzly bear...um...mahhood...that was brought back and given to me from a recent Alaskan bear hunt. The Alaskan Indians say the magical grizzly bear.....manhood......is the most feared weapon in all of Alaska, and everyone knows Alaskans are just dang tough!
Rought ro! |
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| There is a lady that futurities only Apps. They are nice solid and always hit in the average at the small local futurities. I can't think of her name but I wanna say its Carol? She won't have one ready for the juvenile bc she takes her time. Hers always go in there and work and look like so much fun to run...light and easy. |
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| I would POVE to have aloud colored, kick butt App to rodeo on. I started with Apps and have heard all the jokes and bad press there is about them.
If you want to blow your mind, look up Reminic in Spots, a registered QH. Here is a link to his FB page.
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Reminic-In-Spots/165321711265
If you go to their website, they have links to other well known QH with spots that were important to the Appaloosa industry. Also how crop outs still surface, but with today's DNA parentage verification and the white rule being changed, they now gotta register them as QH.
If he would throw that color, I would breed to him to get my QH with color!
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          Location: Kentucky | I sold this Appy last year. I don't think being an Appy hurt him, because people who know certain bloodlines were all over him. Plus he was darn good looking. I won't pass over an Appy, but the ApHC was kind of a pain in the rear to work with in getting him registered.
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/im+leaving+with+hank
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      Location: The edge of no where | Herbie - 2014-07-25 10:03 AM brushycreekfarm - 2014-07-25 9:55 AM I think C.James rode one at the NFR...I cant remember when...but I'm pretty sure it was her or one of the other top hands.
The history of Appaloosa's is very very interesting and if you read closely you'll learn why the breed has had to deal with bad press.
It stemmed from the Indian wars and what happened to the breed thru the U.S. goverment during that time.
I like Appys but I like any sort of good horse no matter the breed...so I'm not trying to start an argument or anything...I'm just saying there is alot more to the story of Appys than is commonly known and I feel bad that they get such a bad P.R.
If you have a AQHA that acts like an ass...it isn't "Oh I Hate Quarter Horses"....but if you have a horse that acts like a jerk and it has appy spots...it's immediately a BAD Appaloosa and how awful the Appaloosa breed is.
Horses are horses...some good some not no matter the breed. Totally agree! And enter wolf whistle here....that's a handsome pony no matter the breed!
I don't hate them at all.... I've actually OWNED a very tough one growing up...and a few POAs. The one I showed growing up I did really well in both children's hunters and jumpers. He was 14.3 hands of attitude. I could show him in the hunter ring and go quietly and win... ride him to the jumper ring, put his boots and different bridle on him and go fast and win that too. Really smart tough athletic little guy.
Ran a very nice one for some people until he sold. He was lots of fun to ride, super honest and broke, just wasn't a speed demon. |
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      Location: The edge of no where | LRQHS - 2014-07-25 10:15 AM Herbie - 2014-07-25 10:13 AM LRQHS - 2014-07-25 10:04 AM Herbie - 2014-07-25 9:50 AM MS2011 - 2014-07-25 9:39 AM ACEINTHEHOLE - 2014-07-25 9:23 AM MS2011 - 2014-07-25 8:13 AM For a 4-H project horse, sure. There are several that seem to be nice all-around horses. If I wanted something to rodeo on or a 1d horse, then no. If you don't want to get outrun at a rodeo or jackpot by an appy (or think they are not 1D/rodeo potential) then don't come to N.E. Oklahoma.. at any given moment you just might get your tail handed to you by a lady and her appy! I'm not saying that one can't run barrels and be tough, because they certainly can....
How many Apps have you seen in the barrels at NFR? How many have won the BFA?
I'm just gonna go with the odds and probably stick to a QH bred to run barrels. It's simple economics.....how many appys are born each year vs quarter horses? Then how many of those few born make it into the hands of futurity trainers or barrel horse people....very few. I would say that if the numbers were equal on foals born for appys and QH's, and then the numbers were equal as to the number of appys that went to trainers, then statistics would be much different. I'd say less than 5% of the horses going to futurity trainers are appys, maybe more like 1%.
I'd love to have a running bred appy....know where there is one at that i'd still like to have (wink, wink, total performance) and wouldn't bat an eye if the horse was made right....spots or no spots. That being said, if you are buying an appy or a paint for the purpose of training them to sell, I would agree that they bring less than a comparable QH....and I think this is simply due to the fact that no matter how nicely they work, there are still paint/appy haters out there. And......right after I beat MS with my green pony, I'm coming whoop up on you with my super fast spotted mule...prepare for annilation :) Bring it.....as you can see, Many Spots and I have been out in the desert training in the sand.....Phar Lap style. We ain't skeered of you and your Daddy Long Ears..... I'm not sure if you are aware of this fact or not, but I have a magical Unicorn horn that was given to me by my Christmas Exchange Buddy........
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        Location: Southwest Minnesota | I prefer horses of color... I think Appy's get a bad rap about their behavior...can't quite figure out where people get the notion that when an Appaloosa behaves badly it must be because of it's heritage and when a QH behaves badly it's probably because of bad training or mishandling. I have an Appaloosa and love him dearly. He is not the fastest horse in my pasture but he is certainly the best temperment and the one I am most likely to put an inexperienced rider on. He can do it all and does it with the happiest disposition. Here is a pic of him from yesterday with the girl I leased him to at our County Fair...She qualified for our State 4-H horse show with him which is a pretty big accomplishment.  |
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| Kay Blandford had an App as her back up horse, and used him, for NFRs. She's trained and run a lot of Apps.
Personally, I wouldn't own an App if you paid me to.
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          Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | SpottedT - 2014-07-25 1:11 PM Kay Blandford had an App as her back up horse, and used him, for NFRs. She's trained and run a lot of Apps. Personally, I wouldn't own an App if you paid me to. Attitude, jug headed, tailless creatures. Don't forget pig eyed.
Now, tell us how you really feel about appaloosa's lol..... |
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      Location: The edge of no where | SpottedT - 2014-07-25 1:16 PM And slow. That's why the Indians rode them, because they could catch them on foot.
and to think I thought it was cuz...."by the time they rode one to war, they were damn sure mad enough to kill someone!"
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     Location: Do I hear Banjos? | SpottedT - 2014-07-25 1:11 PM Kay Blandford had an App as her back up horse, and used him, for NFRs. She's trained and run a lot of Apps. Personally, I wouldn't own an App if you paid me to. Attitude, jug headed, tailless creatures. Don't forget pig eyed.
Yeah ok....so in the pictures does my much loved horse exhibit any of those traits?
As some might say..."The right horse is never the wrong color"
Ah well...your loss...And I hope your AQHA is carrying the LP gene  |
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    Location: 31 lengths farms | Grew up on a POA who was salt of this earth!!! The type of pony that people dream of their kid lucking into. Send him down the creek with 7 neighbor kids at 6 am in the summer and at 7 pm he'd bring them all back with big grins on their faces. My "step up horse " was the homeliest Appy gelding you could imagine, but he went from being in the top 10 in the nation as a endurance horse to being my 4-H WP horse, then decided I wanted to learn to rope, he was forced to run barrels a time or 20, LOL!!! Not a champion at any of them but respectable and safe and I will throw my leg over a spotted pony again before my riding days are thru because of those "ewe necked, goat gutted, spavin boned, broom tailed, hammer headed" gems I had as a kid. |
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          Location: Riding Crackhead. | SpottedT - 2014-07-25 1:11 PM Kay Blandford had an App as her back up horse, and used him, for NFRs. She's trained and run a lot of Apps. Personally, I wouldn't own an App if you paid me to. Attitude, jug headed, tailless creatures. Don't forget pig eyed.
Rockinas wiped all our butts a couple years ago on an App. Not only a nice looking horse but damn fast. |
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| I'm so happy to hear postives!! This filly I purchased will never be a famous unbeatable horse. We are not looking for that. We where just looking for a all around project that will be a all around horse and hopefully love the cans. And she was definatly the price range that would be good for a prohect horse. She has a very sweet attitude and picks up so quickly! First day at 4mths old we had her walking over tarps and trotting in hand! I think she going to be a very rewarding undertaking for my 14 year old!
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  Location: Central Florida | TrailGirl - 2014-07-25 1:48 PM
SpottedT - 2014-07-25 1:11 PM Kay Blandford had an App as her back up horse, and used him, for NFRs. She's trained and run a lot of Apps. Personally, I wouldn't own an App if you paid me to. Attitude, jug headed, tailless creatures. Don't forget pig eyed.
Yeah ok....so in the pictures does my much loved horse exhibit any of those traits?
As some might say..."The right horse is never the wrong color"
Ah well...your loss...And I hope your AQHA is carrying the LP gene 
Now this is funny coming from the person with a pasture full of Appys :) Give em a bad rap so you can keep them all to yourself |
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      Location: NE Texas | SpottedT - 2014-07-25 2:15 PM ;)
I love a story with a good twist! I have to admit I suspected by your name that you may be an APPY LOVER!!!   |
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          Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | Herbie - 2014-07-25 2:31 PM SpottedT - 2014-07-25 2:15 PM ;) I love a story with a good twist! I have to admit I suspected by your name that you may be an APPY LOVER!!!  
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           Location: Florida.. | SpottedT - 2014-07-25 2:11 PM Kay Blandford had an App as her back up horse, and used him, for NFRs. She's trained and run a lot of Apps. Personally, I wouldn't own an App if you paid me to. Attitude, jug headed, tailless creatures. Don't forget pig eyed.
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | SpottedT - 2014-07-25 2:15 PM ;)
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          Location: Riding Crackhead. | SpottedT - 2014-07-25 2:15 PM ;)
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| SpottedT - 2014-07-25 2:11 PM Kay Blandford had an App as her back up horse, and used him, for NFRs. She's trained and run a lot of Apps. Personally, I wouldn't own an App if you paid me to. Attitude, jug headed, tailless creatures. Don't forget pig eyed.
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    Location: Midwest | CYA Ranch - 2014-07-25 1:57 PM SpottedT - 2014-07-25 1:11 PM Kay Blandford had an App as her back up horse, and used him, for NFRs. She's trained and run a lot of Apps. Personally, I wouldn't own an App if you paid me to. Attitude, jug headed, tailless creatures. Don't forget pig eyed. Rockinas wiped all our butts a couple years ago on an App. Not only a nice looking horse but damn fast.
I think you mean "whipped"
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| Just Plain Lucky - 2014-07-25 2:51 PM
SpottedT - 2014-07-25 2:11 PM Kay Blandford had an App as her back up horse, and used him, for NFRs. She's trained and run a lot of Apps. Personally, I wouldn't own an App if you paid me to. Attitude, jug headed, tailless creatures. Don't forget pig eyed.
I can't tell if you're joking or serious....
I wish my real life dead pan face was as good as my online one. :) |
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    Location: Midwest | Just Plain Lucky - 2014-07-25 2:51 PM SpottedT - 2014-07-25 2:11 PM Kay Blandford had an App as her back up horse, and used him, for NFRs. She's trained and run a lot of Apps. Personally, I wouldn't own an App if you paid me to. Attitude, jug headed, tailless creatures. Don't forget pig eyed. I can't tell if you're joking or serious....
See pic above ;) |
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She owned Troubled Memories right?
I would breed to him in a heart beat, were I breeding. Trying to convince any of my friends to breed one of my mares to him. I have 2 granddaughters of Lady Bugs Moon that should have his baby. |
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| sorrel horse ranch - 2014-07-25 8:41 AM I absolutely would not over look an Appy. I had one that was an awesome horse. Ask Rockinas about her good luck she has had with Appys.
As you know, we love the one we are riding for SG. He is not spotted though. I will say this as a word of caution. I have found that a lot of appys carry the PSSM gene. Probably not so much the running as the working lines, but I'd sure get a test done BEFORE I purchased one. |
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    Location: Midwest | SpottedT - 2014-07-25 3:07 PM She owned Troubled Memories right? I would breed to him in a heart beat, were I breeding. Trying to convince any of my friends to breed one of my mares to him. I have 2 granddaughters of Lady Bugs Moon that should have his baby.
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    Location: Smack Dab in the Middle | barrelracr131 - 2014-07-25 3:09 PM
SpottedT - 2014-07-25 3:07 PM She owned Troubled Memories right? I would breed to him in a heart beat, were I breeding. Trying to convince any of my friends to breed one of my mares to him. I have 2 granddaughters of Lady Bugs Moon that should have his baby.
Yes, she still has him
No, she sold him. I inquired about him and she sent me the info on who has him now, but I'd have to go back through my emails. I want to say he went to MN? |
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     Location: Way up North | RockinGR - 2014-07-25 3:10 PM barrelracr131 - 2014-07-25 3:09 PM SpottedT - 2014-07-25 3:07 PM She owned Troubled Memories right? I would breed to him in a heart beat, were I breeding. Trying to convince any of my friends to breed one of my mares to him. I have 2 granddaughters of Lady Bugs Moon that should have his baby. Yes, she still has him No, she sold him. I inquired about him and she sent me the info on who has him now, but I'd have to go back through my emails. I want to say he went to MN?
Yes, he was sold to a family in MN and unfortunately passed. I think they got a couple mares settled to him before it happened but I am not sure how many. |
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      Location: South of Canada and North of Mexico | AllAroundRider - 2014-07-25 3:12 PM
RockinGR - 2014-07-25 3:10 PM barrelracr131 - 2014-07-25 3:09 PM SpottedT - 2014-07-25 3:07 PM She owned Troubled Memories right? I would breed to him in a heart beat, were I breeding. Trying to convince any of my friends to breed one of my mares to him. I have 2 granddaughters of Lady Bugs Moon that should have his baby. Yes, she still has him No, she sold him. I inquired about him and she sent me the info on who has him now, but I'd have to go back through my emails. I want to say he went to MN?
Yes, he was sold to a family in MN and unfortunately passed. I think they got a couple mares settled to him before it happened but I am not sure how many.
Yes he was sold to Hannah Koch in Minnesota but Troubled Memories died a month or so ago. :-( |
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| My daughter's pole horse is an App.. He's tough as nails, never takes a lame step..Pretty don't ride is the motto she adopted when we bought him lol.. He has the longest fullest tail in the barn (which has wrapped around and drug down a pole before- I threatened to chop it off and complete his Appy-ness)
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    Location: Midwest | watchpeppydoc - 2014-07-25 3:37 PM AllAroundRider - 2014-07-25 3:12 PM RockinGR - 2014-07-25 3:10 PM barrelracr131 - 2014-07-25 3:09 PM SpottedT - 2014-07-25 3:07 PM She owned Troubled Memories right? I would breed to him in a heart beat, were I breeding. Trying to convince any of my friends to breed one of my mares to him. I have 2 granddaughters of Lady Bugs Moon that should have his baby. Yes, she still has him No, she sold him. I inquired about him and she sent me the info on who has him now, but I'd have to go back through my emails. I want to say he went to MN? Yes, he was sold to a family in MN and unfortunately passed. I think they got a couple mares settled to him before it happened but I am not sure how many. Yes he was sold to Hannah Koch in Minnesota but Troubled Memories died a month or so ago. :- (
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     Location: Wonderful Wyoming | watchpeppydoc - 2014-07-25 2:37 PM AllAroundRider - 2014-07-25 3:12 PM RockinGR - 2014-07-25 3:10 PM barrelracr131 - 2014-07-25 3:09 PM SpottedT - 2014-07-25 3:07 PM She owned Troubled Memories right? I would breed to him in a heart beat, were I breeding. Trying to convince any of my friends to breed one of my mares to him. I have 2 granddaughters of Lady Bugs Moon that should have his baby. Yes, she still has him No, she sold him. I inquired about him and she sent me the info on who has him now, but I'd have to go back through my emails. I want to say he went to MN? Yes, he was sold to a family in MN and unfortunately passed. I think they got a couple mares settled to him before it happened but I am not sure how many. Yes he was sold to Hannah Koch in Minnesota but Troubled Memories died a month or so ago. :- (
Poor girl. I don't think any of them settled. If I understood her posts correctly, they tried frozen semen.
It is true about the PSSM. Mostly through the Dreamfinder lines and there are a lot of them. Not sure on any others. This is just what I have picked up on the PSSM forum on facebook. |
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      Location: Slipping down the slope of old age. Boo hoo. | http://www.appaloosa.com/
Check out the photo on the web site.... the cover photo for the most recent Appaloosa Journal.
A black / white App put me through college on a rodeo scholarship.... leading my women's team to two NIRA regional team championships. Then the third (and last year) I college rodeoed at a college that had NO rodeo team, he and I ended up third in the women's team standings for the year all by ourselves. I would never pass up a good horse -- and some chrome just adds to the fun in my opinion. The folks that show Apps are some of the most wonderful people you could ever meet. Very nice people. I've showed AQHA and App.... and keep going back to the App shows because of the wonderful people and my lovely App mare. |
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       Location: Texas | What a pretty app one the website. I grew up riding a crazy little app that could kill a pole pattern. He was the nervous type and I was 14 and probably added to the craziness with the repeated pattern work. In all fairness, we did not know any better at the time. And he was pretty.
The Reminic in Spots horse mentioned, all of the babies appear to be solids. Does anyone know if he has thrown any spotted babies? |
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          Location: Riding Crackhead. | RockinGR - 2014-07-25 3:10 PM barrelracr131 - 2014-07-25 3:09 PM SpottedT - 2014-07-25 3:07 PM She owned Troubled Memories right? I would breed to him in a heart beat, were I breeding. Trying to convince any of my friends to breed one of my mares to him. I have 2 granddaughters of Lady Bugs Moon that should have his baby. Yes, she still has him No, she sold him. I inquired about him and she sent me the info on who has him now, but I'd have to go back through my emails. I want to say he went to MN?
She sold him and I'm pretty sure he recently died.
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  Location: Texas | I just bought an Oklahoma accredited bred Appy mare. Own daughter of Dash for Perks out of a nice producing mare. My mare earned money on the track herself. Trying to find previous foals to see if she herself has produced anything. |
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    Location: SoCal | We have some really nice Appaloosas that run in our area, a lot of solid, but also a lot of color. The people who own them breed for the speed, but a lot of their horses are 1D/2D and quick pole horses too! My family had Apps many years ago, so it would be neat to get one.
I've researched the bloodlines a little for Quarter Horses as far as unusually marked AQHA foals go, and there are documented AQHA horses that have the genes for Appaloosa markings and express the characteristics, whose bloodlines snuck in as "roans" from what I've been able to find. |
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    Location: Washington. (The DRY side.) | I've had 3 Appies and would have another in a heartbeat. But ONLY if it was COLORED! I have NO desire to have a solid one. If it is going to be solid and live here, it will be AQHA. |
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    Location: Kaufman, Texas | I'm sad Troubled Memories died! That's my horses dad. My App is roany colored sorrel. Didn't know he was an App till I saw his papers. Love his personality and try. So sweet. Nothing scares him and he handles any ground great. I've always loved Apps. One around here when I was a kid, beat everyone |
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     Location: Paradise , tx | Love Apps, had one years ago, and have always regreted selling him. I'm not that big on paints, but I have a paint mare now. Bought her because of her personality, which at my age, is always the number one criteria when looking at a horse. But I love her, she fits me. |
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    Location: Eastern OH but my heart is in WV | I have not read all the responds but I honestly don't understand why any one would discard a horse just because it is an Appaloosa. The BEST horse, I EVER put a leg over was an Appy. 200% heart and try. He was never the fastest but he had so much grit and try that he never stopped giving his all in every single time. I still to this day compare every horse I ride to that one special horse. He was UGLY in the conformation/ looks department but I didn't care, he was beautiful in my eyes. My brother rode a good Appy too.
However, in the same aspect the hottest, most unleveled horse I have ever been around has been an Appy. He was one pretty horse but I give his rider so much credit. I would not judge the whole breed by that one horse.
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  Location: Centerville, TN | One of the best horses I ever owned was a App. He kept me on the road when my quarter horses wouldn't. There is nothing wrong with a App. That is him I'm on in my picture to the left. That run was made at 2:00 in the morning to put us in the USBA Finals in Mississippi. He is retired at 20 years old and would still be running today if it weren't for arthritis. He is one of the loves of my life. Good luck with yours and many long years of happy memories. |
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         Location: North Dakota | I don't have any bias against appy's. I've only ridden one so I can't really speak for the breed being stubborn as some believe...he was a little sh!t though...but I think they're BEAUTIFUL. I'd absolutely look at an appy. Paints too. Everything with white. The more white the better! |
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     Location: Somewhere between S@% stirrer and Saint | I bred appaloosa for 25 years. I started with a base that was race bred very well and built upon that. I have earned bronze medallions in racing as a race winner and breeder. My horses were J and B, J&B, and JNBS horses.
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | I am so sad to hear that Troubled Memories died, he was on my bucket list to breed my mare too one day. |
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                    Location: In the Hills of Texas | I would buy a Unicorn if it fit the bill...Nevermind...I would buy any Unicorn. LOL
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