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Calmers and AQHA drug rules
barrelracr131
Reg. Aug 2011
Posted 2014-07-31 9:08 AM
Subject: Calmers and AQHA drug rules


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 I am considering giving my horse a calmer when he is stalled during a big show as he sometimes gets nervous away from home overnight-

Are calmers like this going to test positive under AQHA rules?

http://www.horse.com/item/animed-vita-calm/BWA59/
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TwistedK
Reg. May 2006
Posted 2014-07-31 9:10 AM
Subject: RE: Calmers and AQHA drug rules



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Look into Mushroom Matrix ECP... the olympic horses use it. I know the owner of the company. I've got my stud on it and love it.
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barrelracr131
Reg. Aug 2011
Posted 2014-07-31 9:12 AM
Subject: RE: Calmers and AQHA drug rules


Hungarian Midget Woman


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TwistedK - 2014-07-31 9:10 AM Look into Mushroom Matrix ECP... the olympic horses use it. I know the owner of the company. I've got my stud on it and love it.
Thanks, I will keep that in mind, but I already bought this stuff lol

He's not bad, so if it's illegal I will just not use it. 


Edited by barrelracr131 2014-07-31 9:13 AM
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TwistedK
Reg. May 2006
Posted 2014-07-31 9:13 AM
Subject: RE: Calmers and AQHA drug rules



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I understand... I'd call the 1800 number on the stuff you bought to see about regulations for testing.
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barrelracr131
Reg. Aug 2011
Posted 2014-07-31 9:16 AM
Subject: RE: Calmers and AQHA drug rules


Hungarian Midget Woman


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TwistedK - 2014-07-31 9:13 AM I understand... I'd call the 1800 number on the stuff you bought to see about regulations for testing.

I did send an email... the show is a while away, so I have time. If I don't hear back, I will call. :) I was just curious if anyone here knew offhand. 
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barrelracr131
Reg. Aug 2011
Posted 2014-07-31 9:20 AM
Subject: RE: Calmers and AQHA drug rules


Hungarian Midget Woman


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Location: Midwest
BTW, here are the ingredients

AniMed™ Vita Calm with Live Yeast Cultures
 
Nutritional blend that includes a supplemental source of natural calming ingredients for anxious, restless or high strung horses
·         Contains 1000mg l-Tryptophan, 500mg Thiamine, 20mg Calcium, and 2.5mg Magnesium
·         Also includes Yea-Sacc® 1026 which provides a source of live, naturally occurring beneficial micro-organisms to help promote the best possible digestion, help stabilize cecal and colon pH and encourages healthy digestion and gut stability
·         Available in 2 pound and 5 pound containers each packaged with scoop for easy feeding
 
Directions:
Feed daily with feed ration 2 tbsp per 1000 lb body weight.
Feed 2 to 4 tbsp 3 to 4 hours prior to event.
 
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wyoming barrel racer
Reg. Apr 2006
Posted 2014-07-31 9:23 AM
Subject: RE: Calmers and AQHA drug rules


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THE has calming cookies that don't test. Ask for the legal formula. I have samples of the regular ones if you want to just try some to see how they work for you, and then when you order, just ask for legal formula. 
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barrelracr131
Reg. Aug 2011
Posted 2014-07-31 9:35 AM
Subject: RE: Calmers and AQHA drug rules


Hungarian Midget Woman


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wyoming barrel racer - 2014-07-31 9:23 AM THE has calming cookies that don't test. Ask for the legal formula. I have samples of the regular ones if you want to just try some to see how they work for you, and then when you order, just ask for legal formula. 

Thanks! I will keep that in mind. I have heard good things about the cookies.

He's really not that bad, but he will be stalled for an extended period and I am trying to keep him as chill as possible (within the rules and naturally).  
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wyoming barrel racer
Reg. Apr 2006
Posted 2014-07-31 9:37 AM
Subject: RE: Calmers and AQHA drug rules


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barrelracr131 - 2014-07-31 8:35 AM
wyoming barrel racer - 2014-07-31 9:23 AM THE has calming cookies that don't test. Ask for the legal formula. I have samples of the regular ones if you want to just try some to see how they work for you, and then when you order, just ask for legal formula. 
Thanks! I will keep that in mind. I have heard good things about the cookies.



He's really not that bad, but he will be stalled for an extended period and I am trying to keep him as chill as possible (within the rules and naturally).  

they also have Calming Powder now for the ones that won't eat cookies.  
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barrelracr131
Reg. Aug 2011
Posted 2014-07-31 1:56 PM
Subject: RE: Calmers and AQHA drug rules


Hungarian Midget Woman


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Location: Midwest
 Update regarding product in the OP: Spoke with USEF, they were very helpful. They said while within the letter of the law, using products with L-tryptophan for calming during competition violates the spirit of the rule. 

Also- do NOT use Quietex or anything with valerian root. This will result in a positive test.

They suggest withdrawing this product such as this for 7 days prior to competition due to erring on the side of caution, as she was not sure what the proprietary "Yea-Sacc" ingredient contained. 

I am specifically asking because I will most likely be running in the IBRA Nationals show, and they follow AQHA guidlines.

Thanks all!
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total performance
Reg. Nov 2007
Posted 2014-07-31 2:14 PM
Subject: RE: Calmers and AQHA drug rules



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Finish Line makes a calmer that doesn't have Trytophan (sp) in it.  Sent you a PM 
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barrelracr131
Reg. Aug 2011
Posted 2014-07-31 2:25 PM
Subject: RE: Calmers and AQHA drug rules


Hungarian Midget Woman


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Location: Midwest
Got it, thanks! :
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