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How to stop him from rubbing out his tail?
r_beau
Reg. Apr 2010
Posted 2014-08-12 1:53 PM
Subject: How to stop him from rubbing out his tail?



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I've got a 3-year-old colt. And he rubs his tail. 

He doesn't *need* to have a luxurious tail, as I don't show at a big level or anything like that, but it sure would look a lot nicer if he did! It's not to the point of being bald or anything, but tt's so scraggly-looking because he's got the sides and top hair all broken off short.

What can I do to get him to stop?

Ideally, I would make all of the fencing electric so he couldn't touch it ..... but I board so that is not a possibility to alter the fencing. He is dewormed per my vet's recommendations. He is out on pasture 24/7 (so I wouldn't think it is out of boredom) and it's about 10 acres or so.

Last year the ticks were REALLY bad. I was literally picking 30+ ticks out of his tail every single day. This year we've had pretty much zero ticks. So I don't know if his brain still thinks his tail is itchy, even though there's been no ticks this year???

Every so often, I'll rub Gold Bond medicated anti-itch lotion under his tail dock and he just looooooooves it when I rub on the side of the tail dock, right where the hairline starts to come in (if that makes sense). I've looked closely at his skin in the tail and while it might look a little dry around the hair (underside looks fine) it really looks normal for the most part, when I compare it to my other horse who doesn't rub.

I've heard of trying listerine on the tail but I have not tried that yet. Thought I'd check here first for other suggestions. 




 

Edited by r_beau 2014-08-12 1:55 PM
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Whiteboy
Reg. Jul 2012
Posted 2014-08-12 2:11 PM
Subject: RE: How to stop him from rubbing out his tail?


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Worm him. 
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SC Wrangler
Reg. Jul 2004
Posted 2014-08-12 2:24 PM
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Generally there is a reason for rubbing the tail.  Worms, ticks, lice, allergies, dry skin etc.  Eliminating the cause should do wonders for the tail!! 
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LMS
Reg. Feb 2008
Posted 2014-08-12 2:36 PM
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I agree with the deworming, younger horses seem more susceptible.  My 2 year old was crazy less than a month ago rubbing his tail/butt on everything he could get close to.  I hit him with safegaurd and no more tail rubbing.  Of course I checked for ticks (we did have ticks earlier so there was some scabs) washed him up and nothing helped like the dewormer. 
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HannahRodeoCowgirl
Reg. Apr 2014
Posted 2014-08-12 2:53 PM
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I'm having the same issue with both my horses and can not figure it out. My mare has always done it to an extent, but is just worse currently, but my gelding has never ever rubbed his tail and he is suuuuper itchy. Neither have worms, they are wormed regularly and had an egg count done which was 0. I took them to the vet and he said because its so hot and dry here that it's probably just dry skin. He suggested Eqyss products which are supposed to moisturize. Tried it, didn't work. He also suggested cortisone cream which also didn't work. I got some stuff at the feed store that was also supposed to moisturize and anti-itch. It is a yellow cream. Didn't work. My horses ARE in an electric fenced pen! The only part that isn't hot is the gate...they are too sneaky. I'm at a loss because my gelding hasn't done this before. Any input given would be very helpful.
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want2chase3
Reg. May 2009
Posted 2014-08-12 3:19 PM
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One of my geldings tends to rub his tail when he needs his sheath cleaned.
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GoMistyGo
Reg. Feb 2004
Posted 2014-08-12 3:22 PM
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I agree on the worming.  Mares can also get itchy when they need their teats cleaned.  The build-up between them is amazing even over a very short period. 
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lexyy12
Reg. Apr 2010
Posted 2014-08-12 3:31 PM
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After making sure he doesn't have worms, clean his sheath and his "bottom" then I would put a mixture in a spray bottle. Half baby oil and half listerine mouth wash. Cleared my guy up in a couple weeks.
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WYOTurn-n-Burn
Reg. Sep 2004
Posted 2014-08-12 3:32 PM
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want2chase3 - 2014-08-12 3:19 PM

One of my geldings tends to rub his tail when he needs his sheath cleaned.

Ditto. Mine will rub like crazy if their sheath is dirty.
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komet.
Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2014-08-12 3:57 PM
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Yup... check for pinworms and clean the sheath..
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HannahRodeoCowgirl
Reg. Apr 2014
Posted 2014-08-12 5:25 PM
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I knew he for sure needed his sheath cleaned, didn't know that was what was causing it though...thanks!!
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RocketPilot
Reg. Jun 2006
Posted 2014-08-12 5:29 PM
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My granddaughter's mare scratches the top of her tail out almost every year.  She was tested before we got her and they said she was allergic to cedar trees.  Well just try to get away from them where we live.  I put M.T.G. on her and it seems to help. 
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wahooroany
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2014-08-12 6:33 PM
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Mine do it when they get ticks on the end of their tails.
 
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r_beau
Reg. Apr 2010
Posted 2014-08-12 6:53 PM
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As I already stated in my original post, he does not have worms. That has already been checked. 

Sheath was cleaned in March. Based on the small amount of build up he had, my vet said once a year is fine for him. (He does very frequently let it "all hang out" so that's probably why he stays pretty clean.) Nonetheless, he has consistently rubbed his tail all year even right after his sheath was cleaned, so I don't suspect that can be the cause.

So sheath cleaning and deworming aside ....

I dig through his tail regularly. There are no ticks (or any other bug eating his tail). We had a cold spring and I think that's why they are so mild this year. I think I've only found 3 ticks total this year, and they were crawling up a leg after a ride; not bitten in.

Allergies are a possiblity. I'm not sure if I would see signs of it on other parts of his body??? He's never had hives or bumps or anything of the sort anywhere.

I can certainly try the baby oil / listerine combination and see.

I've thought about MTG, but does that actually seem to help with itch?


 
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threeponies
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2014-08-12 7:47 PM
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mtg seems to helps some with mine 
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Dr. J
Reg. Aug 2010
Posted 2014-08-12 10:13 PM
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MTG, it finally got mine to stop doing that. He initially did have some ticks so I thought that was it. But then he kept rubbing. I treated for pinworms with no improvement. My friend suggested MTG and it has stopped it.  
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Griz
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2014-08-13 5:37 AM
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I've diluted Lyserine and sprayed it on their tails before which has helped. I've had trouble with MTG burning my horses so I don't use it anymore.  
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ajs2002
Reg. Apr 2006
Posted 2014-08-13 8:08 AM
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Word of caution on the Lysterine usage. I used this on my horse last year that has a blackish tail and a few weeks later he had a blackish tail with some outstanding blonde highlights. If this is a show horse you might want to wait until after the season has ended to give that a try as a last resort.
 
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lexyy12
Reg. Apr 2010
Posted 2014-08-13 9:23 AM
Subject: RE: How to stop him from rubbing out his tail?



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ajs2002 - 2014-08-13 9:08 AM

Word of caution on the Lysterine usage. I used this on my horse last year that has a blackish tail and a few weeks later he had a blackish tail with some outstanding blonde highlights. If this is a show horse you might want to wait until after the season has ended to give that a try as a last resort.
 

Forgot to mention that!! I would definitely give the listerine and baby oil a shot. It will kill any type of fungus on his tail. My guy has a long, thick beautiful tail and he rubbed his butt and too of his tail raw and finally we tried that and he stopped itching and his tail grew back.
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BayRose
Reg. Apr 2007
Posted 2014-08-13 10:22 AM
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I have a foal that is doing this. He has been wormed and checked over by the vet but the top of his tail looks like a billo pad. Id love some advice on what to use for a foal...
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