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Location: Texas | What do you put on a wound to keep the flies off?
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No Tune in a Bucket
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Location: Texas | Thanks. I tried to attach pic from my phone but could not. (sigh) Really big L shaped flap on upper neck. Probably 8" x 8". |
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Location: NM...the Land of Manana | Garlic powder. |
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Location: Okla | Underwoods and baking soda.
I'm going through same thing now, but with a shoulder. 2 weeks and the wound is completely closed and new skin forming. |
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Location: Cap'n Joan Rotgut.....alberta | tripleE - 2014-08-14 12:08 PM Underwoods and baking soda.
I'm going through same thing now, but with a shoulder. 2 weeks and the wound is completely closed and new skin forming.
baking powder :)..............and i agree with underwoods, i have had great success with it.............
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Location: Okla | oops tyring to post and work at the same time. Yes baking powder, was thinkng powder and typed soda. |
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Location: Buffalo, Wyoming | ACV and black pepper. |
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Location: Sunny So Cal | The ZonOx has worked really well for me. $30 and it worked fast and it seemed to keep the flies away. |
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Location: At the race track with Ah Dee Ohs | mruggles - 2014-08-13 1:14 PM tripleE - 2014-08-14 12:08 PM Underwoods and baking soda.
I'm going through same thing now, but with a shoulder. 2 weeks and the wound is completely closed and new skin forming. baking powder :)..............and i agree with underwoods, i have had great success with it.............
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| What does the baking powder do? |
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Location: newalla,Ok. | Equaide is wonderful!!! I recently had a gelding kick our cable fence and ended up with his back legs woven through it. I t cut and burnt the hide off from the top of his legs to his ankles. It has been quite an ordeal to heal as he took off all the hide in his hock joint. I tried Underwoods and he got proudflesh so I started researching and thought I would try the Equaide. My friends that seen his legs before and now can't believe the difference. Equaide is an antibacterial, antiimflamtory and the flys stay away. I would give it a try... plus I called and talked with the people that make it and he told me that if i keep using it all of his hair should come back with no white hair and very little scaring.
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| Sandok - 2014-08-13 4:09 PM
What does the baking powder do?
keeps the proud flesh to a minimum.
OP - I can not say enough positive things about using Underwoods. I will throw my vote in there to use it too!! |
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No Tune in a Bucket
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Location: Texas | I tried (unsuccessfully) to email a pic to Total Performance to post for me. No luck, but thanks TP. I washed it off twice today and spraying with Vetericyn. It was oozie. Should I keep washing it? I don't think the Vetericyn will help with the flies. |
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Location: In Husker Land | We dealt with this all last summer. But was on the hip of my one mare. We used a fly sheet all summer..is this where a neck fly sheet would work? Lots and lots of hydro therapy and we used horsemans aloe cream and blu cote spray. Was a long long summer..let me see if I can attach some pictures of what it looked like..
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No Tune in a Bucket
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Location: Texas | That is ugly looking. My husband doesn't want to keep washing it because he thinks it will keep it from scabbing up. |
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Location: Texas | Another vote for Underwoods and baking powder.
That wound will heal with a tiny scar if you use it. I had a wild filly jump a t-post fence and rip herself open all down her side to her belly and back up. I used Underwoods and baking powder and she ended up with about a two inch scar.
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Namesless in BHW
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Location: At the race track with Ah Dee Ohs | Here is the pic of the wound. Well maybe not. My system won't let me post it for some reason. I will keep trying.
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Namesless in BHW
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Location: At the race track with Ah Dee Ohs | total performance - 2014-08-14 9:11 AM Here is the pic of the wound. Well maybe not. My system won't let me post it for some reason. I will keep trying.
Second time around!
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Location: Memphis, TN | RocketPilot - 2014-08-13 9:43 PM
That is ugly looking. My husband doesn't want to keep washing it because he thinks it will keep it from scabbing up.
Hydrotherapy works wonders. I would be cold hosing at least once a day twice if you can. Here is my geldings leg from several years ago. He tore a chunk out while we were on our honeymoon. I cold hosed it morning and night. I applied corona around the outside and where it would drain to keep it from scalding his skin and to keep the edges from drying out. I then covered the open area with tri care. I had to let it melt a little with his body heat and then I could spread it across the whole area. I'm a big believer in NOT letting it scab over if it is deep as horses heal from the inside out. There is no scar at all and I had to look back at these pics to even remember what leg it was because there is no way to tell now.
http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/prod_display.cfm?pcatid=16438
About 2 weeks later if memory serves me right
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Location: In Husker Land | barrelracin85 - 2014-08-14 9:59 AM
RocketPilot - 2014-08-13 9:43 PM
That is ugly looking. My husband doesn't want to keep washing it because he thinks it will keep it from scabbing up.
Hydrotherapy works wonders. I would be cold hosing at least once a day twice if you can. Here is my geldings leg from several years ago. He tore a chunk out while we were on our honeymoon. I cold hosed it morning and night. I applied corona around the outside and where it would drain to keep it from scalding his skin and to keep the edges from drying out. I then covered the open area with tri care. I had to let it melt a little with his body heat and then I could spread it across the whole area. I'm a big believer in NOT letting it scab over if it is deep as horses heal from the inside out. There is no scar at all and I had to look back at these pics to even remember what leg it was because there is no way to tell now.
http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/prod_display.cfm?pcatid=16438
About 2 weeks later if memory serves me right
Cold hosing is the best.. that is what we did with my mare in the pics above too. Hydro therapy works wonders. We did her morning and night, for 20 minutes a shot. The put the horsemans aloe cream and blue cote, along with some Vaseline for the drainage below. |
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Location: Sperry, OK | total performance - 2014-08-14 9:31 AM total performance - 2014-08-14 9:11 AM Here is the pic of the wound. Well maybe not. My system won't let me post it for some reason. I will keep trying. Second time around!
Since this isn't an open wound.. just keep that covered in Swat ointment and move on. All the other suggestions for Underwoods and such will only work for an open wound. |
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No Tune in a Bucket
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Location: Texas | total performance - 2014-08-14 9:31 AM total performance - 2014-08-14 9:11 AM Here is the pic of the wound. Well maybe not. My system won't let me post it for some reason. I will keep trying. Second time around!
Thank you, Total Performance. Yes that is the yucky mess. The vet left the bottom part open for it to drain and boy is it ever. We are hydrating twice a day. It is on the upper part of his neck. I can tell he is feeling better today because he resisted a little today, but not much. Does anyone have an opinion of how long he will be out with this type of injury? Region rodeos start in about a month and he is the only thing granddaughter really has to ride. |
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Location: The best kept secret in TX | I wouldn't rush recovery... That'd be nasty to open up again at a race. However I bet it will be almost healed by then. Cold hosing helps a ton tho... especially with draining out all the junk that gets in there every day... JMO
Good luck so sorry to hear this is the only mount for your grandaughter. |
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Location: Where the pavement ends and the West begins Utah | Lime that you use in stalls. wash it then throw handsful on it. Better yet mix alcohol and vinegar with epsom salt together use it to wash the wound. Then use egg whites just so it's just mixed then cover the entire wound it will heal it right up.
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Location: Texas | My colt got a small wound on his face & I tried everything to keep the flies off. The Swat even melted off in our heat & humidity. Then sprayed AluShield on it & the flies have not bothered it since. Definitely ask the vet's opinion, but I was so surprised at how well that stuff covers & stays on. No flies. |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Of all the things mentioned here, none is more important than aggressive "debridement", meaning using a variety of techniques to clean off all dead tissue, debris, and the bulk of the bacteria. You can use a number of adjuncts, but nothing takes the place of good old elbow grease and plenty of soap and water. If you want to spend an extra few bucks on your favorite powder or salve, then that's fine.....only don't let that replace regular hosing and soap and water. The more often, the better. You want to get rid of dead tissue, serum, blood, and pus. "Hydrotherapy", if that's what you want to call it, is the best and cheapest treatment. If the wound is in a location where it can be packed or dressed and that packing or dressing stays in place, the best thing to do, initially, is to moisten gauze and loosely apply it in contact with the wound surface.....IF you can change that dressing more than once a day. When that moisture on the gauze dries, all the bad stuff sticks to it and comes off when you remove and replace that gauze. That's another form of debridement. if you are on a tight budget, you really don't need anything more than a good garden hose, some bacteriocidal soap, and a soft bristle brush. Apply soap and water, brush that sucker till it bleeds, then hose it out copiously. Keep doing that. |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Also, if you decide to try closing a contaminated older wound, you are taking a gamble. More often than not they just pus out and fall apart, and you are back to square one. |
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No Tune in a Bucket
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Location: Texas | trying to update with new pic. I have been hydrating and putting Vetericyn on twice a day. The vet cut off skin that was dead last week leaving a big old open wound. I am wondering if I should now start using Underwoods.
Well, heck, I cannot get new pic to post.
Thank you, Total Performance
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Location: At the race track with Ah Dee Ohs | Here ya go!
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Location: North Dakota | I think this is looking great, now is the time to utilize Hotbears advice and.... cover with triple antibiotic ointment (I like furacin but many on here will gasp at that) to keep the flies away. |
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| that looks really good - surprisingly good!!
Time for topicals and keep washing daily - like hotbear said, hydrotherapy and good scrubbing!
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Location: The barn...where else? SW Missouri | cow pie - 2014-08-14 5:29 PM
Lime that you use in stalls. wash it then throw handsful on it. Better yet mix alcohol and vinegar with epsom salt together use it to wash the wound. Then use egg whites just so it's just mixed then cover the entire wound it will heal it right up.
I've healed many an open wound with the powdered lime and lots of cold hosing. Works awesome. Keeps flies off and keeps proud flesh from growing. |
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| Swat for the flies! Aloe Advantage for the wound. video link below is my mare's leg.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdOjwCkmSx0
http://www.aloeadvantage.com/ |
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Location: Memphis, TN | I'm on my phone so I can't really tell but are there sutures still in place running from top to bottom? It is looking really good. I think you'll be surprised at how well it ends up healing over. As big of a wound as it is I would still continue cold hosing it for a while longer. I have been blessed to never need underwoods so no advice there. Whatever you are doing now seems to be doing well. |
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No Tune in a Bucket
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Location: Texas | The vet did sew the left side trying to save the skin on that side. The skin on the flap on the right side was dead. In the mornings, it looks like it is trying to scab over, but of course after hosing it that all comes off. |
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Location: Four Corners Colorado | Check out http://www.stepaheadfarm.com/ for some really neat bandaging ideas. I've been using the Eclipse wound Wash and cream and equiaide on a leg wound with super results. I'll post before and after when I can. I ordered the products off of amazon. |
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| I personally mix TAO (antibiotic ointment) with Hydrocortesone cream. Hydrocortesone keeps flies off and keeps proud flesh away. I have used it on many many cuts and it has never failed me. I currently have it lathered on a horses face from getting in a fight with the side of my trailer. |
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| When we have a show cow get hurt we mix Furacin, Gentamicin and Antibiotics together and put on the injury works great. |
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