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NEED OPINIONS - Never been handled, grass fed, DFC, Streakin Six, Jackie Bee filly
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I have recently come across a yearling filly that would have Dash for Cash, Streakin' Six and Jackie Bee all on her papers, if I decide to get her and register her that is (parents are both registered). Genetically, I think she has the potential to be a great little prospect with those lines, but am concerned about her upbringing. This particular filly has been out in a pasture since she was born. She has only drank her mothers milk and ate native prairie and brome grasses since she was born. She has never been wormed, received any form of veterinary care, or even been handled for that matter. She looks to be pretty well put together, but personally, I don't have much experience with yearlings to compare her to anything. I'm worried about her growth being stunted. I'm afraid of putting the time and money into her, and it turns out she never "grows up" due to her care the first year of her life.

I'm just wondering if anyone has had a similar experience or has any idea as far as how such upbringing might affect one long term in regard to their health and performance. And no, I don't have any photos to post :(. Thanks!

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 I am definitely not the most knowledgable on here but my first reaction is if she has had acess to a wide variety of grasses she is being raised as nature intended and is probably pretty healthy. If she is being kept in a small pasture there might be concerns.
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 I purchased my now 3 year old as a just turned 2 yar old and she was not handled much. She was halter "broke"  for one day and didn't lead. She had also never had shots, feet done, clipped, bathed, tied, or hauled. In short she wasn't much farther along than the filly you are debating on purchasing. With those bloodlines and if the price is right I would take the chance on her. 
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I have no issue bringing home a yearling that's never been handled. I much prefer that over one that someone has spoiled & handled wrong as it's way easier to gentle one that it is to fix problems. It also wouldn't concern me that she's been turned out on pasture her whole life......she should know about & have respect for fences, be able to take care of herself in crummy weather, typically their feet wear nicely if they're in a big pasture & good grazing is a nice healthy diet. I'd rather have one that's been turned out over one that's been in a stall & been fed up hard...... 
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Posted 2014-08-25 9:48 PM
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OT, but regarding the same filly.... What are y'alls thoughts on her particular breeding (Dash For Cash, Streakin Six, Jackie Bee, Gold Fingers, Rare Jet and Cash Leader were the names that stuck out on her parents papers to me)? I quit running barrels to focus on tying goats and roping throughout high school and college rodeo but am wanting to get back into it and hopefully find a young one I could eventually rope and run barrels on. I'm not looking to win the world or anything... Just wanting something I could be competitive on at local jackpots, BBR's, Barrel Bashes, open and amateur rodeos, etc. Never had the kind of money it takes today to go out and buy the great ones, so "making" one is the route I'm focused on. I'm in no hurry but have never really followed what bloodlines were winning, producing what kinds of horses, etc. so I'm definitely curious what others opinions might be regarding her combination of race/cow blood.
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SaraJean - 2014-08-25 8:28 PM I have no issue bringing home a yearling that's never been handled. I much prefer that over one that someone has spoiled & handled wrong as it's way easier to gentle one that it is to fix problems. It also wouldn't concern me that she's been turned out on pasture her whole life......she should know about & have respect for fences, be able to take care of herself in crummy weather, typically their feet wear nicely if they're in a big pasture & good grazing is a nice healthy diet. I'd rather have one that's been turned out over one that's been in a stall & been fed up hard...... 

I agree with this 
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Posted 2014-08-25 10:08 PM
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With those lines I'd pick her up and try her. My favorite mare is a Jackie Bee mare. Although they can be very business like, but I love her. True grit, all they way. Heck if you don't want her I just might.
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Posted 2014-08-25 10:11 PM
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If the price is right, jump on it, shes got some of the best old lines in her. Jackie Bee, Streakin Six. Wowz
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batkitty - 2014-08-25 11:08 PM

With those lines I'd pick her up and try her. My favorite mare is a Jackie Bee mare. Although they can be very business like, but I love her. True grit, all they way. Heck if you don't want her I just might.

What behaviors are you referring to when you say "business like?"
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Reg. Apr 2006
Posted 2014-08-25 10:29 PM
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The first stud we had was one we leased. His name was How D Deal. He was a How D Roman back to a Jackie Bee stud and his babies were born broke. They were almost too dead headed but made very good ranch horses. Very good dispositions. The race lines crossed on that should make yours a bit more lively. 

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Posted 2014-08-25 10:40 PM
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Anyone have much experience with Streakin Six babies? I've only been around one SS gelding (was crossed with Seattle Slew) that I know of, and I never saw him look "healthy." Yes, these folks take good care of their horses so that wasn't an issue... The horse just always looked so fine boned and skinny and acted like a total idiot. At the same time.... My horses tend to be on the heavy side and I like mine to be dead broke, so maybe I wasn't giving him a fair shot ;). I just know I want something with good bones as I'm hoping to rope and run barrels on him/her.
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Let 'er Buck - 2014-08-25 9:40 PM Anyone have much experience with Streakin Six babies? I've only been around one SS gelding (was crossed with Seattle Slew) that I know of, and I never saw him look "healthy." Yes, these folks take good care of their horses so that wasn't an issue... The horse just always looked so fine boned and skinny and acted like a total idiot. At the same time.... My horses tend to be on the heavy side and I like mine to be dead broke, so maybe I wasn't giving him a fair shot ;). I just know I want something with good bones as I'm hoping to rope and run barrels on him/her.

That very well could have been the TB coming out. I had a daughter of Dean Miracle (by Streakin Six) that was a love bug, super easy keeper and just a neat mare. Also have a daughter of Sixarun that is a big bodied, big boned mare. She's a nerd, but loves people and an easy keeper. So far I really like the SS bloodlines. 
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Posted 2014-08-25 10:52 PM
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I bought a yearling filly that wasn't taken from her mom until she was 9 months old (when the people I got her from bought her) and she was never halter broke until I bought her (almost exactly when she turned a year). She grew up fine and was actually pretty easy to train. She didn't get tall but no one in her family is tall, but she was well built. I never fed her anything fancy either...I owned her for 9 years, I just sold her in July :( All I fed her was dry cob w/ Horse Guard multivitamin and grass hay. She spent the last couple of years on a dry lot cause she was always too fat.

her as a three year old:


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Also I'm not going to lie, when I saw the words "grass fed" it made me think of like grass fed beef haha. Thought maybe you wanted to eat her!
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wyoming barrel racer - 2014-08-25 10:47 PM

Let 'er Buck - 2014-08-25 9:40 PM Anyone have much experience with Streakin Six babies? I've only been around one SS gelding (was crossed with Seattle Slew) that I know of, and I never saw him look "healthy." Yes, these folks take good care of their horses so that wasn't an issue... The horse just always looked so fine boned and skinny and acted like a total idiot. At the same time.... My horses tend to be on the heavy side and I like mine to be dead broke, so maybe I wasn't giving him a fair shot ;). I just know I want something with good bones as I'm hoping to rope and run barrels on him/her.

That very well could have been the TB coming out. I had a daughter of Dean Miracle (by Streakin Six) that was a love bug, super easy keeper and just a neat mare. Also have a daughter of Sixarun that is a big bodied, big boned mare. She's a nerd, but loves people and an easy keeper. So far I really like the SS bloodlines. 

Really?? This filly has Sixarun on her papers as well. Well... she will if I register her :) That's good to know/hear! I've never dealt with any TBs, which she has some lineage to, so I'm just trying to get an idea of what to expect before jumping into this. My main concern is her health/upbringing still though.
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livexlovexrodeo - 2014-08-25 10:55 PM

Also I'm not going to lie, when I saw the words "grass fed" it made me think of like grass fed beef haha. Thought maybe you wanted to eat her!

I was afraid people would think that but wasn't sure how to get peoples' attention regarding the issue! Haha whoops!

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livexlovexrodeo - 2014-08-25 10:52 PM

I bought a yearling filly that wasn't taken from her mom until she was 9 months old (when the people I got her from bought her) and she was never halter broke until I bought her (almost exactly when she turned a year). She grew up fine and was actually pretty easy to train. She didn't get tall but no one in her family is tall, but she was well built. I never fed her anything fancy either...I owned her for 9 years, I just sold her in July :( All I fed her was dry cob w/ Horse Guard multivitamin and grass hay. She spent the last couple of years on a dry lot cause she was always too fat.

her as a three year old:



How tall did she end up? She looks pretty short (which you mentioned) in that photo.
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health should be fine as long as she wasn't on dirt pastures. Here are my 2 babies from this year that are out of mares that get nothing but pasture. We only hay if it snows so deep they can't get to it or if we have had a bad drought. They get no grain other than a 1/2 bucket of oats to split between them when we check on them and their water situation. They are now on free choice Redmonds salt and 12:12 mineral. They haven't been vaccinated since we have owned them, some we have had for 15+ yrs. 2 mares haven't had their feet even picked up in 10yrs+. I halter break the babies when we wean in Oct and they are May babies. I am usually rubbing all over their head, neck and sides in 15-20 minutes the first day. It is mostly about disposition.



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livexlovexrodeo - 2014-08-25 10:52 PM

I bought a yearling filly that wasn't taken from her mom until she was 9 months old (when the people I got her from bought her) and she was never halter broke until I bought her (almost exactly when she turned a year). She grew up fine and was actually pretty easy to train. She didn't get tall but no one in her family is tall, but she was well built. I never fed her anything fancy either...I owned her for 9 years, I just sold her in July :( All I fed her was dry cob w/ Horse Guard multivitamin and grass hay. She spent the last couple of years on a dry lot cause she was always too fat.

her as a three year old:



How tall did she end up? She looks pretty short (which you mentioned) in that photo.

14hh but no one else in her family is above 15hh. I know the people who originally owned her sire and most of his line, and they're all short, stocky cow horses.

She's out of shape in this picture but this was taken in March of this year:


I don't think it has anything to do with her not being raised on "proper" minerals/grain/whatever. A horse can only grow as tall as they're meant to. If you can find out about how tall this filly's parents/or other family members are it might give you an idea of how tall she'll be, although it's no guarantee.
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This is my tubby gelding Ransom, and one of the last foals we had where we gave them the boot to pasture for the winter after they were halter broke. He wasn't grained and just lived on pasture until he was started under saddle as a 3yr old. His dam is 14.3-15 hands and his sire is 15.2. He grew to 15.3. Now we keep the babies in and grain them and play with them all winter and spring until green grass comes, then they get the boot to pasture.



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Posted 2014-08-25 11:44 PM
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I owned both a Jackie Bee gelding and a Streakin Six mare. Both heavy boned and loved to work.

The mare didnt have a fair upbringing so she took a bit more to trust but once she did, she'd do anything for you. I dont think the trust issue is bloodlines though just upbringing. We got her from a trader and she wasnt in good shape. i spent a lot of time with her and when the time came patterning was easy and she was competitive right away. Didnt take her long. She was super fast and just made her job look easy.

The gelding also had an unusual start and was downright kinda nasty when I got him but again he was not raised right. Basically left unhandled until 6. However, once he got a job, he was such an easy horse to ride. One of the most calm minded and gentle horses. He made a good barrel horse, a fanstastic 3 day eventer and was retired to a therapy barn. He liked jumping more than barrels though, he was a bit lazy and would kinda decide when he would go knock'em outta the park. He always was competitive but was capable of so much when he felt like it.

Not the best comparison but I would pick this prospect up in a heartbeat!
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With her particular upbringing and bloodlines, what would you all think a fair price would be for a filly like this? She's a flashy little sorrel with two stockings on her back legs and a super thin star & stripe. I know color doesn't make a difference when it comes to "the next great one," but some people pay more for it. We're on the last few head that my grandfather raised out of his old foundation bloodlines (Wimpy, Leo and King), and they're all 16+, so we haven't been in the buying/selling market for quite some time to know what ones even worth.
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I would take her in a heartbeat. Nothing "wrong" with being raised the way nature intended. She won't be "stunted" due to her upbringing.
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Posted 2014-08-26 8:14 AM
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Let 'er Buck - 2014-08-25 10:16 PM

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With those lines I'd pick her up and try her. My favorite mare is a Jackie Bee mare. Although they can be very business like, but I love her. True grit, all they way. Heck if you don't want her I just might.

What behaviors are you referring to when you say "business like?"

Duchess and TeeJay were very much let me do my job, stay out of my way type horses. They were our ranch horses. We had a Goldfinger gelding though that was the most people oriented, loving, smart horse we've had. And not a horse that wanted to out smart you, one that was just smart. If he got into trouble he'd just stop and stand there. All three of them would take care of you though. Don't ever think you could "man handle" them. None of them were buckers and typically if they refused to do something you probably should listen.

That said they were easy to handle on the ground and in the saddle. The other mare we had that was TeeJay Jackie Bee and by the Ole Man, she was a bit high strung, but still an awesome horse.

So a long answer to your question I guess. What I mean is that they weren't really pocket ponies until they got older. Now Duchess will chase you down for loving. The Goldfinger gelding now lives in England and TeeJay passed away 4 years ago. The other mare is still with us too, just hanging out.

I love those lines.
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I appreciate that you've all touched on the disposition of the horses you've personally had with similar lines, as that is very important to me. Just curious what kind of barrel horses they turned out to be as well?
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wyoming barrel racer - 2014-08-25 8:58 PM
SaraJean - 2014-08-25 8:28 PM I have no issue bringing home a yearling that's never been handled. I much prefer that over one that someone has spoiled & handled wrong as it's way easier to gentle one that it is to fix problems. It also wouldn't concern me that she's been turned out on pasture her whole life......she should know about & have respect for fences, be able to take care of herself in crummy weather, typically their feet wear nicely if they're in a big pasture & good grazing is a nice healthy diet. I'd rather have one that's been turned out over one that's been in a stall & been fed up hard...... 
I agree with this 

me too :)  Jackie Bee is one of my all time favorite bloodlines too.  Good heads on them and work ethic.



 
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I forgot to say I also have a mare with DFC on her papers (just barely, 3rd generation). I like her a lot, although her previous owner didn't get along with her. She's not marey or mean (no bite, kick, never pins her ears, etc) but she's not really lovey-dovey. She likes being scratched and brushed but if you sit there and "love" on her she eventually gets bored and walks away. Not really what I would consider hot although she has sporadic "come apart" moments. She ran on the track for 3 years and did awful, but she's a fairly consistent 2D barrel horse and could be in the 1D more often with someone better than me. She started out as a lease and then I asked to buy her because we got along so well. The horse can definitely tell if someone doesn't like her, I think that's why she didn't get along with her previous owner and also why she clocked so much slower. I always liked her from the beginning so she's always tried for me.
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I have two streakin six mares and they are both great minded, built like bricks and very easy to work with. Only fast when you ask.
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Mine have been ranch horses with only a little barrel training. My fave mare was super fast and could wrap up a barrel. The other two, I have no idea really. They were all very quick on their feet despite what some would think. All had lots of bone and were 15.2 or taller.

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BraysEasyKita89 - 2014-08-25 9:23 PM

With those bloodlines and if the price is right I would take the chance on her. 


What she said
and if you don't, let me know & I will!!!!

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BraysEasyKita89 - 2014-08-25 9:23 PM

With those bloodlines and if the price is right I would take the chance on her. 


What she said
and if you don't, let me know & I will!!!!

You said "if the price is right"... What would you guys consider a "good price" for this filly? We've never personally purchased anything this young, so I'm not even sure what to consider "fair" in today's market. They tend to grow up and then retire at our house... buying and selling has never been my forte ;)
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Let 'er Buck - 2014-08-26 3:38 PM

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BraysEasyKita89 - 2014-08-25 9:23 PM

With those bloodlines and if the price is right I would take the chance on her. 


What she said
and if you don't, let me know & I will!!!!

You said "if the price is right"... What would you guys consider a "good price" for this filly? We've never personally purchased anything this young, so I'm not even sure what to consider "fair" in today's market. They tend to grow up and then retire at our house... buying and selling has never been my forte ;)

Personally, I wouldnt pay more than $600 depending on confirmation and temperment. I bought a well bred two year old before the market was crap and I only paid $1500.
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I would say around 600.00 maybe 750.00 but thats with her papers.   
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I would say up to $1000 depending on temperment and conformation. But I REALLY like those lines.
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Okay, we're at least in the ballpark. Back to the main topic of my post.... I guess I should ask if anyone has had any NEGATIVE experiences with horses left to survive on their own after birth (no veterinary care, no grain or handling, no shelter, etc.)?? Today's competitive barrel horses are so impressive and advanced and as I said earlier, I'm not looking to win to the world, but am definitely looking for a competitive prospect at the larger barrel races, jackpots and ameatur/open rodeos and possibly (down the road) circuit level. Anyone ever have issues because of such care or think it might set one back or hinder them in any way? I'm just afraid of putting my time, money and heart into one that "was never going to make it" from day one. Thoughts? I appreciate all your thoughts so much BTW :)
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Also, would you price a halter broke weanling with similar breeding higher than an un touched yearling? Only asking because I found a weanling while I was looking for something to compare her to :)
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I personally would price a handled yearling higher but not by much. Usually if someone has handled them, its been worked with to a certain extent.

As far as your concerns about being raised on pasture... it wouldnt shy me away depending on the current appearance of the horse. If its head is really big compared to its body thats a sign that it is malnourished. I know a lot of young horses that are thrown out with minimal to no handeling for the first year or two if their lives and they dont have any "issues."

Every horse you buy is gonna have a risk (i'm sure you dont need me to tell you that) but I bought a prospect bred to the nines and built perfectly but he just didnt have it. My current horse is not bred anything impressive and has been the best horse ive ever had. He was the opposite of yours, he was EXTREMELY fat and a late 6 year old so it took a bit more work to get him broke due to so much body he had to suddenly learn to balance. You just never know.
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This little filly isn't skinny by any means; cute little head just has a bit of a belly. What's been y'all's experience breaking an older weanling/yearling that hasn't been handled? How much does their size affect your ability to "break" one?
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Let 'er Buck - 2014-08-26 6:31 PM This little filly isn't skinny by any means; cute little head just has a bit of a belly. What's been y'all's experience breaking an older weanling/yearling that hasn't been handled? How much does their size affect your ability to "break" one?

If you can rope, get in a safe round pen and sit on a horse. Let her move around you and toss a loop gentley over her head. You can give and take better from the horse and as long as it is a horse that won't pin ears or kick, you can do a nice job getting one gentle from another horse. If she isn't a spook bouncing off the pen, you can also try it from the ground. We rope all ours to halter break and they take to it really well. Also I can turn them out for 2yrs and go back and rope them and as soon as that rope pulls tight, they turn and face me and usually walk up the rope to me. Most of these are gentle enough that I can rub them in pasture anyways. 
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Let 'er Buck - 2014-08-26 4:55 PM Okay, we're at least in the ballpark. Back to the main topic of my post.... I guess I should ask if anyone has had any NEGATIVE experiences with horses left to survive on their own after birth (no veterinary care, no grain or handling, no shelter, etc.)?? Today's competitive barrel horses are so impressive and advanced and as I said earlier, I'm not looking to win to the world, but am definitely looking for a competitive prospect at the larger barrel races, jackpots and ameatur/open rodeos and possibly (down the road) circuit level. Anyone ever have issues because of such care or think it might set one back or hinder them in any way? I'm just afraid of putting my time, money and heart into one that "was never going to make it" from day one. Thoughts? I appreciate all your thoughts so much BTW :)

Personally, If I liked the filly's conformation, I would buy her. HOWEVER, you sound much too concerned/nervous/worried about buying this filly. So, don't do it. It is such a gamble with youngsters mainly due to their conformation affecting their athletic ability, then you have extreme temperaments and the chance of injuries.

Buy a well-started prospect from a good trainer with the bloodlines, conformation and color that you like. This way, you will be way ahead and have a better understanding of what you are buying.

 
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Let 'er Buck - 2014-08-26 4:55 PM Okay, we're at least in the ballpark. Back to the main topic of my post.... I guess I should ask if anyone has had any NEGATIVE experiences with horses left to survive on their own after birth (no veterinary care, no grain or handling, no shelter, etc.)?? Today's competitive barrel horses are so impressive and advanced and as I said earlier, I'm not looking to win to the world, but am definitely looking for a competitive prospect at the larger barrel races, jackpots and ameatur/open rodeos and possibly (down the road) circuit level. Anyone ever have issues because of such care or think it might set one back or hinder them in any way? I'm just afraid of putting my time, money and heart into one that "was never going to make it" from day one. Thoughts? I appreciate all your thoughts so much BTW :)

Personally, If I liked the filly's conformation, I would buy her. HOWEVER, you sound much too concerned/nervous/worried about buying this filly. So, don't do it. It is such a gamble with youngsters mainly due to their conformation affecting their athletic ability, then you have extreme temperaments and the chance of injuries.

Buy a well-started prospect from a good trainer with the bloodlines, conformation and color that you like. This way, you will be way ahead and have a better understanding of what you are buying.

 

I definitely see where you're coming from - I tend to over analyze EVERYTHING :/ I should have mentioned how much I want to jump on this opportunity, just don't want to jump at it, without considering what in getting myself into. She has a huge hip, cute little head, flashy markings (which don't matter, but make her nice to look at) and the run/cow blood cow blood combination I'm looking for. We don't move a lot of horses... We raise them, use them until they're of retirement age, then are far too attached to get rid of them :) I just don't have a lot of experience in youngsters so I was hoping for some outside thoughts. I absolutely see where you're coming from by saying I'm far too hesitant or concerned though haha just want to make sure I've considered every angle before pulling the trigger :)
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I guess the only way to go about it is, not to get your hopes to high right out of the gate. If you like her, pickup her up. Work with her awhile and then see how she reacts. See if you like her temperment. See how she learns. If you like her then invest more of your heart. But sometimes its okay to proceed with caution
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If you can get get cheap enough, even if you end up not liking her for one reason or another, you should be able to get your money back if you decide to sell her. (As long as you don't think you are going to MAKE money.) Would i pay more for a halter broke weanling? No. ( All else being equal. Same pedigree, same gender and color) For one thing, with a weanling, you have a whole extra YEAR of trying to keep them from crippling or killing themselves before you can ride them!!
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My gelding had a similar upbringing. Idk how much handing he had exactly, but when his previous owner got him as a 2yr old he hadn't even had his feet done. He's got Dash for Cash on his papers (and a bunch more that I don't know, but I know diddly about bloodlines). He's 6 and just the sweetest, quietest thing. He's never so much as pinned his ears at anyone or anything, he's handy, I'm told he's fast but I haven't run him yet, and like I said, quietest thing ever. Took him up to mounted shooting practice for the first time today and half way through he was practically falling asleep while others were shooting and was fine with me riding around with 5 balloons at a time setting them up to shoot.
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I pulled the trigger - here she is! Not the best angle, but your thoughts?? I love her. Definitely going to take some time to get her settled down, but she's such a cool mover. I might even have to go get her brother now, too :)

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 Oh wow. I reallllly like her!
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Let 'er Buck - 2014-09-05 10:36 PM

I pulled the trigger - here she is! Not the best angle, but your thoughts?? I love her. Definitely going to take some time to get her settled down, but she's such a cool mover. I might even have to go get her brother now, too :)

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 When you say settled down, do you mean while riding? I ask because if she was any more settled down in that picture, she'd be asleep. LOL Hope you have fun with her!
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Very nice filly! I bet you will be surprised at how quickly she takes to training. I bought a yearling in June that had no previous training, and he was very quick to learn everything.
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Thanks, guys :). When I say settled, I mean calm enough to let me simply catch her! Thursday was the first time her or her brother had really had any human interaction, been trailered, haltered, away from mama, etc. The little stud colt (two year old, half sib.) is much calmer and has already let us walk up and pet on him and we've gotten him to take about twenty steps on a lead. She on the other hand, won't let us near her quite yet :). We got them to separate from each other in the pen last night and she finally relaxed and started ignoring the fact that she was alone, but then it got dark and they both weren't too sure what to think. She's pretty skittish. I'm going back up to mess with them here in a few minutes - fingers crossed!
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I really like her!  Was she turned out in the same pasture as the 2yo colt?
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Yes, she was. Neither had been away from mama or handled until Wednesday. The stud colt is double bred Jackie Bee and very laid back. I'll try to get a pic today ;)
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That's what I was afraid of.  Hopefully you won't have another one come spring!  Would love to see pics of him. (And more pics of her.)  :)

I just LOVE my Jackie Bee bred mare! (She is actually triple bred Jimmie Mac Bee. {The sire of Jackie Bee.})

 
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hotpaints - 2014-08-26 8:02 PM
Let 'er Buck - 2014-08-26 4:55 PM Okay, we're at least in the ballpark. Back to the main topic of my post.... I guess I should ask if anyone has had any NEGATIVE experiences with horses left to survive on their own after birth (no veterinary care, no grain or handling, no shelter, etc.)?? Today's competitive barrel horses are so impressive and advanced and as I said earlier, I'm not looking to win to the world, but am definitely looking for a competitive prospect at the larger barrel races, jackpots and ameatur/open rodeos and possibly (down the road) circuit level. Anyone ever have issues because of such care or think it might set one back or hinder them in any way? I'm just afraid of putting my time, money and heart into one that "was never going to make it" from day one. Thoughts? I appreciate all your thoughts so much BTW :)
Personally, If I liked the filly's conformation, I would buy Buy a well-started prospect from a good trainer with the bloodlines, conformation and color that you like. This way, you will be way ahead and have a better understanding of what you are buying.HOWEVER, you sound much too concerned/nervous/worried about buying this filly. So, don't do it. It is such a gamble with youngsters mainly due to their conformation affecting their athletic ability, then you have extreme temperaments and the chance of injuries.



 

HOWEVER, you sound much too concerned/nervous/worried about buying this filly. So, don't do it. It is such a gamble with youngsters mainly due to their conformation affecting their athletic ability, then you have extreme temperaments and the chance of injuries.


exactly my thoughts.... too nervous nelly and not enough confidence on LeB to be able to buy something this nice without a guarentee.  Life isn't a guarentee.... anything and everything could happen good and bad.  Move on to something already started where you can see more of a future in the horses progress.
 
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RacingQH - 2014-09-06 10:29 AM

That's what I was afraid of.  Hopefully you won't have another one come spring!  Would love to see pics of him. (And more pics of her.)  :)

I just LOVE my Jackie Bee bred mare! (She is actually triple bred Jimmie Mac Bee. {The sire of Jackie Bee.})

 

We thought of that as well. Hoping for no surprises, but I think we're good.

Here is the stud colt, taken this morning. Poor guy doesn't know what he's in for next week. His days of manhood are dwindling ;)

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I like him too. Have you gotten their pedigrees yet?
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This is a full sister to the filly. I don't have one for the stud colt. She's not as closely related to the horses I was told she went back to, but I wasn't aware of that until after I committed to her. Oh well :)
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LOVED my Jackie Bee gelding!!! He had the Gold Fingers also!! 1D pole horse, super nitty gritty. Bomb proof. Gorgeous! 3D barrel horse but just because he liked poles better, Ratey turner.
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wyoming barrel racer - 2014-08-25 11:25 PM health should be fine as long as she wasn't on dirt pastures. Here are my 2 babies from this year that are out of mares that get nothing but pasture. We only hay if it snows so deep they can't get to it or if we have had a bad drought. They get no grain other than a 1/2 bucket of oats to split between them when we check on them and their water situation. They are now on free choice Redmonds salt and 12:12 mineral. They haven't been vaccinated since we have owned them, some we have had for 15+ yrs. 2 mares haven't had their feet even picked up in 10yrs+. I halter break the babies when we wean in Oct and they are May babies. I am usually rubbing all over their head, neck and sides in 15-20 minutes the first day. It is mostly about disposition.

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wyoming barrel racer - 2014-08-26 12:32 AM This is my tubby gelding Ransom, and one of the last foals we had where we gave them the boot to pasture for the winter after they were halter broke. He wasn't grained and just lived on pasture until he was started under saddle as a 3yr old. His dam is 14.3-15 hands and his sire is 15.2. He grew to 15.3. Now we keep the babies in and grain them and play with them all winter and spring until green grass comes, then they get the boot to pasture.

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