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Location: ND--it snows, it floods, it snows, it floods | Can someone please explain to me why her parents thought this was a good idea??? What would posses you to let your 9 year old child shoot a Uzi? And before anyone harps on me about guns and what not, I'm pro gun, have my concealed carry permit, hunt and target shoot for fun. But I have enough common sense to not allow a child into this situation.
http://www.inforum.com/content/video-girl-9-kills-arizona-shooting-instructor-uzi-accident
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Location: Somewhere in the middle of nowhere | I heard about this on the news this morning. I had the exact same question. I have not read the article and it may tell but why would a child (especially a 9 year old) need to shoot a weapon of that magnitude? |
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| docschic - 2014-08-27 3:29 PM Can someone please explain to me why her parents thought this was a good idea??? What would posses you to let your 9 year old child shoot a Uzi? And before anyone harps on me about guns and what not, I'm pro gun, have my concealed carry permit, hunt and target shoot for fun. But I have enough common sense to not allow a child into this situation.
http://www.inforum.com/content/video-girl-9-kills-arizona-shooting-instructor-uzi-accident
Can i second your comment what were they thinking rifle pistol BUT a uzki |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | I agree....stupidity at it's finest........I don't think the instructor was very intelligent either. He should have KNOWN that the recoil would be too much for a "inexperienced" child...... |
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| The instructor certainly should have known better. I wouldn't load more than one round for even an adult with no experience handling firearms. |
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| I am not against guns, I am married to an AVID hunter. I am pretty certain he's even got a gun under our bed. I don't have any desire to shoot them but to each their own. That said, these are the stupidest parents on the planet! I read an article that said with a gun like this the harder you pull back on the trigger the more bullets it will spray and that our human nature when it starts kicking is to clamp down harder.... absolute stupidity on everyone's part. |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | The instructor is a Darwin award candidate. Neither he nor the parents displayed any common sense. I feel terrible for the child who will have to live with this for the rest of her life. |
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Location: Kansas | Very sad |
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Location: SE KS | NJJ - 2014-08-27 2:39 PM
I agree....stupidity at it's finest........I don't think the instructor was very intelligent either. He should have KNOWN that the recoil would be too much for a "inexperienced" child......
THIS EXACTLY, that was my first thought!!!
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Location: Washington |  My husband and I just stared at each other this AM while we listened to this on the news. There were no words spoken.
Unreal. |
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| Guns dont kill people, people kill people...How sad for that girl |
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Location: Mansfield, Tx | I agree.... with everything said above...
I feel so sad for the little girl.... bless her heart...
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| I saw this on the news last night. I cannot understand why a young child was shooting a Uzi. Of course the recoil is strong. It's a automatic weapon. I am all for gun rights and the second ammendment but seriously what the hell |
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| Also does anyone know if there were other adults present? |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | How horrible  |
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Location: N Texas | heidiinaz - 2014-08-27 3:52 PM
Also does anyone know if there were other adults present?
The news story I heard this morning said that anyone under the age of 18 had to have parents present, and said that her parents were there.
I'm just curious what he was trying to prove by putting such a powerful weapon in the hands of a clearly inexperienced child that he KNEW wouldn't be able to handle the recoil. I've shot pistols before and even with the kick on some of those, I would NEVER let a child operate one.
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Location: Broxton, Ga | And now the idiots are speaking..................
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/08/27/its-sick-scarborough-unleashes-about-the-second-amendment-and-the-founding-fathers-after-child-accidentally-kills-shooting-instructor/ |
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| Totally agree. They should not let anyone without proper training and a experience shooter to hadle one. Including adults. That poor child |
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Location: SE Louisiana | heidiinaz - 2014-08-27 3:51 PM
I saw this on the news last night. I cannot understand why a young child was shooting a Uzi. Of course the recoil is strong. It's a automatic weapon. I am all for gun rights and the second ammendment but seriously what the hell
Actually... The Uzi is only a 9mm so the recoil is not terrible..... But nothing to put in the hands of any 9 year old child even tho I have a friend that set his son up to shoot his first deer with a 30.30 at 6/yo and his daughter at 7/yo... They both made good kill shots.. I agree with the nomination for this year's Darwin Award.. |
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| That's what I mean for a 9 yr old. And automatic. Pure ignorance and regard for saftey |
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Location: CTX | Shot a lot of Uzi's lately Komet?? And yes, before you ask, when I first got into the service our weapon was the Uzi.
Anyway, and there is a reason most of these weapons come with a "burst" setting. This means that even if you clamp down on the trigger you only shoot off 3 or 5 rounds at a time.... And every time you want to fire again you have to release the trigger and pull it again.
And yes, you can put them on auto which will empty your clip in no time. But unless you are very good at shooting these weapons after the first couple of rounds you will loose target because the gun will start to go up. Even for an adult this is the case.
I agree, why set this girl up for failure, because that is what happened here.
Unfortunately the instructor's life has been lost, but remember, the girls life will never be the same. And the adults are to blame, they should have known better.
Such a sad story all together.
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Location: stray dump capital of the world | Poor child has to now live with decisions made by idiots. Hope they get her into counseling. |
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Location: SE Louisiana | cranky B4 10am - 2014-08-27 5:45 PM
Shot a lot of Uzi's lately Komet?? And yes, before you ask, when I first got into the service our weapon was the Uzi.
Anyway, and there is a reason most of these weapons come with a "burst" setting. This means that even if you clamp down on the trigger you only shoot off 3 or 5 rounds at a time.... And every time you want to fire again you have to release the trigger and pull it again.
And yes, you can put them on auto which will empty your clip in no time. But unless you are very good at shooting these weapons after the first couple of rounds you will loose target because the gun will start to go up. Even for an adult this is the case.
I agree, why set this girl up for failure, because that is what happened here.
Unfortunately the instructor's life has been lost, but remember, the girls life will never be the same. And the adults are to blame, they should have known better.
Such a sad story all together.
I have never fired a fully automatic weapon tho I do understand anything more than a 3 round burst from any one of them is wasted rounds because it's virtually impossible to stay on target. I have however fired thousands of 9mm rounds from handguns. My personal favorite was the Beretta Parabellum like the one used in Lethal Weapon... Loved that gun!!!  |
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Location: California | Who are the parents? Are they nuts? I feel so bad for the girl and the instructor's family. That poor kid will indeed need therapy. I saw that on the news and I nominate it for the WTF moment for the week. |
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| sophiebelle - 2014-08-27 5:57 PM Poor child has to now live with decisions made by idiots. Hope they get her into counseling.
Ditto, beyond words how inept all the adults involved in this are. |
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Location: CTX | komet. - 2014-08-27 6:05 PM cranky B4 10am - 2014-08-27 5:45 PM Shot a lot of Uzi's lately Komet?? And yes, before you ask, when I first got into the service our weapon was the Uzi.
Anyway, and there is a reason most of these weapons come with a "burst" setting. This means that even if you clamp down on the trigger you only shoot off 3 or 5 rounds at a time.... And every time you want to fire again you have to release the trigger and pull it again.
And yes, you can put them on auto which will empty your clip in no time. But unless you are very good at shooting these weapons after the first couple of rounds you will loose target because the gun will start to go up. Even for an adult this is the case.
I agree, why set this girl up for failure, because that is what happened here.
Unfortunately the instructor's life has been lost, but remember, the girls life will never be the same. And the adults are to blame, they should have known better.
Such a sad story all together.
I have never fired a fully automatic weapon tho I do understand anything more than a 3 round burst from any one of them is wasted rounds because it's virtually impossible to stay on target. I have however fired thousands of 9mm rounds from handguns. My personal favorite was the Beretta Parabellum like the one used in Lethal Weapon... Loved that gun!!!
I've never shot a Beretta, so I don't know if I would like it. Personally I just picked up a 9mm Bersa, and I love it. Also I got a S&W 38 special revolver for my Bday (yep, hubby did good!) as a concealed, and I really like that one.
I am also no against kids learning to shoot and handle weapons, but it needs to be done with common sense, which was clearly not done this time.
We can only hope that other people learn from this mistake...
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Location: SE Louisiana | Now there is a story coming out about a COPS TV crew member that was shot and killed at an armed robbery of a Wendy's joint... Only the robber had an airsoft pistol and all the bullets were fired by police.. |
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| Three 4 Luck - 2014-08-27 3:16 PM The instructor is a Darwin award candidate. Neither he nor the parents displayed any common sense. I feel terrible for the child who will have to live with this for the rest of her life.
My thoughts EXACTLY. That POOR kid! |
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| I can't imagine what the parents are feeling. They probably didn't know any better and were letting the instructor do what They thought was ok.
The instructor was an idiot. I can't imagine why you would let a 9 year old, unexperienced child handle a fully automatic weapon. I doubt that poor girl will ever want to experience the joy that can come with shooting after this tragedy.
I'm fully pro gun. I hunt, shoot trap, and we have a couple of hand guns. I'd never let an inexperienced kid shoot much more than a .22. Maybe a shotgun soon after the .22, but they'd be well prepared. |
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Location: Midwest | komet. - 2014-08-27 7:38 PM Now there is a story coming out about a COPS TV crew member that was shot and killed at an armed robbery of a Wendy's joint... Only the robber had an airsoft pistol and all the bullets were fired by police..
an airsoft gun can kill someone. |
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Location: wherever my daughter's running | I agree with what is being said. I would like to add that I sure hope the parents are shielding this 9 year old from all that is being said in the media. I watched a lenghtly segment on this tragedy and it ripped everyone involved apart then at the end it said they hoped the child would get counseling - she will need it more than ever if she saw the segment I watched. I strongly believe in teachable moments - but his one needed a filter for the sake of the child who at any point in her life may decide to revisit this through technology. Prayers for all involved. |
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Location: SE Louisiana | barrelracr131 - 2014-08-28 7:57 AM
komet. - 2014-08-27 7:38 PM Now there is a story coming out about a COPS TV crew member that was shot and killed at an armed robbery of a Wendy's joint... Only the robber had an airsoft pistol and all the bullets were fired by police..
an airsoft gun can kill someone.
So can a BB gun... That's not the point... I don't fault the police for shooting the robber.... But someone didn't hit his target... Instead he hit the COPS crewman.. |
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| heidiinaz - 2014-08-27 3:52 PM
Also does anyone know if there were other adults present?
Yes, the parents were present and videotaping. It showed the video on the news last night - right up to just a moment before the instructor was shot. The instructor was standing next to her on her left side with one hand in front near the gun and one hand behind her back - the owner of the gun range said that is their procedure - ready to grab the gun with the right hand if something goes wrong. |
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9 year old shoots gun instructor (accidentally)