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Location: The Great West | I need some motivation here folks. I have a 3yo that's green that I am trying to get rides on that is a dirty bronc. One second she's fine and the next... Most of my barrel hoses have had some buck in them but I haven't been able to cover this one yet and she's hurt me twice now. I'd feel better if I knew what sets her off, I've switched saddles, I ride her in a ring snaffle and know it's not pintching. My husband says just sell her but I don't want her to hurt anyone else, so I need some cowgirl up.
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| If it was my horse I would send her down the road.. too many good horses to get hurt on a bad one. If that is not an option, maybe find a trainer that specializes in problem horses and doesn't mind a dirty bronc. My question would be though, could you ever trust her? |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | I would sell, I would let it be know that she's a dirty bucker. A horse like this is not worth the hurt and you can find better.
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Location: Randolph, Utah | Send her down the road. . . . Too many good ones to have a bad one.
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Location: Four Corners Colorado | Black Horse - 2014-08-28 2:29 PM I need some motivation here folks. I have a 3yo that's green that I am trying to get rides on that is a dirty bronc. One second she's fine and the next... Most of my barrel hoses have had some buck in them but I haven't been able to cover this one yet and she's hurt me twice now. I'd feel better if I knew what sets her off, I've switched saddles, I ride her in a ring snaffle and know it's not pintching. My husband says just sell her but I don't want her to hurt anyone else, so I need some cowgirl up.
This statement sort of bugs me. If most of your horses have some buck in them maybe you should look at what you're doing. How long has this horse been in training? How many times has be been ridden? |
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| All the horses I've ever had that bucked like that had a reason. Usually they were out in the SI. Very few chiro's can adjust the SI on a horse. The other most common reason tends to be navicular type issues. A lot of horses might buck a little at first as a defense mechanism. But if it's continuous and not getting better, there's usually an under lying cause. Very few are simply nasty broncs because they like it. If this horse is one of those few, find someone that can put a buckin strap on him and let them go to town (if they have the ability to stick it). The horse will either have a new calling in life or he will decide bucking isn't much fun after all. |
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Location: The Great West | equussynergy - 2014-08-28 2:48 PM Black Horse - 2014-08-28 2:29 PM I need some motivation here folks. I have a 3yo that's green that I am trying to get rides on that is a dirty bronc. One second she's fine and the next... Most of my barrel hoses have had some buck in them but I haven't been able to cover this one yet and she's hurt me twice now. I'd feel better if I knew what sets her off, I've switched saddles, I ride her in a ring snaffle and know it's not pintching. My husband says just sell her but I don't want her to hurt anyone else, so I need some cowgirl up.
This statement sort of bugs me. If most of your horses have some buck in them maybe you should look at what you're doing. How long has this horse been in training? How many times has be been ridden?
All my barrel horses like this one were started by others and had issues so they were sent packing. I can't afford "nice" horses so I picked through everyone else's "rejects". Most I figured out what set them off and theyed ride off in about a month. This one has 75-90 rides and is pretty small so I haven't ridden her as hard. |
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Location: The Great West | Part of me wants her gone too, But if we sold all the horses someone told us to most of us would be walking. There's a vet that does chiro that comes to our area once a month, I'll have her checked next time |
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Location: WYOMING | My little homemade buckstring has changed a few buckers minds here. I sent one off once to get broke and he came home with it... lol... guess he gave that colt starter a fit, so glad he did cause that string has come in handy! |
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Location: CA | If this filly is only three, you have hope of fixing this issue. If she's dumped you several times as you've stated, then she's getting a payoff for the bucking. It's like a horse that sets back. If they break the lead and get untied, then they'll do it again. Same with a bucker. If she can get you off, she's going to keep doing it. Find a cowboy that can ride her through it, and send her off to get her butt worked! Day work on a working ranch can do wonders to change an attitude. If this filly's only three, then she's really just a baby and pulling this kind of crap isn't really unheard of.
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Location: North Dakota | Send her to work on a ranch with a cowboy for 90 days. She will not buck when you get her back. |
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Location: Dubach, LA | angelica - 2014-08-28 6:47 PM Send her to work on a ranch with a cowboy for 90 days. She will not buck when you get her back.
Hmm. I have noticed, around here, that "ranch broke" means "dirty bucker."
Get G-bean to explain her string. It works.
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Location: sunny california | Gbean can you post pics?
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Location: California | CanCan - 2014-08-28 5:00 PM angelica - 2014-08-28 6:47 PM Send her to work on a ranch with a cowboy for 90 days. She will not buck when you get her back. Hmm. I have noticed, around here, that "ranch broke" means "dirty bucker."
Get G-bean to explain her string. It works.
Couldn't agree more with this.. There's a group of cowboys here who I wouldn't let touch my horse with a ten foot pole. No way are those horses "trained". Horses mostly buck because they are tight in the hind end. How much ground work have you done with this horse? Or have you just been riding from the beginning? |
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| I would find me a saddle and put it on her and tie her to a learning post for,a couple of weeks if you cant find someone to help you ride her. Also on one of chris coxes shows he put some kind of bucking rooe of a buckshin horse and made it stop. !i would get a big bottle of ace and after tying in themsun with a saddle i wpuld work in round pen after i gace a good dose of ace then sweat him up ty him back to learning post let the ace work get you a cowboy to to ride him after his head is low with the ace. After a,week this should stop it. I have a big 16.1 hand gelding he is a very nice mover and as a 2 year old after he was broke he never bucked even after 2 or3 weeks. As a three year old he was nice enough i had people with big check books telling me to price him. We my ground was bad and i felt like i needed someone to,put a little run in him so i would be ready after the first of the year. Well after about a month he colics, theynjust told the guy that was riding for me to give vitimans and minerals. But, i know now he was not getting enough hay, while he looked great shiney coat. But later i found out he got no turn out, but thats okay but he was not getting enough rougf age or,hay. When i got the horse back if i did not ride him for 5 or 6 day would have lounge the buck out of him and when i take him to a show the first day he worked great and second day he was a nervous wreck. Fast forward he got a little better with time and i do feed a lot of hay. It was not until last year imhad him at the vets for something else she did accupucture for,ulcers and hit one point he took 3 of of girls being twitched down the barn isle. I trwated him for ulcers for,60 days and we have no bucking for,the most part if he is sore maybe a small crow hop. This has been a really goofy horse, imhave seen me haul him 8 hours and come off trailer crow hoping, something in me knew this horses demeanor is so,quiet that it was not him, the week after imstarted the omperizole i carried him to a show he stood tied to,the trailer looking like i gave him the whole bottle of ace. tues i carried him back to vet as he has some soundness,issues he was so,quiet. I knew this horses mom and dad, this horse is good minded. Mhis hocks where fusing he balked at the gate just swirled aroind and carried me away from the arena, i got off of him lead him in the alley droped reins on his neck,climed on his 16.1 but and clucked to,him ran barrels and i got off. What i am saying give him some ulcer treatment, as i am thinking skm is right a bucker will have a problem and ulcers may be a part of,it. |
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| If you find out there is absolutely nothing bothering this horse to cause it to buck and exhausted all efforts, then maybe video this little bucker and advertise to some stock contrator. Could be a bucking horse of the year one day.
I really have no advice. Sorry.
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Location: Texas | I've had too many broken bones and injuries to keep a bucker. I take them to the sale with full disclosure. Flame away, there are too many horses out there that won't pull a sneaky buck on you.
I have known of some that hurt and reacted that way. I wouldn't invest much into a bucker unless he already had a win record, I had a fortune in him, or I'd raised him and he was out of my favorite mare. Otherwise, sayonara baby.
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Location: western Nebraska | I bought a nice bred 5 year old a year ago and rode him a couple of months. Several times I thought he was going to buck and I pulled him up. I asked the girl I bought him from about him bucking and was told he had never bucked. So I thought maybe I was doing something wrong. I took him to his first exh. barrel race and going slow he flat did an nfr bucking exh. and broke me to pieces. On the way to the hospital I texted the girl and told her what had happened. Her text back to me was "yeah, you gotta beat him to remind him not to buck!". I still hurt and live on pain pills. I would have never bought him in the first place if they would have been honest. I now ask about bucking first thing and several times. I will not spend one minute on a bucker!
Edited to say that this horse is now for sale and I know of two people that called on him and asked if he ever bucked. THey were told -No, never!!
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Location: The South | Fun2Run - 2014-08-28 8:53 PM I've had too many broken bones and injuries to keep a bucker. I take them to the sale with full disclosure. Flame away, there are too many horses out there that won't pull a sneaky buck on you.
I have known of some that hurt and reacted that way. I wouldn't invest much into a bucker unless he already had a win record, I had a fortune in him, or I'd raised him and he was out of my favorite mare. Otherwise, sayonara baby.
Yup!! I finally pulled the plug on mine this weekend. After almost 3 years of trying to explain it away and make excuses for him. Life is too short. I dont know why it took me so long to move on.
I still wish they would've given me a little prize at this shoot though, I stayed on and didn't drop my gun, and I got him stopped and went back to shoot the balloons we passed up during his saddle bronc demo.
I did think about shooting him in the head but I had to remind myself that they're only blanks LOL 
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Location: The South | doglady - 2014-08-28 9:10 PM I bought a nice bred 5 year old a year ago and rode him a couple of months. Several times I thought he was going to buck and I pulled him up. I asked the girl I bought him from about him bucking and was told he had never bucked. So I thought maybe I was doing something wrong. I took him to his first exh. barrel race and going slow he flat did an nfr bucking exh. and broke me to pieces. On the way to the hospital I texted the girl and told her what had happened. Her text back to me was "yeah, you gotta beat him to remind him not to buck!". I still hurt and live on pain pills. I would have never bought him in the first place if they would have been honest. I now ask about bucking first thing and several times. I will not spend one minute on a bucker!
Edited to say that this horse is now for sale and I know of two people that called on him and asked if he ever bucked. THey were told -No, never!!
I'm sorry you got hurt, I'll never understand dishonest sellers. I was told that the only time my horse bucked was 'one time when his saddle was too tight'. Umm hmm.
A month ago he bucked the whole way around the round pen when I was lunging him. Full blown, saddle bronc bucking for no reason. |
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| LindsayJordan84 - 2014-08-29 1:22 AM Fun2Run - 2014-08-28 8:53 PM I've had too many broken bones and injuries to keep a bucker. I take them to the sale with full disclosure. Flame away, there are too many horses out there that won't pull a sneaky buck on you.
I have known of some that hurt and reacted that way. I wouldn't invest much into a bucker unless he already had a win record, I had a fortune in him, or I'd raised him and he was out of my favorite mare. Otherwise, sayonara baby.
Yup!! I finally pulled the plug on mine this weekend. After almost 3 years of trying to explain it away and make excuses for him. Life is too short. I dont know why it took me so long to move on.
I still wish they would've given me a little prize at this shoot though, I stayed on and didn't drop my gun, and I got him stopped and went back to shoot the balloons we passed up during his saddle bronc demo.
I did think about shooting him in the head but I had to remind myself that they're only blanks LOL
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Location: Gainesville, TX | I'd maybe treat for ulcers, often a cause of bucking. That being said, an awesome trainer that specializes in buckers is an awesome way to go.
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Location: The Great West | *almost there* - 2014-08-28 7:35 PM CanCan - 2014-08-28 5:00 PM angelica - 2014-08-28 6:47 PM Send her to work on a ranch with a cowboy for 90 days. She will not buck when you get her back. Hmm. I have noticed, around here, that "ranch broke" means "dirty bucker."
Get G-bean to explain her string. It works.
I got her with 45-60 days on her so I just went to riding she's not been around barrels or roped on though.
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| We had a mare that thought she wanted to buck, so we put her in the bucking string. It took 2 outs for her to decide she did NOT want to buck and never bucked under saddle again. Find a rodeo company that has buckouts and ask if you can take your horse for a try out. Oh, that mare ended up a heck of a pick up horse! We eventually sold her to a friend for a family trail horse and they loved her until the day she died. |
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Location: ND | I have no time for a bucker, I exect my horses to be honest. If they can't be that they are going down the road. |
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Location: California | Black Horse - 2014-08-29 6:11 AM *almost there* - 2014-08-28 7:35 PM CanCan - 2014-08-28 5:00 PM angelica - 2014-08-28 6:47 PM Send her to work on a ranch with a cowboy for 90 days. She will not buck when you get her back. Hmm. I have noticed, around here, that "ranch broke" means "dirty bucker."
Get G-bean to explain her string. It works.
If you keep her, you need to go back to ground work. There is obviously holes in this horses training and I can only imagine the braces she has. She needs to learn to respect you from the ground. You need to get her soft. Teach her how to flex, and do a lot of hind quarters, front quarters work. Get her backing off of you just by your body moving towards her. She needs to learn you move her feet, but that you will also be a fair leader. Really learn the one rein stop. Shut her down before she can fully explode and get you off. Shut her down every single tme. Once you advance and do the hind quarters, front quarters well on the ground (disengaging the hind and front end), and you get the one rein stop down really well, start doing the disengaging under saddle. Right now, you need to completely forget about barrel racing her. She needs to learn to be a saddle horse first. |
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Location: Central Montana | Yuck! I would think long and hard on how much time to spend with one like that. A little crowhop here and there with a young, green, really fresh horse is expected but dirty bucking is a NO NO. |
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Location: North Texas | From prior experience with one bucker in particular:
"Keep this horse and get killed, or send it away with full disclosure". Preferably to the kill pen where no one else will have opportunity to be hurt! |
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| The question to ask is when is the horse bucking? At the beginning, when spooking, when she gets mad, or is it random?
I find if it is random, these horses end up being the dirty buckers that don't grow out of it well, the other option generally you can stop the buck by being attentive to the horse.
For my young ones I am leery of, I will saddle then pony for 2 miles, at all gaits before I get on, this way they are a little tired and all the muscles are warmed up and should be relaxed.
Also a horses size shouldn't impede the length of a ride. If the horse needs to be tired, I don't care how tall/short they are, they will get worked. With my young ones I set goals for what I want to accomplish that ride, if they accomplish everything I want in 30 min, I am done, if it takes 2 hours I will spend the time.
As other people have said saddle fit, saddle pad, ulcers, chiro, I had one that would buck everytime her ribs went out. She is now someone else's pasture pet.
One other thing to check is PSSM, you can do the test, or take her off of all NSC including grass, alfalfa, and grains, if she gets better then you might want to test to confirm, if she doesn't probably not, but the testing is the only way to completely rule out.
I absolutely will not drug a horse, every drug has side effects and depending how the drugs are excreted in the system can damage organs. Too much ACE can cause penile drop and this can be irreversible.
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Location: Four Corners Colorado | *almost there* - 2014-08-29 9:27 AM Black Horse - 2014-08-29 6:11 AM *almost there* - 2014-08-28 7:35 PM CanCan - 2014-08-28 5:00 PM angelica - 2014-08-28 6:47 PM Send her to work on a ranch with a cowboy for 90 days. She will not buck when you get her back. Hmm. I have noticed, around here, that "ranch broke" means "dirty bucker."
Get G-bean to explain her string. It works.
This is what I would do if I was going to keep the horse. I grew up on sale barn horses and the first week no matter how broke they were or seemed we would always start like they were a colt and make sure everything was solid before we put a lot of miles under saddle. You'd be amazed at the holes you find when you do that. |
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Location: Finally horseback again.... | The buck string is a great thing!!!
My best mare was a bucker and six years later she is the nicest mare I own.
It is very simple really, but I will say this, my mare has bucked since she was a baby at a lope. You had to warm her up first by longe line and she would not buck with you.
I treated her for ulcers last month, no more bucking ... AT ALL.
I wish I had done this years ago. |
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Location: Texas! | Will someone post a description of this buck string, preferably with pictures. |
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Location: Pacific Northwest | I don't like dirty buckers...all of mine have bucked at some point when they were younger, but they all had a trigger and I found away around it. As they got older they learned bucking just simply wasn't an option. But to me dirty bucking is a different thing entirely, and I would never be able to trust a horse that breaks in half for no reason. |
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Location: Finally horseback again.... | WYOracer - 2014-08-29 1:37 PM Will someone post a description of this buck string, preferably with pictures.
I dont have pics but I can try.
You take a thin cotton cord, usually can find them at TSC, buy it by the length. Make a loop at one end. You place it on the horse over the poll, around through the upper lip and run the loose end through the eye you created. Kinda like a rope halter. You want to creat a loop/ lip chain type effect. Dont pull it too tight just enough that they cant wiggle it off. Tie it off at the eye.
Then with your horse saddled, attached the snap end of a split rein directly between the ears of the horse. Then you tie off to the saddle horn.
Leave enough length that the horse can carry his head level, but if he bogs his head to buck, it acts as a lip chain and they wont hit it but a few times before they figure it out. Work them on the ground the first few times you use it.
Then as they get used to it , you can use it while riding.
It made a turning point in mine!!
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Location: Deep South | geronabean - 2014-08-28 5:23 PM
My little homemade buckstring has changed a few buckers minds here. I sent one off once to get broke and he came home with it... lol... guess he gave that colt starter a fit, so glad he did cause that string has come in handy!
You have piqued my curiosity... |
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Location: NE Texas | BamaCanChaser - 2014-08-29 2:51 PM geronabean - 2014-08-28 5:23 PM My little homemade buckstring has changed a few buckers minds here. I sent one off once to get broke and he came home with it... lol... guess he gave that colt starter a fit, so glad he did cause that string has come in handy! You have piqued my curiosity...
Mine too, gbean. Let's see it! |
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Location: Finally horseback again.... | Herbie - 2014-08-29 3:25 PM BamaCanChaser - 2014-08-29 2:51 PM geronabean - 2014-08-28 5:23 PM My little homemade buckstring has changed a few buckers minds here. I sent one off once to get broke and he came home with it... lol... guess he gave that colt starter a fit, so glad he did cause that string has come in handy! You have piqued my curiosity...
Herbie,
I can show you.
She is the one who told me about it for Cat when she was a baby.
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Location: NE Texas | Canchasr1 - 2014-08-29 3:40 PM Herbie - 2014-08-29 3:25 PM BamaCanChaser - 2014-08-29 2:51 PM geronabean - 2014-08-28 5:23 PM My little homemade buckstring has changed a few buckers minds here. I sent one off once to get broke and he came home with it... lol... guess he gave that colt starter a fit, so glad he did cause that string has come in handy! You have piqued my curiosity...
I can show you.
She is the one who told me about it for Cat when she was a baby.
It worked
Fantastic. Can you actually make a run with it? I may not ever need it, but in the event I do, might be nice to have!  |
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| I have no advice just wanted to say I feel your pain! I had to sell probably the nicest bred horse I will ever own a grandson of Peptoboonsmal and Highbrow Hickory and pretty as can be because he was a bucker. Totally unpredictable would be fine for months and then randomly break in two you never saw it coming. It was always just when I would gain confidence we were over it. He had a break while I was pregnant and bucked worse and more frequently after that. I finally realized I would never trust him and no matter how talented he was we were not going to work. Sold with full disclosure to someone much braver than I and I hope the best for them. Don't regret it at all. |
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Location: WYOMING | OK so Im NOT recommending anyone use this but its what I used to stop a number of buckers or potential buckers. Worked great for me, but if used by someone who doesnt know how or not introduced right or used right, well you can get in trouble.
I used a small pencil thin nylon cord so it wouldnt stretch and made a headstall out of it. There is a string that goes from the ears to the saddle horn. It needs to be snug so that the headstall part doesnt slide back when the horse bogs its head, or you can add a brwo band to it for the same reason. String goes over the top gum and around the head. Second string goes from the ears back to the horn. If its loose it wont work. After they understand its there and what it does then it can get a bit looser.
I introduced it in the round pen first, I didnt just put it on, climb on and ride off...
Oh and someone msged me about would it stop one from kicking up their heels while warming up.. well IMO thats not what this is intended for. A horse that feels great and/or one that bounces around is WAY different from a bad bucker... and they need to be addressed differently.
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| geronabean - 2014-08-29 5:27 PM OK so Im NOT recommending anyone use this but its what I used to stop a number of buckers or potential buckers. Worked great for me, but if used by someone who doesnt know how or not introduced right or used right, well you can get in trouble.
I used a small pencil thin nylon cord so it wouldnt stretch and made a headstall out of it. There is a string that goes from the ears to the saddle horn. It needs to be snug so that the headstall part doesnt slide back when the horse bogs its head, or you can add a brwo band to it for the same reason. String goes over the top gum and around the head. Second string goes from the ears back to the horn. If its loose it wont work. After they understand its there and what it does then it can get a bit looser.
I introduced it in the round pen first, I didnt just put it on, climb on and ride off...
Oh and someone msged me about would it stop one from kicking up their heels while warming up.. well IMO thats not what this is intended for. A horse that feels great and/or one that bounces around is WAY different from a bad bucker... and they need to be addressed differently.
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Location: Nowhere Special | I have one that everytime I sent him to the trainer he came back with a full report on what a great saddle bronc horse he could be along with the tag of he can "REALLY BUCK" I have sold him twice on full discloser and he came back twice because he broke in two before they ever got on. This horse has what it takes to be solid pro rodeo horse, he is as atheltic of a horse as I have ever seen. He is a MONSTER at 16.2 and as wide as he is tall, but when on him and to watch him move you would never think he was an inch over 14 hands.. That big and that catty don't usually go hand in hand.
I raised this horse and he is 8 years old, I HAVE NEVER SEEN HIM BUCK! I let him sit for months sometimes a full year at a time before I crawl up on him, hes never so much as crow hopped.. But I also pussy foot around with him too because all the reports have me spooked about what he could really do.. I saddle him and tie him up while I ride another horse, then I round pen him, then I get on.. I have felt him "COIL" up underneath me before when he has spooked but was easily one rein stopped and sweet talked out of it.. He just simpily is not a horse nor will ever be a horse you can just "cowboy" on.. You can not force him into something, you can talk him into anything, and a little extra prep work evidently goes a long way.. Hes big enough to really hurt me and even tho hes never been anything but honest for me I still don't trust him because I know what he could do.I always knew he was the best horse on the place but I can't get past the idea of he could be a bronc so hes for sale now to hopefully someone who does not have the mental block I do on him and can take him on to where I know he will go. So with that said a good question for you is do you think you could ever really trust this mare after she has hurt you? |
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Location: Texas | No horse that I know bucks is going to hurt me. That is beyond me how anyone would keep a bucker!
I have rode lots and lots of horses. The horses I sent home bc they bucked never stopped. I'll find another thanks. They would find a new zip code in Mexico. |
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Location: Pacific Northwest | jetgetset - 2014-08-29 7:26 PM
I have one that everytime I sent him to the trainer he came back with a full report on what a great saddle bronc horse he could be along with the tag of he can "REALLY BUCK" I have sold him twice on full discloser and he came back twice because he broke in two before they ever got on. This horse has what it takes to be solid pro rodeo horse, he is as atheltic of a horse as I have ever seen. He is a MONSTER at 16.2 and as wide as he is tall, but when on him and to watch him move you would never think he was an inch over 14 hands.. That big and that catty don't usually go hand in hand.
I raised this horse and he is 8 years old, I HAVE NEVER SEEN HIM BUCK! I let him sit for months sometimes a full year at a time before I crawl up on him, hes never so much as crow hopped.. But I also pussy foot around with him too because all the reports have me spooked about what he could really do.. I saddle him and tie him up while I ride another horse, then I round pen him, then I get on.. I have felt him "COIL" up underneath me before when he has spooked but was easily one rein stopped and sweet talked out of it.. He just simpily is not a horse nor will ever be a horse you can just "cowboy" on.. You can not force him into something, you can talk him into anything, and a little extra prep work evidently goes a long way.. Hes big enough to really hurt me and even tho hes never been anything but honest for me I still don't trust him because I know what he could do.I always knew he was the best horse on the place but I can't get past the idea of he could be a bronc so hes for sale now to hopefully someone who does not have the mental block I do on him and can take him on to where I know he will go. So with that said a good question for you is do you think you could ever really trust this mare after she has hurt you?
That's how my mare is...I originally started off as just riding her for the owner because she was away at school, and she told me "you might want to wear a seat belt the first time you ride her, she's going to buck hard" because she hadn't been ridden in awhile. And she said it wasn't uncommon for her to walk off with a hump in her back when you first get on her even after being ridden regularly.
I've had this mare for 2 years now, just recently bought her, and have still never had her try to buck. I have no idea what I do different from her previous owner, but the mare just doesn't buck with me. That being said, I could SEE her bucking. She's got an attitude and time off makes her lose her brain, but instead of just climbing on her and asking to get bucked off, I always free lunge her and get an idea of what her mind is like. Sometimes after a period of time off I can start riding right away, other times she needs a few days of round pen work.
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Location: CA | I guess I'm kind of surprised that so many are saying to send this filly packing. As per the OP, this is a green 3yr old filly, not a seasoned finished 10yr old that's just being a jerk. Are all horses just born broke? I'm the odd man out here as I still say a GREEN 3yr old might deserve a little more training before being pawned off on someone else or sent on a truck to Mexico. |
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| At three I think the problem might be fixed. We have a 12 yr old who started( for sale by the way) I think his problem is he needs a job. all yr. Other than that he's awesome. |
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| PM me if you need to find any buckers a home. Thanks. |
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Location: stray dump capital of the world | MariaCan3LD - 2014-08-31 1:27 AM PM me if you need to find any buckers a home. Thanks.
Seriously???? I have one I'd like to send packing. I just don't want anyone getting hurt on him. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | MariaCan3LD - 2014-08-31 1:27 AM
PM me if you need to find any buckers a home. Thanks.
Just wondering what do you do with them? |
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Location: The Great West | geronabean - 2014-08-29 3:27 PM
OK so Im NOT recommending anyone use this but its what I used to stop a number of buckers or potential buckers. Worked great for me, but if used by someone who doesnt know how or not introduced right or used right, well you can get in trouble.
I used a small pencil thin nylon cord so it wouldnt stretch and made a headstall out of it. There is a string that goes from the ears to the saddle horn. It needs to be snug so that the headstall part doesnt slide back when the horse bogs its head, or you can add a brwo band to it for the same reason. String goes over the top gum and around the head. Second string goes from the ears back to the horn. If its loose it wont work. After they understand its there and what it does then it can get a bit looser.
I introduced it in the round pen first, I didnt just put it on, climb on and ride off...
Oh and someone msged me about would it stop one from kicking up their heels while warming up.. well IMO thats not what this is intended for. A horse that feels great and/or one that bounces around is WAY different from a bad bucker... and they need to be addressed differently.
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Your the second person to suggest this, I've got a call into a chiro. If a round pen refresher and some ponying don't change her mind this is in her future.
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Location: Deep South | geronabean - 2014-08-29 4:27 PM
OK so Im NOT recommending anyone use this but its what I used to stop a number of buckers or potential buckers. Worked great for me, but if used by someone who doesnt know how or not introduced right or used right, well you can get in trouble.
I used a small pencil thin nylon cord so it wouldnt stretch and made a headstall out of it. There is a string that goes from the ears to the saddle horn. It needs to be snug so that the headstall part doesnt slide back when the horse bogs its head, or you can add a brwo band to it for the same reason. String goes over the top gum and around the head. Second string goes from the ears back to the horn. If its loose it wont work. After they understand its there and what it does then it can get a bit looser.
I introduced it in the round pen first, I didnt just put it on, climb on and ride off...
Oh and someone msged me about would it stop one from kicking up their heels while warming up.. well IMO thats not what this is intended for. A horse that feels great and/or one that bounces around is WAY different from a bad bucker... and they need to be addressed differently.
:)
Saving this on my Pinterest! Thanks for posting! |
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| geronabean - 2014-08-29 4:27 PM
OK so Im NOT recommending anyone use this but its what I used to stop a number of buckers or potential buckers. Worked great for me, but if used by someone who doesnt know how or not introduced right or used right, well you can get in trouble.
I used a small pencil thin nylon cord so it wouldnt stretch and made a headstall out of it. There is a string that goes from the ears to the saddle horn. It needs to be snug so that the headstall part doesnt slide back when the horse bogs its head, or you can add a brwo band to it for the same reason. String goes over the top gum and around the head. Second string goes from the ears back to the horn. If its loose it wont work. After they understand its there and what it does then it can get a bit looser.
I introduced it in the round pen first, I didnt just put it on, climb on and ride off...
Oh and someone msged me about would it stop one from kicking up their heels while warming up.. well IMO thats not what this is intended for. A horse that feels great and/or one that bounces around is WAY different from a bad bucker... and they need to be addressed differently.
:)
rad little device. I'm filing this away for the future .....
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