|
|
 Hawty & Nawty
Posts: 20424
 
| Obama DO something. |
|
| |
|
"Heck's Coming With Me"
Posts: 10797
 
Location: Kansas | He is.....I believe over the weekend he had two fundraisers and one or two weddings to attend.
I couldn't believe my ears when I watched a few minutes of Morning Joe on MSNBC this morning. Joe, a former Republican Congressman, contends the world would be a safer place if Saddam Hussein were alive...that Iraq wouldn't have evolved into the safehaven it is today for ISIS. Plainly he missed the pictures of the Kurdish village Saddam unleashed chemical weapons on. I saw them. People and animals laying dead everywhere. A mother laying in a doorway holding her dead infant.
|
|
| |
|
 Shelter Dog Lover
Posts: 10277
| He is too busy. |
|
| |
|
Hawty & Nawty
Posts: 20424
| I feel like I'm watching a really bad movie with terrible actors. This country's focus is so out of whack. Is there any doubt in anyone's minds what should be done about this? |
|
| |
|
 Expert
Posts: 4121
Location: SE Louisiana | RidenFly - 2014-09-02 12:26 PM
Obama DO something.
What do you expect Obozo to do? Forbid the journalists from going or pay to get these people back? Those idiots in ISIS don't seem to understand the caliber of martyrs they are creating every time they do something like this. The press never forgets and they can do much to sway opinion around the world. |
|
| |
|
"Heck's Coming With Me"
Posts: 10797
Location: Kansas | komet. - 2014-09-02 12:46 PM RidenFly - 2014-09-02 12:26 PM Obama DO something. What do you expect Obozo to do? Forbid the journalists from going or pay to get these people back? Those idiots in ISIS don't seem to understand the caliber of martyrs they are creating every time they do something like this. The press never forgets and they can do much to sway opinion around the world.
A powerful leader can strike fear into the hearts of their enemies i.e. JKF and the Cuban blockade. A weak leader gives them forward momentum.
|
|
| |
|
 BHW Resident Surgeon
Posts: 25352
Location: Bastrop, Texas | Everyone around the world is seeing weakness in our president. Total lack of respect, and our enemies are seizing on the opportunity. They are emboldened. |
|
| |
|
Expert
Posts: 1561
| Frodo - 2014-09-02 12:40 PM
He is.....I believe over the weekend he had two fundraisers and one or two weddings to attend.
I couldn't believe my ears when I watched a few minutes of Morning Joe on MSNBC this morning. Joe, a former Republican Congressman, contends the world would be a safer place if Saddam Hussein were alive...that Iraq wouldn't have evolved into the safehaven it is today for ISIS. Plainly he missed the pictures of the Kurdish village Saddam unleashed chemical weapons on. I saw them. People and animals laying dead everywhere. A mother laying in a doorway holding her dead infant.
I dont know Joe or watch his show but he is right with that statement. |
|
| |
|
Expert
Posts: 4121
Location: SE Louisiana | Frodo - 2014-09-02 1:12 PM
komet. - 2014-09-02 12:46 PM RidenFly - 2014-09-02 12:26 PM Obama DO something. What do you expect Obozo to do? Forbid the journalists from going or pay to get these people back? Those idiots in ISIS don't seem to understand the caliber of martyrs they are creating every time they do something like this. The press never forgets and they can do much to sway opinion around the world.
You can't be serious... JFK threatened world annihilation via nuclear holocaust. ISIS wants to reestablish the long-expired Caliphate, making this a Muslim problem. Let the 1.6 billion Muslims deal with it. None of our business. |
|
| |
|
BHW Resident Surgeon
Posts: 25352
Location: Bastrop, Texas | komet. - 2014-09-02 1:27 PM
Frodo - 2014-09-02 1:12 PM
komet. - 2014-09-02 12:46 PM RidenFly - 2014-09-02 12:26 PM Obama DO something. What do you expect Obozo to do? Forbid the journalists from going or pay to get these people back? Those idiots in ISIS don't seem to understand the caliber of martyrs they are creating every time they do something like this. The press never forgets and they can do much to sway opinion around the world.
You can't be serious... JFK threatened world annihilation via nuclear holocaust. ISIS wants to reestablish the long-expired Caliphate, making this a Muslim problem. Let the 1.6 billion Muslims deal with it. None of our business.
None of our business? The ultimate goal of this bunch is to annihilate the "Big satan". It most certainly is our business, as much as we'd like for it not to be. JFK didn't exactly "threaten" world annihilation, in the sense that he was beating the war drums. He said that world annihilation might well be the consequence of all-out nuclear war. It wasn't a threat...it was a statement of fact. He had to take a very hard, resolute position with an enemy that only respected strength. He said that any missile launched at the US or any of our western allies would be regarded as a direct attack by the Soviet Union and would call for a full retaliatory response. He looked them in the eye, and they blinked. Kennedy fully understood our adversary. Any thing less than a resolute stance might well have resulted in all out nuclear war. He really was a great president. |
|
| |
|
Expert
Posts: 4121
Location: SE Louisiana | HotbearLVR - 2014-09-02 2:08 PM
komet. - 2014-09-02 1:27 PM
Frodo - 2014-09-02 1:12 PM
komet. - 2014-09-02 12:46 PM RidenFly - 2014-09-02 12:26 PM Obama DO something. What do you expect Obozo to do? Forbid the journalists from going or pay to get these people back? Those idiots in ISIS don't seem to understand the caliber of martyrs they are creating every time they do something like this. The press never forgets and they can do much to sway opinion around the world.
You can't be serious... JFK threatened world annihilation via nuclear holocaust. ISIS wants to reestablish the long-expired Caliphate, making this a Muslim problem. Let the 1.6 billion Muslims deal with it. None of our business.
None of our business? The ultimate goal of this bunch is to annihilate the "Big satan". It most certainly is our business, as much as we'd like for it not to be. JFK didn't exactly "threaten" world annihilation, in the sense that he was beating the war drums. He said that world annihilation might well be the consequence of all-out nuclear war. It wasn't a threat...it was a statement of fact. He had to take a very hard, resolute position with an enemy that only respected strength. He said that any missile launched at the US or any of our western allies would be regarded as a direct attack by the Soviet Union and would call for a full retaliatory response. He looked them in the eye, and they blinked. Kennedy fully understood our adversary. Any thing less than a resolute stance might well have resulted in all out nuclear war. He really was a great president.
JFK was dealing with a nation state (USSR)... ISIS is no such thing. They want to set up a caliphate to rule all Muslims everywhere.. Anything we do will just be seen as outside interference and influence by infidels and will be unwelcome after they attain their goals. Did you learn nothing from our treatment after we helped the Mujaheddin expel the USSR from Afghanistan? |
|
| |
|
Expert
Posts: 4121
Location: SE Louisiana | I mean honestly Doc!! How many ******* times do they have to spit in our face after we help them before we STOP helping them?? |
|
| |
|
BHW Resident Surgeon
Posts: 25352
Location: Bastrop, Texas | ISIS is our enemy, like it or not. Sooner or later we have to kill them.
The Mujahadin were not our enemies at the time. In fact, they were adversaries against our Cold War ally, the Soviet Union. Big difference. |
|
| |
|
Expert
Posts: 4121
Location: SE Louisiana | HotbearLVR - 2014-09-02 2:30 PM
ISIS is our enemy, like it or not. Sooner or later we have to kill them.
The Mujahadin were not our enemies at the time. In fact, they were adversaries against our Cold War ally, the Soviet Union. Big difference.
YES!! That's my point!!! As soon as the USSR pulled out WE became the bad guy!!! Let the Muslims solve their OWN PROBLEMS FROM NOW ON... As you like to say. It's a domestic affair.... None of our business!! |
|
| |
|
BHW Resident Surgeon
Posts: 25352
Location: Bastrop, Texas | komet. - 2014-09-02 2:34 PM
HotbearLVR - 2014-09-02 2:30 PM
ISIS is our enemy, like it or not. Sooner or later we have to kill them.
The Mujahadin were not our enemies at the time. In fact, they were adversaries against our Cold War ally, the Soviet Union. Big difference.
YES!! That's my point!!! As soon as the USSR pulled out WE became the bad guy!!! Let the Muslims solve their OWN PROBLEMS FROM NOW ON... As you like to say. It's a domestic affair.... None of our business!!
It's not a domestic affair. It is an international affair involving the entire Middle East, especially Syria and Iraq, but if their dream of a caliphate becomes reality, you can rest assured they will turn their focus on the western world. What do you think they intend to do about the "big Satan"?
Just like Bin Laden warned us he was coming after us and made no distinction between military and civilian targets, these people have warned us. If you don't believe they are a threat to the world, then I have a bridge in Brooklyn I'd love to sell you real cheap. Judging from the way they slaughtered all those Christian-Arabs and Kurds, do you seriously think they will leave us alone under any circumstances?
They need to be hunted down and vaporized. |
|
| |
|
 I'm not opinionated
Posts: 4597
Location: Online | This deal is so screwed up, we are fighting and idiology that no one understands. Obama thinks he can stomp his foot, point his finger and say "stop that you meany heads". It ain't gonna work that way. They don't play by the rules. He of all people should understand that....  The only way to stop them is kill them all. One way to prevent them from getting us on our own soil is to close the d@mn border!!! |
|
| |
|
BHW Resident Surgeon
Posts: 25352
Location: Bastrop, Texas | rodeomom13 - 2014-09-02 2:48 PM
This deal is so screwed up, we are fighting and idiology that no one understands. Obama thinks he can stomp his foot, point his finger and say "stop that you meany heads". It ain't gonna work that way. They don't play by the rules. He of all people should understand that.... The only way to stop them is kill them all. One way to prevent them from getting us on our own soil is to close the d@mn border!!!
Exactly. Enough of this bullsh!t. We have no choice in the matter. They are calling our bluff......time to awaken the sleeping giant and start taking them out, one at a time, if necessary. Screw the UN. Screw Putin...just go about our business and do what we have to do sooner or later anyway. This is crystal clear...not even remotely nuanced. |
|
| |
|
Expert
Posts: 4121
Location: SE Louisiana | HotbearLVR - 2014-09-02 2:42 PM
komet. - 2014-09-02 2:34 PM
HotbearLVR - 2014-09-02 2:30 PM
ISIS is our enemy, like it or not. Sooner or later we have to kill them.
The Mujahadin were not our enemies at the time. In fact, they were adversaries against our Cold War ally, the Soviet Union. Big difference.
YES!! That's my point!!! As soon as the USSR pulled out WE became the bad guy!!! Let the Muslims solve their OWN PROBLEMS FROM NOW ON... As you like to say. It's a domestic affair.... None of our business!!
It's not a domestic affair. It is an international affair involving the entire Middle East, especially Syria and Iraq, but if their dream of a caliphate becomes reality, you can rest assured they will turn their focus on the western world. What do you think they intend to do about the "big Satan"?
Just like Bin Laden warned us he was coming after us and made no distinction between military and civilian targets, these people have warned us. If you don't believe they are a threat to the world, then I have a bridge in Brooklyn I'd love to sell you real cheap. Judging from the way they slaughtered all those Christian-Arabs and Kurds, do you seriously think they will leave us alone under any circumstances?
They need to be hunted down and vaporized.
In case you have not been paying attention. The Muslims in the Middle East want to deal with their own problems.... I say let them!! If they lose all control then we can step in again IF they want help. If you and Rodeomom want to kill them so bad... Grab your guns and get over there!! |
|
| |
|
Hawty & Nawty
Posts: 20424
| Saying what we might be thinking. How do we know there are only mexicans crossing? They are so similiar in appearance. Who can say what is coming across. I wish we could close the lid tight. At least until this fiasco passes. |
|
| |
|
Expert
Posts: 1561
| HotbearLVR - 2014-09-02 2:30 PM
ISIS is our enemy, like it or not. Sooner or later we have to kill them.
The Mujahadin were not our enemies at the time. In fact, they were adversaries against our Cold War ally, the Soviet Union. Big difference.
Our enemy that we funded and armed? |
|
| |
|
 Knowledge is Power
Posts: 4051
Location: wherever my daughter's running | http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/devastated-parents-fallen-vet-demand-obama-resignation-scathing-open-letter-president-article-1.1924812?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+nydnrss%2Fsports%2Fbasketball%2Fnets+%28Sports%2FBasketball%2FNets%29
These parents made some valid points. |
|
| |
|
I'm not opinionated
Posts: 4597
Location: Online | komet. - 2014-09-02 2:01 PM HotbearLVR - 2014-09-02 2:42 PM komet. - 2014-09-02 2:34 PM HotbearLVR - 2014-09-02 2:30 PM ISIS is our enemy, like it or not. Sooner or later we have to kill them. The Mujahadin were not our enemies at the time. In fact, they were adversaries against our Cold War ally, the Soviet Union. Big difference. YES!! That's my point!!! As soon as the USSR pulled out WE became the bad guy!!! Let the Muslims solve their OWN PROBLEMS FROM NOW ON... As you like to say. It's a domestic affair.... None of our business!! It's not a domestic affair. It is an international affair involving the entire Middle East, especially Syria and Iraq, but if their dream of a caliphate becomes reality, you can rest assured they will turn their focus on the western world. What do you think they intend to do about the "big Satan"? Just like Bin Laden warned us he was coming after us and made no distinction between military and civilian targets, these people have warned us. If you don't believe they are a threat to the world, then I have a bridge in Brooklyn I'd love to sell you real cheap. Judging from the way they slaughtered all those Christian-Arabs and Kurds, do you seriously think they will leave us alone under any circumstances? They need to be hunted down and vaporized. In case you have not been paying attention. The Muslims in the Middle East want to deal with their own problems.... I say let them!! If they lose all control then we can step in again IF they want help. If you and Rodeomom want to kill them so bad... Grab your guns and get over there!!
I think Komet is missing the point. Leaving them be is not going to stop this. They thrive on violence. This particular extremist group does not think like we do. They can't be reasoned with. They want us all dead. Look at what getting out of Iraq has done. It's just made things worse. No one over there can be trusted. We have helped the Iraqis with weapons and training, then many have turned those weapons and training against us. How do you deal with that? You cannot reason with a screwed up idiology. I wish someone knew the answer to resolve this the easy way. The only answer I can think of is annihilate ISIS. |
|
| |
|
BHW Resident Surgeon
Posts: 25352
Location: Bastrop, Texas | Itsme - 2014-09-02 3:05 PM
HotbearLVR - 2014-09-02 2:30 PM
ISIS is our enemy, like it or not. Sooner or later we have to kill them.
The Mujahadin were not our enemies at the time. In fact, they were adversaries against our Cold War ally, the Soviet Union. Big difference.
Our enemy that we funded and armed?
This is correct...we funded and armed the Mujahadin back in the 80's after the Soviets invaded Afghanistan. It actually worked and drove them out. up until then they were not our enemies. That came later after the Taliban and Al Queda got control and ousted the Northern Alliance. |
|
| |
|
BHW Resident Surgeon
Posts: 25352
Location: Bastrop, Texas | There are a number of terrorist groups vying for the position of top dog in the Middle East. Yes, they are fighting amongst themselves, but I don't think we can afford to stand by and let them become more emboldened, while they continue to slaughter innocent people.....keeping in mind their ultimate goal is to slaughter us. Time to throw down. |
|
| |
|
Hawty & Nawty
Posts: 20424
| HotbearLVR - 2014-09-03 1:15 PM There are a number of terrorist groups vying for the position of top dog in the Middle East. Yes, they are fighting amongst themselves, but I don't think we can afford to stand by and let them become more emboldened, while they continue to slaughter innocent people.....keeping in mind their ultimate goal is to slaughter us. Time to throw down.
Scott is right. |
|
| |
|
Expert
Posts: 1561
| I dont think throwing down is called for, I think throwing every last one of them out of this country is a good place to start. |
|
| |
|
BHW Resident Surgeon
Posts: 25352
Location: Bastrop, Texas | Itsme - 2014-09-02 3:20 PM
I dont think throwing down is called for, I think throwing every last one of them out of this country is a good place to start.
How do you do that? Throw all Arabs out? Throw all Muslims out? |
|
| |
|
Knowledge is Power
Posts: 4051
Location: wherever my daughter's running | rodeomom13 - 2014-09-02 3:48 PM This deal is so screwed up, we are fighting and idiology that no one understands. Obama thinks he can stomp his foot, point his finger and say "stop that you meany heads". It ain't gonna work that way. They don't play by the rules. He of all people should understand that.... The only way to stop them is kill them all. One way to prevent them from getting us on our own soil is to close the d@mn border!!!
Agreed about the boarders. I live in rural town far, far away from the Mexican boarder. Our governor made a formal request that she be notified if any illegals were going to be housed here. Well come to find out 321 were already here somewhere. School just started here last week. Have a friend who is a teacher, high school not elementary, she has one entire clss of high school studnets that speak no english at all. Where did they come from? Who knows who else is walking on to our soli daily. I am not an alarmist - but never - ever - ever in my 50 plus years have I seen such a mess. President, big government, little government I don't care - someone (other than terriost) has got to take charge. |
|
| |
|
Expert
Posts: 4121
Location: SE Louisiana | rodeomom13 - 2014-09-02 3:10 PM
komet. - 2014-09-02 2:01 PM HotbearLVR - 2014-09-02 2:42 PM komet. - 2014-09-02 2:34 PM HotbearLVR - 2014-09-02 2:30 PM ISIS is our enemy, like it or not. Sooner or later we have to kill them. The Mujahadin were not our enemies at the time. In fact, they were adversaries against our Cold War ally, the Soviet Union. Big difference. YES!! That's my point!!! As soon as the USSR pulled out WE became the bad guy!!! Let the Muslims solve their OWN PROBLEMS FROM NOW ON... As you like to say. It's a domestic affair.... None of our business!! It's not a domestic affair. It is an international affair involving the entire Middle East, especially Syria and Iraq, but if their dream of a caliphate becomes reality, you can rest assured they will turn their focus on the western world. What do you think they intend to do about the "big Satan"? Just like Bin Laden warned us he was coming after us and made no distinction between military and civilian targets, these people have warned us. If you don't believe they are a threat to the world, then I have a bridge in Brooklyn I'd love to sell you real cheap. Judging from the way they slaughtered all those Christian-Arabs and Kurds, do you seriously think they will leave us alone under any circumstances? They need to be hunted down and vaporized. In case you have not been paying attention. The Muslims in the Middle East want to deal with their own problems.... I say let them!! If they lose all control then we can step in again IF they want help. If you and Rodeomom want to kill them so bad... Grab your guns and get over there!!
I'm NOT missing the point you two want to send our troops back into that mess.... I think our country has spent enough money and shed enough blood for people that just turn around and spit in our face afterward. They might look almost the same coming across the border to Mexico but as soon as they open their mouth and say something it will become clear they are not. They can't infiltrate Mexico without Mexico knowing it. Mexico ain't gonna let that happen. From the honest Mexicans to the drug cartels, they know where their money comes from and they will not look kindly upon terrorists going after their friends/neighbors/customers. Can you imagine what our government would do if they found out Mexico was helping terrorists enter this country? Do you not think Mexico knows this? |
|
| |
|
Expert
Posts: 1561
| HotbearLVR - 2014-09-02 3:24 PM
Itsme - 2014-09-02 3:20 PM
I dont think throwing down is called for, I think throwing every last one of them out of this country is a good place to start.
How do you do that? Throw all Arabs out? Throw all Muslims out?
 |
|
| |
|
Hawty & Nawty
Posts: 20424
| I'd rather not lay all my huevos in a Mexican basket. Meaning. I don't trust them either. You're asking me to trust a country that has no problems breaking American Law. Terrosit have money. That's all that's needed. |
|
| |
|
BHW Resident Surgeon
Posts: 25352
Location: Bastrop, Texas | komet. - 2014-09-02 3:28 PM
rodeomom13 - 2014-09-02 3:10 PM
komet. - 2014-09-02 2:01 PM HotbearLVR - 2014-09-02 2:42 PM komet. - 2014-09-02 2:34 PM HotbearLVR - 2014-09-02 2:30 PM ISIS is our enemy, like it or not. Sooner or later we have to kill them. The Mujahadin were not our enemies at the time. In fact, they were adversaries against our Cold War ally, the Soviet Union. Big difference. YES!! That's my point!!! As soon as the USSR pulled out WE became the bad guy!!! Let the Muslims solve their OWN PROBLEMS FROM NOW ON... As you like to say. It's a domestic affair.... None of our business!! It's not a domestic affair. It is an international affair involving the entire Middle East, especially Syria and Iraq, but if their dream of a caliphate becomes reality, you can rest assured they will turn their focus on the western world. What do you think they intend to do about the "big Satan"? Just like Bin Laden warned us he was coming after us and made no distinction between military and civilian targets, these people have warned us. If you don't believe they are a threat to the world, then I have a bridge in Brooklyn I'd love to sell you real cheap. Judging from the way they slaughtered all those Christian-Arabs and Kurds, do you seriously think they will leave us alone under any circumstances? They need to be hunted down and vaporized. In case you have not been paying attention. The Muslims in the Middle East want to deal with their own problems.... I say let them!! If they lose all control then we can step in again IF they want help. If you and Rodeomom want to kill them so bad... Grab your guns and get over there!!
I'm NOT missing the point you two want to send our troops back into that mess.... I think our country has spent enough money and shed enough blood for people that just turn around and spit in our face afterward. They might look almost the same coming across the border to Mexico but as soon as they open their mouth and say something it will become clear they are not. They can't infiltrate Mexico without Mexico knowing it. Mexico ain't gonna let that happen. From the honest Mexicans to the drug cartels, they know where their money comes from and they will not look kindly upon terrorists going after their friends/neighbors/customers. Can you imagine what our government would do if they found out Mexico was helping terrorists enter this country? Do you not think Mexico knows this?
It sounds to me like you feel confident that we can rely on Mexico and the cartels to keep the terrorists out. If this were just a matter of helping a country in the Middle East, I can understand the idea of isolationism, but as far as I am concerned we are at war with these people and ultimately this will boil down to our own survival. We really don't have a choice. Sadly, our blood will be spilled over this sooner or later. |
|
| |
|
Miracle in the Making
Posts: 4013
| komet. - 2014-09-02 3:34 PM HotbearLVR - 2014-09-02 2:30 PM ISIS is our enemy, like it or not. Sooner or later we have to kill them. The Mujahadin were not our enemies at the time. In fact, they were adversaries against our Cold War ally, the Soviet Union. Big difference. YES!! That's my point!!! As soon as the USSR pulled out WE became the bad guy!!! Let the Muslims solve their OWN PROBLEMS FROM NOW ON... As you like to say. It's a domestic affair.... None of our business!!
I totally agree but we need to quit giving them anything shore up our borders cause they are coming here |
|
| |
|
BHW Resident Surgeon
Posts: 25352
Location: Bastrop, Texas | Itsme - 2014-09-02 3:38 PM
HotbearLVR - 2014-09-02 3:24 PM
Itsme - 2014-09-02 3:20 PM
I dont think throwing down is called for, I think throwing every last one of them out of this country is a good place to start.
How do you do that? Throw all Arabs out? Throw all Muslims out?
I'm of Arab descent.....should I be thrown out?
Are you familiar with what happened to the Japanese in this country after the outbreak of WWII? |
|
| |
|
Hawty & Nawty
Posts: 20424
| Not only are they coming here, they are attracting kids. I'll see if I can find the link. |
|
| |
|
Expert
Posts: 1561
| HotbearLVR - 2014-09-02 3:46 PM
Itsme - 2014-09-02 3:38 PM
HotbearLVR - 2014-09-02 3:24 PM
Itsme - 2014-09-02 3:20 PM
I dont think throwing down is called for, I think throwing every last one of them out of this country is a good place to start.
How do you do that? Throw all Arabs out? Throw all Muslims out?
I'm of Arab descent.....should I be thrown out?
Are you familiar with what happened to the Japanese in this country after the outbreak of WWII?
If youre a practicing muslim, yes. |
|
| |
|
BHW Resident Surgeon
Posts: 25352
Location: Bastrop, Texas | Also, we don't have to necessarily throw our ground troops into that mess. We can arm the Kurds, and more lend air support. I think ISIS has their hands full with enemies right there in the Middle East. We might have to use ground forces or special ops, which are probably already there anyway. |
|
| |
|
BHW Resident Surgeon
Posts: 25352
Location: Bastrop, Texas | Itsme - 2014-09-02 3:47 PM
HotbearLVR - 2014-09-02 3:46 PM
Itsme - 2014-09-02 3:38 PM
HotbearLVR - 2014-09-02 3:24 PM
Itsme - 2014-09-02 3:20 PM
I dont think throwing down is called for, I think throwing every last one of them out of this country is a good place to start.
How do you do that? Throw all Arabs out? Throw all Muslims out?
I'm of Arab descent.....should I be thrown out?
Are you familiar with what happened to the Japanese in this country after the outbreak of WWII?
If youre a practicing muslim, yes.
No I'm not. I'm Christian, but my grandfather was Muslim and he immigrated here in 1910. I'm 1/2 Lebanese. Do we kick all African American Muslims out? My point is. Don't think we need to make some wide sweep and clear out all Muslims....that is called bigotry. |
|
| |
|
Expert
Posts: 4121
Location: SE Louisiana | HotbearLVR - 2014-09-02 3:43 PM
komet. - 2014-09-02 3:28 PM
rodeomom13 - 2014-09-02 3:10 PM
komet. - 2014-09-02 2:01 PM HotbearLVR - 2014-09-02 2:42 PM komet. - 2014-09-02 2:34 PM HotbearLVR - 2014-09-02 2:30 PM ISIS is our enemy, like it or not. Sooner or later we have to kill them. The Mujahadin were not our enemies at the time. In fact, they were adversaries against our Cold War ally, the Soviet Union. Big difference. YES!! That's my point!!! As soon as the USSR pulled out WE became the bad guy!!! Let the Muslims solve their OWN PROBLEMS FROM NOW ON... As you like to say. It's a domestic affair.... None of our business!! It's not a domestic affair. It is an international affair involving the entire Middle East, especially Syria and Iraq, but if their dream of a caliphate becomes reality, you can rest assured they will turn their focus on the western world. What do you think they intend to do about the "big Satan"? Just like Bin Laden warned us he was coming after us and made no distinction between military and civilian targets, these people have warned us. If you don't believe they are a threat to the world, then I have a bridge in Brooklyn I'd love to sell you real cheap. Judging from the way they slaughtered all those Christian-Arabs and Kurds, do you seriously think they will leave us alone under any circumstances? They need to be hunted down and vaporized. In case you have not been paying attention. The Muslims in the Middle East want to deal with their own problems.... I say let them!! If they lose all control then we can step in again IF they want help. If you and Rodeomom want to kill them so bad... Grab your guns and get over there!!
I'm NOT missing the point you two want to send our troops back into that mess.... I think our country has spent enough money and shed enough blood for people that just turn around and spit in our face afterward. They might look almost the same coming across the border to Mexico but as soon as they open their mouth and say something it will become clear they are not. They can't infiltrate Mexico without Mexico knowing it. Mexico ain't gonna let that happen. From the honest Mexicans to the drug cartels, they know where their money comes from and they will not look kindly upon terrorists going after their friends/neighbors/customers. Can you imagine what our government would do if they found out Mexico was helping terrorists enter this country? Do you not think Mexico knows this?
It sounds to me like you feel confident that we can rely on Mexico and the cartels to keep the terrorists out. If this were just a matter of helping a country in the Middle East, I can understand the idea of isolationism, but as far as I am concerned we are at war with these people and ultimately this will boil down to our own survival. We really don't have a choice. Sadly, our blood will be spilled over this sooner or later.
I am confident Mexico will act in our best interests where Terrorists are concerned. After all, an attack on us is also an attack on all the Mexicans here sending money back to Mexico. As far as the cartels go, This is where most of their cash comes from. It's not like the terrorists can just waltz across Mexico and cross our border.. No more than they can do that in Canada.. We only have two borders and those countries depend greatly on this country for their livelihoods. We do not stand alone in North America. Can some get through? SURE!! But en-mass?? Nope.. Remember all the 9/11 terrorists flew right into our cities from other places.. |
|
| |
|
Nut Case Expert
Posts: 9305
Location: Tulsa, Ok | So someone tell me what the solution is. Is there anything short of turning the Middle East into a parking lot that will guarantee a solution? Any thoughts as to the collateral damage (a few zillion dead innocent bystanders)? |
|
| |
|
Expert
Posts: 1561
| HotbearLVR - 2014-09-02 3:54 PM
Itsme - 2014-09-02 3:47 PM
HotbearLVR - 2014-09-02 3:46 PM
Itsme - 2014-09-02 3:38 PM
HotbearLVR - 2014-09-02 3:24 PM
Itsme - 2014-09-02 3:20 PM
I dont think throwing down is called for, I think throwing every last one of them out of this country is a good place to start.
How do you do that? Throw all Arabs out? Throw all Muslims out?
I'm of Arab descent.....should I be thrown out?
Are you familiar with what happened to the Japanese in this country after the outbreak of WWII?
If youre a practicing muslim, yes.
No I'm not. I'm Christian, but my grandfather was Muslim and he immigrated here in 1910. I'm 1/2 Lebanese. Do we kick all African American Muslims out? My point is. Don't think we need to make some wide sweep and clear out all Muslims....that is called bigotry.
I do believe we all originated from over there, no?
And Im fine with being called a bigot, better that than a dead flower child and until they condemn "their own" people they should be shipped back. Didnt we all see the video with the lady talking about the "silent majority"? If not ill post it tomorrow.
Take a look at Europe and the hell they are causing over there with the small percentages they have.
Im out until later tonight or tomorrow... |
|
| |
|
"Heck's Coming With Me"
Posts: 10797
Location: Kansas | Plainly some of you have been missing the threats ISIS is making toward the U.S and American interests all over the world. Their plan is global domination.
|
|
| |
|
BHW Resident Surgeon
Posts: 25352
Location: Bastrop, Texas | Itsme - 2014-09-02 4:05 PM
HotbearLVR - 2014-09-02 3:54 PM
Itsme - 2014-09-02 3:47 PM
HotbearLVR - 2014-09-02 3:46 PM
Itsme - 2014-09-02 3:38 PM
HotbearLVR - 2014-09-02 3:24 PM
Itsme - 2014-09-02 3:20 PM
I dont think throwing down is called for, I think throwing every last one of them out of this country is a good place to start.
How do you do that? Throw all Arabs out? Throw all Muslims out?
I'm of Arab descent.....should I be thrown out?
Are you familiar with what happened to the Japanese in this country after the outbreak of WWII?
If youre a practicing muslim, yes.
No I'm not. I'm Christian, but my grandfather was Muslim and he immigrated here in 1910. I'm 1/2 Lebanese. Do we kick all African American Muslims out? My point is. Don't think we need to make some wide sweep and clear out all Muslims....that is called bigotry.
I do believe we all originated from over there, no?
And Im fine with being called a bigot, better that than a dead flower child and until they condemn "their own" people they should be shipped back. Didnt we all see the video with the lady talking about the "silent majority"? If not ill post it tomorrow.
Take a look at Europe and the hell they are causing over there with the small percentages they have.
Im out until later tonight or tomorrow...
I understand what you are saying, and I honestly don't think you are a bigot. We can deal with this without stooping to THEIR level. For one thing, we don't have to allow people from the Middle East into this country. We don't have to take thousands of Somali refugees either. I would dump that in the lap of the UN. They aren't doing anything anyway. Let them sort it out, for a change. |
|
| |
|
BHW Resident Surgeon
Posts: 25352
Location: Bastrop, Texas | SC Wrangler - 2014-09-02 4:05 PM
So someone tell me what the solution is. Is there anything short of turning the Middle East into a parking lot that will guarantee a solution? Any thoughts as to the collateral damage (a few zillion dead innocent bystanders)?
If we don't mobilize the world and get after this now, then that could very well happen. If we had a leader who had balls and was resolute, there's a good chance that a REAL coalition could be established to hunt these bastards down and eliminate them. George HW Bush did it when the threat to the civilized world was far less back then. Now the threat can't be denied. We need a leader to go to work for us. |
|
| |
|
Expert
Posts: 4121
Location: SE Louisiana | Frodo - 2014-09-02 4:08 PM
Plainly some of you have been missing the threats ISIS is making toward the U.S and American interests all over the world. Their plan is global domination.
Megalomaniacs have come and gone all through history... These people will never get off the ground..
Edited by komet. 2014-09-02 4:24 PM
|
|
| |
|
Expert
Posts: 4121
Location: SE Louisiana | Itsme - 2014-09-02 4:05 PM
HotbearLVR - 2014-09-02 3:54 PM
Itsme - 2014-09-02 3:47 PM
HotbearLVR - 2014-09-02 3:46 PM
Itsme - 2014-09-02 3:38 PM
HotbearLVR - 2014-09-02 3:24 PM
Itsme - 2014-09-02 3:20 PM
I dont think throwing down is called for, I think throwing every last one of them out of this country is a good place to start.
How do you do that? Throw all Arabs out? Throw all Muslims out?
I'm of Arab descent.....should I be thrown out?
Are you familiar with what happened to the Japanese in this country after the outbreak of WWII?
If youre a practicing muslim, yes.
No I'm not. I'm Christian, but my grandfather was Muslim and he immigrated here in 1910. I'm 1/2 Lebanese. Do we kick all African American Muslims out? My point is. Don't think we need to make some wide sweep and clear out all Muslims....that is called bigotry.
I do believe we all originated from over there, no?
And Im fine with being called a bigot, better that than a dead flower child and until they condemn "their own" people they should be shipped back. Didnt we all see the video with the lady talking about the "silent majority"? If not ill post it tomorrow.
Take a look at Europe and the hell they are causing over there with the small percentages they have.
Im out until later tonight or tomorrow...
I don't believe everyone originated there either... Certainly the Aboriginals from central and south America as well as Austrailia did not. I have doubts about the Africans as well.. |
|
| |
|
I'm not opinionated
Posts: 4597
Location: Online | komet. - 2014-09-02 2:28 PM rodeomom13 - 2014-09-02 3:10 PM komet. - 2014-09-02 2:01 PM HotbearLVR - 2014-09-02 2:42 PM komet. - 2014-09-02 2:34 PM HotbearLVR - 2014-09-02 2:30 PM ISIS is our enemy, like it or not. Sooner or later we have to kill them. The Mujahadin were not our enemies at the time. In fact, they were adversaries against our Cold War ally, the Soviet Union. Big difference. YES!! That's my point!!! As soon as the USSR pulled out WE became the bad guy!!! Let the Muslims solve their OWN PROBLEMS FROM NOW ON... As you like to say. It's a domestic affair.... None of our business!! It's not a domestic affair. It is an international affair involving the entire Middle East, especially Syria and Iraq, but if their dream of a caliphate becomes reality, you can rest assured they will turn their focus on the western world. What do you think they intend to do about the "big Satan"? Just like Bin Laden warned us he was coming after us and made no distinction between military and civilian targets, these people have warned us. If you don't believe they are a threat to the world, then I have a bridge in Brooklyn I'd love to sell you real cheap. Judging from the way they slaughtered all those Christian-Arabs and Kurds, do you seriously think they will leave us alone under any circumstances? They need to be hunted down and vaporized. In case you have not been paying attention. The Muslims in the Middle East want to deal with their own problems.... I say let them!! If they lose all control then we can step in again IF they want help. If you and Rodeomom want to kill them so bad... Grab your guns and get over there!! I'm NOT missing the point you two want to send our troops back into that mess.... I think our country has spent enough money and shed enough blood for people that just turn around and spit in our face afterward. They might look almost the same coming across the border to Mexico but as soon as they open their mouth and say something it will become clear they are not. They can't infiltrate Mexico without Mexico knowing it. Mexico ain't gonna let that happen. From the honest Mexicans to the drug cartels, they know where their money comes from and they will not look kindly upon terrorists going after their friends/neighbors/customers. Can you imagine what our government would do if they found out Mexico was helping terrorists enter this country? Do you not think Mexico knows this?
Hell no I do not want to send troops back to that hell hole. I just think that may be the only solution. They want to kill us, they want to annihilate the USA, and we cannot trust Mexico. Money talks, and they will give in to the highest bidder. If the terrorists show up with cash and promises, we're screwed. They already have one of our Marines over a border misunderstanding, (but that's a different story entirely) what makes you think they give a rat's ass about the US? Hell, our own President doesn't give a rat's ass about us either. He has known about ISIS for over a year. He has no solution. He has done nothing but whine and complain about Republicans hurting his feeling and white cops killing black kids.
Do you honestly think that if we pulled everyone out, all Americans, just look the other way, we let them kill the ones they have captive that will solve the problem? |
|
| |
|
Expert
Posts: 4121
Location: SE Louisiana | rodeomom13 - 2014-09-02 4:29 PM
komet. - 2014-09-02 2:28 PM rodeomom13 - 2014-09-02 3:10 PM komet. - 2014-09-02 2:01 PM HotbearLVR - 2014-09-02 2:42 PM komet. - 2014-09-02 2:34 PM HotbearLVR - 2014-09-02 2:30 PM ISIS is our enemy, like it or not. Sooner or later we have to kill them. The Mujahadin were not our enemies at the time. In fact, they were adversaries against our Cold War ally, the Soviet Union. Big difference. YES!! That's my point!!! As soon as the USSR pulled out WE became the bad guy!!! Let the Muslims solve their OWN PROBLEMS FROM NOW ON... As you like to say. It's a domestic affair.... None of our business!! It's not a domestic affair. It is an international affair involving the entire Middle East, especially Syria and Iraq, but if their dream of a caliphate becomes reality, you can rest assured they will turn their focus on the western world. What do you think they intend to do about the "big Satan"? Just like Bin Laden warned us he was coming after us and made no distinction between military and civilian targets, these people have warned us. If you don't believe they are a threat to the world, then I have a bridge in Brooklyn I'd love to sell you real cheap. Judging from the way they slaughtered all those Christian-Arabs and Kurds, do you seriously think they will leave us alone under any circumstances? They need to be hunted down and vaporized. In case you have not been paying attention. The Muslims in the Middle East want to deal with their own problems.... I say let them!! If they lose all control then we can step in again IF they want help. If you and Rodeomom want to kill them so bad... Grab your guns and get over there!! I'm NOT missing the point you two want to send our troops back into that mess.... I think our country has spent enough money and shed enough blood for people that just turn around and spit in our face afterward. They might look almost the same coming across the border to Mexico but as soon as they open their mouth and say something it will become clear they are not. They can't infiltrate Mexico without Mexico knowing it. Mexico ain't gonna let that happen. From the honest Mexicans to the drug cartels, they know where their money comes from and they will not look kindly upon terrorists going after their friends/neighbors/customers. Can you imagine what our government would do if they found out Mexico was helping terrorists enter this country? Do you not think Mexico knows this?
Do you honestly think that if we pulled everyone out, all Americans, just look the other way, we let them kill the ones they have captive that will solve the problem?
You have heard nothing I've said... You have no argument to sustain your wild beliefs.. The terrorists could not possibly show them even as much as they make in a day from money coming out of this country. The Mexican government knows good and well if we ever found out they turned a blind eye to terrorists or helped them enter the USA from Mexico it would mean a war they could not possibly hope to win.
Edited by komet. 2014-09-02 4:38 PM
|
|
| |
|
 Expert
Posts: 2457
| komet. - 2014-09-02 4:23 PM
Frodo - 2014-09-02 4:08 PM
Plainly some of you have been missing the threats ISIS is making toward the U.S and American interests all over the world. Their plan is global domination.
Megalomaniacs have come and gone all through history... These people will never get off the ground..
Being a devil's advocate here .... but didn't "someone" step in to confront and stop the threats. Thus, they never really made it off the ground?
I think ISIS has already made some MAJOR plays by killing people - also, didn't Switzerland and France pay ISIS for prisoners? As long as they continue that mess, ISIS will be funded and continue their upward momentum.
Just saying .... |
|
| |
|
BHW Resident Surgeon
Posts: 25352
Location: Bastrop, Texas | komet. - 2014-09-02 4:37 PM
rodeomom13 - 2014-09-02 4:29 PM
komet. - 2014-09-02 2:28 PM rodeomom13 - 2014-09-02 3:10 PM komet. - 2014-09-02 2:01 PM HotbearLVR - 2014-09-02 2:42 PM komet. - 2014-09-02 2:34 PM HotbearLVR - 2014-09-02 2:30 PM ISIS is our enemy, like it or not. Sooner or later we have to kill them. The Mujahadin were not our enemies at the time. In fact, they were adversaries against our Cold War ally, the Soviet Union. Big difference. YES!! That's my point!!! As soon as the USSR pulled out WE became the bad guy!!! Let the Muslims solve their OWN PROBLEMS FROM NOW ON... As you like to say. It's a domestic affair.... None of our business!! It's not a domestic affair. It is an international affair involving the entire Middle East, especially Syria and Iraq, but if their dream of a caliphate becomes reality, you can rest assured they will turn their focus on the western world. What do you think they intend to do about the "big Satan"? Just like Bin Laden warned us he was coming after us and made no distinction between military and civilian targets, these people have warned us. If you don't believe they are a threat to the world, then I have a bridge in Brooklyn I'd love to sell you real cheap. Judging from the way they slaughtered all those Christian-Arabs and Kurds, do you seriously think they will leave us alone under any circumstances? They need to be hunted down and vaporized. In case you have not been paying attention. The Muslims in the Middle East want to deal with their own problems.... I say let them!! If they lose all control then we can step in again IF they want help. If you and Rodeomom want to kill them so bad... Grab your guns and get over there!! I'm NOT missing the point you two want to send our troops back into that mess.... I think our country has spent enough money and shed enough blood for people that just turn around and spit in our face afterward. They might look almost the same coming across the border to Mexico but as soon as they open their mouth and say something it will become clear they are not. They can't infiltrate Mexico without Mexico knowing it. Mexico ain't gonna let that happen. From the honest Mexicans to the drug cartels, they know where their money comes from and they will not look kindly upon terrorists going after their friends/neighbors/customers. Can you imagine what our government would do if they found out Mexico was helping terrorists enter this country? Do you not think Mexico knows this?
Do you honestly think that if we pulled everyone out, all Americans, just look the other way, we let them kill the ones they have captive that will solve the problem?
You have heard nothing I've said... You have no argument to sustain your wild beliefs.. The terrorists could not possibly show them even as much as they make in a day from money coming out of this country. The Mexican government knows good and well if we ever found out they turned a blind eye to terrorists or helped them enter the USA from Mexico it would mean a war they could not possibly hope to win.
I don't see anything wild about her comments whatsoever. Are you suggesting terrorists couldn't enter this country through our porous southern border? Do you think it's possible that a number of them already have?
|
|
| |
|
BHW Resident Surgeon
Posts: 25352
Location: Bastrop, Texas | komet. - 2014-09-02 4:23 PM
Frodo - 2014-09-02 4:08 PM
Plainly some of you have been missing the threats ISIS is making toward the U.S and American interests all over the world. Their plan is global domination.
Megalomaniacs have come and gone all through history... These people will never get off the ground..
You are joking, right? Ummmmm......Adolf Hitler was a megalomaniac! was he not? The war he waged cost about 60 million lives.....and you say he never got off the ground? Better think again. |
|
| |
|
Expert
Posts: 4121
Location: SE Louisiana | lindseylou2290 - 2014-09-02 4:44 PM
komet. - 2014-09-02 4:23 PM
Frodo - 2014-09-02 4:08 PM
Plainly some of you have been missing the threats ISIS is making toward the U.S and American interests all over the world. Their plan is global domination.
Megalomaniacs have come and gone all through history... These people will never get off the ground..
Being a devil's advocate here .... but didn't "someone" step in to confront and stop the threats. Thus, they never really made it off the ground?
I think ISIS has already made some MAJOR plays by killing people - also, didn't Switzerland and France pay ISIS for prisoners? As long as they continue that mess, ISIS will be funded and continue their upward momentum.
Just saying ....
Well... Don't get me started on France... I don't know about the Swiss.. Our long standing policy, and I believe the correct one, is to not deal with terrorists.. Do it once and it opens the door. We see proof of that when Obozo made that trade, 5 for 1, and I think that's why the pressure is being put on NOW! They think we will fold again and as long as that simpleton is in control we prolly will!! As long as the media disregards the warnings and puts themselves in harms way, the terrorists will continue snapping them up as leverage. |
|
| |
|
Expert
Posts: 4121
Location: SE Louisiana | HotbearLVR - 2014-09-02 4:49 PM
komet. - 2014-09-02 4:23 PM
Frodo - 2014-09-02 4:08 PM
Plainly some of you have been missing the threats ISIS is making toward the U.S and American interests all over the world. Their plan is global domination.
Megalomaniacs have come and gone all through history... These people will never get off the ground..
You are joking, right? Ummmmm......Adolf Hitler was a megalomaniac! was he not? The war he waged cost about 60 million lives.....and you say he never got off the ground? Better think again.
Quit being so obtuse Doc.... I was talking about ISIS... Not Hitler.. |
|
| |
|
Hawty & Nawty
Posts: 20424
| The timing is interesting. I mean, we let five ashats free and now this. We could always just start going eye for an eye at Gutanamo. |
|
| |
|
BHW Resident Surgeon
Posts: 25352
Location: Bastrop, Texas | komet. - 2014-09-02 4:54 PM
HotbearLVR - 2014-09-02 4:49 PM
komet. - 2014-09-02 4:23 PM
Frodo - 2014-09-02 4:08 PM
Plainly some of you have been missing the threats ISIS is making toward the U.S and American interests all over the world. Their plan is global domination.
Megalomaniacs have come and gone all through history... These people will never get off the ground..
You are joking, right? Ummmmm......Adolf Hitler was a megalomaniac! was he not? The war he waged cost about 60 million lives.....and you say he never got off the ground? Better think again.
Quit being so obtuse Doc.... I was talking about ISIS... Not Hitler..
I was the opposite of obtuse. You said megalomaniacs have come and gone throughout history, and I say that's correct, and added that just because they "come and go" doesn't mean they can't exact ruination and kill millions in the process. Hitler was a genocidal maniac, and so is ISIS. The world can't stand by and watch this, particularly when ISIS is telling us their ultimate aim. What do you want to wait for?
Obtuse implies I am stupid or don't care....in fact, it's quite the opposite. |
|
| |
|
Expert
Posts: 4121
Location: SE Louisiana | HotbearLVR - 2014-09-02 4:46 PM
komet. - 2014-09-02 4:37 PM
rodeomom13 - 2014-09-02 4:29 PM
komet. - 2014-09-02 2:28 PM rodeomom13 - 2014-09-02 3:10 PM komet. - 2014-09-02 2:01 PM HotbearLVR - 2014-09-02 2:42 PM komet. - 2014-09-02 2:34 PM HotbearLVR - 2014-09-02 2:30 PM ISIS is our enemy, like it or not. Sooner or later we have to kill them. The Mujahadin were not our enemies at the time. In fact, they were adversaries against our Cold War ally, the Soviet Union. Big difference. YES!! That's my point!!! As soon as the USSR pulled out WE became the bad guy!!! Let the Muslims solve their OWN PROBLEMS FROM NOW ON... As you like to say. It's a domestic affair.... None of our business!! It's not a domestic affair. It is an international affair involving the entire Middle East, especially Syria and Iraq, but if their dream of a caliphate becomes reality, you can rest assured they will turn their focus on the western world. What do you think they intend to do about the "big Satan"? Just like Bin Laden warned us he was coming after us and made no distinction between military and civilian targets, these people have warned us. If you don't believe they are a threat to the world, then I have a bridge in Brooklyn I'd love to sell you real cheap. Judging from the way they slaughtered all those Christian-Arabs and Kurds, do you seriously think they will leave us alone under any circumstances? They need to be hunted down and vaporized. In case you have not been paying attention. The Muslims in the Middle East want to deal with their own problems.... I say let them!! If they lose all control then we can step in again IF they want help. If you and Rodeomom want to kill them so bad... Grab your guns and get over there!! I'm NOT missing the point you two want to send our troops back into that mess.... I think our country has spent enough money and shed enough blood for people that just turn around and spit in our face afterward. They might look almost the same coming across the border to Mexico but as soon as they open their mouth and say something it will become clear they are not. They can't infiltrate Mexico without Mexico knowing it. Mexico ain't gonna let that happen. From the honest Mexicans to the drug cartels, they know where their money comes from and they will not look kindly upon terrorists going after their friends/neighbors/customers. Can you imagine what our government would do if they found out Mexico was helping terrorists enter this country? Do you not think Mexico knows this?
Do you honestly think that if we pulled everyone out, all Americans, just look the other way, we let them kill the ones they have captive that will solve the problem?
You have heard nothing I've said... You have no argument to sustain your wild beliefs.. The terrorists could not possibly show them even as much as they make in a day from money coming out of this country. The Mexican government knows good and well if we ever found out they turned a blind eye to terrorists or helped them enter the USA from Mexico it would mean a war they could not possibly hope to win.
I don't see anything wild about her comments whatsoever. Are you suggesting terrorists couldn't enter this country through our porous southern border? Do you think it's possible that a number of them already have?
You have not seen anything I've said either, or you choose to ignore it to make me repeat it.. because you have no argument with merit.. Once again.... The terrorists on 9/11 didn't come in via Mexico... We let them in through our own airports... I know of no terrorist acts committed in this country by people that came in via Mexico... Can it happen? Sure!!!! Has it yet... Not that I'm aware of.. Even tho they still try to fly in.... Do you have any idea how hard it is to move around in Mexico if you are not a citizen? I've heard horror stories about it. I have no doubt some have entered... But not enough to destroy us by any means. |
|
| |
|
Expert
Posts: 4121
Location: SE Louisiana | HotbearLVR - 2014-09-02 5:02 PM
komet. - 2014-09-02 4:54 PM
HotbearLVR - 2014-09-02 4:49 PM
komet. - 2014-09-02 4:23 PM
Frodo - 2014-09-02 4:08 PM
Plainly some of you have been missing the threats ISIS is making toward the U.S and American interests all over the world. Their plan is global domination.
Megalomaniacs have come and gone all through history... These people will never get off the ground..
You are joking, right? Ummmmm......Adolf Hitler was a megalomaniac! was he not? The war he waged cost about 60 million lives.....and you say he never got off the ground? Better think again.
Quit being so obtuse Doc.... I was talking about ISIS... Not Hitler..
I was the opposite of obtuse. You said megalomaniacs have come and gone throughout history, and I say that's correct, and added that just because they "come and go" doesn't mean they can't exact ruination and kill millions in the process. Hitler was a genocidal maniac, and so is ISIS. The world can't stand by and watch this, particularly when ISIS is telling us their ultimate aim. What do you want to wait for?
Obtuse implies I am stupid or don't care....in fact, it's quite the opposite.
No It implies you are deliberately slow to understand I was talking about ISIS.... And there have been a whole lot of megalomaniacs that talked big and never got much done... I believe ISIS to fall under that category. They are walking and talking big now but where are they?? They can't even bring Israel down. They move in the other direction because it is the path of least resistance... There is nothing there!! deserts and sand and some people that can't fight back... They are surrounded by countries that could squash them if they but made the effort... |
|
| |
|
BHW Resident Surgeon
Posts: 25352
Location: Bastrop, Texas | I don't think many people share your optimism that Mexico can secure our southern border, Komet. Maybe I'm wrong, but I consider a porous southern border a threat to our national security and a very realistic potential portal of entry for terrorists. What you are saying is pure supposition. I don't feel comfortable with that. |
|
| |
|
BHW Resident Surgeon
Posts: 25352
Location: Bastrop, Texas | komet. - 2014-09-02 5:17 PM
HotbearLVR - 2014-09-02 5:02 PM
komet. - 2014-09-02 4:54 PM
HotbearLVR - 2014-09-02 4:49 PM
komet. - 2014-09-02 4:23 PM
Frodo - 2014-09-02 4:08 PM
Plainly some of you have been missing the threats ISIS is making toward the U.S and American interests all over the world. Their plan is global domination.
Megalomaniacs have come and gone all through history... These people will never get off the ground..
You are joking, right? Ummmmm......Adolf Hitler was a megalomaniac! was he not? The war he waged cost about 60 million lives.....and you say he never got off the ground? Better think again.
Quit being so obtuse Doc.... I was talking about ISIS... Not Hitler..
I was the opposite of obtuse. You said megalomaniacs have come and gone throughout history, and I say that's correct, and added that just because they "come and go" doesn't mean they can't exact ruination and kill millions in the process. Hitler was a genocidal maniac, and so is ISIS. The world can't stand by and watch this, particularly when ISIS is telling us their ultimate aim. What do you want to wait for?
Obtuse implies I am stupid or don't care....in fact, it's quite the opposite.
No It implies you are deliberately slow to understand I was talking about ISIS.... And there have been a whole lot of megalomaniacs that talked big and never got much done... I believe ISIS to fall under that category. They are walking and talking big now but where are they?? They can't even bring Israel down. They move in the other direction because it is the path of least resistance... There is nothing there!! deserts and sand and some people that can't fight back... They are surrounded by countries that could squash them if they but made the effort...
You are right Komet. No need to worry about ISIS. Let's wait until they bring Israel down! which they haven't done yet, as you astutely pointed out. |
|
| |
|
Expert
Posts: 4121
Location: SE Louisiana | HotbearLVR - 2014-09-02 5:26 PM
I don't think many people share your optimism that Mexico can secure our southern border, Komet. Maybe I'm wrong, but I consider a porous southern border a threat to our national security and a very realistic potential portal of entry for terrorists. What you are saying is pure supposition. I don't feel comfortable with that.
I'm not trusting them to secure our southern border... I'm trusting them secure their Northern border as well as others... We've seen how well they can do THAT! As someone already said, they arrested a marine that accidentally crossed it with a gun. They let Latinos in their southern border and out their northern one because they are just doing what Mexicans themselves are doing.. Looking for a better life. But I very much doubt they would turn a blind eye to Muslim terrorists bent on doing harm. |
|
| |
|
BHW Resident Surgeon
Posts: 25352
Location: Bastrop, Texas | komet. - 2014-09-02 5:37 PM
HotbearLVR - 2014-09-02 5:26 PM
I don't think many people share your optimism that Mexico can secure our southern border, Komet. Maybe I'm wrong, but I consider a porous southern border a threat to our national security and a very realistic potential portal of entry for terrorists. What you are saying is pure supposition. I don't feel comfortable with that.
I'm not trusting them to secure our southern border... I'm trusting them secure their Northern border as well as others... We've seen how well they can do THAT! As someone already said, they arrested a marine that accidentally crossed it with a gun. They let Latinos in their southern border and out their northern one because they are just doing what Mexicans themselves are doing.. Looking for a better life. But I very much doubt they would turn a blind eye to Muslim terrorists bent on doing harm.
Pure supposition based on conjecture. I'm not comfortable with that. That's OK....Komet. You are in good company. Obama referred to ISIS as a "junior varsity" terrorist organization, while his own defense secretary called them the biggest terrorist threat we have ever seen. I don't feel comfortable with this "disconnect". I think our southern border does offer a real opportunity for terrorists to enter this country. I'm not the only one who has this concern. Just because it hasn't been proven that they have entered via our southern border, doesn't mean they can't. These people are not dumb...they are cunning, innovative, evil, and patient. I bet some already have made it into this country this way. |
|
| |
|
 Expert
Posts: 1718
Location: Southeast Louisiana | komet. - 2014-09-02 5:37 PM
HotbearLVR - 2014-09-02 5:26 PM
I don't think many people share your optimism that Mexico can secure our southern border, Komet. Maybe I'm wrong, but I consider a porous southern border a threat to our national security and a very realistic potential portal of entry for terrorists. What you are saying is pure supposition. I don't feel comfortable with that.
I'm not trusting them to secure our southern border... I'm trusting them secure their Northern border as well as others... We've seen how well they can do THAT! As someone already said, they arrested a marine that accidentally crossed it with a gun. They let Latinos in their southern border and out their northern one because they are just doing what Mexicans themselves are doing.. Looking for a better life. But I very much doubt they would turn a blind eye to Muslim terrorists bent on doing harm.
I like reading your point of view on most things, Komet. You always offer a different, well thought out perspective. But, I have to disagree with you here. I don't think the Mexicans care one bit about a person's nationality, religion or intentions. From what I have heard, it's common practice when traveling in Mexico to have something valuable to give to the Mexican police when stopped. I have heard the stories and often wondered if that Marine had known to do it, or had enough to pay them off, if we would have ever heard about it. |
|
| |
|
 I Prefer to Live in Fantasy Land
Posts: 64864
Location: In the Hills of Texas | I really miss the days when there wasn't all of this crap to talk about. I thought as I aged our world would become more peacful. I thought when the cold war ended all was good. I don't like being a fool but I guess I am but my head isn't stuck in the sand at least like it is for so many others. |
|
| |
|
 Famous for Not Complaining
Posts: 8848
Location: Broxton, Ga | Nevertooold - 2014-09-01 6:57 PM I really miss the days when there wasn't all of this crap to talk about. I thought as I aged our world would become more peacful. I thought when the cold war ended all was good. I don't like being a fool but I guess I am but my head isn't stuck in the sand at least like it is for so many others.
NEWPORT, R.I. — If the world seems troubled by all manner of calamities these days, President Obama does not want Americans to worry too much. After all, he said Friday, “The world has always been messy”; it is just more apparent because of social media. And, he added, today’s geopolitical threats are far less perilous than those of the Cold War.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/30/us/politics/obama-decides-to-cut-short-trip-to-new-york-area.html?_r=0 |
|
| |
|
Expert
Posts: 1718
Location: Southeast Louisiana | Nevertooold - 2014-09-02 5:57 PM
I really miss the days when there wasn't all of this crap to talk about. I thought as I aged our world would become more peacful. I thought when the cold war ended all was good. I don't like being a fool but I guess I am but my head isn't stuck in the sand at least like it is for so many others.
It's the big down side to living in the Information Age. Every now and then, I spend a few days just hanging out and doing things at the house, riding, etc. I leave the phone in the house and don't watch the news for a few days. It is sooo peaceful! Until I find out something like there is a hurricane about to enter the gulf and I'm like "when did that happen?!?" LOL. |
|
| |
|
Expert
Posts: 4121
Location: SE Louisiana | Nita - 2014-09-02 5:49 PM
komet. - 2014-09-02 5:37 PM
HotbearLVR - 2014-09-02 5:26 PM
I don't think many people share your optimism that Mexico can secure our southern border, Komet. Maybe I'm wrong, but I consider a porous southern border a threat to our national security and a very realistic potential portal of entry for terrorists. What you are saying is pure supposition. I don't feel comfortable with that.
I'm not trusting them to secure our southern border... I'm trusting them secure their Northern border as well as others... We've seen how well they can do THAT! As someone already said, they arrested a marine that accidentally crossed it with a gun. They let Latinos in their southern border and out their northern one because they are just doing what Mexicans themselves are doing.. Looking for a better life. But I very much doubt they would turn a blind eye to Muslim terrorists bent on doing harm.
I like reading your point of view on most things, Komet. You always offer a different, well thought out perspective. But, I have to disagree with you here. I don't think the Mexicans care one bit about a person's nationality, religion or intentions. From what I have heard, it's common practice when traveling in Mexico to have something valuable to give to the Mexican police when stopped. I have heard the stories and often wondered if that Marine had known to do it, or had enough to pay them off, if we would have ever heard about it.
Yes Bribes are a way of life in Mexico.... I wonder if the threat perspective we have been hearing about is a result of some people being apprehended in Mexico as they were headed north... Unlike some people. I don't listen to what Obozo has to say anymore... The only time I even think about him is to wonder if he wipes his mouth with toilet tissue after he gets done talking. |
|
| |
|
Hawty & Nawty
Posts: 20424
| Eleven Jet Liners are now missing from Libya airport. |
|
| |
|
Expert
Posts: 4121
Location: SE Louisiana | RidenFly - 2014-09-02 6:49 PM
Eleven Jet Liners are now missing from Libya airport.
Great... ever since Obozo engineered the removal of Gadhafi that place has been a mess.... Good to know they are missing tho... The anniversary of 9/11 is coming up too.. |
|
| |
|
I Prefer to Live in Fantasy Land
Posts: 64864
Location: In the Hills of Texas | RidenFly - 2014-09-02 6:49 PM Eleven Jet Liners are now missing from Libya airport.
Well that's real special.
|
|
| |
|
Cold hands and Warm Heart
Location: oklahoma | As far as targeting known terrorists and/ or associates here in the states, why don't we deport them? Our govt knows far more about people than you'd imagine. They tracked the brothers that set the bombs at the boston marathon for a few years, yet they lived off of govt welfare. The sister just got arrested for threatening to kill her boyfriends ex. It's not the blue haired little old ladies killing our Americans. The two Isis members from the u.s. That were killed in Syria last week were living with their counterparts in Minnesota. Always behind the 8 ball and that's why they keep killing our own. |
|
| |
|
 Veteran
Posts: 292
Location: Northeast Nebraska | RidenFly - 2014-09-02 12:26 PM Obama DO something.
obola is doing something. He is fundamentally changing this country to a pisslamic caliphate. He is aiding and abetting our enemy and arming them to the teeth. soetero (or whatever his name is) IS an isil pisslamic terrorist. An insane koranimal. He should be mussolinied. |
|
| |
|
Expert
Posts: 4121
Location: SE Louisiana | CurlyQ - 2014-09-02 8:42 PM
As far as targeting known terrorists and/ or associates here in the states, why don't we deport them? Our govt knows far more about people than you'd imagine. They tracked the brothers that set the bombs at the boston marathon for a few years, yet they lived off of govt welfare. The sister just got arrested for threatening to kill her boyfriends ex. It's not the blue haired little old ladies killing our Americans. The two Isis members from the u.s. That were killed in Syria last week were living with their counterparts in Minnesota. Always behind the 8 ball and that's why they keep killing our own.
...and that borders.... (GASP) Canada!!! |
|
| |
|
BHW Resident Surgeon
Posts: 25352
Location: Bastrop, Texas | Most Somalis have gotten to the US as refugees, dating back to the 90s. Canada had nothing to do with them getting here. The town closest to where I live has a lot of Somalis. They mostly work in the turkey plant. |
|
| |
|
BHW Resident Surgeon
Posts: 25352
Location: Bastrop, Texas | RidenFly - 2014-09-02 6:49 PM
Eleven Jet Liners are now missing from Libya airport.
When was this discovered? I haven't heard anything about this. |
|
| |
|
  Warmblood with Wings
Posts: 27846
Location: Florida.. | Obamas plan all along.. weaken our military.. give our weapons and tanks and planes away, make us poor and then they come over with the Mexicans.. meanwhile he golfs to pretend he doesnt know.. |
|
| |
|
BHW Resident Surgeon
Posts: 25352
Location: Bastrop, Texas | I was looking for something that talks about these missing Libyan jet liners and didn't find anything, but I did run across a couple articles that talk about 20,000 missing Libyan surface-to-air missles. |
|
| |
|
Expert
Posts: 4121
Location: SE Louisiana | HotbearLVR - 2014-09-02 9:22 PM
Most Somalis have gotten to the US as refugees, dating back to the 90s. Canada had nothing to do with them getting here. The town closest to where I live has a lot of Somalis. They mostly work in the turkey plant.
The point is our border with Mexico is miniscule compared to our border with Canada... It would be nothing for a recruiter to fly into Canada.. slip across the border and start soliciting... We have two people from there just in the last week killed fighting for ISIS. What else might come from that bunch? Sounds like ISIS has it's own recruiting ground right there in Minnesota... |
|
| |
|
Expert
Posts: 4121
Location: SE Louisiana | HotbearLVR - 2014-09-02 9:48 PM
I was looking for something that talks about these missing Libyan jet liners and didn't find anything, but I did run across a couple articles that talk about 20,000 missing Libyan surface-to-air missles.
Yeah I don't find anything from a major news source about it either... Just find it mentioned in blogs and Idiot News Sources.... |
|
| |
|
BHW Resident Surgeon
Posts: 25352
Location: Bastrop, Texas | komet. - 2014-09-02 9:51 PM
HotbearLVR - 2014-09-02 9:22 PM
Most Somalis have gotten to the US as refugees, dating back to the 90s. Canada had nothing to do with them getting here. The town closest to where I live has a lot of Somalis. They mostly work in the turkey plant.
The point is our border with Mexico is miniscule compared to our border with Canada... It would be nothing for a recruiter to fly into Canada.. slip across the border and start soliciting... We have two people from there just in the last week killed fighting for ISIS. What else might come from that bunch? Sounds like ISIS has it's own recruiting ground right there in Minnesota...
Yes, it certainly does look like Minneapolis, at least, is fertile ground for terrorist recruits. We give them homes and jobs and a sanctuary away for war torn Somalia, and this is what we get. Another group we have in abundance up here, alongside the Somalis is illegal aliens from Mexico. Interesting mix...perhaps no coincidence. It's no secret. There are many of them. |
|
| |
|
 Proud to be Deplorable
Posts: 1929
| HotbearLVR - 2014-09-02 9:48 PM
I was looking for something that talks about these missing Libyan jet liners and didn't find anything, but I did run across a couple articles that talk about 20,000 missing Libyan surface-to-air missles.
NewsMax is running it. Says the report of 11 missing planes is probably not true. How ever two airbus 360's are missing. |
|
| |
|
Knowledge is Power
Posts: 4051
Location: wherever my daughter's running | Fox News
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/09/02/report-missing-libyan-je...
|
|
| |
|
BHW Resident Surgeon
Posts: 25352
Location: Bastrop, Texas | If those reports are correct, I can see how they could really do some damage somewhere in North Africa or maybe around the Mediterranean, but I highly doubt they are a threat for us here in the US. I'm pretty sure any rogue aircraft approaching the US mainland would be picked up by radar well in advance of their reaching US airspace. Still, if these reports are accurate, I'm sure they would come up with some way to kill as many people as possible. I would think that with satellite imaging they wouldn't be able to hide 12 jetliners all that easily.
One thing for sure is we are dealing with some evil sonsab!tches....almost anything is possible. If you take a step back and really think about it, it's just a matter of time until they do something big and very bad somewhere.
|
|
| |
|
Hawty & Nawty
Posts: 20424
| Overwhelming to think about. One of the ISIS used to pilot for Delta Airlines. Putting it all together is frightening. Don't forget Pakistan lost a couple of planes. |
|
| |
|
BHW Resident Surgeon
Posts: 25352
Location: Bastrop, Texas | A person can think of a lot of scenarios with this bunch having planes and a pilot. The worst possible one would be if they had their hands on one of those "suitcase nukes" that has been missing ever since the fall of the Soviet Union. One of the biggest hurdles in using a nuclear device is the delivery system....like ICBMs. I know this is a doomsday scenario, but what if they had one of those nukes. Now they have planes and pilots. Fly one of those suckers (armed with a nuke) low enough to avoid radar detection and get even close to Israel.....well, that would possibly be the worst disaster in human history.
I know, I know.....I need some tin foil. But, what if?
|
|
| |
|
Knowledge is Power
Posts: 4051
Location: wherever my daughter's running | HotbearLVR - 2014-09-03 9:50 AM A person can think of a lot of scenarios with this bunch having planes and a pilot. The worst possible one would be if they had their hands on one of those "suitcase nukes" that has been missing ever since the fall of the Soviet Union. One of the biggest hurdles in using a nuclear device is the delivery system....like ICBMs. I know this is a doomsday scenario, but what if they had one of those nukes. Now they have planes and pilots. Fly one of those suckers (armed with a nuke) low enough to avoid radar detection and get even close to Israel.....well, that would possibly be the worst disaster in human history.
I know, I know.....I need some tin foil. But, what if?
Don't know that you need a foil hat. :) You seem to remember 9/11. The element of suprise happened then and it can be repeated.
Edited by cruise 2014-09-03 9:30 AM
|
|
| |
|
BHW Resident Surgeon
Posts: 25352
Location: Bastrop, Texas | One of the repeated messages that came out of the 9-11 commission was that there was a "failure of imagination" on our part....meaning CIA, FBI, etc.... I sincerely hope Obama really does realize that we need a real "coalition" to organize and go after these loons and destroy them wherever they are found. |
|
| |
|
"Heck's Coming With Me"
Posts: 10797
Location: Kansas | John McCain opinion on ISIS: "Kill them."
No pussyfootin' around by that VietNam vet. When they're incorrigible and evil what can you do?
|
|
| |
|
Hawty & Nawty
Posts: 20424
| Why does Obama keep refering to them as ISIL? Is this another group or is he that confused or what? |
|
| |
|
Shelter Dog Lover
Posts: 10277
| Frodo - 2014-09-03 12:59 PM John McCain opinion on ISIS: "Kill them."
No pussyfootin' around by that VietNam vet. When they're incorrigible and evil what can you do?
 |
|
| |
|
 Nicknameless
Posts: 4565
Location: I can see the end of the world from here! | RidenFly - 2014-09-03 12:29 PM Why does Obama keep refering to them as ISIL? Is this another group or is he that confused or what?
I saw this on FB...interesting as I've been wondering, too.
http://threepercenternation.com/2014/09/isis-or-isil/
|
|
| |
|
Hawty & Nawty
Posts: 20424
| musikmaker - 2014-09-04 11:38 AM RidenFly - 2014-09-03 12:29 PM Why does Obama keep refering to them as ISIL? Is this another group or is he that confused or what? I saw this on FB...interesting as I've been wondering, too.
http://threepercenternation.com/2014/09/isis-or-isil/
That's just damned dangerous. |
|
| |
|
I'm not opinionated
Posts: 4597
Location: Online | RidenFly - 2014-09-03 1:07 PM musikmaker - 2014-09-04 11:38 AM RidenFly - 2014-09-03 12:29 PM Why does Obama keep refering to them as ISIL? Is this another group or is he that confused or what? I saw this on FB...interesting as I've been wondering, too.
http://threepercenternation.com/2014/09/isis-or-isil/
If this is true, I'm not surprised.
We already know that Obama and other Liberals want Isreal wiped off the map. Something that I will never understand is.... why? Isreal has been one of our greatest allies. What is the deal with the hatred? |
|
| |
|
Cold hands and Warm Heart
Location: oklahoma | rodeomom13 - 2014-09-03 2:20 PM RidenFly - 2014-09-03 1:07 PM musikmaker - 2014-09-04 11:38 AM RidenFly - 2014-09-03 12:29 PM Why does Obama keep refering to them as ISIL? Is this another group or is he that confused or what? I saw this on FB...interesting as I've been wondering, too.
http://threepercenternation.com/2014/09/isis-or-isil/
We already know that Obama and other Liberals want Isreal wiped off the map. Something that I will never understand is.... why? Isreal has been one of our greatest allies. What is the deal with the hatred?
Could it be because the jews of Israel are God's chosen people? |
|
| |
|
Warmblood with Wings
Posts: 27846
Location: Florida.. | " Isreal has been one of our greatest allies"
of the old America.. not the Obama one.. so he doesnt have any use for them.. |
|
| |
|
Expert
Posts: 1561
| These morons just threatened Putin... |
|
| |
|
Expert
Posts: 4121
Location: SE Louisiana | Itsme - 2014-09-03 11:38 PM
These morons just threatened Putin...
Yes they did!!! Sweet!!!!!!!!  
http://www.memri.org/clip/en/0/0/0/0/0/0/4470.htm |
|
| |
|
Industrial Srength Barrel Racer
Posts: 7268
| Frodo - 2014-09-03 12:59 PM
John McCain opinion on ISIS: "Kill them."
No pussyfootin' around by that VietNam vet. When they're incorrigible and evil what can you do?
I agree - everyone is SO worried about killing THEIR innocent, well, let me tell you, there will be innocent killed HERE if we don't act. |
|
| |
|
"Heck's Coming With Me"
Posts: 10797
Location: Kansas | I saw on FOX last night where literally thousands of foreigners here on student visas (supposed to eventually go home right?) have disappeared and are unaccounted for. Our country is so easy to gain a foothold in..... and be funded by our social programs to make life more comfortable for them.
|
|
| |
|
Expert
Posts: 1561
| Enough with McCain, he is a crazy senile old man that needed to retire decades ago. If I remember correctly he didnt think ISIS was a big deal a couple months ago... |
|
| |
|
 Hugs to You
Posts: 7551
Location: In The Land of Cotton | Since everyone seems to think it is okay we have tin foil hats - here is my take -
Even though the planes are missing and so are thousands of "students". I see them taking vehicles marked liked taxis and filling them with homemade bombs. Then at let's say - 10.30 am E bombarding downtown NY or DC. Then at the same time 9.30 am C - doing it in Chicago and so forth all across the US. What a chain reaction and it is not that far fetched.
The FBI, CIA etc, all need to start thinking "outside" of the box on attacks. Where is the reynold's wrap? 
Edited by 3canstorun 2014-09-04 10:12 AM
|
|
| |
|
Industrial Srength Barrel Racer
Posts: 7268
| You KNOW it is just a matter of time before the US is attacked again. I have to wonder if it will be on 9/11 again or not.
I hate to have a foil hat too - but whatever happened to that jet that went down in the ocean - I can just SEE that full of bombs heading over here. That story sort of just faded away....... |
|
| |
|
Expert
Posts: 1561
| Griz - 2014-09-04 11:14 AM
You KNOW it is just a matter of time before the US is attacked again. I have to wonder if it will be on 9/11 again or not.
I hate to have a foil hat too - but whatever happened to that jet that went down in the ocean - I can just SEE that full of bombs heading over here. That story sort of just faded away.......
Its OK to have a tinfoil hat on, just dont let our govt take away our freedoms in the name of safety when in fact its about control of the minions. |
|
| |
|
Industrial Srength Barrel Racer
Posts: 7268
| Itsme - 2014-09-04 11:34 AM Griz - 2014-09-04 11:14 AM You KNOW it is just a matter of time before the US is attacked again. I have to wonder if it will be on 9/11 again or not.
I hate to have a foil hat too - but whatever happened to that jet that went down in the ocean - I can just SEE that full of bombs heading over here. That story sort of just faded away....... Its OK to have a tinfoil hat on, just dont let our govt take away our freedoms in the name of safety when in fact its about control of the minions.
VERY, VERY good point! |
|
| |
|
I'm not opinionated
Posts: 4597
Location: Online | History has a weird way of repeating itself. Especially when we get to thinking we are safe and immune to being attacked. Our arrogance has bit us on the butt repeatedly and I see that arrogance rearing it's ugly head again....... Something to think about. |
|
| |
|
Extreme Veteran
Posts: 448
Location: lone star state | http://madworldnews.com/phil-robertson-plan-isis/ |
|
| |
|
Expert
Posts: 2685
|
I heard him talk about it last night. Love that guys views. |
|
| |
|
"Heck's Coming With Me"
Posts: 10797
Location: Kansas | Griz - 2014-09-04 11:14 AM You KNOW it is just a matter of time before the US is attacked again. I have to wonder if it will be on 9/11 again or not.
I hate to have a foil hat too - but whatever happened to that jet that went down in the ocean - I can just SEE that full of bombs heading over here. That story sort of just faded away.......
My nephew flies Triple Sevens for United Airlines usually to the Middle Eastern countries. He doesn't believe for one minute the Malaysian plane went down in the ocean. He believes it's sitting on a runway "somewhere." He says there's no way possible for it to crash into the ocean and not leave tons of debris. It was an interesting conversation. His fellow pilots agree with him.
|
|
| |
|
Industrial Srength Barrel Racer
Posts: 7268
| Frodo - 2014-09-04 1:08 PM Griz - 2014-09-04 11:14 AM You KNOW it is just a matter of time before the US is attacked again. I have to wonder if it will be on 9/11 again or not.
I hate to have a foil hat too - but whatever happened to that jet that went down in the ocean - I can just SEE that full of bombs heading over here. That story sort of just faded away....... My nephew flies Triple Sevens for United Airlines usually to the Middle Eastern countries. He doesn't believe for one minute the Malaysian plane went down in the ocean. He believes it's sitting on a runway "somewhere." He says there's no way possible for it to crash into the ocean and not leave tons of debris. It was an interesting conversation. His fellow pilots agree with him.
I find it QUITE amusing that little 'ol me could be tracked down just about anywhere in the WORLD through the GPS system on my cell phone - yet they "lost" a 777? I'm not buying it, it flat doesn't make sense. |
|
| |
|
BHW Resident Surgeon
Posts: 25352
Location: Bastrop, Texas | Frodo - 2014-09-04 1:08 PM Griz - 2014-09-04 11:14 AM You KNOW it is just a matter of time before the US is attacked again. I have to wonder if it will be on 9/11 again or not.
I hate to have a foil hat too - but whatever happened to that jet that went down in the ocean - I can just SEE that full of bombs heading over here. That story sort of just faded away....... My nephew flies Triple Sevens for United Airlines usually to the Middle Eastern countries. He doesn't believe for one minute the Malaysian plane went down in the ocean. He believes it's sitting on a runway "somewhere." He says there's no way possible for it to crash into the ocean and not leave tons of debris. It was an interesting conversation. His fellow pilots agree with him.
I agree with him, Frodo. As time goes by, with not one shred of evidence that the plane went down in a crash anywhere, I don't see how you can explain it any way except to say that this plane landed intact somewhere. I just don't understand how this couldn't be located by satellite somewhere. |
|
| |
|
Expert
Posts: 1561
| HotbearLVR - 2014-09-04 1:20 PM
Frodo - 2014-09-04 1:08 PM Griz - 2014-09-04 11:14 AM You KNOW it is just a matter of time before the US is attacked again. I have to wonder if it will be on 9/11 again or not.
I hate to have a foil hat too - but whatever happened to that jet that went down in the ocean - I can just SEE that full of bombs heading over here. That story sort of just faded away....... My nephew flies Triple Sevens for United Airlines usually to the Middle Eastern countries. He doesn't believe for one minute the Malaysian plane went down in the ocean. He believes it's sitting on a runway "somewhere." He says there's no way possible for it to crash into the ocean and not leave tons of debris. It was an interesting conversation. His fellow pilots agree with him.
I know 2 air traffic controllers and they say the same thing. |
|
| |
|
Expert
Posts: 1561
| Now a lady in North London beheaded...
I read some rumors but will wait for more evidence... |
|
| |
|
Expert
Posts: 4121
Location: SE Louisiana | HotbearLVR - 2014-09-04 1:20 PM
Frodo - 2014-09-04 1:08 PM Griz - 2014-09-04 11:14 AM You KNOW it is just a matter of time before the US is attacked again. I have to wonder if it will be on 9/11 again or not.
I hate to have a foil hat too - but whatever happened to that jet that went down in the ocean - I can just SEE that full of bombs heading over here. That story sort of just faded away....... My nephew flies Triple Sevens for United Airlines usually to the Middle Eastern countries. He doesn't believe for one minute the Malaysian plane went down in the ocean. He believes it's sitting on a runway "somewhere." He says there's no way possible for it to crash into the ocean and not leave tons of debris. It was an interesting conversation. His fellow pilots agree with him.
They can read a license plate via satellite.... The problem is they have to know where to look... It's a big world...
Edited by komet. 2014-09-04 6:01 PM
|
|
| |
|
Expert
Posts: 2685
| Somishing to chew on
http://madworldnews.com/isis-insurgents-8-miles-texas/ |
|
| |
|
Hawty & Nawty
Posts: 20424
| The part of me that wants to get histerical is considering letting the kids stay home from school on 911. |
|
| |
|
 Dancing in my Mind
Posts: 3062
Location: Eastern OH but my heart is in WV | RidenFly - 2014-09-04 8:06 PM
The part of me that wants to get histerical is considering letting the kids stay home from school on 911.
I am with you Kelly. I was watching my son sleep the other night and I just started crying. It is a SCARY world out there.
I also wanted to share this: |
|
| |
|
Dancing in my Mind
Posts: 3062
Location: Eastern OH but my heart is in WV | RidenFly - 2014-09-04 8:06 PM
The part of me that wants to get histerical is considering letting the kids stay home from school on 911.
I am with you Kelly. I was watching my son sleep the other night and I just started crying. It is a SCARY world out there.
|
|
| |
|
Industrial Srength Barrel Racer
Posts: 7268
| RidenFly - 2014-09-04 8:06 PM The part of me that wants to get histerical is considering letting the kids stay home from school on 911.
Boy, I don't blame you! I've thought about not going to work - as an aircraft plant could be a good target - guess I am hysterical too. |
|
| |
|
BHW Resident Surgeon
Posts: 25352
Location: Bastrop, Texas |
Gasp! No way this can be true! The Mexican government has everything under control. Surely they wouldn't allow terrorists to infiltrate Mexico or cross the Mexican border. Besides, the border with Canada is much longer. |
|
| |
|
Hawty & Nawty
Posts: 20424
| I have a really hot older sister that takes bi annual vaccays to the Carribean. (I opted for the cowboy. Somedays I wonder) :P anyway, she's at a bar all alone when she is approached by what she described a very nice looking man in a blah blah suit. It had a name but I don't do labels, I'm a walmart kind of girl. So.... they get to talking about this Malasya airline incident. His theory was that they flew the plane very high enough to get the oxygen mask to drop. There's only so much time avail with those mask for passengers but pilots get a bit more. They keep it up there until the oxygen runs out then after everyone passes away they fly the plane down below radar to land it in Pakistan.
My tin foil hat is going to get bedazzled. If I'm going to be certified crazy I'd at least want to still have my bling. |
|
| |
|
I'm not opinionated
Posts: 4597
Location: Online | HotbearLVR - 2014-09-05 6:15 AM Gasp! No way this can be true! The Mexican government has everything under control. Surely they wouldn't allow terrorists to infiltrate Mexico or cross the Mexican border. Besides, the border with Canada is much longer.
Right. The Mexican Cartels won't allow terrorists in Mexico because they make so much money here. They know exactly who is coming into and out of the country. This can't be true. There is no way. What does snopes say about this? |
|
| |
|
BHW Resident Surgeon
Posts: 25352
Location: Bastrop, Texas | rodeomom13 - 2014-09-05 10:57 AM HotbearLVR - 2014-09-05 6:15 AM Gasp! No way this can be true! The Mexican government has everything under control. Surely they wouldn't allow terrorists to infiltrate Mexico or cross the Mexican border. Besides, the border with Canada is much longer.
To be honest with you, I wouldn't be surprised if the CIA doesn't have undercover operatives in place working with the cartels, to see if there is a connection. It would make perfect sense. |
|
| |
|
Veteran
Posts: 292
Location: Northeast Nebraska | HotbearLVR - 2014-09-02 3:24 PM Itsme - 2014-09-02 3:20 PM I dont think throwing down is called for, I think throwing every last one of them out of this country is a good place to start. How do you do that? Throw all Arabs out? Throw all Muslims out?
Throw all koranimals out. They have zero allegiance to any country they happen to be infesting. They are pisslamic first and always. |
|
| |
|
I'm not opinionated
Posts: 4597
Location: Online | HotbearLVR - 2014-09-05 10:08 AM rodeomom13 - 2014-09-05 10:57 AM HotbearLVR - 2014-09-05 6:15 AM Gasp! No way this can be true! The Mexican government has everything under control. Surely they wouldn't allow terrorists to infiltrate Mexico or cross the Mexican border. Besides, the border with Canada is much longer.
I bet there are..... Would be a good idea. |
|
| |
|
Veteran
Posts: 292
Location: Northeast Nebraska | HotbearLVR - 2014-09-02 3:10 PM Itsme - 2014-09-02 3:05 PM HotbearLVR - 2014-09-02 2:30 PM ISIS is our enemy, like it or not. Sooner or later we have to kill them. The Mujahadin were not our enemies at the time. In fact, they were adversaries against our Cold War ally, the Soviet Union. Big difference. Our enemy that we funded and armed? This is correct...we funded and armed the Mujahadin back in the 80's after the Soviets invaded Afghanistan. It actually worked and drove them out. up until then they were not our enemies. That came later after the Taliban and Al Queda got control and ousted the Northern Alliance.
You are wrong. Pisslamics have always been the enemy of human civilization. ALWAYS. And they always will be. Their goal is world domination of pisslam via their bs sharia caliphate 7th century barbarism. |
|
| |
|
BHW Resident Surgeon
Posts: 25352
Location: Bastrop, Texas | GoGaited - 2014-09-05 1:58 PM HotbearLVR - 2014-09-02 3:10 PM Itsme - 2014-09-02 3:05 PM HotbearLVR - 2014-09-02 2:30 PM ISIS is our enemy, like it or not. Sooner or later we have to kill them. The Mujahadin were not our enemies at the time. In fact, they were adversaries against our Cold War ally, the Soviet Union. Big difference. Our enemy that we funded and armed? This is correct...we funded and armed the Mujahadin back in the 80's after the Soviets invaded Afghanistan. It actually worked and drove them out. up until then they were not our enemies. That came later after the Taliban and Al Queda got control and ousted the Northern Alliance.
So what is your solution? Should we just turn the middle east into a glass parking lot? Be realistic. I'm all for hunting down the extermists and eliminating them, but not the majority who do not espouse their extreme views. Should we just "cleanse" the earth of all Muslims? Is that what you are suggesting? |
|
| |
|
Expert
Posts: 1255
| The Mexican boarder is extremely easy to cross .I live on the boarder and the boarder patroll agents spend most of their times parked on secluded roads to sleep and I have to go through check point everyday and they aren't the smartest I've been held at gun point several times for having hay particles on me.I've also had to call for help with illegals and they can't understand how to get out her.I've always wondered what would happen if our boarder's were really threatened . |
|
| |
|
Hawty & Nawty
Posts: 20424
| myhre - 2014-09-08 9:48 AM The Mexican boarder is extremely easy to cross .I live on the boarder and the boarder patroll agents spend most of their times parked on secluded roads to sleep and I have to go through check point everyday and they aren't the smartest I've been held at gun point several times for having hay particles on me.I've also had to call for help with illegals and they can't understand how to get out her.I've always wondered what would happen if our boarder's were really threatened .
Plus, just to add to this...even if they were competent in their jobs, the goverment ties their hands to enforcement anyway. So whats the damn point? They put their lives on the line and for what? Obama just said today he wants to put off the border issues for a couple of months. Just till after the damn elections. The man is PUSS. |
|
| |
Another beheading this time Sotloff.