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Does anyone have a dog or did have dog suffering from seizures? One of my Dachshunds has been having seizures since 2010 but they were many months apart so none of the vets thought medication was necessary, which I agreed. Well, since Aug. 9th my poor girl has had 3 about a week apart.  
I already spoke to one of my specialty vets today and they are sending a referal to a canine neurologist, but for now I want to hear what I am in for. She's almost 8 and in great shape, except for these dang seizure. 
What have been y'all's experiences?  I just keep thinking now she is going to have them constantly. I'm worried about my girl.  
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Isn't that the worst??  I've had two dogs that have had seizures, one was a full border collie and one was a border collie x aussie.  The first one was the same scenario that you described where he went several years with just having them a couple times a year but then, same as yours, he was around 8 or 9 when they started to become more frequent and harder (paddle type).  Put him on potassium bromide and something else that I don't recall at the moment, and that helped him until he died a few years later.  My second one, Katie, had them for about 5 years and would have them about 2-3 times a year and they were more of a tensing up type (not paddling) and not nearly as long.  Never put her on medication and she would have the seizure and then be totally fine and back to normal very quickly.  They are horrible and scary to watch.  I'm sure you know this, but I was told to keep them safe but never restrict or hold them down so I just always held their collar.  Turned the lights down and just made it very quiet and dark if possible.  Good luck to you. 
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My sister had one and she gave him phenobarbital for it everyday and she had valium to give rectally if a seizure lasted over 2 minutes. 
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I had a dalmation that had seizures, she had to be on phenobarbital and absolutely had to have it around the same time everyday. If you gave it an hour or two late, she'd usually have a seizure within a day or two. I believe she started having seizures around 7 years old, may have been earlier. She had to be put down around 14 just because of overall health issues.
I have friends whose pitbull was having mild seizures for years, come to find out it was the frontline they putting on him, which they later found out has reported in several dogs. Just something to think about if you use frontline

Just wanted to add, as already said don't restrict them, but if they are in the house its good to have a towel on hand to put under their head. Our dalmation would always end up banging her head pretty bad on the floor.

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I have a Boston Terrier that has seizures, he was having them very frequently - like weekly. He is on the phenobarb now and has been for awhile (about a year and a half), we have finally figure out the right dosage (did bloodwork this summer to check his organs and found he wasnt getting enough to be theraputic, and he was having several "break through" seizures) and he has not had one for quite awhile. I would highly recommend trying it.
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Many years ago, I had a German Shepherd that had seizures. We determined it was the dog food. Switched his food and he never had them again. The dog food was just plain old Purina Dog Chow.
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My little 5 year old weenie pup has had "episodes" as we call them, since she was 4 months old.  She does not have full gran mal seizures...but she gets anxious and then goes into a phase where her pupils are fully fixed and dialated.  It passes in a few minutes each time.  It's a form of seizure activity and may get worse as she ages.  They became more frequent  (from one a month to one almost weekly) so we put her on a low dose of phenobarbitol.  She hasn't had an eposide in the past 2 months on the medication.  

There are other medications in use now...but pehnobarb at a low dose is inexpensive and if it works well we will keep her on it.  Just have to test for liver issues periodically as the drug is metabolized in the liver.  Not generally an issue at low dosage.  But we may put her on milk thistle or other supplement for liver health.

Doxie's are known for this issue.  It's one of the breeds that has a pretty high incidence.


 
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Thank you all for the replies.    They are very helpful. My girl doesn't have grand mal seizures but like another BB stated her's are pupil dialation and fixation.  They don't last more than a minute maybe a minute and half and when she comes out of them she is back to normal in a few minutes.  Here's the kicker with her, she has had elevated liver enzymes for years so the medication she will go on will have to take that into account.  We had all kinds of tests, ultrasounds and finally a liver biopsy on her back in May, by a liver specialist in Dallas, and he determined that she has no disease and she is in very good shape.  This is the specialis I talked to yesterday and I asked if he would refer us to the neuroligst and he agreed so we can make sure to get the meds correct with her because of the liver issue.  We talked about Keppra, has anyone else used it? He is pretty certain her liver is not causing the seizures.
I am very conservative when it comes to meds(they got all their puppy shots till a year and no more) and preventatives(Heartgard, which has been shown to cause seizures, they only get every other month and not in the winter) for my dogs so I don't think that is an issue and they are all on a raw meat diet.  I have the aunt to this dog and she has never had a seizure.  Even though they are niece and aunt they can't be anymore different.  The seizure girl is VERY active and when we go for our nightly walks she chases our Doberman the ENTIRE time.  The other Doxie does her own thing and plods along smelling and checking out everything so genetically I think the seizure girl got the raw end of the gene pool for brain function. 
 
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TrailGirl - 2014-09-09 9:01 AM My little 5 year old weenie pup has had "episodes" as we call them, since she was 4 months old.  She does not have full gran mal seizures...but she gets anxious and then goes into a phase where her pupils are fully fixed and dialated.  It passes in a few minutes each time.  It's a form of seizure activity and may get worse as she ages.  They became more frequent  (from one a month to one almost weekly) so we put her on a low dose of phenobarbitol.  She hasn't had an eposide in the past 2 months on the medication.  



There are other medications in use now...but pehnobarb at a low dose is inexpensive and if it works well we will keep her on it.  Just have to test for liver issues periodically as the drug is metabolized in the liver.  Not generally an issue at low dosage.  But we may put her on milk thistle or other supplement for liver health.



Doxie's are known for this issue.  It's one of the breeds that has a pretty high incidence.




 

 You know, me and my family have had Dachshunds since the 1960's and have never had one with seizures(knock wood) so it surprises me to hear that Doxies are included in the high incidence catagory.  I have a call into my breeder and I am going to find out about this particular line.  It seems like I talked to her about it when they first started back in 2010 but I can't remember if she said she had any or not...I've slept since then. lol

I am pretty weary of her having another one so I have been a bit antsy since Saturday when she last had one.  I'm driving myself a little crazy. 
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Katie's - 2014-09-09 12:19 AM Isn't that the worst??  I've had two dogs that have had seizures, one was a full border collie and one was a border collie x aussie.  The first one was the same scenario that you described where he went several years with just having them a couple times a year but then, same as yours, he was around 8 or 9 when they started to become more frequent and harder (paddle type).  Put him on potassium bromide and something else that I don't recall at the moment, and that helped him until he died a few years later.  My second one, Katie, had them for about 5 years and would have them about 2-3 times a year and they were more of a tensing up type (not paddling) and not nearly as long.  Never put her on medication and she would have the seizure and then be totally fine and back to normal very quickly.  They are horrible and scary to watch.  I'm sure you know this, but I was told to keep them safe but never restrict or hold them down so I just always held their collar.  Turned the lights down and just made it very quiet and dark if possible.  Good luck to you. 

They are very scary especially at first.  I do the same thing you did and turn lights down and noise off(TV) and wait it out with her.  You feel so dang helpless.  How long did Katie live?  I know she was your girl.  
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Kaycee - 2014-09-09 9:18 AM
Katie's - 2014-09-09 12:19 AM Isn't that the worst??  I've had two dogs that have had seizures, one was a full border collie and one was a border collie x aussie.  The first one was the same scenario that you described where he went several years with just having them a couple times a year but then, same as yours, he was around 8 or 9 when they started to become more frequent and harder (paddle type).  Put him on potassium bromide and something else that I don't recall at the moment, and that helped him until he died a few years later.  My second one, Katie, had them for about 5 years and would have them about 2-3 times a year and they were more of a tensing up type (not paddling) and not nearly as long.  Never put her on medication and she would have the seizure and then be totally fine and back to normal very quickly.  They are horrible and scary to watch.  I'm sure you know this, but I was told to keep them safe but never restrict or hold them down so I just always held their collar.  Turned the lights down and just made it very quiet and dark if possible.  Good luck to you. 
They are very scary especially at first.  I do the same thing you did and turn lights down and noise off(TV) and wait it out with her.  You feel so dang helpless.  How long did Katie live?  I know she was your girl.  

Yep, tv off, no noise, dark and just super calm and quiet.  Amos, my first one would be super exhausted and just plain worn out for up to an hour after his seizures but Katie was like superdog and would just get up like nothing happened.  Katie lived with seizures for about five years and led a normal happy healthy life.  She died at age 7 from either an aneurism (sp?) or possibly brain tumor...   
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Katie's - 2014-09-09 12:19 AM Isn't that the worst??  I've had two dogs that have had seizures, one was a full border collie and one was a border collie x aussie.  The first one was the same scenario that you described where he went several years with just having them a couple times a year but then, same as yours, he was around 8 or 9 when they started to become more frequent and harder (paddle type).  Put him on potassium bromide and something else that I don't recall at the moment, and that helped him until he died a few years later.  My second one, Katie, had them for about 5 years and would have them about 2-3 times a year and they were more of a tensing up type (not paddling) and not nearly as long.  Never put her on medication and she would have the seizure and then be totally fine and back to normal very quickly.  They are horrible and scary to watch.  I'm sure you know this, but I was told to keep them safe but never restrict or hold them down so I just always held their collar.  Turned the lights down and just made it very quiet and dark if possible.  Good luck to you. 
They are very scary especially at first.  I do the same thing you did and turn lights down and noise off(TV) and wait it out with her.  You feel so dang helpless.  How long did Katie live?  I know she was your girl.  
Yep, tv off, no noise, dark and just super calm and quiet.  Amos, my first one would be super exhausted and just plain worn out for up to an hour after his seizures but Katie was like superdog and would just get up like nothing happened.  Katie lived with seizures for about five years and led a normal happy healthy life.  She died at age 7 from either an aneurism (sp?) or possibly brain tumor...   

 Oh Katie's that is heartbreaking. I'm so sorry. 
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Kaycee - 2014-09-08 10:08 PM

Does anyone have a dog or did have dog suffering from seizures? One of my Dachshunds has been having seizures since 2010 but they were many months apart so none of the vets thought medication was necessary, which I agreed. Well, since Aug. 9th my poor girl has had 3 about a week apart.  
I already spoke to one of my specialty vets today and they are sending a referal to a canine neurologist, but for now I want to hear what I am in for. She's almost 8 and in great shape, except for these dang seizure. 
What have been y'all's experiences?  I just keep thinking now she is going to have them constantly. I'm worried about my girl.  

Ours has been having them for three years. I am pretty use to seizures. Before we had her, growing up I had several JRT that had seizures, due to there breeding. My Mini wiener started having them after we came home for a long trip. She was 5 then. She LOVES chasing fly's and gets really into it. Well she went to chasing a fly and went smack dab into the wall at full force. She too only has them intermittently. I believe it is caused by a pinched nerve, sometimes stress induced as well. Our girl is going to be seen by a local vet that does chiropractic and acupuncture to see if that helps
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We had a Boston Terrier that had seizures towards the end of her life. They were very unpredicatable, but usually after she had really exerted herself. We didn't do anything for them because at that time she was really old. She also had some other health problems that we ended up putting her down for because the vet said even if we had medicated her she wouldn't have the quality of life or live beyond about a 6 month time frame.  
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Kaycee - 2014-09-08 10:08 PM Does anyone have a dog or did have dog suffering from seizures? One of my Dachshunds has been having seizures since 2010 but they were many months apart so none of the vets thought medication was necessary, which I agreed. Well, since Aug. 9th my poor girl has had 3 about a week apart.  

I already spoke to one of my specialty vets today and they are sending a referal to a canine neurologist, but for now I want to hear what I am in for. She's almost 8 and in great shape, except for these dang seizure. 

What have been y'all's experiences?  I just keep thinking now she is going to have them constantly. I'm worried about my girl.  
Ours has been having them for three years. I am pretty use to seizures. Before we had her, growing up I had several JRT that had seizures, due to there breeding. My Mini wiener started having them after we came home for a long trip. She was 5 then. She LOVES chasing fly's and gets really into it. Well she went to chasing a fly and went smack dab into the wall at full force. She too only has them intermittently. I believe it is caused by a pinched nerve, sometimes stress induced as well. Our girl is going to be seen by a local vet that does chiropractic and acupuncture to see if that helps

 See my Doxie is very intense about things like going for a walk(actually it's a run for her lol) especially when all three dogs go and she can try and keep up with our Doberman.  We used to let her chase the laser but she got so intense we thought that was what triggered the first seizure.  Our other Dachshund is the complete opposite of her(they are related-aunt and niece).  She couldn't care less about the laser and just doesn't get too worked up about anything, except FOOD, which is totally understandable, she's a Dachshund! 
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mtcanchazer - 2014-09-10 12:25 PM We had a Boston Terrier that had seizures towards the end of her life. They were very unpredicatable, but usually after she had really exerted herself. We didn't do anything for them because at that time she was really old. She also had some other health problems that we ended up putting her down for because the vet said even if we had medicated her she wouldn't have the quality of life or live beyond about a 6 month time frame.  

How old was she and how long inbetween seizures did she go? 
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We had a dog at our shelter that had seizures, we had to give him a pill a day so he woudl be ok, he never had once since then and was JUSt adopted last week after being here 8 mos!! Luckily, he was able to be in a home in foster care most of the time. He was a purebred Fox Terrier.
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Kaycee - 2014-09-10 12:31 PM
mtcanchazer - 2014-09-10 12:25 PM We had a Boston Terrier that had seizures towards the end of her life. They were very unpredicatable, but usually after she had really exerted herself. We didn't do anything for them because at that time she was really old. She also had some other health problems that we ended up putting her down for because the vet said even if we had medicated her she wouldn't have the quality of life or live beyond about a 6 month time frame.  
How old was she and how long inbetween seizures did she go? 

I'm trying to remember exactly, but she was in her teens (close to 15 I think, we got her when she was a couple of years old and had her close to 10 years, so we weren't certain on her age).
Her seizures were so sporadic...she could have them two days in a row (one a day) and then go a month before she would have another one. They usually happened after she ran really hard or something like that (one of her favorite things was to run from the back gate to the house as hard she could when you came home or in from taking her out). They got more frequent as she went to about once a week or so, and had some other peculiar things go on too (she would lick the sidewalk, stuff like that).  She eventually got to a point with her other health issues that she wouldn't eat, so we knew it was time. 
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DLV - 2014-09-10 2:08 PM We had a dog at our shelter that had seizures, we had to give him a pill a day so he woudl be ok, he never had once since then and was JUSt adopted last week after being here 8 mos!! Luckily, he was able to be in a home in foster care most of the time. He was a purebred Fox Terrier.

Do you know what the pill/medication was?  

I got an appt with the canine neurologist on Tues and we will be discussing medications. 
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mtcanchazer - 2014-09-10 12:25 PM We had a Boston Terrier that had seizures towards the end of her life. They were very unpredicatable, but usually after she had really exerted herself. We didn't do anything for them because at that time she was really old. She also had some other health problems that we ended up putting her down for because the vet said even if we had medicated her she wouldn't have the quality of life or live beyond about a 6 month time frame.  
How old was she and how long inbetween seizures did she go? 
I'm trying to remember exactly, but she was in her teens (close to 15 I think, we got her when she was a couple of years old and had her close to 10 years, so we weren't certain on her age).

Her seizures were so sporadic...she could have them two days in a row (one a day) and then go a month before she would have another one. They usually happened after she ran really hard or something like that (one of her favorite things was to run from the back gate to the house as hard she could when you came home or in from taking her out). They got more frequent as she went to about once a week or so, and had some other peculiar things go on too (she would lick the sidewalk, stuff like that).  She eventually got to a point with her other health issues that she wouldn't eat, so we knew it was time. 

 Our girl has had them just after high energy times and when she should have been asleep for a while.  They don't seem to have any rhyme or reason. 
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Switching my Aussie off of Purina Beneful dogfood to Evolve stopped her seizures.   She had them pretty often for about 3 years.  Very scary.  She had a couple a few months ago and I finally figured out that she had eaten some Beneful at my sister's house, so I think it was not a coincidence.
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Marfan - 2014-09-10 2:58 PM Switching my Aussie off of Purina Beneful dogfood to Evolve stopped her seizures.   She had them pretty often for about 3 years.  Very scary.  She had a couple a few months ago and I finally figured out that she had eaten some Beneful at my sister's house, so I think it was not a coincidence.

I was talking to my breeder yesterday and she was telling me that a lot of the seizures seem to completely stop after a food change to a better food or raw diet.
My girls are all on raw meat diet, mainly beef and chicken.  I decided to switch the one with seizure to only hormone free chicken and no beef because of her liver enzymes being high. We'll see how it all goes. 




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Just an FYI-if you are only using Heartgard every other month, it won't work. Not trying to be unfriendly but with the heartworm lifecycle, every other month won't kill all of the immature heartworms. You may still get an infection. Also, in the south, year round prevention is recommended.  
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gypsy1997 - 2014-09-10 3:07 PM Just an FYI-if you are only using Heartgard every other month, it won't work. Not trying to be unfriendly but with the heartworm lifecycle, every other month won't kill all of the immature heartworms. You may still get an infection. Also, in the south, year round prevention is recommended.  

Yeah I know that the dosing is lx/mo but there has been some evidence that Ivermectin may be good for over two months.  I have also read that mesquitos may be coming resistant to Ivermectin, too.  It's a confusing world out there and I have to weigh my risks vs benefits with her having seizures, which have been shown to occur with Ivermectin in dogs, and keeping the heartworms at bay.  
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Kaycee - 2014-09-10 1:02 PM
Marfan - 2014-09-10 2:58 PM Switching my Aussie off of Purina Beneful dogfood to Evolve stopped her seizures.   She had them pretty often for about 3 years.  Very scary.  She had a couple a few months ago and I finally figured out that she had eaten some Beneful at my sister's house, so I think it was not a coincidence.
I was talking to my breeder yesterday and she was telling me that a lot of the seizures seem to completely stop after a food change to a better food or raw diet.

My girls are all on raw meat diet, mainly beef and chicken.  I decided to switch the one with seizure to only hormone free chicken and no beef because of her liver enzymes being high. We'll see how it all goes. 

What a little sweetheart!! 
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Marfan - 2014-09-10 2:58 PM Switching my Aussie off of Purina Beneful dogfood to Evolve stopped her seizures.   She had them pretty often for about 3 years.  Very scary.  She had a couple a few months ago and I finally figured out that she had eaten some Beneful at my sister's house, so I think it was not a coincidence.
I was talking to my breeder yesterday and she was telling me that a lot of the seizures seem to completely stop after a food change to a better food or raw diet.

My girls are all on raw meat diet, mainly beef and chicken.  I decided to switch the one with seizure to only hormone free chicken and no beef because of her liver enzymes being high. We'll see how it all goes. 
What a little sweetheart!! 

Aww, thanks Katie! Don't let that sweetness fool you, she can be a little terrorist! Typical Doxie.  
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One of our collies suffers from seizures. We give him phenobarbital twice a day at the same time. Also noticed a difference when we switched food and try to keep him on a a meat and vegetables/home cooked kind of diet - hasn't had one in a long time and is a happy dog.
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LuckyNGG'sGirl - 2014-09-10 9:41 PM One of our collies suffers from seizures. We give him phenobarbital twice a day at the same time. Also noticed a difference when we switched food and try to keep him on a a meat and vegetables/home cooked kind of diet - hasn't had one in a long time and is a happy dog.

This is great news LNG.  It's comforting to read these positive stories from everyone. 
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Kaycee - 2014-09-10 3:24 PM
gypsy1997 - 2014-09-10 3:07 PM Just an FYI-if you are only using Heartgard every other month, it won't work. Not trying to be unfriendly but with the heartworm lifecycle, every other month won't kill all of the immature heartworms. You may still get an infection. Also, in the south, year round prevention is recommended.  
Yeah I know that the dosing is lx/mo but there has been some evidence that Ivermectin may be good for over two months.  I have also read that mesquitos may be coming resistant to Ivermectin, too.  It's a confusing world out there and I have to weigh my risks vs benefits with her having seizures, which have been shown to occur with Ivermectin in dogs, and keeping the heartworms at bay.  

Ivermectin is good for 45 days max. And yes there is some possible resistance showing up but it is still much easier and safer to prevent heartworms than to treat them.  
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lizzy
Reg. Feb 2005
Posted 2014-09-11 3:17 PM
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I have a rescue doxie I have had for approximately 5 years.  A couple months ago out of the blue she had a seizure, the first one I didnt realize it was a seizure I thought she was chocking on something. She has about 1 a month. The second time she had one and I realized what it was it was after hours so I called the "on call" vet by the time I gotten a return call she had stopped and the vet said it wouldnt do any good to bring her in just document it and document when she had another. Of course the next one came after hours as well.  I really dont know how old she is but she is extremely afraid of people and I am the only one who can touch her.  We believe she was dumped from a puppy mill as there were 5 of them dumped and all were females who had not been touched much because they were scared to death of us and we had to run them down with our 4 wheeler to catch them.  She is the only one we did not rehome out because she is so timid with people. That is one reason why I hesitate to take her to the vet I dont want it to trigger another seizure.  The only change we have made with her is we put her on trifexus for heartworm and flea protection and I am thinking that may have been what started causing them.  They last for up to 5 minutes and her eyes get completely dialated she drooling and deficates. I do as others have said take her to a quiet dark place and ride it out.  
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Kaycee
Reg. Jun 2005
Posted 2014-09-11 8:11 PM
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lizzy - 2014-09-11 3:17 PM I have a rescue doxie I have had for approximately 5 years.  A couple months ago out of the blue she had a seizure, the first one I didnt realize it was a seizure I thought she was chocking on something. She has about 1 a month. The second time she had one and I realized what it was it was after hours so I called the "on call" vet by the time I gotten a return call she had stopped and the vet said it wouldnt do any good to bring her in just document it and document when she had another. Of course the next one came after hours as well.  I really dont know how old she is but she is extremely afraid of people and I am the only one who can touch her.  We believe she was dumped from a puppy mill as there were 5 of them dumped and all were females who had not been touched much because they were scared to death of us and we had to run them down with our 4 wheeler to catch them.  She is the only one we did not rehome out because she is so timid with people. That is one reason why I hesitate to take her to the vet I dont want it to trigger another seizure.  The only change we have made with her is we put her on trifexus for heartworm and flea protection and I am thinking that may have been what started causing them.  They last for up to 5 minutes and her eyes get completely dialated she drooling and deficates. I do as others have said take her to a quiet dark place and ride it out.  

Oh that poor little one.    If she keeps up with the seizure you really need to take her to a vet.  Even if she had a seizure while there they could see it and Rx the meds needed to help her.  From what I have read if the seizures are 5 mins or more and they lose consiousness it's very important to have them checked out by the vet.  Also, read up as much about the flea and heartworm meds you are giving her. They could definitely be the trigger.   
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Stitch4k9
Reg. Feb 2006
Posted 2014-09-11 9:44 PM
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Look at your foods..... Get them off corn, wheat and soy.  Check treats as well.  NO Dyes.  You would not believe the amount of Red dye 40 used in beneful, milk bones, etc..   We have seen some dogs reacting to flax seed.

As for heartworm meds.  Something you should look at and discuss with your Vet.  If your dog is an Aussie, Border Collie, Herding breeds.   They may well be having issues with Ivermectin and other drugs.  Read about MDR1, print info. and discuss it with your vet.   I will take my chances with heartworm over knowingly poisoning my dogs.   

   It is generally helpful to keep a journal.  When the seizure happened, length, food prior, recent vaccinations, heartworm, wormer, etc..  Also exercise,  how hot it was outside, etc..  If the dog has epilepsy it is generally very treatable with meds.  Most vets will want to see a dog asap and run a blood panel. 

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Kaycee
Reg. Jun 2005
Posted 2014-09-11 10:25 PM
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Stitch4k9 - 2014-09-11 9:44 PM Look at your foods..... Get them off corn, wheat and soy.  Check treats as well.  NO Dyes.  You would not believe the amount of Red dye 40 used in beneful, milk bones, etc..   We have seen some dogs reacting to flax seed.



As for heartworm meds.  Something you should look at and discuss with your Vet.  If your dog is an Aussie, Border Collie, Herding breeds.   They may well be having issues with Ivermectin and other drugs.  Read about MDR1, print info. and discuss it with your vet.   I will take my chances with heartworm over knowingly poisoning my dogs.   



   It is generally helpful to keep a journal.  When the seizure happened, length, food prior, recent vaccinations, heartworm, wormer, etc..  Also exercise,  how hot it was outside, etc..  If the dog has epilepsy it is generally very treatable with meds.  Most vets will want to see a dog asap and run a blood panel. 



karen

All really good info Stitch.  I am uber sensitive about what my dogs eat(raw diet), how much exercise especially in the heat and vaccinations(none after one year of age), but  I gotta admit I do give Milkbone dog biscuits from time to time.  I really need to go back to just cutting up small bites of meat.   I'll get back with y'all after having my girl examined by the neurologist on Tue.  
BTW, I would believe the amount of red dye in Beneful and the amount of salts and sugars to make it palatable to the dogs. 
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