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no grain bandwagon
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Reg. Dec 2012
Posted 2014-09-09 12:54 PM
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How many people are NO longer feeding their horses grain (ex: strategy, safechoice -- COB, oats)? But simply alfalfa (pellets/cubes), rice bran, beet pulp and vit/mineral?



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SuckerForHorses
Reg. Apr 2014
Posted 2014-09-09 12:58 PM
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Me.

They get a ration balancer for their vitamins and minerals, and if that isn't enough calories with free choice hay (winter) or 24/7 grass pasture (summer), I add alfalfa pellets.
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Reg. Apr 2014
Posted 2014-09-09 2:37 PM
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The healthiest thing for a horse is forage. The grain is there to give vitamins and minerals. If you can get a straight up supplement to cover that, then I would go off grain. My feeding program is grass and alfalfa am pm, I give more or less of each depending on their weight and workout schedules. They get a local sweet feed which I put a scoop of Platinum on 2x/day. The sweet feed is there to put the supplement on and just as a treat. They get about 2 handfuls for the supplement to go on top of. You could also just get a generic pelleted feed and soak it for the powdered supplement, but I see it kind of as a treat. The small amount isn't going to hurt them. Or you can also get pelleted supplement from some of the other brands. I have seen great results over the last 6 months of changing my routine to this. I was doing 1 flake grass and 1/2 flake alfalfa and 3/4 scoop grain in the am and 1 flake grass and 3/4 grain in the pm. They just didn't look great. Healthy weight but not healthy looking overall. Now it's 1 flake grass 1/2 flake alfalfa, couple handfuls of the same grain and a scoop of platinum. I do this same thing both times a day. They look amazing.
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Reg. Mar 2004
Posted 2014-09-09 2:45 PM
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I am feeding Renew Gold and my gelding looks amazing. I soak Alfalfa/Timothy cubes OR Alfalfa pellets to feed him his THE scoop and I just mix his Biotin supplement in with the RG since it's also in pelleted form. I've only been doing it for about three weeks, but I am so far impressed!
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moorehorses
Reg. Nov 2008
Posted 2014-09-09 2:53 PM
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Me. My barrel horses get alfalfa pellets with about a cup full of rice bran to add in their supplements and pasture grass in the summer while my pasture pets which are occasionally used for trail riding get just pasture grass. Then in winter time they all get hay, pasture pickings & beet pulp, but my barrel horses also still get their alfalfa pellets rice bran and supplements added in. Everybody is fat and happy!
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TwistedK
Reg. May 2006
Posted 2014-09-09 2:53 PM
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I feed free choice bermuda round bales. In the am my guys get 1 scoop timothy pellets. In the evening they get 1 scoop Safe Choice original with Adeptus Augment. 
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ecranch
Reg. Dec 2012
Posted 2014-09-09 2:57 PM
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moorehorses - 2014-09-09 2:53 PM

Me. My barrel horses get alfalfa pellets with about a cup full of rice bran to add in their supplements and pasture grass in the summer while my pasture pets which are occasionally used for trail riding get just pasture grass. Then in winter time they all get hay, pasture pickings & beet pulp, but my barrel horses also still get their alfalfa pellets rice bran and supplements added in. Everybody is fat and happy!

Do you have a vitamin/mineral?
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rodeomom3
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2014-09-09 3:02 PM
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 No grain for 4 years.  My feed programmed evolved to no grain from dealing with colic and ulcers.   I feed molasses free beet pulp- 1 cup in the summer, more in the winter for calories,renew gold for fat, 707 essential vitamin and minerals, alfalfa for protein, horses have 80 acres to graze.  Mine look good  and feel good.

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ecranch
Reg. Dec 2012
Posted 2014-09-09 3:05 PM
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rodeomom3 - 2014-09-09 3:02 PM

 No grain for 4 years.  My feed programmed evolved to no grain from dealing with colic and ulcers.   I feed molasses free beet pulp- 1 cup in the summer, more in the winter for calories,renew gold for fat, 707 essential vitamin and minerals, alfalfa for protein, horses have 80 acres to graze.  Mine look food and feel good.

I sure wish I could get Renew Gold! My options are Max-E-Glo, Empower Boost or Healthy/MooreGlo by ADM.

Do you soak your beet pulp?
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moorehorses
Reg. Nov 2008
Posted 2014-09-09 3:14 PM
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Not a vitamin/mineral as i believe they get most of that from the fertilized grass they eat. I give my barrel horses a special blend of T.H.E. Muscle Mass, human grade organic sulfur & Animed's Remission. They also have a salt block. I have a 13 yr. old 1D mare @ big shows & a 6 yr. old mare that just started running 3D times and they are both in great shape. Even in this heat they don't lack for energy and aren't sweating bad and panting like most horses i see.

I cannot say enough great things about T.H.E. Muscle Mass, if it were the only supplement i could feed, i would.

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casualdust07
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2014-09-09 3:28 PM
Subject: RE: no grain bandwagon



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If I had it my way, I would not feed grain.

It is better for the horse to eat mostly forage with vitamins and minerals supplemented as needed. Ideally, you should test your pastures and your hay to see what they are getting and compare that to what they require for nutrition… and then supplement based off that.

However, it can be time consuming and those levels change a lot especially during the time of year. If I was at home with my horses and had enough pasture for them to live off, I would be all over it. But I am at school and depend on my mom and sister to feed and ride my horses…we have enough pasture for them to move around and graze on, but not enough for them to really live off so we still feed a complete feed and then give hay and pasture in addition. One day when I'm out of school and have my own place, I will hopefully have it set up to where they can live off the grass and get supplementation with vitamins and minerals.
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fabulous2006
Reg. Mar 2009
Posted 2014-09-09 3:47 PM
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I feed beet pulp, alfalfa pellets, a diet balancer and a fat supplement.
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GLP
Reg. Oct 2013
Posted 2014-09-09 4:01 PM
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I feed alfalfa/oat hay cubes, alfalfa pellets, Renew Gold, Grostrong bit/mineral supplement and AE. They look and feel great. We are still in a bad drought here in S. Texas so our hay is less than stellar.
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meganmc2209
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2014-09-09 4:19 PM
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ME!!!
After my old guy had colic surgery a year and a half ago, my opinion about grain changed.. I had him on SafeChoice. (not that I blame the grain for his surgery, but it left a bad taste in my mouth). After the surgery, the vets had me keep him on a coastal and alfalfa diet for a long time... so I just stuck with that. So mine only get alfalfa, pasture grass and now I am feeding Renew Gold along with GroStrong Minerals, a joint supplement, etc... And man I LOVE IT! My horses look and feel wonderful.. My old guy is 15 and he acts like he feels better now than he ever has. I also have my 5 year old on it and she does great on it too. It doesn't make her hot. I won't be going back to grain unless there is an absolute need for it..
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Reg. Oct 2009
Posted 2014-09-09 4:20 PM
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I feed beet pulp, alfalfa pellets and Horse Guard multivitamin and then grass hay. They don't really have a lot of pasture (two of them live on dry lots) but they all still look good. Shiny, no ribs, good topline, etc.
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want2chase3
Reg. May 2009
Posted 2014-09-09 7:44 PM
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Id like to get away from grain too. I do have access to renew gold and have toyed with the idea of switching. I feed beet pulp already. I could get alfalfa pellets if needed or oats. I also feed THE muscle mass and forco. They have no pasture so they get fed coastal twice a day. Im wondering if I went the renew gold route if id need to add a vitamin /mineral to what im already feeding.
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CocoChex
Reg. Mar 2013
Posted 2014-09-09 8:24 PM
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Mine are easy keepers, so I just feed quality hay - and literally 1 cup of strategy per day just to mix in their glucosamines and vitamin/mineral supplement.
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pabarrelracer
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2014-09-09 9:03 PM
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 I only feed barley, beetpulp & platinum to my 1 horse but he's a hard keeper. The rest are all on pasture and empower balance. Been feeding this way for a few years. When i did feed grain it was very little. I always fed more hay than most people around here do. I dont belive they really need grain. There are exceptions to that though. 
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phillyincal
Reg. Jan 2005
Posted 2014-09-09 11:03 PM
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Rye grass am, Alfalfa + Renew Gold pm.  My horse looks and feels great! 
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cavyrunsbarrels
Reg. Dec 2010
Posted 2014-09-10 12:57 AM
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 Two of my three don't get grain. One horse is on straight up grass, out 24/7. One gets alfalfa pellets with a vitamin supplement, garlic, and hoof/joint supplements plus a round bale in his pen. I went with the Alfalfa pellets b/c that's what he was on when I bought him, and I decided not to fix what wasn't broken. Plus they're cheap. He's fat, happy, and in good health. I don't plan on giving him grain ever. 
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Reg. Apr 2005
Posted 2014-09-10 5:50 AM
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My broods get normal grain amounts, and everyone gets a handful daily so I can feed their vitamin/mineral.  But I've gone from using 15 bags a month to 4.  Getting less than a pound a day has aleviated all the grain-based issues.  Their feet have changed, their attitudes are great, energy high but not hot.  After weaning and drying up I'm going to try feeding the alfalfa (replaced grain in my feed program) to the broods twice daily instead of grain and give that a try.  
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daisycake123
Reg. Dec 2006
Posted 2014-09-10 6:13 AM
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I have 3 horses and i feed one 50 bag of blue seal low starch. I have a yearling, and older brood mare and she could be fatter, but i know she needs her teeth done, and my 11 year old 16.1 hand gelding. All plenty fat. Get a good size flake a hay, and grass all they can eat. In winter i give some hay replacement pellets of some kind and beet pulp.
And a slice of alfalfa. I used to feed at least to feed at least 100 pounds of feed for the same amount of horses. And if i am workimg my gelding hard i get some kool kalaries which is a granulated fat. Really good. Not expensive and works.
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ecranch
Reg. Dec 2012
Posted 2014-09-10 7:49 AM
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I can't get Renew Gold.....Max-E-Glo, Empower Boost and HealthyGlo/MoorGlo by ADM. Which would be most comparable to Renew Gold?
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Reg. Aug 2013
Posted 2014-09-10 9:24 AM
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Mine are on free choice brome (round bale), Max E-Glo, Alfalfa cubes, Platinum, and raspberry leaves (they are both mares and it WORKS)

They are sassy, fit, and in great shape this year. They look great, feel great, and my finished mare is running hard. The 3 yo filly works her booty off for me 5x a week in training. I have no complaints and my feed bill has gone WAY down. :)
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JLBerry
Reg. Jul 2013
Posted 2014-09-10 9:37 AM
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I have a weanling, 7 yr old, 14 yr old and 16yr old. All are on Renew Gold, alfalfa pellets, alfalfa cubes and some coastal hay/pasture. Also they get Oxygen supplements. They all look and feel great. Love that I can feed the same thing to all of them and not have separate feeds!
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winwillows
Reg. Jul 2013
Posted 2014-09-10 10:23 AM
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On Renew Gold availability, if you can get Max E Glo in your area, Renew Gold is available to the store on the same truck. Many stores just do not know this. While Renew Gold is not owned by Manna Pro like Max E Glo is, they both are distributed East of the Rocky Mountains by Manna Pro.
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Jazz's Girl
Reg. Apr 2013
Posted 2014-09-10 11:09 AM
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So.... If you want to go grain free.... What is the best supplement? And what all DO they need? Mine get safechoice, chaffhaye, DE, Fasttrack and AVC twice a day. They have access to free choice minerals 24/7 and are turned out 24/7.

Ive looked at the Dynamite supplements. Anyone feed them?
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dashnlotti
Reg. Aug 2009
Posted 2014-09-10 11:29 AM
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casualdust07 - 2014-09-09 3:28 PM If I had it my way, I would not feed grain. It is better for the horse to eat mostly forage with vitamins and minerals supplemented as needed. Ideally, you should test your pastures and your hay to see what they are getting and compare that to what they require for nutrition… and then supplement based off that. However, it can be time consuming and those levels change a lot especially during the time of year. If I was at home with my horses and had enough pasture for them to live off, I would be all over it. But I am at school and depend on my mom and sister to feed and ride my horses…we have enough pasture for them to move around and graze on, but not enough for them to really live off so we still feed a complete feed and then give hay and pasture in addition. One day when I'm out of school and have my own place, I will hopefully have it set up to where they can live off the grass and get supplementation with vitamins and minerals.

I'm in a similar situation.  My horse is still at home and the rest of the barn gets grain.  And my mom only has a couple acres so there isn't anything to graze, they just get out to move around and socialize.  I'm studying nutrition in school and it is something I'm passionate about, so it naturally carries over to my horse.
We have close to 10 acres at my fiance's place but it doesn't have good grass...YET.  Slowly but surely we will get there, it just needs a complete overhaul.  So hopefully as we get good pasture established I can start backing everybody off grain.  His horses get grain as well because they are mainly picking at weeds and crab grass.

 
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Tanya
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2014-09-10 12:17 PM
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winwillows - 2014-09-10 11:23 AM On Renew Gold availability, if you can get Max E Glo in your area, Renew Gold is available to the store on the same truck. Many stores just do not know this. While Renew Gold is not owned by Manna Pro like Max E Glo is, they both are distributed East of the Rocky Mountains by Manna Pro.

I have asked every tractor supply in a 40 mile radius if they can get it and they all say no and wont look into it further.    
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ecranch
Reg. Dec 2012
Posted 2014-09-10 12:55 PM
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Tanya - 2014-09-10 12:17 PM

winwillows - 2014-09-10 11:23 AM On Renew Gold availability, if you can get Max E Glo in your area, Renew Gold is available to the store on the same truck. Many stores just do not know this. While Renew Gold is not owned by Manna Pro like Max E Glo is, they both are distributed East of the Rocky Mountains by Manna Pro.

I have asked every tractor supply in a 40 mile radius if they can get it and they all say no and wont look into it further.    

Same here....along with Orschelns
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winwillows
Reg. Jul 2013
Posted 2014-09-10 1:33 PM
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Call our office and we will get you taken care of. 530-934-9300. As I mentioned before. Do not try to get it from Tractor Supply!!! Renew Gold is in a trial in some west coast stores and generally not available through them anywhere else. A few other stores have taken the trouble to get it for customers. In general though, Tractor Supply is a no go. I have tried to get them to take it off of their web site with no success. Any independent feed store in the US that carries Manna Pro products can get it with a simple order. If they say that they can't it is simple laziness not availability.
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want2chase3
Reg. May 2009
Posted 2014-09-10 1:37 PM
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I can get renew gold here for $34.95 is that about the going rate? Im paying $25.90 for the grain they are on currently and I thought THAT was alot! Granted they only get a max of 4lbs a day of it.
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GLP
Reg. Oct 2013
Posted 2014-09-10 3:06 PM
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want2chase3 - 2014-09-10 1:37 PM

I can get renew gold here for $34.95 is that about the going rate? Im paying $25.90 for the grain they are on currently and I thought THAT was alot! Granted they only get a max of 4lbs a day of it.

That is what I pay here in S Texas. It lasts a month for one horse if you feed 1 lb a day.
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want2chase3
Reg. May 2009
Posted 2014-09-10 3:13 PM
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GLP - 2014-09-10 3:06 PM

want2chase3 - 2014-09-10 1:37 PM

I can get renew gold here for $34.95 is that about the going rate? Im paying $25.90 for the grain they are on currently and I thought THAT was alot! Granted they only get a max of 4lbs a day of it.

That is what I pay here in S Texas. It lasts a month for one horse if you feed 1 lb a day.

Do you split the feedings twice a day? What else do you feed with it? I really only have 2 that are in work that would probably need the full lb. My other one would probably just get a half lb. Hes a super easy keeper.
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Reg. Oct 2013
Posted 2014-09-10 3:29 PM
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want2chase3 - 2014-09-10 3:13 PM

GLP - 2014-09-10 3:06 PM

want2chase3 - 2014-09-10 1:37 PM

I can get renew gold here for $34.95 is that about the going rate? Im paying $25.90 for the grain they are on currently and I thought THAT was alot! Granted they only get a max of 4lbs a day of it.

That is what I pay here in S Texas. It lasts a month for one horse if you feed 1 lb a day.

Do you split the feedings twice a day? What else do you feed with it? I really only have 2 that are in work that would probably need the full lb. My other one would probably just get a half lb. Hes a super easy keeper.

I do split into 2 feedings. I feed 2.4 lbs of alfalfa cubes, a supplement scoop of whole flaxseed twice a day. In the evening I add grostrong mineral/vitamins and AE because we are surrounded by farm land and I just feel better when I periodically feed it. Also because of the drought our hay is not high quality, but no weeds and they look really good. Fat and shiny.
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want2chase3
Reg. May 2009
Posted 2014-09-10 3:43 PM
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GLP - 2014-09-10 3:29 PM

want2chase3 - 2014-09-10 3:13 PM

GLP - 2014-09-10 3:06 PM

want2chase3 - 2014-09-10 1:37 PM

I can get renew gold here for $34.95 is that about the going rate? Im paying $25.90 for the grain they are on currently and I thought THAT was alot! Granted they only get a max of 4lbs a day of it.

That is what I pay here in S Texas. It lasts a month for one horse if you feed 1 lb a day.

Do you split the feedings twice a day? What else do you feed with it? I really only have 2 that are in work that would probably need the full lb. My other one would probably just get a half lb. Hes a super easy keeper.

I do split into 2 feedings. I feed 2.4 lbs of alfalfa cubes, a supplement scoop of whole flaxseed twice a day. In the evening I add grostrong mineral/vitamins and AE because we are surrounded by farm land and I just feel better when I periodically feed it. Also because of the drought our hay is not high quality, but no weeds and they look really good. Fat and shiny.

My hay isnt horrible but not that great either. Id definitely have to add alfalfa pellets or cubes for the calories on my two that are working. I need to price those in my area (new mexico) and see how much I might be saving making the switch!
Thanks for the info!
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dream_chaser
Reg. Jun 2006
Posted 2014-09-10 4:07 PM
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 Never have fed grain! Only my aged horse and one with a  jaw issue gets a extruded senior feed. We've raised 3 foals since we bought our place nobody got grain just great quality forage and 24/7 access to a mineral block.
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3rdtimesacharm
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2014-09-10 6:10 PM
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 For the ones not feeding grain, how competive are your horses?  Any 1-2 d horses?
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hammer_time
Reg. Jul 2007
Posted 2014-09-10 6:28 PM
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 Me.  When I was competing I quit feeding mine grain--he didn't need it.  If I were to get back to riding, I'd be feeding Renew Gold.  
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Reg. Dec 2005
Posted 2014-09-10 6:34 PM
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Jazz's Girl - 2014-09-10 11:09 AM So.... If you want to go grain free.... What is the best supplement? And what all DO they need? Mine get safechoice, chaffhaye, DE, Fasttrack and AVC twice a day. They have access to free choice minerals 24/7 and are turned out 24/7. Ive looked at the Dynamite supplements. Anyone feed them?

 I use Equine Natural Care Herbs. 
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GLP
Reg. Oct 2013
Posted 2014-09-10 6:40 PM
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3rdtimesacharm - 2014-09-10 6:10 PM

 For the ones not feeding grain, how competive are your horses?  Any 1-2 d horses?

Gotta admit we are not.:)
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rodeomom3
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2014-09-10 7:11 PM
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3rdtimesacharm - 2014-09-10 6:10 PM  For the ones not feeding grain, how competive are your horses?  Any 1-2 d horses?
I am a 3D rider, but my girls can get on them and run 1D.  First video is my daughter Megan, her first run in a couple of years, came into town and hopped on him- 6th or 7th place 1D, about 130 runners. She rode a little tentative since first run in a while- she used to send him hard to the first. Second video is my daughter Morgan, she lives at home but is not interested in riding anymore.  She will go every now and then.  This run was from last winter- just out of the 1D money-200 entries. Third video is me- I think we won the 2D with this run.  
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daisycake123
Reg. Dec 2006
Posted 2014-09-10 8:51 PM
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Check blue seal out, was talking to,the feed rep at lexington, va nbha regionals. She was showing me the stats on the regular feeds and hay stretcher. I usually feed low starch and they have on was some joint suppliement. The also have sunshie plus which is a ration balancer, is kinda close to,renew gold on price and calories. Even there hay stretcher has low starch. And there cheap feed is very low starch not reallly much different that safechoice. There formulas are fixed. Until i talked to,her i did not know,how good ther grain is. I love there hay stretcher imuse to,use it as treats. And o,g there banana treats your horses will kill you for them.
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winwillows
Reg. Jul 2013
Posted 2014-09-10 11:26 PM
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As to how competitive these rations can be, ask Sherry Cervi, or Dena Kirkpatrick. Both have been on this program for over two years. Also more 1D horses than there is room to list. Getting the digestive system to function properly allows a horse to perform to it's genetic potential. Many of the best performance horses in the World in every type of performance event have moved to this more efficient and safe type of feed program.
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rodeomom3
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2014-09-11 7:03 AM
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winwillows - 2014-09-10 11:26 PM As to how competitive these rations can be, ask Sherry Cervi, or Dena Kirkpatrick. Both have been on this program for over two years. Also more 1D horses than there is room to list. Getting the digestive system to function properly allows a horse to perform to it's genetic potential. Many of the best performance horses in the World in every type of performance event have moved to this more efficient and safe type of feed program.

 My horses are full of energy, they are on 80 acres and constantly running, bucking and playing.  They have bright eyes and bright shiny coats.  I brought our pole horse out of retirement to go to ANHA so I started giving him Renew Gold at the beginning of July.  His faded out black coat went to a deep rich color, Casualdust even commented on how dark he was for a summer coat.  He ran great for me at Waco.
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3rdtimesacharm
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Posted 2014-09-11 10:43 AM
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 When mine gets turned out in the pasture to eat grass he gets a big grass belly
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Posted 2014-09-11 1:11 PM
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I'm on the no grain bandwagon at like 95%. and my horses have never looked better.

I feed them enough grain to have a few bites coming in and going out because my one horse will break doors down in order to get it. I only go through a 50lb bag a month for two horses, if that tells you how little I feed! It's more for my Appy's happiness than anything, He LOVES that TC complete so much he goes bananas for it! It doesn't seem to matter to either of my horses that they're getting so little, so I am okay with it.

They are on meadow grass/orchard grass with a flake of alfalfa each day for the summer. 14+ hours of grazing + a round bale with free choice minerals and salt. My horses have seriously never looked better, and they feel so great to ride! I am in total amazement how simple this fix was, and how long I let my horses go before I fed them this way. It makes me feel so much better knowing I don't have to pump them full of grains and supplements to make them look and feel this great.


Before it seemed like I was pouring grain to them and kind of skimping on hay and was so frustrated because they just didn't feel that great. Obviously I wasn't using my brain!
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LP22654
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Posted 2014-09-11 2:02 PM
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When you say pound, how do you measure this? Just curious.
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SuckerForHorses
Reg. Apr 2014
Posted 2014-09-11 2:22 PM
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LP22654 - 2014-09-11 3:02 PM

When you say pound, how do you measure this? Just curious.

http://www.walmart.com/ip/South-Bend-8-Pound-Scale/34771004

I have one similar to this.

Hang it up, put your bucket on it, set scale to 0, add your feed, and the weight is of whatever feed you add to the bucket.

Also, most pelleted feeds (not extruded) are approximately 3 standard measuring cups = 1 pound.
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CJE
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2014-09-11 7:37 PM
Subject: RE: no grain bandwagon



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3rdtimesacharm - 2014-09-09 7:10 PM  For the ones not feeding grain, how competive are your horses?  Any 1-2 d horses?

Mine are..........I am not totally grain free but the amount mine get is minimum to what some feed....it is a Purina feed but many consider it the "cheap" feed.......but I consider the fact I feed alfalfa cubes is what really keeps the bloom on mine........and trust me they have the bloom.........hay is Tift 85........recently have access to some alfalfa hay so I am thinking dropping the grain even more!
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shubug007
Reg. Aug 2007
Posted 2014-09-11 7:56 PM
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I have 2 off grain(fat as ticks) two on grain. my 25 yr old gets a scoop of equine sr active at night and the other one a scoop of healthy edge...
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ladyelbert
Reg. Aug 2006
Posted 2014-09-12 5:25 AM
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ok i have a question?? For those of you feeding the alfalfa cubes, how do you feed them? Do you break them up? It looks to me like they would get choked on them since the cubes are so hard, also How many cubes do you feed a horse at one time??? I have never fed anything alfafa before..so please enllighten me....i was told to feed my horse alfafa along to help buffer his stomach cause he has ulcers( he is also being treated for ulcers).
 
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want2chase3
Reg. May 2009
Posted 2014-09-12 7:06 AM
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ladyelbert - 2014-09-12 5:25 AM

ok i have a question?? For those of you feeding the alfalfa cubes, how do you feed them? Do you break them up? It looks to me like they would get choked on them since the cubes are so hard, also How many cubes do you feed a horse at one time??? I have never fed anything alfafa before..so please enllighten me....i was told to feed my horse alfafa along to help buffer his stomach cause he has ulcers( he is also being treated for ulcers).
 

I think it depends on the condition of the horses teeth. I fed cubes for a while but I soaked them before feeding. I never felt comfortable just feeding then whole and dry. But I know several people that do with no problem.
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Mainer-racer
Reg. Oct 2004
Posted 2014-09-12 7:58 AM
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winwillows - 2014-09-11 12:26 AM As to how competitive these rations can be, ask Sherry Cervi, or Dena Kirkpatrick. Both have been on this program for over two years. Also more 1D horses than there is room to list. Getting the digestive system to function properly allows a horse to perform to it's genetic potential. Many of the best performance horses in the World in every type of performance event have moved to this more efficient and safe type of feed program.

Crazy to ask but will you come out with a blend without as much flax? Figures my horse is allegeric to flax.  I had him on Renew Gold, he looked and acted great, but bloated up after 2 months because of the reaction. Love the concept, simple ingredients, but I have the fluke horse.
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winwillows
Reg. Jul 2013
Posted 2014-09-12 9:36 AM
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Mainer-racer - 2014-09-12 7:58 AM

winwillows - 2014-09-11 12:26 AM As to how competitive these rations can be, ask Sherry Cervi, or Dena Kirkpatrick. Both have been on this program for over two years. Also more 1D horses than there is room to list. Getting the digestive system to function properly allows a horse to perform to it's genetic potential. Many of the best performance horses in the World in every type of performance event have moved to this more efficient and safe type of feed program.

Crazy to ask but will you come out with a blend without as much flax? Figures my horse is allegeric to flax.  I had him on Renew Gold, he looked and acted great, but bloated up after 2 months because of the reaction. Love the concept, simple ingredients, but I have the fluke horse.

As simple as the Renew Gold formulation looks, there is a very complicated relationship between the ingredients. The Flax that is in the product causes specific responses from other ingredients, and needs to be there. Sorry about the sensitivity that your horse has to flax. That is rare.
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