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    Location: Central Texas | Has anyone had this experience with bute? Horse not firing during run, gassy, tail raised like they are having gastric distress. It wasn't given daily just given once before a long weekend of running. Just curious if this has happened to anyone else. I can't think of anything else that would have bothered him. Nothing else was done differently. This has happened 3 times. |
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     Location: Desert Land | I have not personally had that experience, but Bute can cause gastric ulcers. If I bute, I try to give ulcerguard as well. |
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| I have a gelding that is treated daily for ulcers so I stay away from bute with him. If you need to give pain meds maybe you can find an alternative such as previcox or banamine. I haven't noticed that kind of discomfort with my gelding but his reaction to it is to develop extremely loose stools. |
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| Painaway is not hard on a horse. It's all natural. I use it instead of bute |
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| Bute and banamine are both NSAIDS that cause over production of stomach acid, and have been shown to cause ulcers. Prevacox is a better bet.
I would get your horse scoped for ulcers, the bute may have been aggravating and compounding an existing condition. |
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        Location: Buffalo, Wyoming | readytorodeo - 2014-09-16 1:29 PM Painaway is not hard on a horse. It's all natural. I use it instead of bute
Where can I get more information on this? |
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        Location: Sunny So Cal | THE Inflammation Relief has work really well for my horses. I love how it is gentle on their stomachs. |
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    Location: 31 lengths farms | My gelding cannot have Bute orally, he acts colicky within about 10 minutes of administration orally. He has had it successfully IV after an operation to remove some scar tissue.
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       Location: South Central Florida | We had a mare that had weird reactions to Bute...she would drool and drop her ears out...looked like she had a tranq. She would not fire either, ran like she was half asleep. It only took 2 times to realize she could not take it. We just used other alternatives if necessary. |
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | ampratt - 2014-09-16 1:02 PM Has anyone had this experience with bute? Horse not firing during run, gassy, tail raised like they are having gastric distress. It wasn't given daily just given once before a long weekend of running. Just curious if this has happened to anyone else. I can't think of anything else that would have bothered him. Nothing else was done differently. This has happened 3 times.
Just a question, but why do you bute you're horse to run? |
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| I had a mare, who was a hoover and eat anything anytime, except with bute, woukd go,off her feed. Its awlful hard in the gut, banimne is too but not as bad. Have you tried prevaicox thats better yet. |
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| I wont use it,,there are other things you can use. I know it is cheap and easy to get. Never had much luck with it. |
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     Location: Somewhere between S@% stirrer and Saint | Bute given at maintenance levels of 1-2 grams will not cause ulcers. Backed up by research. |
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    Location: Central Texas | Southtxponygirl - 2014-09-16 7:01 PM
ampratt - 2014-09-16 1:02 PM Has anyone had this experience with bute? Horse not firing during run, gassy, tail raised like they are having gastric distress. It wasn't given daily just given once before a long weekend of running. Just curious if this has happened to anyone else. I can't think of anything else that would have bothered him. Nothing else was done differently. This has happened 3 times.
Just a question, but why do you bute you're horse to run?
I do not bute my horse very often at all. The times I did it was because it was a long weekend of running and hauling. The same reason people take NSAIDS, to relieve any minor discomfort from possible over exertion. |
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    Location: Central Texas | run n rate - 2014-09-16 4:57 PM
My gelding cannot have Bute orally, he acts colicky within about 10 minutes of administration orally. He has had it successfully IV after an operation to remove some scar tissue.
Mine has similiar reactions. I am thinking he is just very sensitive to it. I will not be using it any more. I have purchased a magnectic blanket and leg wraps. I will just use those at the times we have a long hard weekend. I don't think it is ulcers. I periodically treat with omeprazole and he is on a maintenance digestive supplement. Thanks to all for the info! |
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    Location: Central Texas | Swannranch - 2014-09-16 5:54 PM
We had a mare that had weird reactions to Bute...she would drool and drop her ears out...looked like she had a tranq. She would not fire either, ran like she was half asleep. It only took 2 times to realize she could not take it. We just used other alternatives if necessary.
Definitely, this!
She would not fire either, ran like she was half asleep |
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          Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | Douglas J Gordon - 2014-09-17 5:00 AM Bute given at maintenance levels of 1-2 grams will not cause ulcers. Backed up by research.
Just like people, horses are individuals. I can't take naproxen sodium without my digestive system violently rebelling, but most people do really well on it. |
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| Three 4 Luck - 2014-09-17 8:26 AM
Douglas J Gordon - 2014-09-17 5:00 AM Bute given at maintenance levels of 1-2 grams will not cause ulcers. Backed up by research.
Just like people, horses are individuals. I can't take naproxen sodium without my digestive system violently rebelling, but most people do really well on it.
I agree. I'm not opposed to using bute and always have it on hand. However for long term treatment I prefer previcox, and my gelding just doesn't tolerate it welll so I avoid it with him. |
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