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Rad Dork
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Location: Oklahoma | Anyone care to share what they paid for suspensory injury treatments? I am most likely going to start shockwave pretty quickly (looking at $125 plus sedative) but I'm curious what PRP and surgeries would cost. Lameness locator picked it up and ultrasound showed swelling/inflammation, but no tears. It's the back right proximal.
Please share your pricing if you're comfortable. If not, please atleast share what treatments did the most help! |
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 Shelter Dog Lover
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| Mine had a 40% tear, high hind right, tore bone off, PRP was $900 out a year but made complete recovery. Used runners relief, iced and magnets. |
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  Neat Freak
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | I am curious too.
Where do you get the runners relief? I am dealing with a strained ligament, he never told me what one, but it is in the left front leg. One that holds the pastern bone tight into the coffin joint area. He does really good for a week and then I will find him holding that toe out a bit. I wasn't told to do anything other than corral rest. No stall, but no pasture. Was told 2 months was a good time frame for him to be doing really well and it has been a month. He wears PHT bells up high over that area 27/7 unless I have this Respond Magnetic Pulse boot on him twice a day for 30 minutes. http://www.respondsystems.com/store/item.asp?Category=127&SubCategoryID=&GroupID=&SKU=SALEG
I would love to do whatever I can...I think the surgeries are out of the question and the vet never mentioned them for him as he never tore anything away from the bone. |
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| Runners Relief Poultice. Respond Laser and Theraplate. BOT wraps. I feed Structural Build, Pain Away and Neprofin AVF. Horse made complete recovery. Was out 90 days |
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Location: Sunny So Cal | THE NutraWOUND, BOT Wraps and Shockwave therapy |
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Neat Freak
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | Cowgirl Kat - 2014-09-16 5:10 PM THE NutraWOUND, BOT Wraps and Shockwave therapy
I wish I had someone that had the shockwave close to me. He is on NutraWOUND in the am and NitrOxide in the pm. |
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Rad Dork
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Location: Oklahoma | rodeomom3 - 2014-09-16 5:30 PM Mine had a 40% tear, high hind right, tore bone off, PRP was $900 out a year but made complete recovery. Used runners relief, iced and magnets.
Do you know if PRP varies in cost by severity? Your story is very inspiring... I hope I can get a full recovery as I've only had the horse about four months and only made about 10 runs! Never even got to really click with him!
I will get some Runners Relief, have BOT wraps and I might can get access to a Theraplate. |
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Shelter Dog Lover
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| Longneck - 2014-09-16 7:21 PM rodeomom3 - 2014-09-16 5:30 PM Mine had a 40% tear, high hind right, tore bone off, PRP was $900 out a year but made complete recovery. Used runners relief, iced and magnets. Do you know if PRP varies in cost by severity? Your story is very inspiring... I hope I can get a full recovery as I've only had the horse about four months and only made about 10 runs! Never even got to really click with him!
I will get some Runners Relief, have BOT wraps and I might can get access to a Theraplate.
I have no idea, mine was done about 4 years ago and was considered a severe case with not much chance of recovery. |
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Location: Mississippi | PRP ($800), BOT wraps, Runners Relief & 18 months off. |
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Location: Texas | I did PRP and I can remember but I think it was between 1000 and 1500. Might hAve been less it has been a few years since then. He was back running in 4 months and made a full recovery. His was not not able to the naked eye. He was not limping lame or full on swelling anywhere. I just knew he was not right. My particular vet did not feel shockwave was the best treatment for him. He felt PRP was best treatment and then stall rest and hand walking for one month and turned out the rest. I also did magnetic tendon wraps to help it along. |
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Rad Dork
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Location: Oklahoma | barrelbasher - 2014-09-16 7:54 PM I did PRP and I can remember but I think it was between 1000 and 1500. Might hAve been less it has been a few years since then. He was back running in 4 months and made a full recovery. His was not not able to the naked eye. He was not limping lame or full on swelling anywhere. I just knew he was not right. My particular vet did not feel shockwave was the best treatment for him. He felt PRP was best treatment and then stall rest and hand walking for one month and turned out the rest. I also did magnetic tendon wraps to help it along.
This sounds very, very similar! Never had an issue with flex tests, but I know he wasn't the same horse I bought at beginning of May. Lameness locator and blocks pinpointed it for us! No heat or limping, but I just had a gut feeling it was something serious. |
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Location: Texas | Longneck - 2014-09-16 9:22 PM
barrelbasher - 2014-09-16 7:54 PM I did PRP and I can remember but I think it was between 1000 and 1500. Might hAve been less it has been a few years since then. He was back running in 4 months and made a full recovery. His was not not able to the naked eye. He was not limping lame or full on swelling anywhere. I just knew he was not right. My particular vet did not feel shockwave was the best treatment for him. He felt PRP was best treatment and then stall rest and hand walking for one month and turned out the rest. I also did magnetic tendon wraps to help it along.
This sounds very, very similar! Never had an issue with flex tests, but I know he wasn't the same horse I bought at beginning of May. Lameness locator and blocks pinpointed it for us! No heat or limping, but I just had a gut feeling it was something serious.
Go with your gut. We know when our kids are not right |
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Rad Dork
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Location: Oklahoma | For those of you that did Runners Relief: how long did you do the 12 hour periods for? Will I really need to cotton, plastic and then polo wrap? Will it work the same if I just do cotton and plastic wrap?
Thanks for the replies, everyone! |
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Shelter Dog Lover
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| Longneck - 2014-09-16 10:42 PM For those of you that did Runners Relief: how long did you do the 12 hour periods for? Will I really need to cotton, plastic and then polo wrap? Will it work the same if I just do cotton and plastic wrap? Thanks for the replies, everyone! I left it on all night, I don't remember if it was 12 hours, may have been more. I used the cheapest disposble diapers I could buy, with the plastic lining figured they would do the same job as plastic wrap. I cut them in 1/2 and placed where I needed them to be then wrapped with a bandage/standing wrap-used the same ace bandage til it gave out. The diapers were much easier and quicker than plastic wrap and cotton.
My horse too never showed any lameness, never had swelling, just would not work his left barrel. My mistake was not going back to my same vet after what he tried did not work and letting him dig deeper into what could be hurting but going to a new vet thinking we needed a different set of eyes on it. None of the vets I went to though had a lameness locator at the time. I will say each vet really put him through the paces looking for him to be off- he never showed a hint of being off.
Edited by rodeomom3 2014-09-17 6:37 AM
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Location: Central Texas | Mine had some disrupted fiber patterns in the SDFT and SL. Did PRP, 3 injections, 2 weeks apart. Total cost $350.00 |
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Location: In the rockies. | Longneck - 2014-09-17 6:21 AM rodeomom3 - 2014-09-16 5:30 PM Mine had a 40% tear, high hind right, tore bone off, PRP was $900 out a year but made complete recovery. Used runners relief, iced and magnets. Do you know if PRP varies in cost by severity? Your story is very inspiring... I hope I can get a full recovery as I've only had the horse about four months and only made about 10 runs! Never even got to really click with him!
I will get some Runners Relief, have BOT wraps and I might can get access to a Theraplate.
What is PRP?
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 Tough Patooty
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Location: Sperry, OK | If there are no tears, what exactly would you use the PRP for? Don't you just use PRP, bone marrow, ect.. when you have a hole (tear) to heal? |
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Rad Dork
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Location: Oklahoma | ACEINTHEHOLE - 2014-09-17 8:25 AM If there are no tears, what exactly would you use the PRP for? Don't you just use PRP, bone marrow, ect.. when you have a hole (tear) to heal?
Ahh, I didn't even think about that! I guess I'm not trying to regenerate the area! |
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Tough Patooty
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Location: Sperry, OK | Longneck - 2014-09-17 8:42 AM ACEINTHEHOLE - 2014-09-17 8:25 AM If there are no tears, what exactly would you use the PRP for? Don't you just use PRP, bone marrow, ect.. when you have a hole (tear) to heal? Ahh, I didn't even think about that! I guess I'm not trying to regenerate the area!
I would for sure do the shockwave, then even wrap with BOT quick wraps and use sore no more linement. |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | rodeomom3 - 2014-09-16 5:30 PM Mine had a 40% tear, high hind right, tore bone off, PRP was $900 out a year but made complete recovery. Used runners relief, iced and magnets.
Good Lord! $900 for PRP? My vet does it for $100 per site. The most I paid with another vet was $250 per site. |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | ACEINTHEHOLE - 2014-09-17 8:25 AM If there are no tears, what exactly would you use the PRP for? Don't you just use PRP, bone marrow, ect.. when you have a hole (tear) to heal?
It stimulates healing and has short term painkiller properties, so it can be used for lots of things. I had my horse's front ankles done last spring to try to stimulate cartilage regeneration. I haven't xrayed to check progress, but I can tell you he's traveling better. |
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Rad Dork
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Location: Oklahoma | ACEINTHEHOLE - 2014-09-17 8:52 AM Longneck - 2014-09-17 8:42 AM ACEINTHEHOLE - 2014-09-17 8:25 AM If there are no tears, what exactly would you use the PRP for? Don't you just use PRP, bone marrow, ect.. when you have a hole (tear) to heal? Ahh, I didn't even think about that! I guess I'm not trying to regenerate the area!
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Tough Patooty
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Location: Sperry, OK | Three 4 Luck - 2014-09-17 9:08 AM ACEINTHEHOLE - 2014-09-17 8:25 AM If there are no tears, what exactly would you use the PRP for? Don't you just use PRP, bone marrow, ect.. when you have a hole (tear) to heal? It stimulates healing and has short term painkiller properties, so it can be used for lots of things. I had my horse's front ankles done last spring to try to stimulate cartilage regeneration. I haven't xrayed to check progress, but I can tell you he's traveling better.
Correct, but cartilage regeneration is something to "heal", but this suspensory it just inflammed, no damage done yet.. so nothing really to "heal". Just needs to increase blood flow to remove the inflammation and ease the strain. |
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Rad Dork
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Location: Oklahoma | Three 4 Luck - 2014-09-17 9:08 AM ACEINTHEHOLE - 2014-09-17 8:25 AM If there are no tears, what exactly would you use the PRP for? Don't you just use PRP, bone marrow, ect.. when you have a hole (tear) to heal? It stimulates healing and has short term painkiller properties, so it can be used for lots of things. I had my horse's front ankles done last spring to try to stimulate cartilage regeneration. I haven't xrayed to check progress, but I can tell you he's traveling better.
That's really interesting... I might have another horse that I would like to look into that! His is in his hocks, though. He was a 2/5 at the end of winter this year. I opted to do a one time hock injection to help him move around in the pasture. Do you think PRP would help him out to just be a light (i.e. 9 year old girl learning to ride) riding horse? |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | ACEINTHEHOLE - 2014-09-17 9:19 AM Three 4 Luck - 2014-09-17 9:08 AM ACEINTHEHOLE - 2014-09-17 8:25 AM If there are no tears, what exactly would you use the PRP for? Don't you just use PRP, bone marrow, ect.. when you have a hole (tear) to heal? It stimulates healing and has short term painkiller properties, so it can be used for lots of things. I had my horse's front ankles done last spring to try to stimulate cartilage regeneration. I haven't xrayed to check progress, but I can tell you he's traveling better.
If something is inflamed, it needs healing even if there is no visible damage. PRP does increase circulation to the area in which it's injected. It contains concentrated healing factors, and also behaves as a mild counter-irritant, from what I have seen. |
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 Night Watchman
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Location: Central Montana | For my own knowledge.....what gets injected when using PRP for suspensory injuries?
For comparision what do you pay for PRP and for shockwave therapy in your area? Where is "your area?"
I live in central Montana and I'm pretty sure there are no vets that do shockwave in this area. |
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Location: North Dakota | wyoming barrel racer - 2014-09-16 5:40 PM I am curious too.
Where do you get the runners relief? I am dealing with a strained ligament, he never told me what one, but it is in the left front leg. One that holds the pastern bone tight into the coffin joint area. He does really good for a week and then I will find him holding that toe out a bit. I wasn't told to do anything other than corral rest. No stall, but no pasture. Was told 2 months was a good time frame for him to be doing really well and it has been a month. He wears PHT bells up high over that area 27/7 unless I have this Respond Magnetic Pulse boot on him twice a day for 30 minutes. http://www.respondsystems.com/store/item.asp?Category=127&SubCategoryID=&GroupID=&SKU=SALEG
I would love to do whatever I can...I think the surgeries are out of the question and the vet never mentioned them for him as he never tore anything away from the bone.
Best price I have come across.
http://www.besthorsegear.com/collections/runner-s-relief |
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Location: Florida | PRP is a beneficial therapy for many issues, injuries. Price varries depending on the Dr. treating. Unfortunatelty there are some "people" who will skimp and use a regular serum seperator tube and not a true PRP tube (big difference). The tubes are costly so how much serum you needs (locations) is where your price would very.
I would put a fair price at $450 per site on average but varries $150-2600. I would be leary of anyone doing it too cheep, that they are not using the correct tubes.
We do PRP along with Steile Homeopathics, Prolozone on some high clientele and charge $250-450 depending on the site (how difficult) what type of prep is involved and weather a local or general is required.
Editied to add, PRP (Platelet Rich Plasma) is the use of you own live cells, to regroup and regenerate the cells in an injured area. Everyone is diffrerent and some Dr's will use additive, some do a MISO therapy several small injections over the area, more shallow believe that after a certain amount of time has gone but that the body just fees it is finished healing and comes to a stopping point that the mild injury to the area along with cells with trigger the body to begin the healing process again.
Edited by bigbob 2014-10-12 9:02 PM
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