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Location: Arkansas | Teeth are not problem...vet checks out just fine>? What am i missing?
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Location: MD | is she burnt out?
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Location: North Dakota | Load your video on youtube and paste in the link. I'm going to be the first to say the horse is sore.......even though you don't think there is any possible way! They don't come undone because they are vindictive or "human", provided you are riding the horse correctly.  |
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Location: Oklahoma | I will tell you.. I had one. Did it any way you took him, countless vets, dollars, and nothing could fix him. No training, no drugs, nothing. I could baby him across the pen, but if you let him really run and try to clock, you were not getting to the 2nd, but 1st and 3rd were great! |
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Location: Arkansas | clover girl - 2014-09-18 3:09 PM
I will tell you.. I had one. Did it any way you took him, countless vets, dollars, and nothing could fix him. No training, no drugs, nothing. I could baby him across the pen, but if you let him really run and try to clock, you were not getting to the 2nd, but 1st and 3rd were great!
This is what this mare is doing exactly. She is 7 yrs. old, the last couple of years has been taken to maybe 8 shows a year, so i wouldn't think she's burnt out, but is worked several days a week and also trail ridden quiet a bit. Just had her chiro'ed....Also the once or twice i've managed to keep her from turning in front of the barrel when i pull to ask her to finish the turn on the 2nd she throws her head up in the air and pulls the opposite direction. She doesn't do this at home in our practice arena at any speed, that's why i don't think she's sore, only does it at a show. Thanks for the imput. |
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Location: At the race track with Ah Dee Ohs | moorehorses - 2014-09-18 3:34 PM clover girl - 2014-09-18 3:09 PM I will tell you.. I had one. Did it any way you took him, countless vets, dollars, and nothing could fix him. No training, no drugs, nothing. I could baby him across the pen, but if you let him really run and try to clock, you were not getting to the 2nd, but 1st and 3rd were great! This is what this mare is doing exactly. She is 7 yrs. old, the last couple of years has been taken to maybe 8 shows a year, so i wouldn't think she's burnt out, but is worked several days a week and also trail ridden quiet a bit. Just had her chiro'ed....Also the once or twice i've managed to keep her from turning in front of the barrel when i pull to ask her to finish the turn on the 2nd she throws her head up in the air and pulls the opposite direction. She doesn't do this at home in our practice arena at any speed, that's why i don't think she's sore, only does it at a show. Thanks for the imput.
I'm gonna have to agree with the above. If she's throwing her head in the air and pulling..she is trying to get away from something that is hurting. |
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Location: Arkansas | I added the video
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Location: Finally horseback again.... | I know you think that the mare isnt sore and her teeth are good, but from the video:
1. the mare is gapping her mouth and head in the air which usually indicates lower 11 ramps, upper 6 hooks and possibly a steep incisor angle
2. you are using both hands and not going to the horn in your turn so you appear to be behind her a bit when she is headed to the second, you may be unintentionally asking her to turn by trying to get yourself ready for the second turn
3. You appear that you are not very secure in your saddle from the second to the third and having a hard time staying down in the seat. Please dont think I am picking on you at all, I do it sometimes too, but this in itself can cause back pain on your horse along with the dental abnormalities I mentioned above.
It looks like you might be riding in a treeless, have you tried a treed saddle that might make you a little more secure and keep her back from taking as much strain?
I would recommend getting really qualified dental care and a good lameness exam on her as well as saddle fit for you both.
Best of luck to you.
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Location: North Dakota | Ok , here goes....It looks to me like she wants to run away with you.....before she even gets around the first completely she's got that look in her eye.
A few suggestions, shorten your reins and your stirrups, and walk and trot the pattern more without getting her on the muscle, emphasize every part of the pattern not just the run. That means rate at point X, turn at point Y, transition at point Z and so on.
Is she a hot mess?? She sure looks big and strong enough to do whatever she wants to do with you.
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Location: Cap'n Joan Rotgut.....alberta | Canchasr1 - 2014-09-19 2:58 PM I know you think that the mare isnt sore and her teeth are good, but from the video:
1. the mare is gapping her mouth and head in the air which usually indicates lower 11 ramps, upper 6 hooks and possibly a steep incisor angle
2. you are using both hands and not going to the horn in your turn so you appear to be behind her a bit when she is headed to the second, you may be unintentionally asking her to turn by trying to get yourself ready for the second turn
3. You appear that you are not very secure in your saddle from the second to the third and having a hard time staying down in the seat. Please dont think I am picking on you at all, I do it sometimes too, but this in itself can cause back pain on your horse along with the dental abnormalities I mentioned above.
It looks like you might be riding in a treeless, have you tried a treed saddle that might make you a little more secure and keep her back from taking as much strain?
I would recommend getting really qualified dental care and a good lameness exam on her as well as saddle fit for you both.
Best of luck to you.
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Location: WYOMING | You are leaning and pulling all over her face the second you leave the first barrel, first one direction then the next. She sure is confused and not at all confident on what you are asking.
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Location: Arkansas | Canchasr1 - 2014-09-18 3:58 PM
I know you think that the mare isnt sore and her teeth are good, but from the video:
1. the mare is gapping her mouth and head in the air which usually indicates lower 11 ramps, upper 6 hooks and possibly a steep incisor angle
2. you are using both hands and not going to the horn in your turn so you appear to be behind her a bit when she is headed to the second, you may be unintentionally asking her to turn by trying to get yourself ready for the second turn
3. You appear that you are not very secure in your saddle from the second to the third and having a hard time staying down in the seat. Please dont think I am picking on you at all, I do it sometimes too, but this in itself can cause back pain on your horse along with the dental abnormalities I mentioned above.
It looks like you might be riding in a treeless, have you tried a treed saddle that might make you a little more secure and keep her back from taking as much strain?
I would recommend getting really qualified dental care and a good lameness exam on her as well as saddle fit for you both.
Best of luck to you.
No offense taken as this is actually a friend riding her....we have both tried running her and even though i have had more success with her than she has, she has done this to both of us. Thanks for your insights.
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| I think you need to find friend who is a very good, experienced and quiet rider to try this mare for you. Your friend may be making the situation worse... she is trying to balance by using the horse's face, which is ticking her off and making her wonder wtf is going on up there. when you know a horse does XYZ on a pattern you tend to anticpate it even if you don't mean to, and without knowing it you end up "sitting" prior to second in anticipation and wham, she turns. could be pain, definitely, but she needs a solid, confident rider to hustle her thru and see what she does.
she does look like she wants to be naughty, but she isn't running, and thus has time to think about other things - like being naughty... |
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Location: Nashvegas | After watching the video I can see two big things. First, this horse is sore in her back end. She is sticking her toes and not gathering up from behind at all, even in straight lines. Second, is that the riders needs to quiet your hands/seat and legs. But I just saw where you said this isn't you....well, we need to see what she is doing with you. Your friend is not hleping this mare at all. She is all over the place and too rigid. This is a big reason this mare is acting this way in the video. Yes, she is being bad but some of that comes from rider error and not enough sloooow work as another posted mentioned. She needs softened up but she needs a soft confident rider for that. I would definitely get a vet to look at her, though.
eta - that this wasn't the poster riding, but moorehorses I meant everything before my edit. :) I do appreciate the courage it took to post on here and everything else I have said.
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Location: Arkansas | I totally agree cwgrl!!! Thank you.
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| I'd like to add another thought. You said she doesn't do this at home, but does it at the 2nd barrel going either direction. Could she be gate sour? You're fighting her from the back side of the 1st. I've seen a lot of horses that lack confidence that try to head back out the arena, and that's kind of what it looks like to me. |
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Location: Cap'n Joan Rotgut.....alberta | how old is this horse and how broke is she
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | I see that your stirrups are to long, you look very unbalance, you have way to much movement in your arms/hands, you need to get your hands down. Can you take some barrel lessons from someone that you know so that they can help you? Your horse is very very confused in what you are asking of her/him. Try shortening your stirrups a bit so that you can get up in your turns you are bouncing a whole lot. You balancing off her face. Please dont take me being mean but this is what I am seeing. 
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Location: In The Snow, AZ | A lot of herky jerky going on on that poor horses face.... |
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Location: Arkansas | mruggles - 2014-09-18 4:17 PM
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Your saddle looks like a Bob Marshall, and some times riding in a treeless is a no no for some people. What brand is it? |
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Location: Finally horseback again.... | moorehorses - 2014-09-18 4:34 PM mruggles - 2014-09-18 4:17 PM how old is this horse and how broke is she
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Location: Arkansas | Thanks everyone...i am just trying to help a friend out, as she wants to do whats best for this mare. |
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Location: North Dakota | moorehorses - 2014-09-18 4:34 PM
mruggles - 2014-09-18 4:17 PM
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She's 7 and extremely broke, but a little fragile minded....
aka "hot mess" she needs to slooow down. Examine her feed, bring her brain back down to reality-NO RUNNING-anywhere! Kick her out for a few months and bring her back slow if she's been used a bunch for her 7 years, if not, get someone to cowboy on her for a few months, treat her for ulcers. She's on the verge of being a complete runaway and fooling anyone that gets on her-spoiled comes to mind...teach her that running barrels is the easiest work EVER. |
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Location: NE Texas | It looks to me like she wants to try to work, but the inconsistency of the rider and them balancing on her mouth the entire run are not only sending her mixed signals but probably making her mad. I know if any of mine were ridden like that, they wouldn't work very well either. I would encourage you to find someone who is a very good, quiet, solid jockey....someone who is capable of staying out of her way and touching her mouth only if needed and see what happens. I think she's just lacking consistency, is confused by all the signals she's getting every step she takes, and just needs someone quiet and consistent with their cues to help build her confidence.
If this mare is 7, she's likely not a finished horse, and if she's very broke at all, the constant pulling on her mouth and imbalance problems would exacerbate her doing something like this. On my horses, if you wiggle your pinky finger it means something to them and they will respond. If this mare has a nice handle on her, she's likely to be so confused just because of the contact with her mouth. She needs a quiet, confidence building rider....not a rider who's trying to build their confidence.
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Location: Arkansas | Herbie - 2014-09-18 4:44 PM
It looks to me like she wants to try to work, but the inconsistency of the rider and them balancing on her mouth the entire run are not only sending her mixed signals but probably making her mad. I know if any of mine were ridden like that, they wouldn't work very well either. I would encourage you to find someone who is a very good, quiet, solid jockey....someone who is capable of staying out of her way and touching her mouth only if needed and see what happens. I think she's just lacking consistency, is confused by all the signals she's getting every step she takes, and just needs someone quiet and consistent with their cues to help build her confidence.
If this mare is 7, she's likely not a finished horse, and if she's very broke at all, the constant pulling on her mouth and imbalance problems would exacerbate her doing something like this. On my horses, if you wiggle your pinky finger it means something to them and they will respond. If this mare has a nice handle on her, she's likely to be so confused just because of the contact with her mouth. She needs a quiet, confidence building rider....not a rider who's trying to build their confidence.
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | moorehorses - 2014-09-18 4:41 PM It's the Circle Y Just B Natural saddle
You may need to go to a treed saddle, in this saddle you bounce to much and thats really hard on a horse back. And they can feel every move that you make. I would have someone else ride her thats got quite hands and seat. |
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Location: Finally horseback again.... | Herbie - 2014-09-18 4:44 PM It looks to me like she wants to try to work, but the inconsistency of the rider and them balancing on her mouth the entire run are not only sending her mixed signals but probably making her mad. I know if any of mine were ridden like that, they wouldn't work very well either. I would encourage you to find someone who is a very good, quiet, solid jockey....someone who is capable of staying out of her way and touching her mouth only if needed and see what happens. I think she's just lacking consistency, is confused by all the signals she's getting every step she takes, and just needs someone quiet and consistent with their cues to help build her confidence.
If this mare is 7, she's likely not a finished horse, and if she's very broke at all, the constant pulling on her mouth and imbalance problems would exacerbate her doing something like this. On my horses, if you wiggle your pinky finger it means something to them and they will respond. If this mare has a nice handle on her, she's likely to be so confused just because of the contact with her mouth. She needs a quiet, confidence building rider....not a rider who's trying to build their confidence.
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Location: The edge of no where | Herbie - 2014-09-18 4:44 PM It looks to me like she wants to try to work, but the inconsistency of the rider and them balancing on her mouth the entire run are not only sending her mixed signals but probably making her mad. I know if any of mine were ridden like that, they wouldn't work very well either. I would encourage you to find someone who is a very good, quiet, solid jockey....someone who is capable of staying out of her way and touching her mouth only if needed and see what happens. I think she's just lacking consistency, is confused by all the signals she's getting every step she takes, and just needs someone quiet and consistent with their cues to help build her confidence.
If this mare is 7, she's likely not a finished horse, and if she's very broke at all, the constant pulling on her mouth and imbalance problems would exacerbate her doing something like this. On my horses, if you wiggle your pinky finger it means something to them and they will respond. If this mare has a nice handle on her, she's likely to be so confused just because of the contact with her mouth. She needs a quiet, confidence building rider....not a rider who's trying to build their confidence.
I rather like the horse.....would love to see a good jockey on it and see what happens.
The current rider really needs lots of work on balance and hands before trying to run anything. I'd try to find someone really tough to ride with a few times a week to work on my seat. Lot of filming and studying the films before making more of a mess of what seems to be a pretty nice horse.
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| She looks sore in the rear, she does not change leads behind the first like she should and when she ismyanking on her at the second the strides of rear legs look wierd, and same thing at third. The video was not very good so it is really hard to tell. she is 7 prime age for hocks, stifles, suspensories. |
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| Not to be rude or anything but why would you ask what you are doing wrong then post a video of a friend running your horse? You have gotten a lot of excellent advice for your horse but if you really want to help the mare you might want to post a video of your riding so people can tell you if some of the issues are from your style of riding. |
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Location: At the race track with Ah Dee Ohs | Herbie - 2014-09-18 4:44 PM It looks to me like she wants to try to work, but the inconsistency of the rider and them balancing on her mouth the entire run are not only sending her mixed signals but probably making her mad. I know if any of mine were ridden like that, they wouldn't work very well either. I would encourage you to find someone who is a very good, quiet, solid jockey....someone who is capable of staying out of her way and touching her mouth only if needed and see what happens. I think she's just lacking consistency, is confused by all the signals she's getting every step she takes, and just needs someone quiet and consistent with their cues to help build her confidence.
If this mare is 7, she's likely not a finished horse, and if she's very broke at all, the constant pulling on her mouth and imbalance problems would exacerbate her doing something like this. On my horses, if you wiggle your pinky finger it means something to them and they will respond. If this mare has a nice handle on her, she's likely to be so confused just because of the contact with her mouth. She needs a quiet, confidence building rider....not a rider who's trying to build their confidence.
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Location: Arkansas | cavlier - 2014-09-18 6:47 PM
Not to be rude or anything but why would you ask what you are doing wrong then post a video of a friend running your horse? You have gotten a lot of excellent advice for your horse but if you really want to help the mare you might want to post a video of your riding so people can tell you if some of the issues are from your style of riding.
I never said I own this horse. I said I am trying to help a friend & I said I have made some runs on her, none of which were videoed. Thanks. |
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| 7 is the prime age for sore hocks to start kicking up. This can happen over just a few months. I would get her in to a good lameness vet, she's not holding her leads in the back and just seems to be stabbing her legs forward each step. After a full lameness exam (no country cow vets please), work with a tiny o-ring with a martingale, a saddle that really fits, and long, slow casual work gathering her back into herself would probably really help. Ed Wright drills would be very beneficial for horse and rider.
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| moorehorses - 2014-09-18 4:39 PM
Thanks everyone...i am just trying to help a friend out, as she wants to do whats best for this mare.
This is going to sound really harsh. Your friend needs to develop balance and strength in her riding away from a barrel pattern. |
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Location: Red Raiderland | bennie1 - 2014-09-18 9:16 PM moorehorses - 2014-09-18 4:39 PM Thanks everyone...i am just trying to help a friend out, as she wants to do whats best for this mare. This is going to sound really harsh. Your friend needs to develop balance and strength in her riding away from a barrel pattern.
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| This mare is sore. The backend. I would say hocks and stifles. |
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| She looks sore and really confused. I would bring her back down to a trot around the barrels but before trying the barrels again. See if she can walk,trot, and lope in a straight line without a whole lot of hands on the reins. If your horse is broke, she should be able to move in a straight line with minimal help. She looks super stiff from head to toe. Im not sure if she does that because the rider is tense or if she isnt super soft throughout her body. Is there anyway you can post a video of slow arena work? |
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Location: Arkansas | Thanks everyone for your insights. She has decided to sell her mare & just trail ride her other horse. She raised this mare & had hopes & dreams but knows its not going to happen for her so she is doing whats best for her horse. Broken dreams breaks my heart. We will make sure she goes to a good home where she will receive great care & continued training. I've ridden her & believe she has tons of potential with the right rider & care. |
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | moorehorses - 2014-09-20 10:16 AM Thanks everyone for your insights. She has decided to sell her mare & just trail ride her other horse. She raised this mare & had hopes & dreams but knows its not going to happen for her so she is doing whats best for her horse. Broken dreams breaks my heart. We will make sure she goes to a good home where she will receive great care & continued training. I've ridden her & believe she has tons of potential with the right rider & care.
I hate making decisions like that. Sometimes riders/horses just don't jive together. She might go on to a new rider and she'll do well. |
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Location: In a happy place | moorehorses - 2014-09-20 10:16 AM Thanks everyone for your insights. She has decided to sell her mare & just trail ride her other horse. She raised this mare & had hopes & dreams but knows its not going to happen for her so she is doing whats best for her horse. Broken dreams breaks my heart. We will make sure she goes to a good home where she will receive great care & continued training. I've ridden her & believe she has tons of potential with the right rider & care.
It is sad when your dreams don't come to fruition. I am sorry it turned out this way. But I truly think this is best for the horse and your friend. Bless your heart for reaching out to help her. Hopefully this just isn't the right time and maybe your friend will still have her dream come true some time in the future. |
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Location: Arkansas | I have decided to buy this horse, so
#1 i will be taking her to Dr. Donald Vice in Madison, MS for a thorough exam
#2 depending on what he says we will trail ride and slow work once a week and if i still am having problems
#3 CALL DANNY REINHARDT and setup a lesson with him
Please say a prayer that i can help this mare....she is such a sweetheart. 
Also i told my friend she can still trail ride her because i will now own 6 horses and need all the help i can get getting them all rode.
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Location: The edge of no where | moorehorses - 2014-09-23 8:10 AM I have decided to buy this horse, so #1 i will be taking her to Dr. Donald Vice in Madison, MS for a thorough exam #2 depending on what he says we will trail ride and slow work once a week and if i still am having problems #3 CALL DANNY REINHARDT and setup a lesson with him Please say a prayer that i can help this mare....she is such a sweetheart. Also i told my friend she can still trail ride her because i will now own 6 horses and need all the help i can get getting them all rode.
Great!!!! The horse didn't look sore so much to me as terribly confused. If you can convince your friend to work on her horsemanship and balance, it will help tremendously. I hate for someone to have to make a decision like that, but it does seem to be best for this mare. Good luck with her! I like her! |
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Location: Arkansas | Do i need to draw up a sales agreement regarding pre-purchase exam? If so, what would you put on it? Thanks for your help! We are close friends so i don't want any hard feelings... |
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Location: Arkansas | So does anyone think i am crazy for buying this horse with this problem? Would you buy?
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Location: Finally horseback again.... | moorehorses - 2014-09-23 12:35 PM So does anyone think i am crazy for buying this horse with this problem? Would you buy?
Nope not if you have the ability to fix her.
I have taken a ton of blown up horses and turned them around very successfully.
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Location: Arkansas | Well she arrived at my house yesterday around 5p.m. and i pasture rode her in a jr. cowhorse bit with the dogbone snaffle 3 piece, but she rides beautifully off just your feet and legs. Even though she has been ridden in my pasture quiet a bit with my friend, she was nervous & looky but remained totally in control and did everything i asked her to do. We just long trotted around the pasture for about 15 mins. or so, then i took her in the arena and just loped big and medium size collected circles with her. She stopped really good, but backing up she wasn't as responsive as moving laterally or forward off my legs so she may be sore. I know she had a chiropractic adjustment a little over a month ago & was really sore in the rear that day. We have an appt. with Dr. Vice Friday the 3rd for a thorough checkup. She was already entered in a 2 day run this weekend so i think i'm going to take her but maybe just lope her thru the pattern making sure we stay correct....any thoughts????? Thanks for your help.
Also she was feeding her 3#'s of 12% sweet feed twice a day, so i have started gradually changing her over to the Standlee alfalfa pellets that i feed my other 2 competition mares, plus i gave her 1 TBSP human grade MSM, & 2 scoops of Muscle Mass with calm/focus, moody mare, & joint added in from T.H.E., and 1/4 of a large Previcox. |
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Veteran
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Location: Heart of Texas | If you really think the horse is sore, i wouldn't run her. You could do more damage. Not only physically but mentally. She could start associating barrels with pain. |
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Special Somebody
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Location: Finally horseback again.... | I agree with getting her off the sweet feed.
Not a fan at all.
I had one that sweet feed caused him to be body sore all over due to increase in lactic acide build up.
Horses are not made to eat sugars.
I definitely would not run her. Give her the time she needs to reset her mind and learn what you want and get her vet checked.
I think you would be setting her back further than she already is.
Edited by Canchasr1 2014-09-24 12:00 PM
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UPDATE PG 3:SHE ARRIVED-now need advice on my feed & supplement plan for her.