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Location: lone star state | With all the attention dual peppy has brought to the world regarding neglected and starving horses, what should/could be done to prevent this from happening to other horses? |
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Location: In The Land of Cotton | Well, I guess we as individuals in our own areas need to see if we can or are willing to help when we see a case. I know that there was one down the road from me. I rode by it for about two months and then decided to say something. I went and knocked on the door. It turns out the horse was/is 32 years old. He was in a little more then poor shape. The owners thanked me for my concern. I did notice that they went to round bales instead of throwing him hay. And in the mornings he was "waiting by a gate" which told me he was getting fed and was waiting for his "candy". So, in my case it worked.
We all have access to the internet and a phone. It will depend on how we are as individuals are concerned and to what lengths we are willing to go to help. |
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 A Somebody to Everybody
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | There's not a darn thing anyone can do to stop this kind of abuse. It will happen as long as there is horses and animals out there. Just think of all the ones that are straving out there right now that nobody knows about. Just so sad.
Maybe if more will stop when they do see something that dont look right to them, but there is cases of straving animals that people cant see because they are hiding from the puplic.
Edited by Southtxponygirl 2014-09-23 10:51 AM
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I just read the headlines
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| There is nothing anyone can do to make sure no horse ever starves or is abused again. We can't even make sure children in our own country don't go hungry. |
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Location: Somewhere in the middle of nowhere | There are people that live down the road from us, they constantly bring horses in and out and it is always after dark....you rarely see them feeding them. The place is 4 acres and usually has 10 head of hungry horses and they never maintain the fences and everyone has seen how hungry horses can push on a fence..... |
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Location: lone star state | Do you think its happening more with no slaughter in America or is the economy or weather or other factors to blame?
Do you think education, awareness or other things will allow those horses being neglected to get help. Or is this simply a product of who some people are and it won't ever change? For example pets, have the spay/neuter programs worked? Are more people aware of unwanted pets because of education?
I am just brainstorming out loud so to speak. I know all to well the child abuse neglect is at an all time high in this country. I advocate for those children in my community....but that's another soapbox thread..... |
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 Knowledge is Power
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Location: wherever my daughter's running | My little system - will not save them all - but it is like the Starfish story - I saved that one and it made a difference to it. This would not have helped in the CO case - but it may help with others.
I have seen horses in pastures that were in less than ideal shape and sometimes in less than the ideal environment. If I see this on a route I regulary travel and can monitor the horses for a bit, I have bought a couple of bags of quaility feed and some beet pulp and left by their mail box along with simple feeding and care instructions - phone numbers for people with good quality hay and also reputable horse vets phone numbers. I put the printed material in a zip lock bag along with a non-threating note encouraging them to find homes for the horses where they will cared for if they are not longer able to care for them and tie it to one of the bags of feed.
I have not had to do this often - the results have varied - sometimes the horses conditions improve and I contribute that to a possible lack of knowledge. Sometimes the horses dissapear from the property. These are the ones I pray are in better homes.
I have never told anyone I do this - not even my family - and I certainly do not leave my contact information on what I leave with these people. I just think it lets them know that someone has taken notice of the situation and is watching - sometimes that may prompt them to act. I just thought it may be worth the share in case someone else would like to play it forward.
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| You can't stop it. Did you know that 99% of the calls on horse neglect are bogus? The general public is stupid and claim neglect when they have no clue. The best one I was told about by animal control was for 3 "dead" horses in a pen. They were all taking sun baths. I lived in a suburb of Denver for a few years and people were constantly calling me in for stupid things. One was my pony because people didn't see feed in front of him 24/7. He was in excellent condition. He didn't have feed in front of him because I refused to founder him. No ribs showing, excellent weight and hair coat. Yet people said he was being starved because he didn't have free choice. The stories I have are unreal. |
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I just read the headlines
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| cruise - 2014-09-23 11:29 AM
My little system - will not save them all - but it is like the Starfish story - I saved that one and it made a difference to it. This would not have helped in the CO case - but it may help with others.
I have seen horses in pastures that were in less than ideal shape and sometimes in less than the ideal environment. If I see this on a route I regulary travel and can monitor the horses for a bit, I have bought a couple of bags of quaility feed and some beet pulp and left by their mail box along with simple feeding and care instructions - phone numbers for people with good quality hay and also reputable horse vets phone numbers. I put the printed material in a zip lock bag along with a non-threating note encouraging them to find homes for the horses where they will cared for if they are not longer able to care for them and tie it to one of the bags of feed.
I have not had to do this often - the results have varied - sometimes the horses conditions improve and I contribute that to a possible lack of knowledge. Sometimes the horses dissapear from the property. These are the ones I pray are in better homes.
I have never told anyone I do this - not even my family - and I certainly do not leave my contact information on what I leave with these people. I just think it lets them know that someone has taken notice of the situation and is watching - sometimes that may prompt them to act. I just thought it may be worth the share in case someone else would like to play it forward.
This is a good idea. If the need arises, I am going to do this. Thanks!  |
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A Somebody to Everybody
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | SKM - 2014-09-23 11:41 AM You can't stop it. Did you know that 99% of the calls on horse neglect are bogus? The general public is stupid and claim neglect when they have no clue. The best one I was told about by animal control was for 3 "dead" horses in a pen. They were all taking sun baths. I lived in a suburb of Denver for a few years and people were constantly calling me in for stupid things. One was my pony because people didn't see feed in front of him 24/7. He was in excellent condition. He didn't have feed in front of him because I refused to founder him. No ribs showing, excellent weight and hair coat. Yet people said he was being starved because he didn't have free choice. The stories I have are unreal.
Oh I have stories too and lots but heres one, I lived in the Rio Granda Valley and live on a busey road, I would get turned in for dead horses { they were sunning them selves} I have my horses blind folded { Fly Maskes} My horses were going to drown someone said because we just had a super heavy strom and my pasture was a few inches under water. Theres some really ding dongs out there. |
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Location: In The Snow, AZ | We've been called on as well. We were stalling BILs gelding at our house because he was hitting some roping events in the area. Thought it better to leave him at our house then travel back and forth with him. His gelding didn't get along with hubbys gelding. So he was in a 12X12 stall. I switched the geldings out two to three times a day so they each had turn out. I had animal control show up because it was "so hot" (Flagstaff summers are mild......) and he had no shade. Which isn't illegal any ways. Got called on a few days later saying our horses were without feed and water. So I invited the officer in to see the barn full of hay and my 3 full, clean water troughs.
Unfortunately, we had a neighbor who expected her horses to eat weeds. Rarely bought hay, however always happened to pick up a bale when animal control came by. |
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Location: Flat Rock,IL | And some people are stupid on how to feed right. When you have some ribs showing and their tail bone, the horse is not getting fed right. We had someone fight us on that we give grain too, saying that is spoiling you're horses. They thought their was nothing wrong with the tail bone and ribs showing. |
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Location: southeast KS | cruise - 2014-09-23 11:29 AM
My little system - will not save them all - but it is like the Starfish story - I saved that one and it made a difference to it. This would not have helped in the CO case - but it may help with others.
I have seen horses in pastures that were in less than ideal shape and sometimes in less than the ideal environment. If I see this on a route I regulary travel and can monitor the horses for a bit, I have bought a couple of bags of quaility feed and some beet pulp and left by their mail box along with simple feeding and care instructions - phone numbers for people with good quality hay and also reputable horse vets phone numbers. I put the printed material in a zip lock bag along with a non-threating note encouraging them to find homes for the horses where they will cared for if they are not longer able to care for them and tie it to one of the bags of feed.
I have not had to do this often - the results have varied - sometimes the horses conditions improve and I contribute that to a possible lack of knowledge. Sometimes the horses dissapear from the property. These are the ones I pray are in better homes.
I have never told anyone I do this - not even my family - and I certainly do not leave my contact information on what I leave with these people. I just think it lets them know that someone has taken notice of the situation and is watching - sometimes that may prompt them to act. I just thought it may be worth the share in case someone else would like to play it forward.
This is a good idea. If the need arises, I am going to do this. Thanks! 
I like this idea too! 
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 The Bird Lady
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Location: The end of the Earth, SE AR | Its a symptom of our society.
Don't just focus on the starving horses, what about the starving dogs, cats and most of all the starving abused children?
What can be done to prevent future cases of their physical abuse and neglect?
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Location: Never in one place long | firewaterfuelsme - 2014-09-23 11:03 AM
Do you think its happening more with no slaughter in America or is the economy or weather or other factors to blame?
Do you think education, awareness or other things will allow those horses being neglected to get help. Or is this simply a product of who some people are and it won't ever change? For example pets, have the spay/neuter programs worked? Are more people aware of unwanted pets because of education?
I am just brainstorming out loud so to speak. I know all to well the child abuse neglect is at an all time high in this country. I advocate for those children in my community....but that's another soapbox thread.....
I REALLY don't think this is the case as OBVIOUSLY some of those horse held some value!! they could have sold them or auctioned them of EASILY. I think it's more people are too "proud" and selfish to give up their horses or just don't care. It is SICKENING! Sad thing is, unless we want the government or someone coming by to inspect our houses and property, this will continue to happen..... there ARE many costs to having Freedom and sadly this is one of them..... Freedom is NOT free. My heart breaks for all the animals...and kids starving at this MOMENT. I will say people need to PAY attention though, if they have the slightest suspicion, check into it! Like looking in peoples cars for kids left in the heat. Awarness can help a lot!! |
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Location: Never in one place long | GLP - 2014-09-23 11:46 AM
cruise - 2014-09-23 11:29 AM
My little system - will not save them all - but it is like the Starfish story - I saved that one and it made a difference to it. This would not have helped in the CO case - but it may help with others.
I have seen horses in pastures that were in less than ideal shape and sometimes in less than the ideal environment. If I see this on a route I regulary travel and can monitor the horses for a bit, I have bought a couple of bags of quaility feed and some beet pulp and left by their mail box along with simple feeding and care instructions - phone numbers for people with good quality hay and also reputable horse vets phone numbers. I put the printed material in a zip lock bag along with a non-threating note encouraging them to find homes for the horses where they will cared for if they are not longer able to care for them and tie it to one of the bags of feed.
I have not had to do this often - the results have varied - sometimes the horses conditions improve and I contribute that to a possible lack of knowledge. Sometimes the horses dissapear from the property. These are the ones I pray are in better homes.
I have never told anyone I do this - not even my family - and I certainly do not leave my contact information on what I leave with these people. I just think it lets them know that someone has taken notice of the situation and is watching - sometimes that may prompt them to act. I just thought it may be worth the share in case someone else would like to play it forward.
This is a good idea. If the need arises, I am going to do this. Thanks!
Wow! that is amazing! HOw awesome of you to do this!! :) |
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| There is a community in my area that has underfed dogs who have mange and are in pitiful shape. They breed constantly, dead dogs in the road, dead puppies always getting hit. I can't get any group to do anything since they are meeting the minimum requirements. I have started just picking the dogs up if I find them in the road and taking them to a rescue group in my area. I have never gone on their property but a friend of mine has actually gone in the yard and taken 2 starving dogs who were chained in 100 degree heat with no shade or water. I've picked up about 6 dogs so far. I have never seen any missing pet signs, not even for the ones taken out of the yard, they are probably glad they are gone or haven't even noticed. |
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starving horses what can be done to prevent future cases....