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Anyone have any 1,400 pounders?
BleuIdGrl
Reg. May 2010
Posted 2014-09-23 3:20 PM
Subject: Anyone have any 1,400 pounders?


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In October 2013 he was 3.5 years old and right at 1250 lbs. He's been off for most of the last year, but obviously has grown. He started training in June. I went home in August and he looked great at the beginning of the month, but by the end he was growing again, but his weight was still good. He had grown about 2 inches in height, had a much deeper heart girth and hip, but was really narrow from the front or back view. Called my mom this weekend to have her bump his feed up in preparation for winter months. She said he had gotten a little thin looking so she had already bumped his feed up. He is now 4.5 years old and over 16.2 hands. He string tested at almost 17. Surely he will start growing out shortly and if he goes up any more...he's going to be huge!!!! What are the chances of him hitting 1400 lbs??
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Whiteboy
Reg. Jul 2012
Posted 2014-09-23 3:25 PM
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It could happen, but trust me you dont want a 1400 lb horse.  My mom has one that is almost 1300 lbs.  He is heavy boned and built right, but because of this size he is dealing with ringbone and lots of other joint issues.  He is 16 years old and really only been used as a trail horse and kid horse.  It is such a shame to see such a nice horse go down hill.  Big horses can have so many problems.   
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Jenbabe
Reg. Jul 2006
Posted 2014-09-23 4:05 PM
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My mare is about 15.2 and around 1400lbs, she is 6 years old. I don't know what she weighs when healthy, but when she had pneumonia they ran her across the scale before sedating her. She weighed 1350 and hadn't eaten in about 4 days and was dehydrated, so I assume that healthy and on full feed she is close to 1400. I have a 4 year old that is taller and thicker than her, so I'm guessing that she is also in that 1400lb range. I put one of those weight tapes around them both and they were outside of the measurements.

I think it's very reasonable to think yours will hit that weight, especially if he's got that much height and has the muscle and bone to go along with it.
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Jenbabe
Reg. Jul 2006
Posted 2014-09-23 4:07 PM
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Also wanted to say that conformation will play a part in the horse's soundness and longevity. If the horse is balanced with good sized feet and has a long smooth stride it will be better off than one with small feet and a short choppy stride. But I think that can be said about any size of horse.
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wyoming barrel racer
Reg. Apr 2006
Posted 2014-09-23 4:14 PM
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My stud was 1300 as a 3yr old. Being a stud he had a lot of mass throughout his shoulders and neck. As he aged and lost muscle tone and his injury bothered him more and more, he was probably closer to 1175-1200 later in life.  I took him to a set of scales at the local feed store so it was as legit as you can get. The weight tape is a joke if you go off it. I have yet to have one even close.

I'm guessing my 3yr old 16.3 hand show horse would be about 1250 right now. He has a lot of substance for a HUS horse. I ideally want them (for barrels) in the 1150-1200 range. They loose agility with the weight. I know there are exceptions to the rule, but I don't want a plow horse to run barrels on.
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Jenbabe
Reg. Jul 2006
Posted 2014-09-23 4:22 PM
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I agree that my 6 year old is not as agile as the smaller horses I've ridden. She is also longer bodied so that also affects her. I have another big mare that is retired that was as quick footed and agile as the smaller horses, but she was more compact. My 4 year old is probably an in-between of these to mares.

I love my big mares, but have to say one of the most fun rides I've had was a little 14 hand 900lb mare. Talk about quick and catty! She didn't have the power of the bigger horses but made up for it with her quickness.
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cow pie
Reg. Nov 2009
Posted 2014-09-23 4:51 PM
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Yep 1440 on the truck scale/ dot ..so they are never wrong. stood 15 hands and all muscle and big boned.
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2014-09-23 5:00 PM
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I would like to see a picture of him. 
Edit to ad: How do you use a string to measure a horse? 


Edited by Southtxponygirl 2014-09-23 5:02 PM
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BleuIdGrl
Reg. May 2010
Posted 2014-09-23 5:03 PM
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Oh my goodness.....When I go back home in October I'm going to try to catch a ride with someone to the vets office. They have a scale and I want to know what exactly he weighs. I guess if nothing else he'll make a pretty jumper?!?!?!
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wyoming barrel racer
Reg. Apr 2006
Posted 2014-09-23 5:04 PM
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Southtxponygirl - 2014-09-23 4:00 PM I would like to see a picture of him. 
Edit to ad: How do you use a string to measure a horse? 
edited because I thought you meant for weight. For string test, the HUS/jumper peeps usually measure from the middle of the knee, straight down the cannon bone to the hairline/coronet band. Whatever you get in inches=their height at maturity. I went around and measured everything from my yearlings to my husband's old horse when he was alive and they were all spot on for the adult/mature horses. I think it is the most accurate string test. My 3yr old string tests to 17.1, but he is only 16.3 now. And as whiteboy said, being that tall gives them a whole host of issues. I think he injured his suspensory when he cut his foot, but it wasn't diagnosed until 4 months later after he started to buck...of course I also know now that my saddle pinched. It started to leave white hair. But anyways. I am a bit scared with all the front leg issues I am already having and he is only 3 :(

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BleuIdGrl
Reg. May 2010
Posted 2014-09-23 5:07 PM
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Southtxponygirl - 2014-09-23 5:00 PM

I would like to see a picture of him. 
Edit to ad: How do you use a string to measure a horse? 

Southtxponygirl, there's a couple different ways. I did the knee to coronet band.

http://www.ultimatehorsesite.com/info/stringtesting.html
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2014-09-23 5:14 PM
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BleuIdGrl - 2014-09-23 5:07 PM
Southtxponygirl - 2014-09-23 5:00 PM I would like to see a picture of him. 

Edit to ad: How do you use a string to measure a horse? 
Southtxponygirl, there's a couple different ways. I did the knee to coronet band. http://www.ultimatehorsesite.com/info/stringtesting.html

Just wondering, seen it done this way, one of my horses measure out to be 17 hands and she never got over 15, LOL.. 
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Iwish
Reg. Oct 2010
Posted 2014-09-23 5:17 PM
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what is the breeding on this colt? I love BIG tall horses.
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BleuIdGrl
Reg. May 2010
Posted 2014-09-23 9:13 PM
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Iwish - 2014-09-23 5:17 PM

what is the breeding on this colt? I love BIG tall horses.

My guy is Double Beduino, once through Chicks Beduino, and Streakin Six. He's bred to be descent size, but I wasn't expecting this big.

http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/flashfire+at+six
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BleuIdGrl
Reg. May 2010
Posted 2014-09-24 1:28 PM
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So how much are yall having to feed theses beasts? Mom has him bumped up to 7 lbs twice a day
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BleuIdGrl
Reg. May 2010
Posted 2014-09-24 1:30 PM
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Southtxponygirl - 2014-09-23 5:14 PM

BleuIdGrl - 2014-09-23 5:07 PM
Southtxponygirl - 2014-09-23 5:00 PM I would like to see a picture of him. 

Edit to ad: How do you use a string to measure a horse? 
Southtxponygirl, there's a couple different ways. I did the knee to coronet band. http://www.ultimatehorsesite.com/info/stringtesting.html

Just wondering, seen it done this way, one of my horses measure out to be 17 hands and she never got over 15, LOL.. 

My trainer is going to send me a current pic of him this evening.
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RockinGR
Reg. Feb 2009
Posted 2014-09-24 1:42 PM
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Husband's heading horse is 16hh/16.1hh and weighs in just over 1350#s. He'd easily weigh 1400 if I'd let him eat all he wants. He's tall, but certainly not a giant. He's just...BIG. Big boned, big bodied. Big and dumb, but the sweetest horse ever. Certainly not the most graceful thing alive...

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He eats the least amount of any of my horses, just an easy easy keeper. He gets 2 lbs of Strategy Healthy Edge and a flake of brome, morning and night. That's it, nothing extra.

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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2014-09-24 2:00 PM
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My Melvin is right at 16 hands, hes a big boy and weights about 1350 wish he was not that heavy, I worry about his joints, I try to get weight off of him but hes such a easy keeper, he can smell food and put weight on. Hes got his own pasture and then stall/pen up at night and he get's his feed and he gets almost half of what I feed the others and his supplements, I never had such a easy keeper like him. I have pictures of him on my other computer. 
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uno-dos-tres!
Reg. Jul 2004
Posted 2014-09-24 2:16 PM
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I hope that Shelly Martin will chime in on this post. Her stallion is huge. Take a look...Firewater Ta Fame. I called her prior to breeding my big mare, as I was concerned about getting the results-I got! I have the most drop dead handsome Palomino but he is BIG. Stitch AKA FTF has many winners and I'm sure the list is going to get longer. He helps mares out that need some size in the foals and stamps them with athletic ability.

http://www.barrelhorsenews.com/images/stories/stallion_alley/FirewaterTaFame/firewatertafame14.pdf

OP, you can easily have a 1400 when its all said and done!
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r_beau
Reg. Apr 2010
Posted 2014-09-24 2:45 PM
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My Red is between 15.1 and 15.2 hands and at the vet he weighed in at 1,210 pounds (after being in the trailer for 5+ hours to get there). 

I'm really curious how much my 3-year-old weighs. He's about the same height as Red or slightly taller. He's not quite as thick as Red but he is quite thick for a 3-year-old IMO.




 
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Iwish
Reg. Oct 2010
Posted 2014-09-24 3:22 PM
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My mare is 16.2 hands tall and in prime shape I think weighs 1300-1350. She has the bone and foot to match her size. She is incredibly athletic, things are just effortless for her. When the time comes, I will breed her to a 16 hand or taller stallion as I want every possible chance at getting a 16+hand 1300+lb foal out of her. I like them BIG and TALL.
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Jenbabe
Reg. Jul 2006
Posted 2014-09-24 4:03 PM
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Our big horses get fed a little more hay than the smaller horses, but not all that much more. Our horses are all fed alfalfa with around 2lbs or less of sweet feed per day. And honestly our biggest problem is keeping weight off of horses.
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Bibliafarm
Reg. Jul 2008
Posted 2014-09-24 7:04 PM
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 17.3.. herwig is 6'2 .. IM 5'6 we always use mounting blocks but we were in middle of a clinic.LOL and it was faster.

UF weighed him at 1496.. he was 5..he is slim..

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SMartin
Reg. Jan 2005
Posted 2014-09-24 7:52 PM
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Stitch is 16 hamds and weighs about 1350/1400 lbs right now but I have him a little over weight during off season.  I have just this year xrayed all of his joints and they are all clean. He has a lot of bone. His babies are ranging anywhere from 14'3 to 16'1 depending on the mare.  We did have a gelding once that was 16 hands and weighed 1510 on the scales at the vets office,. My daughter ran barrels and poles on him. Never had any issues with his joints.
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rockinas
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2014-09-24 9:01 PM
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This is the DTF mare I run for SG.  She is 16HH and was 1386# the last time I had her to the vet (in July) and they took a weight.  She is in running shape.  She hasn't had nearly as many joint issues as many horses I've had and I attribute that to her being correct and having a lot of substance.  She got hurt a year ago but that was a stall accident that had nothing to do with her size.
 


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streakysox
Reg. Jul 2008
Posted 2014-09-24 9:15 PM
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This horse is 16-1, thick and solid muscle --in top performance condition. I am the one standing and I am 5'5". I have never weighed this horse but I am sure that he does not weigh anything near 1400.



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barrelracr131
Reg. Aug 2011
Posted 2014-09-25 6:29 AM
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I have a 16 hh appendix qh. He weighed in at 1290, out of shape, at the vets. He's a bit fleshy right now but in better fitness than he was then. I'm guessing he's now in the 1300s.

He has no major soundness issues, knock on wood. Lol. He's 17 this year. Little lower hock arthritis but nothing horrible. His joints look pretty good overall.

In my experience they don't have bad soundess issues until the 16.3-17 hh range from size, but even then if they are correctly built, they are fine. I know many of the gp jumpers and dressage mounts are HUGE. I have heard eventers prefer them under 17 hh for soundness reasons. I'm taking in general, not really specific to barrel horses.

I just haven't seen too many that height running in my area. I usually have one of the bigger horses at the race, locally. They run a lot of smaller pens near me.
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3canstorun
Reg. May 2007
Posted 2014-09-25 8:18 AM
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Here is mine.  He is an own son of Shawne Bugs.  He weighs in at 1425.  He is well over 16 hands.  He has been in the family since he was 2.  He was only 20 in that picture.  I still have him he is now 26.   He never had any maintenance problems at all.  I finally got his hocks injected when he was 17.  He could scoot around a barrel too and move like a smaller horse.  Love him to death. 

If you look at the picture, you can see the legs of the mare I run now. 


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BleuIdGrl
Reg. May 2010
Posted 2014-09-28 6:05 PM
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The most recent pic I have of him is from august it's not great but will give y'all an idea. He was being a goof and wouldn't stand still long...holder is 6'2 atleast. You can see how he's looking a little thin again. I have a little fear that he's about to make a big growth spirt. Maybe this one will be out instead of up.

Won't let me load a pic from my phone...

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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2014-09-28 6:09 PM
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Bibliafarm - 2014-09-24 7:04 PM

 17.3.. herwig is 6'2 .. IM 5'6 we always use mounting blocks but we were in middle of a clinic.LOL and it was faster.

UF weighed him at 1496.. he was 5..he is slim..


Thats a cute picture
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2014-09-28 6:12 PM
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Here's Melvin.... 



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BleuIdGrl
Reg. May 2010
Posted 2014-09-28 6:14 PM
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RockinGR - 2014-09-24 1:42 PM

Husband's heading horse is 16hh/16.1hh and weighs in just over 1350#s. He'd easily weigh 1400 if I'd let him eat all he wants. He's tall, but certainly not a giant. He's just...BIG. Big boned, big bodied. Big and dumb, but the sweetest horse ever. Certainly not the most graceful thing alive...

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He eats the least amount of any of my horses, just an easy easy keeper. He gets 2 lbs of Strategy Healthy Edge and a flake of brome, morning and night. That's it, nothing extra.


If he'll finish out to look like yours I'll be a happy girl
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