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| Can someone explain what this is about in a non-Hitler kinda way?
We have ride times where 10 people are in the arena at a time and can do whatever they want for a 20 minute block, but we still have regular exhibitions too. |
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| We Texas girls do have it good, I don't think we would survive up north. I have noticed in the run videos from up north, the tiny pens, closed gates, dry dirt, people standing behind the barrels. We are spoiled, someone is sure to pitch a fit down here if any of the above happend at one of our jackpots, lol. We don't go to any tiny pens or ones that require a closed gate. Our 60 second exhibitions mean just that, for 60 seconds we control the arena. We don't have timed riding slots in the arena for several horses at once, most all of our pens have a separate warm up area and our weather allows for year round use. I was at a local jackpot, took 4 horses, plan for one was to make a run during exhbition just like a regular run since I was not entering him. There was bad weather so they were letting people warm up behind the 3rd and some people were circling the 3rd. When my turn came up I asked the gate worker if everyone could just stand in the corner for a minute, didn't want a wreck and also was trying to mimic a regular run. He was from up north and boy howdy, he called me a jackpot queen, made quite a few faces, mumbled and grumbled about being down south at which my friends jumped in and proceeded to give him a mouth full, that we paid for 60 seconds, it is our 60 seconds to use as we wish. That is the way we do it down here.   |
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     Location: Jersey Girl | Seriously, there are venues that allow others in the arena during your exhibition? I wouldn't like that at all.....
We usually have open arena before exhibitions and sometimes just after exhibitions but not during....
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      Location: sunny california | not everyone is going for it for an exhibition. I usually just trot or lope to settle my horse and welcome others while i am in there. however I have seen others want to make a run and the girls left without an attitude. maybe we just get along better and are more cooperative in these parts. |
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        Location: Displaced Iowegian | Even though we are continually told that things are MUCH better in Texas……shame on you for “dissing” the barrel racers from the “North”. You “might” have seen videos of such things but it is NOT the norm. Yes, there are places that sell 20 minute time slots; yes, there are places where there is an open arena BEFORE the exhibitions and yes, we do have small pens just because we don't live in boondock junctions. I have NEVER made an exhibition run with other people IN the arena….so please, do the “northerners” a favor and don’t make “blanket assumptions”. |
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     Location: North Dakota | hahaha! That's is pretty funny!!
I am from the north and our exhibitions are not on the stakes, and are not timed but we have the arena to ourselves for 60 seconds (though in most places it is one time through the pattern only). I have allowed others in during my exhibitions when we were at a large show and they were getting close to stopping the exhibitions and there were others left with paid tickets in hand waiting. We also have time slots at some of the bigger runs which I actually prefer. I feel for $10 for 10 minutes in the arena and the opportunity to go around the pattern as many times as I want in that amount of time is a much better deal than $5 for one time thru the pattern plus everyone is always very courteous. |
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| NJJ - 2014-09-28 9:41 AM Even though we are continually told that things are MUCH better in Texas……shame on you for “dissing” the barrel racers from the “North”. You “might” have seen videos of such things but it is NOT the norm. Yes, there are places that sell 20 minute time slots; yes, there are places where there is an open arena BEFORE the exhibitions and yes, we do have small pens just because we don't live in boondock junctions. I have NEVER made an exhibition run with other people IN the arena….so please, do the “northerners” a favor and don’t make “blanket assumptions”.
Slow down there grumpy bear, I was not dissing the "northerns" at all, I was more poking fun of us southerners and how cushy we have it and how we have come to expect it to be that way. No where did I state it was being done wrong up north or not done as well as we do it or say we do it the right way or a safer way. Relax and get happy, you might take things differently! |
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  Location: California | I loved this video! TOs aren't like this at all the races, but definitely the bigger ones I've been at. They don't bother me at all, but I think I would like being assigned a time slot. At the West Coast finals they had a full day of TOs and the line was crazy long. It would have been awesome if they had sold time slots, but I was grateful to have the opportunity to do a couple of TOs with standing in line for awhile vs. not having them at all. |
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        Location: Displaced Iowegian | rodeomom3 - 2014-09-28 10:14 AM NJJ - 2014-09-28 9:41 AM Even though we are continually told that things are MUCH better in Texas……shame on you for “dissing” the barrel racers from the “North”. You “might” have seen videos of such things but it is NOT the norm. Yes, there are places that sell 20 minute time slots; yes, there are places where there is an open arena BEFORE the exhibitions and yes, we do have small pens just because we don't live in boondock junctions. I have NEVER made an exhibition run with other people IN the arena….so please, do the “northerners” a favor and don’t make “blanket assumptions”. Slow down there grumpy bear, I was not dissing the "northerns" at all, I was more poking fun of us southerners and how cushy we have it and how we have come to expect it to be that way. No where did I state it was being done wrong up north or not done as well as we do it or say we do it the right way or a safer way. Relax and get happy, you might take things differently!
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| NJJ - 2014-09-28 10:43 AM rodeomom3 - 2014-09-28 10:14 AM NJJ - 2014-09-28 9:41 AM Even though we are continually told that things are MUCH better in Texas……shame on you for “dissing” the barrel racers from the “North”. You “might” have seen videos of such things but it is NOT the norm. Yes, there are places that sell 20 minute time slots; yes, there are places where there is an open arena BEFORE the exhibitions and yes, we do have small pens just because we don't live in boondock junctions. I have NEVER made an exhibition run with other people IN the arena….so please, do the “northerners” a favor and don’t make “blanket assumptions”. Slow down there grumpy bear, I was not dissing the "northerns" at all, I was more poking fun of us southerners and how cushy we have it and how we have come to expect it to be that way. No where did I state it was being done wrong up north or not done as well as we do it or say we do it the right way or a safer way. Relax and get happy, you might take things differently! Guilty conscience????? LOL   Not at ll, I have no idea where in my post I was dissing northerers or how you could take it that way without you making assumptions that were not there. Why are you feeling defensive, lol   
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        Location: Displaced Iowegian | rodeomom3 - 2014-09-28 8:23 AM We Texas girls do have it good, I don't think we would survive up north. I have noticed in the run videos from up north, the tiny pens, closed gates, dry dirt, people standing behind the barrels. We are spoiled, someone is sure to pitch a fit down here if any of the above happend at one of our jackpots, lol. We don't go to any tiny pens or ones that require a closed gate. Our 60 second exhibitions mean just that, for 60 seconds we control the arena. We don't have timed riding slots in the arena for several horses at once, most all of our pens have a separate warm up area and our weather allows for year round use. I was at a local jackpot, took 4 horses, plan for one was to make a run during exhbition just like a regular run since I was not entering him. There was bad weather so they were letting people warm up behind the 3rd and some people were circling the 3rd. When my turn came up I asked the gate worker if everyone could just stand in the corner for a minute, didn't want a wreck and also was trying to mimic a regular run. He was from up north and boy howdy, he called me a jackpot queen, made quite a few faces, mumbled and grumbled about being down south at which my friends jumped in and proceeded to give him a mouth full, that we paid for 60 seconds, it is our 60 seconds to use as we wish. That is the way we do it down here.  
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    Location: Southeast Louisiana | NJJ - 2014-09-28 10:43 AM
rodeomom3 - 2014-09-28 10:14 AM NJJ - 2014-09-28 9:41 AM Even though we are continually told that things are MUCH better in Texas……shame on you for “dissing” the barrel racers from the “North”. You “might” have seen videos of such things but it is NOT the norm. Yes, there are places that sell 20 minute time slots; yes, there are places where there is an open arena BEFORE the exhibitions and yes, we do have small pens just because we don't live in boondock junctions. I have NEVER made an exhibition run with other people IN the arena….so please, do the “northerners” a favor and don’t make “blanket assumptions”. Slow down there grumpy bear, I was not dissing the "northerns" at all, I was more poking fun of us southerners and how cushy we have it and how we have come to expect it to be that way. No where did I state it was being done wrong up north or not done as well as we do it or say we do it the right way or a safer way. Relax and get happy, you might take things differently!
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       Location: Montana | The jackpots I attend, the TOs are run like a regular run...no one in the arena except the person who has that TO slot...however it is enter the arena at will so, you kind of just watch and wait your turn. But the arena is open before the TOs and after the race (and if you are super nice, you can get a TO or two after the race if need be). I just thought it was a funny video because I could totally see barrel racers (including myself on occasion) causing a fuss like that, LOL. |
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| mtcanchazer - 2014-09-28 12:15 PM The jackpots I attend, the TOs are run like a regular run...no one in the arena except the person who has that TO slot...however it is enter the arena at will so, you kind of just watch and wait your turn. But the arena is open before the TOs and after the race (and if you are super nice, you can get a TO or two after the race if need be). I just thought it was a funny video because I could totally see barrel racers (including myself on occasion) causing a fuss like that, LOL.
We don't ever have open arena riding time before or after a race. That is nice you can get in the pen. Exhibitions before the race are typically not on the stakes, the thought process is to not dig the ground up before the race. We do have after show exhibitions and those are on the stakes. |
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| Too many associations and jackpots to classify I how theyr ran region or state. I've seen it all. Buyin a time slot wouldn't work becuse there are a few trainers that show up with 6 horses, no one else would get to go at the smaller races. Most are booked anyway well in advance. It's funny anyway. I would like exhibitions on the stakes. |
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       Location: Montana | rodeomom3 - 2014-09-28 11:28 AM mtcanchazer - 2014-09-28 12:15 PM The jackpots I attend, the TOs are run like a regular run...no one in the arena except the person who has that TO slot...however it is enter the arena at will so, you kind of just watch and wait your turn. But the arena is open before the TOs and after the race (and if you are super nice, you can get a TO or two after the race if need be). I just thought it was a funny video because I could totally see barrel racers (including myself on occasion) causing a fuss like that, LOL. We don't ever have open arena riding time before or after a race. That is nice you can get in the pen. Exhibitions before the race are typically not on the stakes, the thought process is to not dig the ground up before the race. We do have after show exhibitions and those are on the stakes.
Where I typcially go, we have so few runners (the largest amount I remember this some was 35-36 runners...including people who brough 2-4 horses a piece) I think everything is on the stakes. I wasn't picking on you, just explaining what they did where I attend most. One place a couple of years ago they did TOs after the race only, and I wasn't a fan of that because I was still training my mare and wanted at least 1 TO before running. |
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| I live in CA. I took some years off and when I came back and did my first time only again, I was like, "Hey, they forgot to give me my time.??" LOL!! What is the point of a TIME only without a TIME? It's not earth shattering to not have it. Now I just gauge progress on TO's without being timed like I do losing weight without a scale.
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| Up here in Indiana, I would throw an absolute fit if anyone was in the arena during my exhibition. Talk about a distraction! I pay for my run, and no one is allowed anywhere near that pattern while I'm doing it. That is how just about everyone is here, except a few horses that get led in and out with another horse, it waits by the gate at one race. (There is no warm up pen for the indoor arena, you run in from the parking lot so it is a closed gate at the end (so no loose horses or hit cars), but my mare loves that arena!) |
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    Location: EDGE OF INSANITY | We have one association here (i wont name names) that sells time slots, ie-you buy your exhibition run to be between 10:00-10:30. What really piffs me off is the most of the time, even if you get there waaayyyy before it starts, "friends" have signed other people up (who aren't even there yet) and all of the the time slots are full |
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  Location: California | horsepoor1 - 2014-09-29 2:46 PM We have one association here (i wont name names) that sells time slots, ie-you buy your exhibition run to be between 10:00-10:30. What really piffs me off is the most of the time, even if you get there waaayyyy before it starts, "friends" have signed other people up (who aren't even there yet) and all of the the time slots are full
Oh I didn't think about this with selling time slots. That would really suck.
I will say as far as having people in the arena during exhibitions, at the races I've been too, where this happens they are behind the wings, and not near your pattern. I actually appreciate this as I have been seasoning my mare this year, and I can buy a time only and just settle her behind the wings. That has been a great help for me just to let her sit in there while others are working their horses. |
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| mtcanchazer - 2014-09-28 12:49 PM rodeomom3 - 2014-09-28 11:28 AM mtcanchazer - 2014-09-28 12:15 PM The jackpots I attend, the TOs are run like a regular run...no one in the arena except the person who has that TO slot...however it is enter the arena at will so, you kind of just watch and wait your turn. But the arena is open before the TOs and after the race (and if you are super nice, you can get a TO or two after the race if need be). I just thought it was a funny video because I could totally see barrel racers (including myself on occasion) causing a fuss like that, LOL. We don't ever have open arena riding time before or after a race. That is nice you can get in the pen. Exhibitions before the race are typically not on the stakes, the thought process is to not dig the ground up before the race. We do have after show exhibitions and those are on the stakes. Where I typcially go, we have so few runners (the largest amount I remember this some was 35-36 runners...including people who brough 2-4 horses a piece) I think everything is on the stakes.
I wasn't picking on you, just explaining what they did where I attend most. One place a couple of years ago they did TOs after the race only, and I wasn't a fan of that because I was still training my mare and wanted at least 1 TO before running.
I get it, at bigger races they will have them on the stakes which makes more sense to me anyway. We usually have around 120 at a local jackpot. Exhibitions only after a race makes no sense, a lot of horses need them before they make their run. |
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     Location: California | Time for me to chime in. I made the video and it was just to be a funny video depicting the way California time onlys have evolved since I first started barrel racing many years ago. The time only, hence the name, was invented to allow a rider to make a practice run before the race and to get a time. The barrels were always on the markers allowing you to see how your horse was progressing. Many were there with their futurity colts (that were not yet allowed to run in the real race due to age) who needed to compare their times to see how well their horses training was going. Today, it is difficult to accomplish since the barrels are not on the markers, they don't always give you a time, their are multiple horses allowed in the arena, and there are riders near and in the alleyway so if you wanted to school your gate problem horse, it is next to impossible. I live in California, and I do believe that our fututity horses have a disadvantage competing with other horses because of the way time onlys are run today. Also, if you pay for one minute, you should get one minute, no matter how you slice it. If you want to walk in, get off, uncinch, and just stand there for 60 seconds, you should be allowed to. I don't understand how someone can be allowed to use their one minute walking the pattern, trotting the pattern, go around and around the barrels and that is ok. But if I run the pattern and I am back in 18 seconds, why can't I go to the pattern again to use up my remaining 42 seconds? As far as the mile long lines, it is also about impossible to properly warm your horse up since you have to stand in line. It is also difficult to time only more than one horse for the same reason. I came up with an idea that I thought would work...it would eliminate the lines, allow you to TO multiple horses and adequately warm up. The gate person would have a clip board. This is similar to the protocol designed at restaurants. You ride up, give her your name, and it is put on the list. You are told how many people are in front of you and that lets you know how much time there is before your Time Only. For example, if there are 10 people ahead of you, you can figure you have at least 10 minutes. You can now warm up your horse keeping an eye on the gate and listening for your name to be called. Can you imagine people standing in a long line at the restaurant waiting for a table...you can't even go to the restroom or you would lose your place. I also feel that a person should only be allowed 2 time onlys at a time and if they want more, they need to sign up again. |
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| I'm from way up north and I don't think you southerners really understand the deal. Have you ever tried to exhibition up here? You HAVE to be in the arena while the others are going, if you stand outside you run the risk of a serous goring by one of the buffalo that still roam free. Add that to the fact only the big cities have power you just really have to hurry everyone through so you can get home before dark. This isn't just so you can see but also because it gets SO COLD up here 10 months a year that you can freeze to death after sun sets.
Our indoor pens are indeed tiny. You try building one of those things out of logs you cut yourself, thats all we have up here. As far as time onlies we'd probably do more but the gal running the little glass deal with sand in it gets tired of flipping it over everytime a new rider comes in the arena. Can't blame her, she usually also has to scoop all the snow out of the barrel path before the first runner can go.... |
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        Location: Displaced Iowegian | Frenchie - 2014-09-28 6:27 PM I'm from way up north and I don't think you southerners really understand the deal. Have you ever tried to exhibition up here? You HAVE to be in the arena while the others are going, if you stand outside you run the risk of a serous goring by one of the buffalo that still roam free. Add that to the fact only the big cities have power you just really have to hurry everyone through so you can get home before dark. This isn't just so you can see but also because it gets SO COLD up here 10 months a year that you can freeze to death after sun sets.
Our indoor pens are indeed tiny. You try building one of those things out of logs you cut yourself, thats all we have up here. As far as time onlies we'd probably do more but the gal running the little glass deal with sand in it gets tired of flipping it over everytime a new rider comes in the arena. Can't blame her, she usually also has to scoop all the snow out of the barrel path before the first runner can go....
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Frenchie - 2014-09-28 6:27 PM I'm from way up north and I don't think you southerners really understand the deal. Have you ever tried to exhibition up here? You HAVE to be in the arena while the others are going, if you stand outside you run the risk of a serous goring by one of the buffalo that still roam free. Add that to the fact only the big cities have power you just really have to hurry everyone through so you can get home before dark. This isn't just so you can see but also because it gets SO COLD up here 10 months a year that you can freeze to death after sun sets.
Our indoor pens are indeed tiny. You try building one of those things out of logs you cut yourself, thats all we have up here. As far as time onlies we'd probably do more but the gal running the little glass deal with sand in it gets tired of flipping it over everytime a new rider comes in the arena. Can't blame her, she usually also has to scoop all the snow out of the barrel path before the first runner can go....
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| Frenchie - 2014-09-28 6:33 PM Its serious up here. Hard enough to exhibition colts at all but try doing it with pack of coyotes chasing the barrel setters across the pen.....
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       Location: Montana | Frenchie - 2014-09-28 5:27 PM I'm from way up north and I don't think you southerners really understand the deal. Have you ever tried to exhibition up here? You HAVE to be in the arena while the others are going, if you stand outside you run the risk of a serous goring by one of the buffalo that still roam free. Add that to the fact only the big cities have power you just really have to hurry everyone through so you can get home before dark. This isn't just so you can see but also because it gets SO COLD up here 10 months a year that you can freeze to death after sun sets.
Our indoor pens are indeed tiny. You try building one of those things out of logs you cut yourself, thats all we have up here. As far as time onlies we'd probably do more but the gal running the little glass deal with sand in it gets tired of flipping it over everytime a new rider comes in the arena. Can't blame her, she usually also has to scoop all the snow out of the barrel path before the first runner can go....
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       Location: your guess is as good as mine | Frenchie - 2014-09-28 5:33 PM Its serious up here. Hard enough to exhibition colts at all but try doing it with pack of coyotes chasing the barrel setters across the pen.....
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| I have lived in CA, MI and now FL and barrel racing itself is a WHOLE different world in each place. "Exhibitions" really threw me for a loop when I first moved to FL. You literally all line up before the barrel race and work your way toward the arena. Hand the gate person a ticket and then do your thing. There is no dragging at all, so if you want to run, you may have some seriously deep/chopped up ground.
I remember when there were no TO's or arena use before the runs. You could TO after and you could ride the pattern after, but never before a run. Your horse had to know how to run fresh. This was CA.
Most of the time here in FL, I won't even get to the race until right before start time, because I hate waiting and waiting and waiting for all of the exhibitions and then the 100 plus runners in the open alone. My horses are just going to have to run without getting in the arena before hand.
Yeah, we also warmed up in the arena before the barrel race, since it wasn't being used for exhibitions.
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          Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | Frenchie - 2014-09-28 6:33 PM Its serious up here. Hard enough to exhibition colts at all but try doing it with pack of coyotes chasing the barrel setters across the pen.....
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| Three 4 Luck - 2014-09-29 9:17 AM
Frenchie - 2014-09-28 6:33 PM Its serious up here. Hard enough to exhibition colts at all but try doing it with pack of coyotes chasing the barrel setters across the pen.....
I'm dying at the mental picture. 
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| The time onlys in northern nevada are horrible. Its one person in the arena but the 60 second rule doesnt apply to all individuals. There is one particular gal that I try to beat to the gate if I see her at a race. She will bring 3 colts and literally spend at least 5-10 in the arena and practice. She loves to slow down the process. Ugh! We have closed arenas up here because the local arenas cant be set up for alley ways.
Question.......Do you guys start on time? Even if there are another 10 gals wanting to do time onlys? Ive seen races start on time and allow time onlys to continue after the race and Ive also seen time onlys make the race delayed for an hour. |
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    Location: Fort Worth / Springtown | I thought the video was funny! Foreign to the way I know exhibitions, here in Texas, BUT, I just saw a video on Facebook of an exhibition in Texas ---people were riding in the arena at the back, but some would drift further towards the alleyway side of the arena- as the rider was doing their exhibition and turned the first barrel, the horse took off bucking to the 2nd barrel and threw the rider --- GET THIS - the rider was stepped on by someeone else's horse when she was thrown - the other rider was riding along the fence down by the second barrel, just as the exhbibition rider made their way to the 2nd barrel. It was basically a collision of the 2 horses and the exhibition rider was the one who got thrown and stepped on (but not by her own horse)!!!
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 Born not Made
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       Location: North Dakota | Video was HILARIOUS, by the way.
I think there are pro's and con's to doing it both ways.
At some of the jackpots I go to, some of them do a ticket system. You could buy up to 3 (one for each "run"). You had to stand in line forever to get into the arena (not to mention that your horse is no longer warmed up after you've stood in line for 30 minutes) and then the barrel race would usually start late in order to let everyone have their practice run that wanted one. The barrels were not on the markers and you weren't given a time, but you are the only one in the arena.
Most of the jackpots I do have time slots where up to 10 people are in the arena together for 15 minutes. The nice thing about this is if I sign up for the 11:00 AM slot, then that is when I can have my horse warmed up and ready and be done in 15 minutes. Of course, it's hard to simulate a real run, and you sometimes have to dodge people riding around.
I was just at a barrel race yesterday and when it was over, they announced they had one person who wanted to do a time-only. The person ran, they gave their time. Barrels were on the markers.
So I think if you are trying to get a futurity colt going, most of the gals and producers here "up North" would probably not have a problem with a few people doing a time-only at the end of the race to get a time on their colt. |
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I Really Love Jeans
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    Location: Southeast Louisiana | I've done the ticket system at one barrel race, but I didn't like it. I also did exhibition at a horse show once where you just went whenever you could and it was terrible. From reading the other ways, I'm glad we do them like we do here. Each barrel racer signs up for a slot and they call out what page they're on and call people in order. They do try and make everyone stick to the sixty second rule. You can sign up for as many as you want and in any order. |
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 A very grounded girl
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   Location: Moving soon..... | Why can't we just laugh at it and move on? No one is dissing anyone. and...who pooped in your Post Toasties??
Edited by Karol 2014-09-29 12:21 PM
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 Queen Bee Cat Owner
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     Location: Way up North | The video and Frenchie are spot on! You are lucky if you can get in there and there aren't ruts big enough to lose a large shetland in and a dog doesn't zip in to heel you along and we definately don't run on stakes or with a timer. A few producers have started to do a seperate exhibition spot for next years futurity colts and they do run on stakes with a timer so that is really nice! On the upside your horse sure gets seasond to distractions and watching their feet in a hurry! |
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The Advice Guru
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| In my area timed onlies are done prior to the jackpot, not on the markers, and up to the host either one trip around the barrel, or a certain amount of time.
How we buy them is different too, sometimes we buy a chip/ticket and wait in line, sometimes we buy a time slot, and sometimes we prepurchase when we send in entries. The electric eye is never out.
There are many discussions that have occurred, the highlights I have heard, is if the barrels are on the markers, this is giving an advantage to the horses that have purchased timed onlies. Having the barrels on the markers and not working the ground every 5 wrecks the ground for the barrel race. If you harrow every 5 tractor every 25-50 this takes time, and man power and reduces the revenue brought in by the timed onlies.
We have exhibitions after the barrel race, if you have a futurity horse you want to see if the horse is clocking this is an option it is run just like the jackpot raked, time announced, and majority of the time it is recorded.
The argument having the exhibition at the end is the horses eligible to win money are offered better ground then the people just paying exhibition. If you have a bad run in the jackpot, you can also pay for an exhibition and correct the mistake.
For our big runs/futurities most of these will not have the exhibitions, but luckily if one wants to know how a horse is running in that certain arena there are jackpots at the arena that offer exhibitions throughout the year.
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  More bootie than waist!
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          Location: Riding Crackhead. | NJJ - 2014-09-28 9:41 AM Even though we are continually told that things are MUCH better in Texas……shame on you for “dissing” the barrel racers from the “North”. You “might” have seen videos of such things but it is NOT the norm. Yes, there are places that sell 20 minute time slots; yes, there are places where there is an open arena BEFORE the exhibitions and yes, we do have small pens just because we don't live in boondock junctions. I have NEVER made an exhibition run with other people IN the arena….so please, do the “northerners” a favor and don’t make “blanket assumptions”.
Thank you Norma. Around here we have exhibitions. 60 seconds long, barrels aren't on the stakes and no one is in the arena other than you. You get one time through the pattern. A lot of jackpots are also doing time slots where you buy 10 - 20 minutes depending on the producer. Yes there's more than one person in the pen at that time but you know that when you're buying it. I prefer the time slots as my horse doesn't need to run the pattern - she just needs to look around a bit, and then I walk and trot the pattern doing some Connie Combs drills. |
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  More bootie than waist!
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          Location: Riding Crackhead. | Frenchie - 2014-09-28 6:27 PM I'm from way up north and I don't think you southerners really understand the deal. Have you ever tried to exhibition up here? You HAVE to be in the arena while the others are going, if you stand outside you run the risk of a serous goring by one of the buffalo that still roam free. Add that to the fact only the big cities have power you just really have to hurry everyone through so you can get home before dark. This isn't just so you can see but also because it gets SO COLD up here 10 months a year that you can freeze to death after sun sets.
Our indoor pens are indeed tiny. You try building one of those things out of logs you cut yourself, thats all we have up here. As far as time onlies we'd probably do more but the gal running the little glass deal with sand in it gets tired of flipping it over everytime a new rider comes in the arena. Can't blame her, she usually also has to scoop all the snow out of the barrel path before the first runner can go....
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