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Location: The Lone Star State | The tires that came with my now 2 year old platinum trailer are Goodyear LT235/85 R16 I had a sidewall failure (big bubble)this past weekend and when I went to replace the tire they told me ST tires were better? I called my platinum dealer he was helpful and explained the LT. tires were very tried and good tires even though they were truck tires not trailer tiresit was an anomaliie my tire did that and he said go back with a LT tire? I wanted yalls opinion/experiences please. |
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| I own a Goodyear commercial tire dealer stay with the lt235/85 r16 if you can afford them go with the g614 they are 14 ply rating and built with all steel construction stay away from anything with st in front of the size they are all gonna be made in china and dont meet the quality requirements to run on a truck or car they are trailer use only the bubbles in the sidewalks could be from a impact break they have to take them off the rim and look at the inside of the tire to tell maybe you will get lucky and they might be a warranty issue if they are not from a impact if the dealer tries to sell you st tires they are idiots don't make the mistake |
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| How big is your trailer, most smaller trailers they put LT, is a 10ply tire. If you carry 3 horses and have a small lq. I would put 12 ply on you trailer. I sold a set for like 112.00 plus mounting.
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | Were they Goodyear G614? They are expensive but worth it. Not sure how big your trailer is but a 14 ply tire on my LQ trailers is a must in my opinion. |
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Location: W. Pa. | I wish this post would have been here last week. Does Goodyear make an ST tire? I called my tire place and they had me buy an ST tire with 10 ply sidewall. Is this not what I should have bought? |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | I didn't have any luck with the ST Goodyear tires that came on my trailer. I was lucky and they were faulty and they gave me credit for them. My tire guy told me to go with the LT's and they have been great. I have a 3 horse with 8 foot short wall but usually only haul one horse. |
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Location: The Lone Star State | I have a 8ft shortwall 3 horse platinum I have checked other websites and general consensus is stay with the LT tires.  |
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Location: where ever my L/Q trl is parked | I only buy 14 ply, steel belted both side wall and thread, I know they are expensive, but worth it. |
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| You need a 12 or 14 ply tire. Weather it is anlt or trailer tire. They are built to carriy heqvier weight. And if you have a three horse. And i did not realize how much my horse weighed he weighs over 1200 lbs and my 15 hands mare is weighs the same.youmdo that times three. That 3600 lb. And then trailer weight and tack. You have more weight than you think. I always thought my gelding weighed about 1100 pounds and he was in best shape and best weight he was out of shape as i,had him at the vets. There are lots of those types that are good tires that will not break the bank.
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| What size wheel do you have for the 14 ply? After 3 blowouts in 3 months I bought the 14 ply and have been told that my wheel won't support them at the recommended air pressure and keep them at 85. Another place said my wheel size was fine. My wheels are rated for 85. Thanks |
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| What size tire do you need a 14 ply in. I check for you. I am a small car shop and do,this all the time. |
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| daisycake123 - 2014-09-30 6:58 AM What size tire do you need a 14 ply in. I check for you. I am a small car shop and do,this all the time.
Thanks, I really appreciate it! 235/85 is what I have been buying. On the last blowout I replaced it with a Load Boss 235/85/R16 I was in a small town with limited choices and did not want to get back on the road home without a spare. They kept the pressure at 85 on the Load Boss because of the wheel size, said I could up it if I get new wheels. I don't have a problem buying new wheel sif I need too. |
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| Your wasting your money with anything made in china like the load boss don't Goodyear is the only one who makes a all steel in a 14 ply that's made in America everything else in a 12 or 14 ply is gonna come from china and your going to keep having problems |
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Location: southeast Texas | From what I have been reading, you have to make sure your rims can handle the added PSI for the Goodyear 14 ply. |
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Location: Borger, Tx | Hankook tires are the best!
I had several blowouts on my 2012 Exiss 4 horse with 8' living quarters before I finally put the Hankooks on and no more blowouts. I had tried Goodyear Michalen etc...
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Location: Here | Aqhaczy - 2014-09-29 10:07 PM I only buy 14 ply, steel belted both side wall and thread, I know they are expensive, but worth it.
Same here only 14 ply st tires on any of my trailers |
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| mikesfleet - 2014-09-30 7:37 AM Your wasting your money with anything made in china like the load boss don't Goodyear is the only one who makes a all steel in a 14 ply that's made in America everything else in a 12 or 14 ply is gonna come from china and your going to keep having problems I agree, it was the best I could find. Going to use as the spare and replace others with good year or hankook 14 ply and buy new wheels.
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | Hankook's are made in South Korea unless something has changed recently. |
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Location: Cap'n Joan Rotgut.....alberta | i found this article a while back somewhere so i will share it..up here the st trailer tires run about 400 per tire...............m
to be a trailer tire it MUST HAVE .... ST ... in the number sequence like your tires they should read ... ST235 85 16 or ST235 85r16 .....
Trailer tires will have a straight line tread pattern to make them pull straighter behind your trailer and slide side ways easier when making any kind of turn ........ where truck tires the tread design hangs over the side of the tire and creates a drag which makes the tire fold up and become damaged very easily.Running your trailer tires at full air pressure that is stated on the sidewalls of your trailer tires is required to get the best use of the tire. Stiffer side walls, less heat (under inflated tires will get so hot they will glow in the dark)
Most trailer tires showing a load range E or F will show 3,000 to 4,000 load weight for each tire ... truck tires are about a 1000 lbs less per tire .... so multiply whatever number you find on your tires by 4 and that is the maximum weight the tires can handle .... and that does not mean at hiway speed ... you want to have at least 25% more tire load capacity than the weight you are carrying in your trailer and be aware ... 65MPH IS THE MAX SPEED FOR MOST TRAILER TIRES!! |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | mruggles - 2014-09-30 1:29 PM i found this article a while back somewhere so i will share it..up here the st trailer tires run about 400 per tire...............m
to be a trailer tire it MUST HAVE .... ST ... in the number sequence like your tires they should read ... ST235 85 16 or ST235 85r16 .....
Trailer tires will have a straight line tread pattern to make them pull straighter behind your trailer and slide side ways easier when making any kind of turn ........ where truck tires the tread design hangs over the side of the tire and creates a drag which makes the tire fold up and become damaged very easily.
Running your trailer tires at full air pressure that is stated on the sidewalls of your trailer tires is required to get the best use of the tire. Stiffer side walls, less heat (under inflated tires will get so hot they will glow in the dark)
Most trailer tires showing a load range E or F will show 3,000 to 4,000 load weight for each tire ... truck tires are about a 1000 lbs less per tire .... so multiply whatever number you find on your tires by 4 and that is the maximum weight the tires can handle .... and that does not mean at hiway speed ... you want to have at least 25% more tire load capacity than the weight you are carrying in your trailer and be aware ... 65MPH IS THE MAX SPEED FOR MOST TRAILER TIRES!!
I'm not ever going to run ST's that are made in China again. It was a nightmare and good luck finding a ST tire made in America. |
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Location: Cap'n Joan Rotgut.....alberta | Nevertooold - 2014-10-01 1:09 PM mruggles - 2014-09-30 1:29 PM i found this article a while back somewhere so i will share it..up here the st trailer tires run about 400 per tire...............m
to be a trailer tire it MUST HAVE .... ST ... in the number sequence like your tires they should read ... ST235 85 16 or ST235 85r16 .....
Trailer tires will have a straight line tread pattern to make them pull straighter behind your trailer and slide side ways easier when making any kind of turn ........ where truck tires the tread design hangs over the side of the tire and creates a drag which makes the tire fold up and become damaged very easily.
Running your trailer tires at full air pressure that is stated on the sidewalls of your trailer tires is required to get the best use of the tire. Stiffer side walls, less heat (under inflated tires will get so hot they will glow in the dark)
Most trailer tires showing a load range E or F will show 3,000 to 4,000 load weight for each tire ... truck tires are about a 1000 lbs less per tire .... so multiply whatever number you find on your tires by 4 and that is the maximum weight the tires can handle .... and that does not mean at hiway speed ... you want to have at least 25% more tire load capacity than the weight you are carrying in your trailer and be aware ... 65MPH IS THE MAX SPEED FOR MOST TRAILER TIRES!!
well now i am gonna have to go look at our trailer..lol...we just got it a few months ago and to be honest i never even looked at the tires, i checked to make sure they were not worn out ..lol.....i think as long as you have a good ply you should be good....the price difference is crazy imo......
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| I am replacing mine with the good year 14 ply. I am getting different opinions on whether I need to upgrade my wheel. Some say I can run 100 psi but I am leaning towards getting new wheels too. |
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Location: Cap'n Joan Rotgut.....alberta | mruggles - 2014-10-01 1:31 PM Nevertooold - 2014-10-01 1:09 PM mruggles - 2014-09-30 1:29 PM i found this article a while back somewhere so i will share it..up here the st trailer tires run about 400 per tire...............m
to be a trailer tire it MUST HAVE .... ST ... in the number sequence like your tires they should read ... ST235 85 16 or ST235 85r16 .....
Trailer tires will have a straight line tread pattern to make them pull straighter behind your trailer and slide side ways easier when making any kind of turn ........ where truck tires the tread design hangs over the side of the tire and creates a drag which makes the tire fold up and become damaged very easily.
Running your trailer tires at full air pressure that is stated on the sidewalls of your trailer tires is required to get the best use of the tire. Stiffer side walls, less heat (under inflated tires will get so hot they will glow in the dark)
Most trailer tires showing a load range E or F will show 3,000 to 4,000 load weight for each tire ... truck tires are about a 1000 lbs less per tire .... so multiply whatever number you find on your tires by 4 and that is the maximum weight the tires can handle .... and that does not mean at hiway speed ... you want to have at least 25% more tire load capacity than the weight you are carrying in your trailer and be aware ... 65MPH IS THE MAX SPEED FOR MOST TRAILER TIRES!!
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i just called a tire shop, just because..and you are bang on correcto, seguin tires (thats the brand they sell) are made in china.............now im gonna call the tire guy we use and quiz him.....thanks for the info nevertooold
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | I swore up and down I would not put China made tires on my trailer. After 2 sets of Goodyear G614 at over $300 a tire and they didn't wear well. The sidewalls held but the tread wore stupid and I got the alignment checked on it a couple times during the life of the tires to make sure it was in alignment. We're distributers for a statewide tire chain and asked our rep what he recommended for my trailer. I'm not at home to look at the trailer but they're made in China 14 ply steel belted and cost over $100 less per tire. I am more than pleased. They saved me money, and are wearing exceptionally well. I don't like giving the Chinese my money but until the US makes something decent I'll keep buying what's working for me. |
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| CYA Ranch - 2014-09-30 3:14 PM I swore up and down I would not put China made tires on my trailer. After 2 sets of Goodyear G614 at over $300 a tire and they didn't wear well. The sidewalls held but the tread wore stupid and I got the alignment checked on it a couple times during the life of the tires to make sure it was in alignment. We're distributers for a statewide tire chain and asked our rep what he recommended for my trailer. I'm not at home to look at the trailer but they're made in China 14 ply steel belted and cost over $100 less per tire. I am more than pleased. They saved me money, and are wearing exceptionally well. I don't like giving the Chinese my money but until the US makes something decent I'll keep buying what's working for me. Thanks for the info, now rethinking it.
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | I'll look when I get home and let you know what I have. I also have them filled with Nitrogen. Some people say I wasted money doing it but all I know is I drove home 6 hours this summer with 4 horses and 100+ degrees, we stopped part way home and we felt the tires - they weren't hot at all. I have a 4 horse with a 14' shortwall with a slideout. I wish you were closer because I can get them at a discount. |
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| CYA Ranch - 2014-09-30 5:08 PM I'll look when I get home and let you know what I have. I also have them filled with Nitrogen. Some people say I wasted money doing it but all I know is I drove home 6 hours this summer with 4 horses and 100+ degrees, we stopped part way home and we felt the tires - they weren't hot at all. I have a 4 horse with a 14' shortwall with a slideout. I wish you were closer because I can get them at a discount.
I have a 4 horse with a 10'ft LQ. I try to avoid travel in the heat of the day down here but my tires still get HOT!! Last blowout I couldn't even touch the lugnuts they were so hot. I am going to try the nitrogen. I had 3 blowouts on the trailer in 2 months, went to a race Sunday and had a blowout on front drivers side on my dually, had all new Michelins put on today. Truck tires were due though, purchased in 09. The trailer has 3 new tires on it but going to replace all 4 with 14 ply. The 3 recent blowouts were covered under warranty. |
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | rodeomom3 - 2014-09-30 5:34 PM CYA Ranch - 2014-09-30 5:08 PM I'll look when I get home and let you know what I have. I also have them filled with Nitrogen. Some people say I wasted money doing it but all I know is I drove home 6 hours this summer with 4 horses and 100+ degrees, we stopped part way home and we felt the tires - they weren't hot at all. I have a 4 horse with a 14' shortwall with a slideout. I wish you were closer because I can get them at a discount. I have a 4 horse with a 10'ft LQ. I try to avoid travel in the heat of the day down here but my tires still get HOT!! Last blowout I couldn't even touch the lugnuts they were so hot. I am going to try the nitrogen. I had 3 blowouts on the trailer in 2 months, went to a race Sunday and had a blowout on front drivers side on my dually, had all new Michelins put on today. Truck tires were due though, purchased in 09. The trailer has 3 new tires on it but going to replace all 4 with 14 ply. The 3 recent blowouts were covered under warranty.
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| 235/85 10 ply |
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | You should really have a 14 ply tire. I'd rather have too much tire than not enough. I took pictures of my tires. I'll try to attach.
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| Thank you for taking the time to do this. Yes, 14 ply from now on. |
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| I think the pound age of the horses in most trailers are underated, 3, 1200 horses is 3600 plus 800 worht of tack. I would go with at least 12 ply trailer tire they have a higher heat tolerance if not a 14 ply. Goodyear is not a good a tire maker as they used to be. When i am putting tires on a heavy trailer i call my supplier. I have 3 different ones and get their advice.
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | daisycake123 - 2014-10-01 6:07 AM I think the pound age of the horses in most trailers are underated, 3, 1200 horses is 3600 plus 800 worht of tack. I would go with at least 12 ply trailer tire they have a higher heat tolerance if not a 14 ply. Goodyear is not a good a tire maker as they used to be. When i am putting tires on a heavy trailer i call my supplier. I have 3 different ones and get their advice.
I talked to my supplier too and even though he also sells the GOodyears he suggested the ones I purchased. He sells them to a lot of people with LQ trailers and stock trailers and people really like them Tire shopping is about as frustrating as saddle fitting/shopping. |
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Location: Somewhere between raising hell and Amazing Grace | I posted a thread on this a while back. Went with Goodyear ST tires. HUGE mistake. I'll never buy Goodyear anything again I don't think. Four brand new tires, nearly 1000 dollars. No serious wear and tear on the tires. Just over a year old. And the belts on two broke. We made it to OK to pick up a mare and noticed two tires were very swollen. One ended up blowing on the way back, thankfully close to home. We threw the other one out when we replaced them with Hankook 14 ply. Much happier now and that the main tire that every livestock hauler around here uses.
I want to say we paid 220 each BUT it's a hometown family owned shop and I know we got a little bit of help on the price since we do all our business there.
Key points, the heavier trailers, avoid LT tires. They are not designed for horse trailers. People use them because you can run 75 mph plus.
Second, I don't think there's a single ST tire rated for over 65 mph. So more reason to slow down. First for safety, second for fuel mileage, and last, to save on tires.
Yes American made is way better then China, but sometimes you don't have a choice. I have no idea where our Hankooks were made but I'm happy with them. |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | missroselee - 2014-10-02 10:34 AM I posted a thread on this a while back. Went with Goodyear ST tires. HUGE mistake. I'll never buy Goodyear anything again I don't think. Four brand new tires, nearly 1000 dollars. No serious wear and tear on the tires. Just over a year old. And the belts on two broke. We made it to OK to pick up a mare and noticed two tires were very swollen. One ended up blowing on the way back, thankfully close to home. We threw the other one out when we replaced them with Hankook 14 ply. Much happier now and that the main tire that every livestock hauler around here uses.
I want to say we paid 220 each BUT it's a hometown family owned shop and I know we got a little bit of help on the price since we do all our business there.
Key points, the heavier trailers, avoid LT tires. They are not designed for horse trailers. People use them because you can run 75 mph plus.
Second, I don't think there's a single ST tire rated for over 65 mph. So more reason to slow down. First for safety, second for fuel mileage, and last, to save on tires.
Yes American made is way better then China, but sometimes you don't have a choice. I have no idea where our Hankooks were made but I'm happy with them.
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Location: would like to be where it does not snow | The things I learn on here ! Had to look at my tires when I got home. I have a 4 horse w/15 LQ, We have Goodyear Regional RHT II 245/70 R 17.5 I think it is 16 or 18 ply not sure, with a G rating on them. |
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| happy2ride - 2014-10-03 9:50 AM
The things I learn on here ! Had to look at my tires when I got home. I have a 4 horse w/15 LQ, We have Goodyear Regional RHT II 245/70 R 17.5 I think it is 16 or 18 ply not sure, with a G rating on them.
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | cheryl makofka - 2014-10-03 10:09 AM happy2ride - 2014-10-03 9:50 AM The things I learn on here ! Had to look at my tires when I got home. I have a 4 horse w/15 LQ, We have Goodyear Regional RHT II 245/70 R 17.5 I think it is 16 or 18 ply not sure, with a G rating on them. G rating is 12 ply
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Location: would like to be where it does not snow | Thank you Cheryl I will have to check closer I didn't want to crawl around in the dirt with my good clothes on I know we upgraded when we ordered for this trailer. |
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