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Location: Purcell Ok | Do you expect the 1st shipment to be included with the stud fee? |
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| It doesn't matter, but I figure the cost of shipping into the stud fee, if not already included, when i'm choosing who to breed to. |
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Location: Purcell Ok | Thank you! I do not think so, I work at a ranch where we stand 8 stallions. I know how much goes into preparing each shipment. When we get mare owners who complain that this stud or that stud includes 1st shipment it drives me crazy! 
Just wanted to see what y'all thought!
Thanks again!
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Location: In The Land of Cotton | And, also add what the vet will charge you too. |
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | No I don't expect it, but I sure can't stand it to be high. I know what it costs here to collect one and it is really reasonable. If they want $1500 for the stud fee, $300 a shipment (reasonable) and then $500 chute fee, they can kiss my behind. To me a chute fee is a collection/shipped semen fee. |
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Location: Purcell Ok | What if the chute/farm fee is included in the stud fee and the shipping extra. $1500 stud fee ($500 chute included) + $300 for shipping?
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Location: In The Land of Cotton | MinorRed - 2014-10-02 4:03 PM What if the chute/farm fee is included in the stud fee and the shipping extra. $1500 stud fee ($500 chute included) + $300 for shipping?
That is the way my contract for next year reads - with different figures. I just look at it like the farm broke it down for me. |
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Location: Purcell Ok | 3canstorun - 2014-10-02 3:04 PM
MinorRed - 2014-10-02 4:03 PM What if the chute/farm fee is included in the stud fee and the shipping extra. $1500 stud fee ($500 chute included) + $300 for shipping?
That is the way my contract for next year reads - with different figures. I just look at it like the farm broke it down for me.
Thanks for the reply. We do break it down in all contracts so you know exactly what you are paying for.
I just didn't know if I was alone in feeling like this is normal!
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Location: In The Land of Cotton | MinorRed - 2014-10-02 4:09 PM 3canstorun - 2014-10-02 3:04 PM MinorRed - 2014-10-02 4:03 PM What if the chute/farm fee is included in the stud fee and the shipping extra. $1500 stud fee ($500 chute included) + $300 for shipping? That is the way my contract for next year reads - with different figures. I just look at it like the farm broke it down for me. Thanks for the reply. We do break it down in all contracts so you know exactly what you are paying for. I just didn't know if I was alone in feeling like this is normal!
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Location: In The Land of Cotton | MinorRed - 2014-10-02 4:09 PM 3canstorun - 2014-10-02 3:04 PM MinorRed - 2014-10-02 4:03 PM What if the chute/farm fee is included in the stud fee and the shipping extra. $1500 stud fee ($500 chute included) + $300 for shipping? That is the way my contract for next year reads - with different figures. I just look at it like the farm broke it down for me. Thanks for the reply. We do break it down in all contracts so you know exactly what you are paying for. I just didn't know if I was alone in feeling like this is normal!
And, I loved it that you did! I just had to add it up in my head and confirm with the email. The internet is a small world. |
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Location: Purcell Ok | 3canstorun - 2014-10-02 3:13 PM
MinorRed - 2014-10-02 4:09 PM 3canstorun - 2014-10-02 3:04 PM MinorRed - 2014-10-02 4:03 PM What if the chute/farm fee is included in the stud fee and the shipping extra. $1500 stud fee ($500 chute included) + $300 for shipping? That is the way my contract for next year reads - with different figures. I just look at it like the farm broke it down for me. Thanks for the reply. We do break it down in all contracts so you know exactly what you are paying for. I just didn't know if I was alone in feeling like this is normal!
Very small! I love the stallion you are breeding to! I think I am going to breed one of my girls to him as well! |
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Location: In The Land of Cotton | MinorRed - 2014-10-02 4:14 PM 3canstorun - 2014-10-02 3:13 PM MinorRed - 2014-10-02 4:09 PM 3canstorun - 2014-10-02 3:04 PM MinorRed - 2014-10-02 4:03 PM What if the chute/farm fee is included in the stud fee and the shipping extra. $1500 stud fee ($500 chute included) + $300 for shipping? That is the way my contract for next year reads - with different figures. I just look at it like the farm broke it down for me. Thanks for the reply. We do break it down in all contracts so you know exactly what you are paying for. I just didn't know if I was alone in feeling like this is normal! Very small! I love the stallion you are breeding to! I think I am going to breed one of my girls to him as well!
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | MinorRed - 2014-10-02 2:03 PM What if the chute/farm fee is included in the stud fee and the shipping extra. $1500 stud fee ($500 chute included) + $300 for shipping?
Then I don't want to know about it because I feel I am paying for the same thing twice. I can get a stud collected at a nice repro clinic for around $250. I understand that may be cheaper than down south, but I am going to be miffed if I read in a contract that the stud fee is $1000, $500 chute fee so advertised as $1500 and then $300 to ship me semen each time. Just keep that part to your self in my opinion. $1500 + shipped semen fees. Chute fees are a load of crap. Working in the cutting/reined cowhorse it was just another way to nickle and dime. Every stud and their brother are $1500. I can pick some REALLY nice ones for that and yet that seems to be the starting fee on unproven whatevers. Just my rant, but bottom line I hate the chute fee business. Stick with stud fee and shipped semen/collection fee per shipment. |
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Location: Home....Smiling M Farms | wyoming barrel racer - 2014-10-02 10:59 PM
MinorRed - 2014-10-02 2:03 PM What if the chute/farm fee is included in the stud fee and the shipping extra. $1500 stud fee ($500 chute included) + $300 for shipping?
Then I don't want to know about it because I feel I am paying for the same thing twice. I can get a stud collected at a nice repro clinic for around $250. I understand that may be cheaper than down south, but I am going to be miffed if I read in a contract that the stud fee is $1000, $500 chute fee so advertised as $1500 and then $300 to ship me semen each time. Just keep that part to your self in my opinion. $1500 + shipped semen fees. Chute fees are a load of crap. Working in the cutting/reined cowhorse it was just another way to nickle and dime. Every stud and their brother are $1500. I can pick some REALLY nice ones for that and yet that seems to be the starting fee on unproven whatevers. Just my rant, but bottom line I hate the chute fee business. Stick with stud fee and shipped semen/collection fee per shipment.
Exactly! I had one like that once that made me want to pull my hair out! $1500 stud fee, $500 chute fee, plus $300 for shipped semen....frozen semen, that was stored here, because the stud was in Brazil..... |
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Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | Just a question along this same topic. What exactly is a "chute fee" suppose to be? I notice a lot of cowhorse bred stallions have a chute fee. Some race stallions do now too. In some cases it seems to be the expense that would be paid to the farm because the stallion doesn't belong to the farm. They are standing him for someone else. In some cases you get 2 shipments for that fee. Even if you only need one to get your mare in foal. I've always hated bidding on a SSA and having a chute fee being charged on top of the breeding fee. Then shipping is more yet. I really don't like all the charges being added after the stud fee. If he's worth $XXX then just say that's what the fee is.
WYO as far as the shipping fees. I have noticed in the last 2 years huge increases in the freight cost charged by FedEx. A few years ago it cost just over $100 to get semen shipped from Oregon to SC. Last year it cost $120 to ship to TN. This year it cost $180 to ship to TN. So I've gone to charging the COST of collection and added the actual freight. If you live closer to me you will get a good price on shipped semen. If you live across the country it will be pretty costly. I tried charging a flat fee and I was having to eat the extra. I don't make a dime on shipping. It was getting to be a real sore subject with me. |
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Location: Purcell Ok | With the farm I'm at, the chute/farm/booing fee is the part that goes to the farm. This is the deposit that you send in with the contract. You are not really paying an extra chute/farm fee it is included in the total stud fee. We really don't make anything off of shipping because as stated above the cost has gotten higher, where available, we try and do first overnight, which gets the semen in before 10am.
As for the chute fee in SSA's with ours, it is half the normal chute fee. This goes to cover our cost of having to collect the stallion since we don't charge a collection fee. |
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Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | I guess my point is I don't like chute fees. If the stud fee is 1000 + 500 chute fee just say the stud fee is 1500 and don't overshare. In fact when I find out a stallion has a chute fee I usually scratch him off my list.
And WHAT is the chute fee for?
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Location: Purcell Ok | At our farm it is really the booking fee. Return the contract with the booking fee and just have the remainder paid in full before we ship or the mare leaves the farm. So basically it is just a deposit. |
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Location: Kansas | wyoming barrel racer - 2014-10-02 2:57 PM No I don't expect it, but I sure can't stand it to be high. I know what it costs here to collect one and it is really reasonable. If they want $1500 for the stud fee, $300 a shipment (reasonable) and then $500 chute fee, they can kiss my behind. To me a chute fee is a collection/shipped semen fee.
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Location: Four Corners Colorado | OregonBR - 2014-10-03 10:06 AM I guess my point is I don't like chute fees. If the stud fee is 1000 + 500 chute fee just say the stud fee is 1500 and don't overshare. In fact when I find out a stallion has a chute fee I usually scratch him off my list.
And WHAT is the chute fee for?
Well when I first started looking into breeding horses as a very young girl I thought they had to run the stallion through some sort of chute to get a mare bred because of a story I read about a hard to handle TB stallion LOL! |
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We do charge a flat fee for collection/shipping if additional shipments needed after the 1st shipment. |
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | rockinas - 2014-10-03 10:25 AM We include it in the fee.
We do charge a flat fee for collection/shipping if additional shipments needed after the 1st shipment.
That and of course how awesome Dazzler is, is one of the reasons I chose him for my mare. You went above and beyond to help me out when my husband made the last minute decison to let me AI that mare. |
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