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| So , I'm really wanting a blue roan filly ! Almost all of them are bred with blue valentine & Hancock breeding .. Anyone know how their attitudes are ? Are they athletic ? Decent barrel prospects ? Just wanted some opinions :)
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Rad Dork
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Location: Oklahoma | There are some threads that discuss it extensively and I don't think there is much middle ground. You either love them or hate them. I don't see many marketed at barrel horses except from a few specialized farms..... All that being said... I have one that goes back to Hancock on both sides and he is pretty special to me. I didn't start him (bought him when he was 8), so I can't tell you anything about training one. Mine was originally a heading horse and then was put on the barrels. He's extremely level heade and hasn't ever offered to do anything stupid with me. |
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| I have two three year old Hancock mares right now, we have had them since they were 5 months old. They are both calm, super level headed horses that are strong and powerful. I have started both on barrels and have been many places to see the sights and multiple people try to buy them everywhere they go especially when they find out their age and how well behaved they are. These horses are cowy and quick but will never make cutters or reiners they are just not that athletic. They are big boned, big hip, fast and strong. IMO, the perfect barrel/all around rodeo horse. As you can tell, I love mine. Also, we have taught them everything they know they are quick learners and have never bucked. |
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| Well so far I like the sound of them . I'm look at a 2 yr old .. Not broke . But id like to break get myself if they are level headed :) then eventually start her on the pattern . Would be a fun little project I think.. And pretty to look at ;) |
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Elite Veteran
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Location: The barn...where else? SW Missouri | Here is an older thread. I love my Hancock/ Blue Valentine mare.
http://forums.barrelhorseworld.com/forum/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=448582&start=1&highlight=Hancock&highlightmode=1
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| I have a double bred blue valentine and Hancock mare. I have had a lot of horses and she is my favorite! I have had her since she was a yearling she is 10 now she is the most we'll tempered mare/ horse I have ever had. She is super super handy not overly fast but the mare can turn. She has done alil bit of everything. Some people say they tend to be buckers. She has never bucked with me infact I have given children lessons on her. She is by far the coolest mare I have ever had!! |
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 A Barrel Of Monkeys
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Location: Texas | Mine is linebred Hancock on his sire's side, race bred on his dam's side. He's smart, very smart, and athletic. He's the only one I've ever owned. |
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| Here is a pic of mine just before they turned 3. |
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 Don't Ask Me
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| i have a hancock horse-- and we absolutely love her--she will never go anywhere
she goes western and english- does whatever you ask-- is calm..very smart.. knows when an adult or child is having first lesson.. i have ran 2d times with her on a sat-- placed in top 3 english show on sunday then cam ehome and gave the 4 yr old granddaughter a riding lesson and she has never done anything wrong .
i also had a blue valentine mare that was the same what
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 Accident Prone
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | Rollingrfarm has one that is really nice and needs to be started on barrels. |
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Location: OH-IO | I had a B.V. 3 year old filly. LOVED HER....most calm young one ive ever dealt with.
sat for 3 months, our cows got out-i threw my step dad on her and off they went tromping through the snow and cold away from the other horses like she was 20 years old..
also wrapped her leadrope around a water spickett, never budged. just sat there with her head stuck until we found her!
I was amazed!
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| Wow they sound really nice :) thanks everyone for the opinions !! |
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 Night Watchman
Posts: 5516
Location: Central Montana | I'm not a fan of that bloodline but a lot of people are. It is hard to find that color without those bloodlines.
A girl I show with has a blue roan gelding that is a son of Hangten Surprize that is blue roan and he is 100% reining bred. I was a little surprised at the color with the lines he has.
Edited by GoinJettin 2014-10-05 9:39 AM
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 Buttered Noodles Snacker
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Location: NC | This is my first BV/Hancock bred horse (http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/bvh+bad+fast ). She is really sweet and seems very level headed. I bought her very lightly started this winter and rode her maybe 3-4 times at home in round pen and trails then took her to a big 900horse trailride and she did great. crossed creeks and handled the crowd perfectly. She acted green in the sense of weaving down the paths and not walking straight lines but wasn't spooky or hot at all. my only problem with her right now is she is LAZY and does NOT want to lope. she has very smooth gaits and really extends at a trot but doesn't want to break into a lope. once in the lope she is really smooth but is ready to break right back to a trot. I am hoping she will have an uh-huh moment and snap out of this because otherwise she is doing great. Good luck. |
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 Undercover Amish Mafia Member
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Location: Kansas | Hancocks are known to test you, not all but a majority. I would own another blue valentine bred horse in a heartbeat. Smart, witty, and quick on their feet. |
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  More bootie than waist!
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | I personally steer clear of them. |
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The Advice Guru
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| Most of the breeding is off of the papers now. If it isn't within the first three generations, I pay no attention. If it is within the first three, I take a hard look at the second and first generation and see what the temperament is.
If you like the horse, buy it, there are always diamonds in the rough.
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| CYA Ranch - 2014-10-06 9:10 AM
I personally steer clear of them.
Ditto.
If you are set on a roan ... look into some of the working cowhorse lines (reining and cutting) - Peptoboonsmal being my fav. |
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 Ms Bling Bling Sleeze Kitty
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Location: LouLouVille, OK | LOVE UM! I have 4 horses right now and 3 of them are out of the same Hancock /Suagr Bars stud. If you do your homework on Blue Valentine himself, he actually won a round at Cheyenne Frontiers days, and he wasn't even patterned! He was just that broke... and Hancock was unbeatable on the track, and if you do your research on him... He himself never bucked, but the mares that were brought to him gave him that credit... Mine are all athletic and GREAT minds, they have awesome fun personalitys and not to mention WELL MADE! They have great bone and hoof to go with those minds. They never quit ya. I have found if you take your time and put it in there right, you don't have to retrain um. Go for it! Love Love Love mine!
Edited by cindyt 2014-10-06 9:49 AM
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 Roan Wonder
Location: SW MO | Everyone you talk to has different opinion on them, just like any blood line. Peptoboonsmal was suggested above. People I know who have had them say a lot of them start bucking when they are 4 or 5 and never quit. I personally haven't ever owned one so I can't tell you. We have a daughter of A Streaka Fling that is very nice mare and rises nice foal. Her foals are very stand offish to start with but once they get used to you they are big gentle pets. For years we have raised Blue Valentine horses & we have never had problem with them bucking most of ours like 99% of them never buck the first time they are saddled. Our stallions we leave out with the mares for a couple of months go get them and ride them right off like it was yesterday. We don't have to warm them up before you ride them. We want a horse you can step on ride off & go to work, not one you have lounge 20 minutes before you ride it. We have several that have done really well in speed events.
We have a gelding here now that is a 5 yr old my husband is riding for another guy. The guy never got enough time to break the colt so it came to us as a not started 5 yr old. It is line bred Blue Valentine & Driftwood. The horse has bucked a few times with a saddle, but never with a rider. Even being as old as he was you can leave him several days and not ride him and then saddle him up & off you go, no buck.
I will admit there are some Blue Valentine horses that are to big & clunky to make speed horses, as with any horse a lot of it depends on what you have crossed him with |
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Location: Oxford, Kansas | This is my 2 yr old and I think it's safe to say he has ALOT of Blue Valentine/Hancock influence and I have nevery loved a horse more! He's a lifer, most level headed, quiet, athletic and super smart.
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/cinsational+bailey
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 Guys Just Wanna Have Fun
Posts: 5530
Location: OH | The basis for a lot of the Cowans initial broodmare band were daughters of John Red who was by Red Man the sire of Blue Valentine. In fact, the great PC Bronsin is out of a John Red daughter, so yes--yes I am a fan. |
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 Bulls Eye
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Location: Oklahoma | I'm a fan... LOVE LOVE LOVE these horses. |
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Blue valentine / Hancock bred horses