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Location: Seward, Nebraska | Need some opinions on saddles for horses with short backs, and forward heart girth. I'm leaning to a round skirt circle y with 3 way rigging, or a Martin, I have a tex tan all around roper but It's rigging is to far back an does not fit my mare, so tex tan is out since from what I can tell all their rigging is 7/8. With all the saddle brands out their need some help weeding out the bad and focusing on the good ones.
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| Have you looked at the Double J Pozzi Speedster? I know they're shorter. Or at a Double J Intimidator? |
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| Ed wright or Shiloh saddles worked well with my short backed mare |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Burn n' Turn - 2014-10-05 12:28 PM Have you looked at the Double J Pozzi Speedster? I know they're shorter. Or at a Double J Intimidator?
These are the ones that I was going to suggest, their skirts are shorter  |
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| Southtxponygirl - 2014-10-05 10:52 AM
Burn n' Turn - 2014-10-05 12:28 PM Have you looked at the Double J Pozzi Speedster? I know they're shorter. Or at a Double J Intimidator?
These are the ones that I was going to suggest, their skirts are shorter
That's why I suggested them, they have shorter skirts. And they also have the Double J rigging in them, so you can adjust it to fit almost any horse! |
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Location: Oklahoma | I would beware of a Crown C. The rigging is nice, but I've been working with mine on a short backed horse (he's also shorter, not just short backed) and it seems like the saddle takes up his entire back.... And not to mention they sit further back anyway.
Once he gets some weight off I definetly plan on having him fitted for something like a Pozzi pro. I'm not sure just how much shorter they are, but it looked like a world of difference when I put one on my long backed horse! |
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Location: Seward, Nebraska | I have looked at double j but it was because they were pretty but now I'll really look! Thank you I've never heard of Shiloh brand I'll check them out |
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Location: Seward, Nebraska | Has anyone tried the just be natural tree free barrel saddle from circle y? |
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Location: Opelousas, LA | Here is an older Double J Scamper that is super short skirted.
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| Barnmom - 2014-10-06 10:34 AM
Here is an older Double J Scamper that is super short skirted.
They still make these, but now they are called The Intidmidator. Also just saw on their website that they are making a Flex Tree now. They look short as well. |
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Location: Seward, Nebraska | Double j is defiantly on my list, I'm also looking at a couple circle y's and still googling some smaller high quality brands thank you all |
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Location: Fort Worth / Springtown | goldy8988 - 2014-10-06 12:06 PM Has anyone tried the just be natural tree free barrel saddle from circle y? I have and after 14 years of switching saddles on this horse, I'm done --- I've kept him running in the JBN longer than any other saddle - tried over 50.
I even thought about an Arabian saddle at one time, but with his high wither decided it wouldn't work anyway.
I've put many bare trees on his back and none of them fit correctly - and they all extended too far back. There are two widths of JBN so if one doesn't work, you might try the other size. I had to "alter" the front to not interfere with his high wither, though.
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Location: Seward, Nebraska | I took a tracing of her withers to the tack store an it fit a 8.5" gullet crown c which was the shortest skirt in the store |
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Location: Seward, Nebraska | Won't let me post pics off my phone but does anyone know how the double j tree/gullet width an seat size differs from the Martin, I know the martin seats bigger cuz I haven't fit a 14.5 inch saddle seat since middle school. |
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Location: Seward, Nebraska | Bump finally got pics
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Location: Lost in the corn of Iowa. | What about a Charmayne James record breaker? That has a tucked up skirt on it and might work. |
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Location: NC | My Tod Slone has a short skirt. it fit in a 24" long box to ship. it also is the B3 tree and they fit wide straighter backed horses like yours looks like. you can see how much pad is infront of and behind. This is my only one I have had so not sure if they all have shorted skirts or just this one....
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Location: Seward, Nebraska | I've thaught about the record breaker but they don't have it on their website any more, I took wither tracings to a tack store an the cactus nbha fit for gullet but skirt was to long. We have a expo next weekend so I plan on trying every saddle their to see if I can find one that works for us both, I've been reading specs on every saddle to compare but it's so hard to tell if they will work online an the more I obsess over saddle fit the more confused an discouraged I'm getting! Why is saddle shopping such a pain? |
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Location: The best kept secret in TX | goldy8988 - 2014-11-07 9:53 AM I've thaught about the record breaker but they don't have it on their website any more, I took wither tracings to a tack store an the cactus nbha fit for gullet but skirt was to long. We have a expo next weekend so I plan on trying every saddle their to see if I can find one that works for us both, I've been reading specs on every saddle to compare but it's so hard to tell if they will work online an the more I obsess over saddle fit the more confused an discouraged I'm getting! Why is saddle shopping such a pain?
I get all my saddles from Teskey's. They can ship you a record breaker to try for ten days and you can send it back if you don't like it. THey can literally get you any saddle for a little less off retail. Jeff there has always been good to me about those things. Really nice people with really great connections.  |
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Location: Seward, Nebraska | I get the same treatment at fort western they just don't have tons to try but I'm hoping the expo will have a good selection to give me an idea of what I want. To order thru the fort. |
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Location: on my horse | I have an extremely short backed big wide shouldered decently withered horse that needs a saddle with a lot of rock to the bars and the best fitting thing I've found is an older Martha Josey round skirt barrel saddle. That little thing fits him like a glove, his muscles are built up where they should be and i don't even have to use a corrector type pad anymore. I will add that I bought it used and paid like 400 bucks for it so check out used older saddles! If you want I'll take a pic of it tomorrow and post it, it's so ugly from wear and tear and use but it works like a charm and is safe. |
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Location: Seward, Nebraska | Yes please I had one of those got it used 10 years ago for 100 it was my first barrel saddle,iv had 5 new saddles to replace the ugly thing but always went back to it but our basement flooded an hubby threw it away when I was at work, almost killed him! That saddle fit everything an me perfect. Wish they would re-make them that well |
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | We have a short backed obese little mare that we've had a hard time with saddle fitting. I have Cactus CJ's both the barrel racer and the Record breaker and I've also tried the Double J CJ Intimidator and Record Breaker. They were all too long in the tree. If you measure from the front concho to the farthest back concho that's a pretty good guesstimate of how long the tree is. I got a hold of a Connie Combs saddle and it was at least 2 inches shorter than my CJ's. You can always find her on FB or call her company. They'll be happy to help you. |
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Location: Piedmont, OK | I use a Tammy Fisher treeless saddle by circle y on my short backed built like a tank mare. It works great on her. |
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Location: Seward, Nebraska | I tried the TF a few years back on some training colts an dident like the stirrups but i sat in the tex tan version of the jbn an liked it other then it felt like stirrups we're be hind me |
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Location: California | Was going to give up and then I found it...The Brazilian saddle...12 lbs, rigged for back comfort and great for short backed horses. Kinda ugly however lol |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | A Double J with the #10 tree, the only thing is this saddle has more rock to it. |
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Location: Seward, Nebraska | Ya I looked at the Brazil, it is ugly, but I'm looking at it also, I do prefer leather,I've been looking for used double js but have to sell my tex tan first, I was wondering if the cactus cj and the Reinsman cj had the same tree?
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Location: on my horse | goldy8988 - 2014-11-08 11:01 AM
Yes please I had one of those got it used 10 years ago for 100 it was my first barrel saddle,iv had 5 new saddles to replace the ugly thing but always went back to it but our basement flooded an hubby threw it away when I was at work, almost killed him! That saddle fit everything an me perfect. Wish they would re-make them that well
First and last pics are on my short backed horse that I described earlier. 3rd pic is it set on my yearling for picture taking purposes and second pic is on my mom's gelding
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Location: Where you need a paddle... Oregon! | I went with a Triple Creek and a 26" 5-Star pad.
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Location: Where you need a paddle... Oregon! | I went with a Triple Creek and a 26" 5-Star pad.
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | To me most of your round skirt saddles will fit better for a short back horse. And a round pad so it dont look so bulky. |
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