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Way OT: Football parents...
just4fun
Reg. Mar 2007
Posted 2014-10-09 11:03 PM
Subject: Way OT: Football parents...



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 How much yelling and insulting is normal? This is my son's first time playing (5th grade) and I can't stand to watch practices! Tonight was especially bad.
So, for those who have experience, what is acceptable?


 
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sodapop
Reg. Feb 2005
Posted 2014-10-09 11:12 PM
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I don't have personal experience with this.  I just know that when it comes to sports people will accept insults of their children much easier than in any other situation. Sports and athletic competition will do that to a sports nut. lol

What are other parents saying?  Do they feel like they are yelling and insulting too?
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GLP
Reg. Oct 2013
Posted 2014-10-10 3:29 AM
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Wow, at my son's practices the parents mostly visited with each other while watching practice. But one time in a little league baseball game my son's team was way behind, our pitcher was having a bad day so they put mine in to pitch. He was accurate but slow. But the pitcher before him was fast and wild that day. Some one in the crowd kept yelling about my son's pitch speed. However he was striking them out and/or causing them to hit little in field bloopers for outs because they couldn't adjust to the change in ball speed. Without turning around I said very loudly that since he started pitching we were getting outs. I also said hey that's my kid you are b#%^*ing about! You don't hear me b%#^ing about your kid,go you? That person shut up right then. I didn't turn and look at the person because I didn't want to embarrass my son with a confrontation. I think by not turning around and making eye contact it was like I was talking to everyone in the stands and didn't embarrass them directly. I thought it would not be as much of a personal attack. Anyway it worked and my don't team didn't win but they pulled to within a run to tie it up and my son got the game ball, so it turned out ok.
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Griz
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2014-10-10 5:33 AM
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JMOHO - many of them take this WAY too far. 99.9% of those poor kids are NOT going to play professional ball - it is SUPPOSED to be FUN. 
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sodapop
Reg. Feb 2005
Posted 2014-10-10 6:41 AM
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Griz - 2014-10-10 5:33 AM

JMOHO - many of them take this WAY too far. 99.9% of those poor kids are NOT going to play professional ball - it is SUPPOSED to be FUN. 

 Exactly! Just like their overzealous parent or coach who also never had the ability to be a professional.
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findintimetoride
Reg. May 2008
Posted 2014-10-10 8:49 AM
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Our son plays 6th grade football and I am a little uncomfortable with how hard the coaches can be on the boys. My husband says it is just part of being a boy and reminds me I can be a little tough on him with riding stuff too...My main complaint is the parents on the sidelines screaming at the refs and making loud comments about boys on the other team. Some of the language makes me do "earmuffs" to my 9 year old daughter.
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brlraceaddict
Reg. Jul 2006
Posted 2014-10-10 10:30 AM
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This is the first year I have let my son play football - junior high level.  We have a league here where they can start as 2nd graders and by far the parents in that league are the worst.  I told my son he had to wait for junior high to play and it has been a very pleasant experience so far.  I am sorry for your experience.  It should be about learning the game of football and having fun - more parents should recognize that.  Sigh. 
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CrossDRanch
Reg. Nov 2012
Posted 2014-10-10 10:54 AM
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Yelling can be ok, but insulting is not. I have been a HS coach for 20 years. Sometimes getting loud can motivate some kids. If I am loud it is because the field is huge and there are lots of kids that need to hear what I have to say, but insulting has no place. Find a better coach. Most of the times youth coaches do not know any better. It was the way they were coached as a kid or they are not good at what they do so they think that being rough of them is the way to go.

I joined a new coaching staff a couple of years ago and that is kind of how they operated. They would yell, scream, cuss, or whatever. That is just not how I operate. So I set out to prove that you could get a lot out of kids without having to do all of that. I coached the D-line that year and that is typically a position that takes a lot of yelling, etc..... Anyway, I stayed pretty level headed with them all year and two of the three kids I had turned into all-state players.


Now parents......they can be f'n idiots.
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bocephus's mama
Reg. May 2005
Posted 2014-10-10 11:20 AM
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brlraceaddict - 2014-10-10 10:30 AM This is the first year I have let my son play football - junior high level.  We have a league here where they can start as 2nd graders and by far the parents in that league are the worst.  I told my son he had to wait for junior high to play and it has been a very pleasant experience so far.  I am sorry for your experience.  It should be about learning the game of football and having fun - more parents should recognize that.  Sigh. 

When it comes to football, anything before jr high is scary. First of all, the practice EVERY SINGLE DAY. Everyday! Second, the is full contact we're talking about here - not baseball or soccer. There is a right and wrong way to tackle and the wrong way can cause lifelong injuries or at the very least, bad habits. Third, these are still children. Letting boys get "toughened up" by being total assholes to them isn't acceptable. The typical little leage football coach either never played or has some unfullfilled dreams to revisit.

And to the other poster that is nonconfrontational about someone yelling at your kid from the crowd, you're a better person than I. I had to sub for the team mom in the dugout during tball (T-Ball, people) and the coach on first joked about knocking my kid down and he will remember me forever!
 
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CrossDRanch
Reg. Nov 2012
Posted 2014-10-10 11:34 AM
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bocephus's mama - 2014-10-10 11:20 AM

brlraceaddict - 2014-10-10 10:30 AM This is the first year I have let my son play football - junior high level.  We have a league here where they can start as 2nd graders and by far the parents in that league are the worst.  I told my son he had to wait for junior high to play and it has been a very pleasant experience so far.  I am sorry for your experience.  It should be about learning the game of football and having fun - more parents should recognize that.  Sigh. 

When it comes to football, anything before jr high is scary. First of all, the practice EVERY SINGLE DAY. Everyday! Second, the is full contact we're talking about here - not baseball or soccer. There is a right and wrong way to tackle and the wrong way can cause lifelong injuries or at the very least, bad habits. Third, these are still children. Letting boys get "toughened up" by being total assholes to them isn't acceptable. The typical little leage football coach either never played or has some unfullfilled dreams to revisit.

And to the other poster that is nonconfrontational about someone yelling at your kid from the crowd, you're a better person than I. I had to sub for the team mom in the dugout during tball (T-Ball, people) and the coach on first joked about knocking my kid down and he will remember me forever!
 

If you notice, I would say most HS football coaches (at least in my area) do not let their own kids play youth football until they are older (10-12). Many, including one I work with now who has a 7th grade son did not let his son play until this year.
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brlraceaddict
Reg. Jul 2006
Posted 2014-10-10 12:41 PM
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bocephus's mama - 2014-10-10 9:20 AM
brlraceaddict - 2014-10-10 10:30 AM This is the first year I have let my son play football - junior high level.  We have a league here where they can start as 2nd graders and by far the parents in that league are the worst.  I told my son he had to wait for junior high to play and it has been a very pleasant experience so far.  I am sorry for your experience.  It should be about learning the game of football and having fun - more parents should recognize that.  Sigh. 
When it comes to football, anything before jr high is scary. First of all, the practice EVERY SINGLE DAY. Everyday! Second, the is full contact we're talking about here - not baseball or soccer. There is a right and wrong way to tackle and the wrong way can cause lifelong injuries or at the very least, bad habits. Third, these are still children. Letting boys get "toughened up" by being total assholes to them isn't acceptable. The typical little leage football coach either never played or has some unfullfilled dreams to revisit.



And to the other poster that is nonconfrontational about someone yelling at your kid from the crowd, you're a better person than I. I had to sub for the team mom in the dugout during tball (T-Ball, people) and the coach on first joked about knocking my kid down and he will remember me forever!
 

That is what I thought too and why I did not let my son play until now.  It's not too bad right now.  They practice every day, games on Thursdays and watch game film on Fridays.  It is hard but we have good coaches.  I am thankful our coaches are not asshats.  If they were I would have a problem.  :)  The coaches and parents for the "league" before they get to junior high - well, that and the fact I think they aren't ready for tackle football before then, is whey my son has not played up until now.  He is having a great experience and he LOVES it. 
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CurlyQ
Reg. Sep 2006
Posted 2014-10-10 2:02 PM
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 Parents have gotten so bad, it's embarrassing. We sign a form here every year, which isn't enforced, but should be. Most people, including children, shut their minds shut when voices are raised and insults come out. I wonder if it's the people that haven't played sports? We as parents should encourage them in all that they do and if we have some knowledge, pass it down but game time, isn't the time to coach anyways.thats what practice is for, so it becomes muscle memory. A long time coach told me that years ago, he went to a seminar about youth sports. They gave each group of adults a timed task to do while the rest yelled, whistled and harassed them. At the end the instructor said, that's what your kids hear. Things like this make kids hate sports when if they were nurtured, there's a lot of life lessons to be learned. Theyre kids, this isn't h.s. ball or college level. Irritates me, can't you tell? Lol
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Bigfoot
Reg. Nov 2012
Posted 2014-10-10 7:10 PM
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I've played college football. Seen a lot of yelling. It's just part of the sport. Can't say I've seen much insulting. People will jump my case for this, but oh well. Soft boys grow up to be weak men. If the coach is the one yelling, that's just how he communicates. If he's a good coach, he's not letting others (parents, fans, etc.) yell.
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RocketPilot
Reg. Jun 2006
Posted 2014-10-10 9:49 PM
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My grandson played peewee football two years but he didn't get to play all that much.  If he wanted to be on the team and go thru all the practices, we supported him.  I don't think he played 5th and 6th grade football because he went back to soccer.  In the 7th grade and has played school football.  He didn't play that much, he was on the 'b' team and is really skinny.  His uncle tried to get him to quit, thought he was wasting his time.   My thought was that he was getting to practice and if he didn't get to play, well so what.  What a difference a year makes.  He is on the 8th grade 'a' team and plays the whole game.  He has almost 6 ft. tall, but still skinny.  The coachs can depend on him and don't have to worry about him not passing and being unable to play.  We live in a small town and football is a big deal.  Not many of these kids are going to go on to play college ball, who cares. Twenty years from now, he will have hs football stories to tell.   If he wants to play, we will support him.  His mother was an athlete in school and is a screamer.  I try to be the good grandmother and keep my mouth shut. 
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sodapop
Reg. Feb 2005
Posted 2014-10-11 3:42 AM
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 It always amazes me how parents will themselves yell at their child or someone else's child in sports and allow a coach to do the same, but be fuming mad if their child's teacher or caregiver even uses a stern voice to correct their child's inappropriate behavior. Makes no sense.
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