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| I see Tuf Cooper and Timber Moore were in the top ten at a qualifier event in Ohio. I assume the same Tuf Cooper and Timber Moore, NFR Qualifiers. If they end up in the top ten at the end of the NFR, can they be qualifier contestants as well as the NFR exemptions at the American? Meaning can they compete twice for the 100K and the 1 million? .... or by competing as qualifiers are they disqualifying themselves as a top 10 NFR exemption in order to compete for the bigger purse? Here is the link to the list of the top ten of the most recent tie down qualifier in Ohio. It is a public page so you don't need facebook to view it.
https://www.facebook.com/RFDTVTheAMERICAN/photos/a.383784188414430.1073741828.377882705671245/585335284925985/?type=1&theater
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| sodapop - 2014-10-11 9:42 AM
I see Tuf Cooper and Timber Moore were in the top ten at a qualifier event in Ohio. I assume the same Tuf Cooper and Timber Moore, NFR Qualifiers. If they end up in the top ten at the end of the NFR, can they be qualifier contestants as well as the NFR exemptions at the American? Meaning can he compete twice for the 100K and the 1 million? .... or by competing as qualifiers are they disqualifying themselves as a top 10 NFR exemption in order to compete for the bigger purse? Here is the link to the list of the top ten of the most recent tie down qualifier in Ohio. It is a public page so you don't need facebook to view it.
https://www.facebook.com/RFDTVTheAMERICAN/photos/a.383784188414430.1073741828.377882705671245/585335284925985/?type=1&theater
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| jbhoot - 2014-10-11 9:57 AM sodapop - 2014-10-11 9:42 AM I see Tuf Cooper and Timber Moore were in the top ten at a qualifier event in Ohio. I assume the same Tuf Cooper and Timber Moore, NFR Qualifiers. If they end up in the top ten at the end of the NFR, can they be qualifier contestants as well as the NFR exemptions at the American? Meaning can he compete twice for the 100K and the 1 million? .... or by competing as qualifiers are they disqualifying themselves as a top 10 NFR exemption in order to compete for the bigger purse? Here is the link to the list of the top ten of the most recent tie down qualifier in Ohio. It is a public page so you don't need facebook to view it.
https://www.facebook.com/RFDTVTheAMERICAN/photos/a.383784188414430.1073741828.377882705671245/585335284925985/?type=1&theater Simple answer YES.
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R10) Contestants may receive two qualification spots to the Semi-Finals; however, a contestant my only receive one spot to THE AMERICAN |
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| NJJ - 2014-10-11 11:51 AM This is listed under the rules for the Calf Roping........
R10) Contestants may receive two qualification spots to the Semi-Finals; however, a contestant my only receive one spot to THE AMERICAN If a top 10 NFR qualifier makes it as an American qualifier through the semi-finals and such, then I assume they just move down the list to the next guy who finishes say number 11 at the NFR and invite him in the other's place. I guess there is no rule anywhere stating NFR qualifiers can't enter American jackpot qualifiers and compete as a qualifier and not an NFR exemption. It's a great deal no matter. I just like the idea of the American qualifiers vs. the top 10 NFR contestants basically and the American qualifiers not being one in the same as the top 10 NFR contestants. Not a big deal to me. I know financially it the American qualifiers stand to earn more at the one day event than an NFR exemption....or at least the way I understood it from last March. It is a great rodeo no matter how any qualifies through either a qualifier or exemption. Of course being top 10 at an American qualifier event is not a guarantee to the American just yet.
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | Here's another scenario...Andrea Cline was the BBR Champion and became qualified to the American but could only run for the $100,000. thru that qualification so she went and qualified through a qualifier so she could run for the million. Lots of funky rules..LOL |
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| Nevertooold - 2014-10-11 1:15 PM Here's another scenario...Andrea Cline was the BBR Champion and became qualified to the American but could only run for the $100,000. thru that qualification so she went and qualified through a qualifier so she could run for the million. Lots of funky rules..LOL I didn't think the BBR Champion got in as an exemption if that is what you mean. It's only NFR top 10 and any invited exemption then the the tops from the qualifiers who go through the American qualifier finals...... correct?
Did a BBR Champion get an exemption last year?
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | sodapop - 2014-10-11 1:25 PM Nevertooold - 2014-10-11 1:15 PM Here's another scenario...Andrea Cline was the BBR Champion and became qualified to the American but could only run for the $100,000. thru that qualification so she went and qualified through a qualifier so she could run for the million. Lots of funky rules..LOL I didn't think the BBR Champion got in as an exemption if that is what you mean. It's only NFR top 10 and any invited exemption then the the tops from the qualifiers who go through the American qualifier finals...... correct?
Did a BBR Champion get an exemption last year?
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| NJJ - 2014-10-11 3:40 PM
sodapop - 2014-10-11 1:25 PM Nevertooold - 2014-10-11 1:15 PM Here's another scenario...Andrea Cline was the BBR Champion and became qualified to the American but could only run for the $100,000. thru that qualification so she went and qualified through a qualifier so she could run for the million. Lots of funky rules..LOL I didn't think the BBR Champion got in as an exemption if that is what you mean. It's only NFR top 10 and any invited exemption then the the tops from the qualifiers who go through the American qualifier finals...... correct?
Did a BBR Champion get an exemption last year?
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| sodapop - 2014-10-11 8:52 PM NJJ - 2014-10-11 3:40 PM sodapop - 2014-10-11 1:25 PM Nevertooold - 2014-10-11 1:15 PM Here's another scenario...Andrea Cline was the BBR Champion and became qualified to the American but could only run for the $100,000. thru that qualification so she went and qualified through a qualifier so she could run for the million. Lots of funky rules..LOL I didn't think the BBR Champion got in as an exemption if that is what you mean. It's only NFR top 10 and any invited exemption then the the tops from the qualifiers who go through the American qualifier finals...... correct?
Did a BBR Champion get an exemption last year?
Who was the BBR champion? Was it Mark?
BBR Champion: Andrea Cline. BBR is Better Barrel Races |
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| rodeomom3 - 2014-10-11 8:56 PM sodapop - 2014-10-11 8:52 PM NJJ - 2014-10-11 3:40 PM sodapop - 2014-10-11 1:25 PM Nevertooold - 2014-10-11 1:15 PM Here's another scenario...Andrea Cline was the BBR Champion and became qualified to the American but could only run for the $100,000. thru that qualification so she went and qualified through a qualifier so she could run for the million. Lots of funky rules..LOL I didn't think the BBR Champion got in as an exemption if that is what you mean. It's only NFR top 10 and any invited exemption then the the tops from the qualifiers who go through the American qualifier finals...... correct?
Did a BBR Champion get an exemption last year? Who was the BBR champion? Was it Mark?
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| Southtxponygirl - 2014-10-11 8:59 PM So Andrea will be running then?
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | sodapop - 2014-10-11 9:06 PM rodeomom3 - 2014-10-11 8:56 PM sodapop - 2014-10-11 8:52 PM NJJ - 2014-10-11 3:40 PM sodapop - 2014-10-11 1:25 PM Nevertooold - 2014-10-11 1:15 PM Here's another scenario...Andrea Cline was the BBR Champion and became qualified to the American but could only run for the $100,000. thru that qualification so she went and qualified through a qualifier so she could run for the million. Lots of funky rules..LOL I didn't think the BBR Champion got in as an exemption if that is what you mean. It's only NFR top 10 and any invited exemption then the the tops from the qualifiers who go through the American qualifier finals...... correct?
Did a BBR Champion get an exemption last year?
Who was the BBR champion? Was it Mark? Yes I know what the BBR means. I just don't keep up with who wins it what year and when. I still think of the BBR Finals being in January each year, but I know it was moved to spring several years ago.. I thought it was in April now which would have been held after The American in March. So the BBR champion exemption would have been the BBR champion from the previous year. Unless the BBR Finals are held before The American or it is decided in another way.
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| NJJ - 2014-10-11 9:12 PM
sodapop - 2014-10-11 9:06 PM rodeomom3 - 2014-10-11 8:56 PM sodapop - 2014-10-11 8:52 PM NJJ - 2014-10-11 3:40 PM sodapop - 2014-10-11 1:25 PM Nevertooold - 2014-10-11 1:15 PM Here's another scenario...Andrea Cline was the BBR Champion and became qualified to the American but could only run for the $100,000. thru that qualification so she went and qualified through a qualifier so she could run for the million. Lots of funky rules..LOL I didn't think the BBR Champion got in as an exemption if that is what you mean. It's only NFR top 10 and any invited exemption then the the tops from the qualifiers who go through the American qualifier finals...... correct?
Did a BBR Champion get an exemption last year?
Who was the BBR champion? Was it Mark? Yes I know what the BBR means. I just don't keep up with who wins it what year and when. I still think of the BBR Finals being in January each year, but I know it was moved to spring several years ago.. I thought it was in April now which would have been held after The American in March. So the BBR champion exemption would have been the BBR champion from the previous year. Unless the BBR Finals are held before The American or it is decided in another way.
If so, that would make her the BBR World Champion exemption, but she is also trying to make it through the qualifiers. She has qualified for the semi-finals already. If she makes it through the qualifiers, then they would have to move on down the list for their BBR exemption. At this rate, no one will want to be an exemption. LOL |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | sodapop - 2014-10-11 9:11 PM Southtxponygirl - 2014-10-11 8:59 PM So Andrea will be running then? I guess if she is the most recent BBR Champion then yes she would be the BBR exemption. However, if she qualifies through a BBR American qualifier event as well, makes it though the semi finals and finals of the qualifiers, then she would compete as a qualifier and not as the BBR champion exemption. I would guess they would then give the BBR exemption to the reserve BBR champ. Unless of course the BBR reserve champ also makes it through the qualifier events. Then they would have to move down to 3rd place in the BBR World Champion race. LOL
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | sodapop - 2014-10-11 9:18 PM NJJ - 2014-10-11 9:12 PM sodapop - 2014-10-11 9:06 PM rodeomom3 - 2014-10-11 8:56 PM sodapop - 2014-10-11 8:52 PM NJJ - 2014-10-11 3:40 PM sodapop - 2014-10-11 1:25 PM Nevertooold - 2014-10-11 1:15 PM Here's another scenario...Andrea Cline was the BBR Champion and became qualified to the American but could only run for the $100,000. thru that qualification so she went and qualified through a qualifier so she could run for the million. Lots of funky rules..LOL I didn't think the BBR Champion got in as an exemption if that is what you mean. It's only NFR top 10 and any invited exemption then the the tops from the qualifiers who go through the American qualifier finals...... correct?
Did a BBR Champion get an exemption last year?
Who was the BBR champion? Was it Mark? Yes I know what the BBR means. I just don't keep up with who wins it what year and when. I still think of the BBR Finals being in January each year, but I know it was moved to spring several years ago.. I thought it was in April now which would have been held after The American in March. So the BBR champion exemption would have been the BBR champion from the previous year. Unless the BBR Finals are held before The American or it is decided in another way. If so, that would make her the BBR World Champion exemption, but she is also trying to make it through the qualifiers. She has qualified for the semi-finals already. If she makes it through the qualifiers, then they would have to move on down the list for their BBR exemption. At this rate, no one will want to be an exemption. LOL
No............as long as it is not the same horse that won her the championship.....she can qualify another run on another horse.
R10) The BBR World Champion, the College National Finals Champion and the High School National Finals Champion may compete in a qualification race in an attempt secure a 2nd Semi-Finals Qualification. In doing so they may not compete at the Qualification race on the same horse that carried them to their association championship title.
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| NJJ - 2014-10-11 10:02 PM sodapop - 2014-10-11 9:18 PM NJJ - 2014-10-11 9:12 PM sodapop - 2014-10-11 9:06 PM rodeomom3 - 2014-10-11 8:56 PM sodapop - 2014-10-11 8:52 PM NJJ - 2014-10-11 3:40 PM sodapop - 2014-10-11 1:25 PM Nevertooold - 2014-10-11 1:15 PM Here's another scenario...Andrea Cline was the BBR Champion and became qualified to the American but could only run for the $100,000. thru that qualification so she went and qualified through a qualifier so she could run for the million. Lots of funky rules..LOL I didn't think the BBR Champion got in as an exemption if that is what you mean. It's only NFR top 10 and any invited exemption then the the tops from the qualifiers who go through the American qualifier finals...... correct?
Did a BBR Champion get an exemption last year?
Who was the BBR champion? Was it Mark? Yes I know what the BBR means. I just don't keep up with who wins it what year and when. I still think of the BBR Finals being in January each year, but I know it was moved to spring several years ago.. I thought it was in April now which would have been held after The American in March. So the BBR champion exemption would have been the BBR champion from the previous year. Unless the BBR Finals are held before The American or it is decided in another way. If so, that would make her the BBR World Champion exemption, but she is also trying to make it through the qualifiers. She has qualified for the semi-finals already. If she makes it through the qualifiers, then they would have to move on down the list for their BBR exemption. At this rate, no one will want to be an exemption. LOL
R10 ) The BBR World Champion, the College National Finals Champion and the High School National Finals Champion may compete in a qualification race in an attempt secure a 2nd Semi-Finals Qualification. In doing so they may not compete at the Qualification race on the same horse that carried them to their association championship title.
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Location: A roping pen near you!! | If you go to the results on the qualifiers for the American in Tie-Down on the Ultimate Calf Roping site Tuff's name is not on there they went down to the 11th place guy Kyle Dutton. I'll try to post it I hope it works.
Columbus, OH October 8 , 2014 Top 10 Average Winners – AMERICAN Qualifiers 1.Timber Moore 2.Trent Creager 3.Dillon Holder 4.Cody McCartney 5.Cole Wilson 6.CR Bradley 7.Jeremy Kempker 8.Rob Pierce 9.Trenton Johnson 10.Kyle Dutton |
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| turnum - 2014-10-12 7:36 AM
If you go to the results on the qualifiers for the American in Tie-Down on the Ultimate Calf Roping site Tuff's name is not on there they went down to the 11th place guy Kyle Dutton. I'll try to post it I hope it works. Columbus, OH October 8 , 2014 Top 10 Average Winners – AMERICAN Qualifiers 1.Timber Moore 2.Trent Creager 3.Dillon Holder 4.Cody McCartney 5.Cole Wilson 6.CR Bradley 7.Jeremy Kempker 8.Rob Pierce 9.Trenton Johnson 10.Kyle Dutton
That's interesting. On Tuf's facebook fan page he posts about winning The American Qualifier on a horse trained by C.R. Bradley. |
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| CrossCreek - 2014-10-11 10:05 PM
ok, so the NHSRA or collegiate champion cannot run on the same horse that they won their championship on??? What kind of a stupid rule is THAT??
No. It's saying that they can't enter a qualifier on that horse because it's already in. They would have to run a different horse if they entered a qualifier. |
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | brlracerchick - 2014-10-12 8:30 AM I know they said at the American yesterday that Samantha Flannery had already won a Qualifier so she was just running for $$
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| sodapop - 2014-10-11 9:06 PM rodeomom3 - 2014-10-11 8:56 PM sodapop - 2014-10-11 8:52 PM NJJ - 2014-10-11 3:40 PM sodapop - 2014-10-11 1:25 PM Nevertooold - 2014-10-11 1:15 PM Here's another scenario...Andrea Cline was the BBR Champion and became qualified to the American but could only run for the $100,000. thru that qualification so she went and qualified through a qualifier so she could run for the million. Lots of funky rules..LOL I didn't think the BBR Champion got in as an exemption if that is what you mean. It's only NFR top 10 and any invited exemption then the the tops from the qualifiers who go through the American qualifier finals...... correct?
Did a BBR Champion get an exemption last year? Who was the BBR champion? Was it Mark? Yes I know what the BBR means. I just don't keep up with who wins it what year and when. I still think of the BBR Finals being in January each year, but I know it was moved to spring several years ago.. I thought it was in April now which would have been held after The American in March. So the BBR champion exemption would have been the BBR champion from the previous year. Unless the BBR Finals are held before The American or it is decided in another way.
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | Southtxponygirl - 2014-10-12 10:39 AM I am trying to keep up with all the rules that you guys are talking about, and now I'm really REALLY confused, so instead of trying to understand, I think I will just stick to watching the barrel runs. LOL My forehead cant take this anymore,,,
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Location: Nebraska | CYA Ranch - 2014-10-12 9:44 AM brlracerchick - 2014-10-12 8:30 AM I know they said at the American yesterday that Samantha Flannery had already won a Qualifier so she was just running for $$ 2 qualifiers is the limit then? She won 2 in Verndale. She's got nice horses.
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Location: Stuck in a cubicle having tropical thoughts | I would assume that Tuf and Timber entered the qualifier event because being qualified for the NFR does not mean they will end up top ten after the NFR is over.
As example: Last year Fallon Taylor finished 11th in WPRA standings after the NFR was over. By that time there was only one qualifier event left. She competed there and also finished 11th so she didn't get to go to the semi-finals. So the typical NFR people are still running at the qualifier events in case they don't finish in the top ten for year end standings and get into The American. If they are top ten after the NFR, then they compete at the NFR in their NFR spot and there is no reason for them to have to run at the semi finals to try to get in. But if they ar 11th-15th when the NFR is over, they still have to get to the American via the semi-finals and there are not a lot of qualifier events left when the NFR is over.
The BBR world champion does not get an exemption to the American. They get a spot in the semifinals. Jackie Ganter is the 2014 BBR WOrld Champ so she automatically gets a spot at the semifinals without competing in a qualifier. Lindsey McLeod also earned her spot to the semifinals by winning the NHSRA barrel racing championship. This does not mean either girl gets a spot at The American. It means they get a spot in the semi-finals without having to be top ten at a qualifer event. |
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Location: A roping pen near you!! | I talked to Kyle Dutton yesterday and he said Tuff is already going to the American because he is in the top ten so he won't be in a qualifier spot. So that moved Kyle up from 11th to 10th so he made it as a American qualifier. |
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Location: san antonio texas | sodapop - 2014-10-11 9:18 PM NJJ - 2014-10-11 9:12 PM sodapop - 2014-10-11 9:06 PM rodeomom3 - 2014-10-11 8:56 PM sodapop - 2014-10-11 8:52 PM NJJ - 2014-10-11 3:40 PM sodapop - 2014-10-11 1:25 PM Nevertooold - 2014-10-11 1:15 PM Here's another scenario...Andrea Cline was the BBR Champion and became qualified to the American but could only run for the $100,000. thru that qualification so she went and qualified through a qualifier so she could run for the million. Lots of funky rules..LOL I didn't think the BBR Champion got in as an exemption if that is what you mean. It's only NFR top 10 and any invited exemption then the the tops from the qualifiers who go through the American qualifier finals...... correct?
Did a BBR Champion get an exemption last year?
Who was the BBR champion? Was it Mark? Yes I know what the BBR means. I just don't keep up with who wins it what year and when. I still think of the BBR Finals being in January each year, but I know it was moved to spring several years ago.. I thought it was in April now which would have been held after The American in March. So the BBR champion exemption would have been the BBR champion from the previous year. Unless the BBR Finals are held before The American or it is decided in another way. If so, that would make her the BBR World Champion exemption, but she is also trying to make it through the qualifiers. She has qualified for the semi-finals already. If she makes it through the qualifiers, then they would have to move on down the list for their BBR exemption. At this rate, no one will want to be an exemption. LOL
I may be able to clear up some confusion. I was the 2013 BBR Champion and as such yes I did recieve an exemption. As that exemption I was only eligible for the $100,000 just like the NFR qualifiers. I won the BBR that year on Streak Sense and since everyone else was able to qualify 2 horses I decided to run Moses at a qualifier. So I did and qualified. It wasn't until afterwards that I found out because I ran in a qualifier I lost that exemption status. It was almost a punishment to be the BBR qualifier. Jackie Ganter is the 2014 BBR Champion so she automatically gets an exemption. This year however they did change the rule so she can enter a qualifier and get qualified WITHOUT a penalty like I did. I guess my year was the guinea pig year... LOL. And NO they do not move down the list.... so if Jackie for whatever reason lost her BBR exemption status... I am the Reserve Champ for 2014 and they would NOT move down the list. |
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| carlos - 2014-10-13 6:50 AM sodapop - 2014-10-11 9:18 PM NJJ - 2014-10-11 9:12 PM sodapop - 2014-10-11 9:06 PM rodeomom3 - 2014-10-11 8:56 PM sodapop - 2014-10-11 8:52 PM NJJ - 2014-10-11 3:40 PM sodapop - 2014-10-11 1:25 PM Nevertooold - 2014-10-11 1:15 PM Here's another scenario...Andrea Cline was the BBR Champion and became qualified to the American but could only run for the $100,000. thru that qualification so she went and qualified through a qualifier so she could run for the million. Lots of funky rules..LOL I didn't think the BBR Champion got in as an exemption if that is what you mean. It's only NFR top 10 and any invited exemption then the the tops from the qualifiers who go through the American qualifier finals...... correct?
Did a BBR Champion get an exemption last year?
Who was the BBR champion? Was it Mark? Yes I know what the BBR means. I just don't keep up with who wins it what year and when. I still think of the BBR Finals being in January each year, but I know it was moved to spring several years ago.. I thought it was in April now which would have been held after The American in March. So the BBR champion exemption would have been the BBR champion from the previous year. Unless the BBR Finals are held before The American or it is decided in another way. If so, that would make her the BBR World Champion exemption, but she is also trying to make it through the qualifiers. She has qualified for the semi-finals already. If she makes it through the qualifiers, then they would have to move on down the list for their BBR exemption. At this rate, no one will want to be an exemption. LOL
Thanks carlos! This is some confusing stuff. Since the rules will be changing each year it will continue to be confusing I think. LOL |
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | MS2011 - 2014-10-14 8:23 AM It might take a little while to get all the kinks worked out and get the rules out there enough that we all understand them. This is the best thing to happen to rodeo. I LOVE it.
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Location: Louisiana | Guys, all of the rules are on the website and have been since this thing was first announced last year. I don't get the confusion...
I love this concept and will be in Ft. Worth to watch the semifinals! We went to Mesquite last year, I'm excited to go to Ft. Worth this year-much more to do!
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Location: The edge of no where | dashnlotti - 2014-10-14 4:27 PM Guys, all of the rules are on the website and have been since this thing was first announced last year. I don't get the confusion...
I love this concept and will be in Ft. Worth to watch the semifinals! We went to Mesquite last year, I'm excited to go to Ft. Worth this year-much more to do!
I like Northside... We're planning to go watch this year. I really want to go watch the barrel slack as well. Last year I saw lots of whining that Mesquite wasn't very full of spectators, I bet there's not an empty seat at Northside. (really I'm just excited that its' an easy drive from my casa!)
I'm planning to start running there on wknds and I'm betting it will get tons of entries and be super tough till spring.
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| dashnlotti - 2014-10-14 4:27 PM Guys, all of the rules are on the website and have been since this thing was first announced last year. I don't get the confusion...
I love this concept and will be in Ft. Worth to watch the semifinals! We went to Mesquite last year, I'm excited to go to Ft. Worth this year-much more to do!
My confusion is probably because I didn't read the rules this year. I tried to disect them last year, but didn't think there would be many changes from last year. I don't remember anything in the rules from last year regarding whether a top 10 NFR competitor could also make it through the qualifier route as well. Doesn't mean it wasn't in the rules last year, but just means I don't remember it. I'm still bummed the top 10 NFR bull riders (or any of them at all since the other NFR events do) don't get the exemptions for the 100K. I know it is because of the PBR connection, but they aren't taking the top 10 from the BBR Finals because they are taking the top 10 from the NFR barrel racing. So why the PBR? The saddle bronc and bareback qualifiers are sanctioned by that Roughstock association, but the top 10 from the NFR still get the exemption, correct? So why not the same for the bull riding? Is there anything in the rules about that? LOL j/k
Last year we spent a lot of time on here figuring the payout situation. It made for lots of fun and confusion conversation. LOL
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Location: Louisiana | sodapop - 2014-10-14 10:30 PM dashnlotti - 2014-10-14 4:27 PM Guys, all of the rules are on the website and have been since this thing was first announced last year. I don't get the confusion...
I love this concept and will be in Ft. Worth to watch the semifinals! We went to Mesquite last year, I'm excited to go to Ft. Worth this year-much more to do!
My confusion is probably because I didn't read the rules this year. I tried to disect them last year, but didn't think there would be many changes from last year. I don't remember anything in the rules from last year regarding whether a top 10 NFR competitor could also make it through the qualifier route as well. Doesn't mean it wasn't in the rules last year, but just means I don't remember it. I'm still bummed the top 10 NFR bull riders (or any of them at all since the other NFR events do) don't get the exemptions for the 100K. I know it is because of the PBR connection, but they aren't taking the top 10 from the BBR Finals because they are taking the top 10 from the NFR barrel racing. So why the PBR? The saddle bronc and bareback qualifiers are sanctioned by that Roughstock association, but the top 10 from the NFR still get the exemption, correct? So why not the same for the bull riding? Is there anything in the rules about that? LOL j/k
Last year we spent a lot of time on here figuring the payout situation. It made for lots of fun and confusion conversation. LOL
If I remember correctly, the guy behind the concept of The American, Randy Bernard, is also the former CEO of the PBR, so that may explain that.
Unless it changed since last year, here is the rule regarding top 10 post NFR...
They can take the exemption, and go straight to Cowboy Stadium to compete for $100,000.
OR, they can qualify and go to the semifinals. If they lose out at the semifinals, thats's it, they're done. If they go through the semis and make it to Cowboy Stadium, they are competing for $1,000,000.
That said, many guys qualified last year for the semis before the NFR in case they didn't end up top 10, remember 15 go to the NFR, so an NFR qualification isn't a guaranteed spot in Arlington.
I THINK they can take the exemption after the NFR is over, and they take the next person from that particular qualifier to the semis.
That's how I remember reading it from a year ago!
Does anyone know the exact dates of the semifinals? I asked a couple weeks ago but never made it back to see if it was answered.
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | dashnlotti - 2014-10-14 10:49
Does anyone know the exact dates of the semifinals? I asked a couple weeks ago but never made it back to see if it was answered.
I think this is huge mistake.....If they ever want to make this rodeo a "destination" point for spectators, they will have to quit having it on two separate week-ends with nothing in between.....
THE AMERICAN SEMI-FINALS will be at the Cowtown Coliseum in the Fort Worth Stockyards on February 20-22, 2015. THE AMERICAN is on March 1, 2015 at the AT&T Arena.
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| NJJ - 2014-10-15 8:17 AM
dashnlotti - 2014-10-14 10:49
Does anyone know the exact dates of the semifinals? I asked a couple weeks ago but never made it back to see if it was answered.
I think this is huge mistake.....If they ever want to make this rodeo a "destination" point for spectators, they will have to quit having it on two separate week-ends with nothing in between.....
THE AMERICAN SEMI-FINALS will be at the Cowtown Coliseum in the Fort Worth Stockyards on February 20-22, 2015. THE AMERICAN is on March 1, 2015 at the AT&T Arena.
The PATRIOT will be in between the semis and the AMERICAN this year! |
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | CYA Ranch - 2014-10-15 10:05 AM I'm too lazy to Google. What is the Patriot.
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | LRQHS - 2014-10-15 10:06 AM CYA Ranch - 2014-10-15 10:05 AM I'm too lazy to Google. What is the Patriot. I know, but I'm not telling you :)
oH, OK, I'll tell you. It's a very good movie starring Mel Gibson and the late Heath Ledger. You should watch it. |
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| dashnlotti - 2014-10-14 4:27 PM Guys, all of the rules are on the website and have been since this thing was first announced last year. I don't get the confusion...
I love this concept and will be in Ft. Worth to watch the semifinals! We went to Mesquite last year, I'm excited to go to Ft. Worth this year-much more to do!
It makes for good conversation here :) |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | LRQHS - 2014-10-15 10:10 AM LRQHS - 2014-10-15 10:06 AM CYA Ranch - 2014-10-15 10:05 AM I'm too lazy to Google. What is the Patriot. I know, but I'm not telling you :)
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Location: Louisiana | NJJ - 2014-10-15 8:17 AM dashnlotti - 2014-10-14 10:49
Does anyone know the exact dates of the semifinals? I asked a couple weeks ago but never made it back to see if it was answered.
I think this is huge mistake.....If they ever want to make this rodeo a "destination" point for spectators, they will have to quit having it on two separate week-ends with nothing in between.....
THE AMERICAN SEMI-FINALS will be at the Cowtown Coliseum in the Fort Worth Stockyards on February 20-22, 2015. THE AMERICAN is on March 1, 2015 at the AT&T Arena.
That's why we go to the semifinals and not the big one. First, it's MUCH cheaper to get good seats. Plus it also guarantees we get to see the people we know compete. Hopefully we also get to see a couple on TV this year, but it was still pretty cool watching everyone we know in Mesquite. I think Ft. Worth will draw a better crowd than Mesquite did, we were very surprised at the lack of spectators last year. I think a larger shopping area and more daytime activities would also draw more people. Of course it was the first year, and also somewhat of an experiment. I think it will only continue to grow. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | CYA Ranch - 2014-10-15 10:59 AM LRQHS - 2014-10-15 10:06 AM CYA Ranch - 2014-10-15 10:05 AM I'm too lazy to Google. What is the Patriot. I know, but I'm not telling you :)
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| astreakinchic - 2014-10-16 12:52 PM
Can someone list ALL qualifiers and exemptions please?
All of that info is on their facebook page. Google "RFDTV The American Facebook". It is a public Facebook page so you don't have to have Facebook to view it. You can follow the link I posted in my original post here on this thread. Also the RFDTV American website has info too....and links to info. |
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Location: Louisiana | Rausch_Jessica - 2014-10-15 2:20 PM Does anyone know if the semi-finals in Fort Worth will be televised?
It was last year so I'm sure it will be. :) |
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Location: Where I am happiest | dashnlotti - 2014-10-15 12:36 PM NJJ - 2014-10-15 8:17 AM dashnlotti - 2014-10-14 10:49
Does anyone know the exact dates of the semifinals? I asked a couple weeks ago but never made it back to see if it was answered.
I think this is huge mistake.....If they ever want to make this rodeo a "destination" point for spectators, they will have to quit having it on two separate week-ends with nothing in between.....
THE AMERICAN SEMI-FINALS will be at the Cowtown Coliseum in the Fort Worth Stockyards on February 20-22, 2015. THE AMERICAN is on March 1, 2015 at the AT&T Arena.
I agree.
I also wish it was one week apart instead of 2. More people would come to both if it were. They really have the best venue for contestants AND spectators. Now they just need to tweek it to cater to the spectators more to draw them in.Make it easier to go to both, make it only 1 week apart and fill the week in between. I would much rather go watch The American, both semi's and finals over The NFR, but they almost make it hard for the spectator....yet, look at how many go to the NFR and the rodeo is almost secendary on the "Things to do" list. |
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Location: Colorado plains standing on a goat head! | ThreeCorners - 2014-10-17 6:04 AM dashnlotti - 2014-10-15 12:36 PM NJJ - 2014-10-15 8:17 AM dashnlotti - 2014-10-14 10:49
Does anyone know the exact dates of the semifinals? I asked a couple weeks ago but never made it back to see if it was answered.
I think this is huge mistake.....If they ever want to make this rodeo a "destination" point for spectators, they will have to quit having it on two separate week-ends with nothing in between.....
THE AMERICAN SEMI-FINALS will be at the Cowtown Coliseum in the Fort Worth Stockyards on February 20-22, 2015. THE AMERICAN is on March 1, 2015 at the AT&T Arena.
I also wish it was one week apart instead of 2. More people would come to both if it were. They really have the best venue for contestants AND spectators. Now they just need to tweek it to cater to the spectators more to draw them in.Make it easier to go to both, make it only 1 week apart and fill the week in between. I would much rather go watch The American, both semi's and finals over The NFR, but they almost make it hard for the spectator....yet, look at how many go to the NFR and the rodeo is almost secendary on the "Things to do" list.
Edited for spelling, aargh.
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Location: Where I am happiest | paysonw - 2014-10-17 4:23 PM ThreeCorners - 2014-10-17 6:04 AM dashnlotti - 2014-10-15 12:36 PM NJJ - 2014-10-15 8:17 AM dashnlotti - 2014-10-14 10:49
Does anyone know the exact dates of the semifinals? I asked a couple weeks ago but never made it back to see if it was answered.
I think this is huge mistake.....If they ever want to make this rodeo a "destination" point for spectators, they will have to quit having it on two separate week-ends with nothing in between.....
THE AMERICAN SEMI-FINALS will be at the Cowtown Coliseum in the Fort Worth Stockyards on February 20-22, 2015. THE AMERICAN is on March 1, 2015 at the AT&T Arena.
I also wish it was one week apart instead of 2. More people would come to both if it were. They really have the best venue for contestants AND spectators. Now they just need to tweek it to cater to the spectators more to draw them in.Make it easier to go to both, make it only 1 week apart and fill the week in between. I would much rather go watch The American, both semi's and finals over The NFR, but they almost make it hard for the spectator....yet, look at how many go to the NFR and the rodeo is almost secendary on the "Things to do" list.
Edited for spelling, aargh.
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| Is Randy Bernard still involved with RFDTV and The American?
I read he is the President and CEO of RMG Events. RMG Events is owned by the owner of RFDTV. It says RMG Events will be involved with The American.
Then I read that Randy Bernard is the CEO of GhostTunes which is where Garth Brook's music will be exculsively be sold for download.
How can he do both unless GhostTunes is somehow connected with RMG Events or something? One article said he spent up to 18 hours a day getting ready for the launch of GhostTunes. Man, how can a person work that many hours on that, also be the CEO and Pres of RMG Events while planning The American and all it incudes, any other responsibilites that come with the job, and have a family?
That is one busy guy.
http://www.omaha.com/money/rfd-tv-rural-media-group-keep-wary-eye-on-mergers/article_bf8bd8e8-2943-11e4-8ee1-0017a43b2370.html
http://www.rodeocountryradio.com/q-a-with-randy-bernard-ceo-ghosttunes/
http://www.musicrow.com/2014/09/garth-brooks-debuts-ghosttunes-music-service/
http://www.rodeocountryradio.com/randy-bernard-joins-garth-brooks-at-ghosttunes/
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Location: Washington. (The DRY side.) | I haven't read all posts so maybe this had already been asked: If a rider can qualify twice, but it must be on different horses, WHY is it Ok for multiple riders to qualify on the SAME horse?? (Different rider, same horse, different qualifier event) |
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| RacingQH - 2014-10-20 8:56 AM I haven't read all posts so maybe this had already been asked: If a rider can qualify twice, but it must be on different horses, WHY is it Ok for multiple riders to qualify on the SAME horse?? (Different rider, same horse, different qualifier event) Yeah, I wonder what they will do if they all draw up really close to each other or all make the finals? Poor horse! Or can they change horses now that they are qualified... that doesn't seem right either.
Seems like I read one horse qualified 3 different people...don't know if this is who you are talking about...I can't even remember the horse's name or the people's name...
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Location: In The Land of Cotton | RacingQH - 2014-10-20 9:56 AM I haven't read all posts so maybe this had already been asked: If a rider can qualify twice, but it must be on different horses, WHY is it Ok for multiple riders to qualify on the SAME horse?? (Different rider, same horse, different qualifier event)
I saw that too. I am wondering, must they use the same horse that they qualify on? Say rider 1 qualifies on horse A. Rider 2 qualifies on horse A. Rider 3 qualifies on Horse A.
So Horse A runs 3 times - or do all three riders ride a horse other then horse A.
I am thinking that is the way it is - you qualify on who you want, but run in the end on who you want, which doesn't necessarily have to be Horse A.
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Location: Broxton, Ga | It is the rider that qualifies..........so A horse can be used to qualify RIDERS........but A horse can only be ridden by ONE rider at semi and finals............is what I understand......... |
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Location: Broxton, Ga | TyE - 2014-10-19 2:31 PM RacingQH - 2014-10-20 8:56 AM I haven't read all posts so maybe this had already been asked: If a rider can qualify twice, but it must be on different horses, WHY is it Ok for multiple riders to qualify on the SAME horse?? (Different rider, same horse, different qualifier event) Yeah, I wonder what they will do if they all draw up really close to each other or all make the finals? Poor horse! Or can they change horses now that they are qualified... that doesn't seem right either.
Seems like I read one horse qualified 3 different people...don't know if this is who you are talking about...I can't even remember the horse's name or the people's name...
I do know one horse has qualified 2............aka brother sister............and yes that horse is really good........ |
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Location: In The Land of Cotton | CJE - 2014-10-20 3:43 PM TyE - 2014-10-19 2:31 PM RacingQH - 2014-10-20 8:56 AM I haven't read all posts so maybe this had already been asked: If a rider can qualify twice, but it must be on different horses, WHY is it Ok for multiple riders to qualify on the SAME horse?? (Different rider, same horse, different qualifier event) Yeah, I wonder what they will do if they all draw up really close to each other or all make the finals? Poor horse! Or can they change horses now that they are qualified... that doesn't seem right either.
Seems like I read one horse qualified 3 different people...don't know if this is who you are talking about...I can't even remember the horse's name or the people's name...
There was one this morning that did qualify 3 different people. I guess those who get to go, will get offers from people offering up their horses.
Interesting rule. While I agree with immediate family members, I would have to think on others being able to do it.
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Location: The edge of no where | CJE - 2014-10-20 2:38 PM It is the rider that qualifies..........so A horse can be used to qualify RIDERS........but A horse can only be ridden by ONE rider at semi and finals............is what I understand.........
^^^This is how I understand it as well. I seriously doubt there will be anyone attempting to run the same horse more than once in the semis, it will just be too tough. |
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| MS2011 - 2014-10-20 3:00 PM CJE - 2014-10-20 2:38 PM It is the rider that qualifies..........so A horse can be used to qualify RIDERS........but A horse can only be ridden by ONE rider at semi and finals............is what I understand......... ^^^This is how I understand it as well. I seriously doubt there will be anyone attempting to run the same horse more than once in the semis, it will just be too tough.
I thought I read that a rider that qualifies more than one time cannot qualify on the same horse, so it seems strange that one horse could qualify more than one rider. Kinda like why couldn't a person qualify twice on the same horse...same concept to me... |
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Location: Broxton, Ga | MS2011 - 2014-10-19 4:00 PM CJE - 2014-10-20 2:38 PM It is the rider that qualifies..........so A horse can be used to qualify RIDERS........but A horse can only be ridden by ONE rider at semi and finals............is what I understand......... ^^^This is how I understand it as well. I seriously doubt there will be anyone attempting to run the same horse more than once in the semis, it will just be too tough.
I'm sure they will be riding the other horses that did not qualify..............and not riding the same horse in a performance........ |
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