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 Coyote Country Queen
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| Sometime between Wednesday night and this morning my mare has developed a large full udder. This mare is not bred. But her udder is full like a mare that is close to foaling. She was ultrasounded in late February or early March because she has issues with an enlarged ovary. She has been on Regumate since March. Put a phone call in to the vet. He thinks she may just be having a hormonal issue because of the Regumate and ovary problems. This mare looks a little sucked in in the flanks and has a low temperature. She does not seem uncomfortable, although she would not let me mess with her udder. This is a younger mare that has never carried a foal. Any thoughts about what could be causing this or what I should do to treat her? |
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Coyote Country Queen
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| Nobody?! I really do have the strangest things happen at our place. I'll be taking her to the vet Monday morning since it's not really an emergency, not going to call the vets in on the weekend. Just looking for some ideas about a cause and how to get the bag down. My vet said to pull the regumate. He also said I could try lasix and dex to help shrink the bag down.
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | I read your thread about your mare, but just dont have any input, hope that shes not running a fever, the only thought that crossed my mine is that I hope she dont get an infection  |
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| My first thought was infection, so I took her temp and she is normal.
I didn't figure I'd get a whole lot of response being a Saturday and it being an odd thing, but I was hoping it wasn't so strange that at least someone had experienced it! |
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A Somebody to Everybody
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Have you felt the bag to see if its hot to the touch and if so is it really tight? Poor mare.  |
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Coyote Country Queen
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| It's really tight. I tried to get my hands on it and really get a good feel, but she was wanting to kick me so I backed off. It felt warm, but it was 40 degrees outside so I'm sure anything felt warm on my hands. I hosed this mare's legs Wednesday evening and she looked normal. It was so rainy the past couple of days so I could have missed it, but I really think it got big overnight. If she was acting uncomfortable at all I'd have her at the vet, but she seems totally normal. |
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A Somebody to Everybody
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Have you tryed to google, and see what you find? I googled and put in Udder on non Pregnant mare and a few things can up, ever another talk forum talking about this.. |
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Location: So. California | It sounds like she has an infection, call your vet for an appointment and get some meds for the poor mare. |
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Coyote Country Queen
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| I'll try google. Looked on thehorse.com but couldn't get any results about non-pregnant mares.
This mare will be at the vet Monday morning. Talked to my vet this morning and he did not seem concerned about infection and did not suggest I come in until Monday. |
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| Has she been exposed at all this year to a stallion (or a gelding that might not be a total gelding ;))?
This is pretty strange. We have never had this kind of problem with Regumate before, but we stopped using it because we started with the implants due to simplicity. First thought would be infection, but since theres no fever, that pretty much rules that out. hmmm  |
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Coyote Country Queen
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| If she's been turned out it's been with mares only. She does have a history of ovary issues, and that's why my vet thought it was related to that in combination with the regumate. Believe me, I panicked when I saw it this morning! I immediately started running through my mind when she might have been with something that could have bred her. But she's been ultrasounded multiple times this year, and she is definitely not big like she might be bred.
I'll update in Monday after my vet checks her. I am serious when I say we have the strangest things happen at our place. Vets should pay us for all of the interesting things they get to see! |
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| Also, can you tell me more about the implants? My husband has a mare that was doing okay on regumate. But when he has her at work it is too difficult to give it to her regularly. He's looking into spaying, but maybe we could try an implant first. |
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| They are pretty new in my area, actually my mare was the first my vet had ever done. But they are just hormone pellets that are placed under the skin on their neck, and they dissolve, regulated hormones for '6months' is what the package says. We haven't had Dee done in almost a year and we can still feel her's and it still works as far as we can tell. It was a night and day difference though. She was not nearly as moody. She had a bad habit of being fine one run, then blowing up and refusing the next, and these stopped that.
They are not very pretty to look at, as its 3 knots on their neck. We put it so her mane covers them, and once the hair grows back where they shave it, then you really have to be looking to see them. We give her a week off once we get them because they get really stiff in the neck (the applicater holes have to be sewn up, so they aren't little spots).
Actually I think I have a picture of them right after they were done.
ETA: The mares still go in heat, and can still get pregnant, but you just don't get the mood swings accompanied with it.
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A Somebody to Everybody
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | FlyingHigh1454 - 2014-10-11 10:10 PM
They are pretty new in my area, actually my mare was the first my vet had ever done. But they are just hormone pellets that are placed under the skin on their neck, and they dissolve, regulated hormones for '6months' is what the package says. We haven't had Dee done in almost a year and we can still feel her's and it still works as far as we can tell. It was a night and day difference though. She was not nearly as moody. She had a bad habit of being fine one run, then blowing up and refusing the next, and these stopped that.
They are not very pretty to look at, as its 3 knots on their neck. We put it so her mane covers them, and once the hair grows back where they shave it, then you really have to be looking to see them. We give her a week off once we get them because they get really stiff in the neck (the applicater holes have to be sewn up, so they aren't little spots).
Actually I think I have a picture of them right after they were done.
ETA: The mares still go in heat, and can still get pregnant, but you just don't get the mood swings accompanied with it.
That really looks painful |
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| They lightly sedated her, then completely locally sedate the spots. She is completely fine after 5-7 days. We got them done 2 weeks before North American and she was completely fine to run by then and had no problems turning. Its harder to watch than it is for her, she doesn't even flinch when they do it.
ETA: The first one bled more than usual because the gun misfired, so they had to redo it and it just got more aggravated than the other two spots.
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | FlyingHigh1454 - 2014-10-11 10:30 PM They lightly sedated her, then completely locally sedate the spots. She is completely fine after 5-7 days. We got them done 2 weeks before North American and she was completely fine to run by then and had no problems turning. Its harder to watch than it is for her, she doesn't even flinch when they do it. ETA: The first one bled more than usual because the gun misfired, so they had to redo it and it just got more aggravated than the other two spots.
I have never done inplants, so this looked a bit ugley, glad that they get to feeling normal after a few days.  |
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Location: delaWHERE? | We had a mare that started out with what looked like a fuller udder and it eventually got rock hard and was mastitis. She never got a fever or any other signs of infection or sickness.
My advice would be to grab a second person, twitch the mare, and milk her into a bucket. See the consistency and/or color. Even if it is just full of milk, it can be incredibly painful. Once you start to relieve the pressure and pain, she will be much less resistant to the milking. |
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| We have broodmare that has NOT been bred in the last 3 yrs that gets a pretty full bag every spring and acts completely normal. |
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| I have a mare that bags up. She usually does it at the same time of year. The first time I thought it was pigeon fever as a mare in this area had to be put done because of it. Vet assured me that was not what it was. (Yes, I am aware that pigeon fever affects the chest ) I put mine on crushed raspberry leaves for about a month before and a month after the time that she usually bags up and seems to eliminate the problem. |
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Coyote Country Queen
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| Thank you all for sharing your info and experiences. This morning her udder has shrunk down quite a bit. She looks like she feels great. She was running around like a mad woman this morning bucking and playing. I went ahead and took her off of regumate so we'll see if that makes a difference. |
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Location: OK | I had this in a mare I loaned to a friend. She kept bagging and being kinda moody. Sucked in in the flanks. Turned out my friend tried to wean a colt from another mare and put him across a wire fence from my mare, who let him suck through the fence and I assume this caused a hormonal imbalance in her. She also has some ovary trouble and has before had a terrible UTI during all this trouble.
We wound up suturing her up some. because of her age, she was sort of open back there and kept getting UTIs because of that, so we sutured it, open enough that she could pee but closed enough that it stayed clean. Then, we took her away from any geldings, gave her some hormones, and she shaped right up. |
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Location: Finally horseback again.... | I had an open mare get mastitis last year.
It can happen more than you would think according to my vet.
I would treat her just in case. |
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