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http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/12/health/ebola/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
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Location: wherever my daughter's running | Waking up to this unsettling news. Prayers for this individual, all of the individuals who came in contact with the two people with Ebola once symptoms were present, and for our country. It only takes a spark to get the fire going.
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Location: SE Louisiana | Itsme - 2014-10-12 8:30 AM
I say we secure the texas borders and give it back to mexico...
Smart!!! Trade one state border for borders with NM OK AR and LA.. |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | Itsme - 2014-10-12 8:30 AM I say we secure the texas borders and give it back to mexico...
Huh????? The disease didn't originate or "travel" to the U.S. from Mexico.......Africa !!!! |
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Location: wherever my daughter's running | NJJ - 2014-10-12 9:38 AM
Itsme - 2014-10-12 8:30 AM I say we secure the texas borders and give it back to mexico...
Huh????? The disease didn't originate or "travel" to the U.S. from Mexico.......Africa !!!!
But ....... according this article there is a peooibility of it coming into this country from our southern boarder.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/oct/9/us-commander-warns-e...
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Location: SE Louisiana | cruise - 2014-10-12 9:01 AM
NJJ - 2014-10-12 9:38 AM
Itsme - 2014-10-12 8:30 AM I say we secure the texas borders and give it back to mexico...
Huh????? The disease didn't originate or "travel" to the U.S. from Mexico.......Africa !!!!
But ....... according this article there is a peooibility of it coming into this country from our southern boarder.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/oct/9/us-commander-warns-e...
Our only hope there is that can't fly out if they have a temperature and it's a long slow trip across land to the border from Central America and that is after they take time to make arrangements to be taken north.. Once they start coming down sick they won't be able to travel across land. This is a very debilitating sickness. Also remember that just because they come from a hot zone does not mean they are sick or that they carry it. |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | komet. - 2014-10-12 9:36 AM cruise - 2014-10-12 9:01 AM NJJ - 2014-10-12 9:38 AM Itsme - 2014-10-12 8:30 AM I say we secure the texas borders and give it back to mexico... Huh????? The disease didn't originate or "travel" to the U.S. from Mexico.......Africa !!!! But ....... according this article there is a peooibility of it coming into this country from our southern boarder. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/oct/9/us-commander-warns-e... Our only hope there is that can't fly out if they have a temperature and it's a long slow trip across land to the border from Central America and that is after they take time to make arrangements to be taken north.. Once they start coming down sick they won't be able to travel across land. This is a very debilitating sickness. Also remember that just because they come from a hot zone does not mean they are sick or that they carry it.
^^^......It "could" come in from ANY country IF an infected person arrives from there.........but to blame Mexico on this outbreak is just plain ridiculous!!! |
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| Well, it's going to be really ugly if it shows up and starts slaughtering in Central America. Our open border is going to be inundated with people trying to get away from it and believing that the US has an answer for them if they catch it. Our current administration would love that to happen, and probably wouldn't do jack to close the border down with the necessary force.
This is really really bad. I'm going out to ride my horses. I'm trying not to be melodramatic, but this IS really really bad. |
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Location: SE Louisiana | NJJ - 2014-10-12 9:47 AM
komet. - 2014-10-12 9:36 AM cruise - 2014-10-12 9:01 AM NJJ - 2014-10-12 9:38 AM Itsme - 2014-10-12 8:30 AM I say we secure the texas borders and give it back to mexico... Huh????? The disease didn't originate or "travel" to the U.S. from Mexico.......Africa !!!! But ....... according this article there is a peooibility of it coming into this country from our southern boarder. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/oct/9/us-commander-warns-e... Our only hope there is that can't fly out if they have a temperature and it's a long slow trip across land to the border from Central America and that is after they take time to make arrangements to be taken north.. Once they start coming down sick they won't be able to travel across land. This is a very debilitating sickness. Also remember that just because they come from a hot zone does not mean they are sick or that they carry it.
I'll tell you what bothers me the most today. Here we have a TRAINED health care worker that KNOWS how to be careful working with Ebola coming down with it and over three hundred trained workers and doctors already dead from it in Africa, and we are sending thousands of troops that don't have a clue what they are doing into these hot zones. This is a total disaster in the making. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | komet. - 2014-10-12 10:16 AM NJJ - 2014-10-12 9:47 AM komet. - 2014-10-12 9:36 AM cruise - 2014-10-12 9:01 AM NJJ - 2014-10-12 9:38 AM Itsme - 2014-10-12 8:30 AM I say we secure the texas borders and give it back to mexico... Huh????? The disease didn't originate or "travel" to the U.S. from Mexico.......Africa !!!! But ....... according this article there is a peooibility of it coming into this country from our southern boarder. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/oct/9/us-commander-warns-e... Our only hope there is that can't fly out if they have a temperature and it's a long slow trip across land to the border from Central America and that is after they take time to make arrangements to be taken north.. Once they start coming down sick they won't be able to travel across land. This is a very debilitating sickness. Also remember that just because they come from a hot zone does not mean they are sick or that they carry it. I'll tell you what bothers me the most today. Here we have a TRAINED health care worker that KNOWS how to be careful working with Ebola coming down with it and over three hundred trained workers and doctors already dead from it in Africa, and we are sending thousands of troops that don't have a clue what they are doing into these hot zones. This is a total disaster in the making.
I was trying to think of a way to say this and Komet hit the nail on the head with what he just said. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | NJJ - 2014-10-12 9:47 AM komet. - 2014-10-12 9:36 AM cruise - 2014-10-12 9:01 AM NJJ - 2014-10-12 9:38 AM Itsme - 2014-10-12 8:30 AM I say we secure the texas borders and give it back to mexico... Huh????? The disease didn't originate or "travel" to the U.S. from Mexico.......Africa !!!! But ....... according this article there is a peooibility of it coming into this country from our southern boarder. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/oct/9/us-commander-warns-e... Our only hope there is that can't fly out if they have a temperature and it's a long slow trip across land to the border from Central America and that is after they take time to make arrangements to be taken north.. Once they start coming down sick they won't be able to travel across land. This is a very debilitating sickness. Also remember that just because they come from a hot zone does not mean they are sick or that they carry it.
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| The first article below states approximately 150 people arrive in the U.S. daily from ebola infected areas of West Africa. I wonder how many enter other countries (maybe our neighboring countries) and then later tavel to U.S. for whatever reason or come in contact with others who travel to the U.S.? Maybe those others don't arrive in the 5 airports considered our airports to be concerned.
The next article has ebola facts and how many are being treated for it outside of West Africa. I am not sure how recent the info was updated. It includes maps and comparisons to previous outbreaks.
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/susan-jones/cdc-150-people-enter-us-day-ebola-stricken-countries-or-4500-month
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/07/31/world/africa/ebola-virus-outbreak-qa.html?_r=0
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | NJJ - 2014-10-12 8:38 AM Itsme - 2014-10-12 8:30 AM I say we secure the texas borders and give it back to mexico... Huh????? The disease didn't originate or "travel" to the U.S. from Mexico.......Africa !!!!
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| komet. - 2014-10-12 10:16 AM NJJ - 2014-10-12 9:47 AM komet. - 2014-10-12 9:36 AM cruise - 2014-10-12 9:01 AM NJJ - 2014-10-12 9:38 AM Itsme - 2014-10-12 8:30 AM I say we secure the texas borders and give it back to mexico... Huh????? The disease didn't originate or "travel" to the U.S. from Mexico.......Africa !!!! But ....... according this article there is a peooibility of it coming into this country from our southern boarder. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/oct/9/us-commander-warns-e... Our only hope there is that can't fly out if they have a temperature and it's a long slow trip across land to the border from Central America and that is after they take time to make arrangements to be taken north.. Once they start coming down sick they won't be able to travel across land. This is a very debilitating sickness. Also remember that just because they come from a hot zone does not mean they are sick or that they carry it. I'll tell you what bothers me the most today. Here we have a TRAINED health care worker that KNOWS how to be careful working with Ebola coming down with it and over three hundred trained workers and doctors already dead from it in Africa, and we are sending thousands of troops that don't have a clue what they are doing into these hot zones. This is a total disaster in the making.
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | Southtxponygirl - 2014-10-12 10:30 AM komet. - 2014-10-12 10:16 AM NJJ - 2014-10-12 9:47 AM komet. - 2014-10-12 9:36 AM cruise - 2014-10-12 9:01 AM NJJ - 2014-10-12 9:38 AM Itsme - 2014-10-12 8:30 AM I say we secure the texas borders and give it back to mexico... Huh????? The disease didn't originate or "travel" to the U.S. from Mexico.......Africa !!!! But ....... according this article there is a peooibility of it coming into this country from our southern boarder. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/oct/9/us-commander-warns-e... Our only hope there is that can't fly out if they have a temperature and it's a long slow trip across land to the border from Central America and that is after they take time to make arrangements to be taken north.. Once they start coming down sick they won't be able to travel across land. This is a very debilitating sickness. Also remember that just because they come from a hot zone does not mean they are sick or that they carry it. I'll tell you what bothers me the most today. Here we have a TRAINED health care worker that KNOWS how to be careful working with Ebola coming down with it and over three hundred trained workers and doctors already dead from it in Africa, and we are sending thousands of troops that don't have a clue what they are doing into these hot zones. This is a total disaster in the making.
EXACTLY.........We have NO business sending our 3000 troups in there to build hospitals, etc, etc,.........Because they have NO choice since they will be ORDERED to go there. If they want to "volunteer" ......so be it..... |
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I watched a news "snippet" the other day (can't remember who or what) but the man was stating that this disease WILL BE our next "Aids" and that we need to get ahead of it NOW! They "poo-poo'd" the severity of HIV too and look at how it spread. |
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Location: Opelousas, LA | When the troops come home, will they be quarantined for 21 days or just sent home to thier families? Last I heard it was closer to 4000, that is a lot of people exposed if they just get to go home. We all know that a soldiers paycheck won't cover 21 days in a hotel if they want to self quarantine to protect thier loved ones.
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Location: SE Louisiana | NJJ - 2014-10-12 11:17 AM
I watched a news "snippet" the other day (can't remember who or what) but the man was stating that this disease WILL BE our next "Aids" and that we need to get ahead of it NOW! They "poo-poo'd" the severity of HIV too and look at how it spread.
The only thing these two have or could have in common is they come from the same continent. You can have HIV for a long time and not know it. Ebola kills too fast to spread like HIV does. These 3 countries need to be quarantined NOW because if it gets loose the world is screwed. |
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Location: SE Louisiana | Barnmom - 2014-10-12 11:28 AM
When the troops come home, will they be quarantined for 21 days or just sent home to thier families? Last I heard it was closer to 4000, that is a lot of people exposed if they just get to go home. We all know that a soldiers paycheck won't cover 21 days in a hotel if they want to self quarantine to protect thier loved ones.
When it comes to that, there are plenty of closed military bases with empty barracks that could be used for a 21 day quarantine and observation.. and yes, I heard 4000 as well.. |
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Location: Opelousas, LA | komet. - 2014-10-12 11:32 AM Barnmom - 2014-10-12 11:28 AM When the troops come home, will they be quarantined for 21 days or just sent home to thier families? Last I heard it was closer to 4000, that is a lot of people exposed if they just get to go home. We all know that a soldiers paycheck won't cover 21 days in a hotel if they want to self quarantine to protect thier loved ones.
When it comes to that, there are plenty of closed military bases with empty barracks that could be used for a 21 day quarantine and observation.. and yes, I heard 4000 as well..
Will they be quarantined? Common sense says yes, but....
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Location: Golden Gulf Coast of Texas | On the news they said this nurse attended to the patient on his second visit and she was fully protected. So how did she get it? |
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| mreklaw - 2014-10-12 11:40 AM On the news they said this nurse attended to the patient on his second visit and she was fully protected. So how did she get it?
Good question. In an interview on Meet the Press this morning a rep from I think the CDC would not reveal if the health care worker was a man or a woman.
In another article I read they weren't sure if the worker was exposed to the ebola patient on his first or second visit. I guess from the report you heard they have determined it was the second visit. |
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Location: SE Louisiana | mreklaw - 2014-10-12 11:40 AM
On the news they said this nurse attended to the patient on his second visit and she was fully protected. So how did she get it?
Well... unlike all the movies you see, These workers don't go through a booth to get sprayed down before they remove the HazMat suit... The most likely thing is she came into contact with something on the suit then it contacted an open sore or an eye before she washed her hands. |
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when you look at hospitals. they are dirty. corners are not clean. they dont put you in clean bedding after surgery and all of your hair they shaved prior to surgery you wake up in. Whe they pull the catheter. they dont contain the urine. just unsanitary.
No mats like Canada has at the airports that clean your shoes. Heck that would be so simple to have those mats everywhere at hospitals. You see doctors and nurseswalking all over the hospital in those paper covers from surgery even eating in them. Anyways I dont have to be a virologist or whatever , I do know we all need to boost our immune systems. stop eating junk food. And practice clean bathroom techniques. It is no news flash our government is broken. We the people need to defend Unless we the people take care of ourselves instead of the expecting the government to do it for us, it is only going to get worse. |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Seriously, what needs to be done is something like this. Issue a proclamation that all people originating from Africa have a 2 week grace period to get into the US, and once they do, they need to be quarantined for 3 weeks. After that, no individuals originating from the African continent be allowed into a US city. As far as I can tell, at this point, there isn't a test that is proven to be reliable and sensitive in screening for Ebola. They are working on it, like they are working on several different medicines, a vaccine, and possibly antiserum. Until a reliable screening test has been developed, this would be the best way of protecting the US against Ebola. That is assuming it isn't too late. Once a reliable screening test is available, then I would think having that as a mandatory requirement for getting into the US (for anyone originating from Africa) would probably be all that's needed. That will probably take some time. Of course, if cases start popping up in Mexico, then we have a whole new set of problems to deal with. You don't have to have a lot of imagination to envision how this disease could lead to serious or even catastrophic economic problems. |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | SG. - 2014-10-12 12:30 PM when you look at hospitals. they are dirty. corners are not clean. they dont put you in clean bedding after surgery and all of your hair they shaved prior to surgery you wake up in. Whe they pull the catheter. they dont contain the urine. just unsanitary.
No mats like Canada has at the airports that clean your shoes. Heck that would be so simple to have those mats everywhere at hospitals. You see doctors and nurseswalking all over the hospital in those paper covers from surgery even eating in them. Anyways I dont have to be a virologist or whatever , I do know we all need to boost our immune systems. stop eating junk food. And practice clean bathroom techniques. It is no news flash our government is broken. We the people need to defend Unless we the people take care of ourselves instead of the expecting the government to do it for us, it is only going to get worse.
Another thing is we see so many people come into a restaurant wearing their surgical scrubs. My husband and I got up and walked out of a restaurant when a group of vets and vet techs came in and their clothes weren't clean. Our vet back home had complete coveralls that he would put on plus rubber boots when he came to a barn. When he was done he scrubbed his boots down and took his coverall off and put it in a garbage can. |
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Location: wherever my daughter's running | komet. - 2014-10-12 10:36 AM cruise - 2014-10-12 9:01 AM NJJ - 2014-10-12 9:38 AM Itsme - 2014-10-12 8:30 AM I say we secure the texas borders and give it back to mexico... Huh????? The disease didn't originate or "travel" to the U.S. from Mexico.......Africa !!!! But ....... according this article there is a peooibility of it coming into this country from our southern boarder. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/oct/9/us-commander-warns-e... Our only hope there is that can't fly out if they have a temperature and it's a long slow trip across land to the border from Central America and that is after they take time to make arrangements to be taken north.. Once they start coming down sick they won't be able to travel across land. This is a very debilitating sickness. Also remember that just because they come from a hot zone does not mean they are sick or that they carry it.
The article says anyone can ride the network and I believe that. The Marine that was in Costa Rico spoke an embassy person who had encountered a handful of people from Liberia that were going to cross our boarders. If the incubation period is 21days would it not be feasible for them to he able to get here through our boarders? Then develop the fever and be to the point of spreading Ebola? I do understand thAt just because they come from a hot spot does not mean. they have it. I also never implied it originated in Mexico. Just sharing an article that talks about the possibility. |
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Location: SE Louisiana | cruise - 2014-10-12 1:31 PM
komet. - 2014-10-12 10:36 AM cruise - 2014-10-12 9:01 AM NJJ - 2014-10-12 9:38 AM Itsme - 2014-10-12 8:30 AM I say we secure the texas borders and give it back to mexico... Huh????? The disease didn't originate or "travel" to the U.S. from Mexico.......Africa !!!! But ....... according this article there is a peooibility of it coming into this country from our southern boarder. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/oct/9/us-commander-warns-e... Our only hope there is that can't fly out if they have a temperature and it's a long slow trip across land to the border from Central America and that is after they take time to make arrangements to be taken north.. Once they start coming down sick they won't be able to travel across land. This is a very debilitating sickness. Also remember that just because they come from a hot zone does not mean they are sick or that they carry it.
Yes.. It Could happen, The incubation period, that is, the time interval from infection with the virus to onset of symptoms is 2 to 21 days. Never say never .. but the average is quite a bit less than 21 days. |
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Location: wherever my daughter's running | Thank you Komet. It may be a little far reaching for it to come across our Southern boarders, but it is possible. Wish the decision to addreess our boarder issues had not been put on hold till after the elections. The next few weeks should give us a better feel for Ebola here in the US. |
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Location: SE Louisiana | cruise - 2014-10-12 2:03 PM
Thank you Komet. It may be a little far reaching for it to come across our Southern boarders, but it is possible. Wish the decision to addreess our boarder issues had not been put on hold till after the elections. The next few weeks should give us a better feel for Ebola here in the US.
Quite right about the next few weeks... This nurse has been in close contact with many patients in the hospital since she became infected.... We better start praying now.. |
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Location: wherever my daughter's running | I wonder what, if any, is the difference in the way the people who have flown on the three flights to bring Ebola patients here and the way the hospital staff are using protective gear and handling the patient. I saw the explanation of how the flight was set up with the isolation chamber. Very interesting. |
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Prayers needed for the US. Now, we all need to get after our authorties to find a test for quick diagnosis. |
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Location: wherever my daughter's running | Prayers for these two health care workers. It was stated on CNN this morning by a Dr. that has delt with Ebola for years that there is a blood test that can detect Ebola before the fever presents. WHY is this not being done? According to what the CDC is saying the body fluids must enter the body throught an open place on the skin or mucus membrane. This must be the way these two contracted it. I really wish someone would follow up on this to see if that is indeed the case. The healthcare workers caring for Duncan were told to wrap tape around their exposed necks. There have to be hazmat suits somewhere close - the people that are cleaning up have them - why can't they get them to the people directly caring for the patients. Why not spray them down with bleach before they remove their gear. The CDC has made huge mistakes. Now they are reporting that 13,000 people from West Africa have visas to enter this country over the next several weeks. For gosh sake someone step up to the plate and take charge and cancel these visas. |
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Location: SE Louisiana | cruise - 2014-10-15 5:47 AM
Prayers for these two health care workers. It was stated on CNN this morning by a Dr. that has delt with Ebola for years that there is a blood test that can detect Ebola before the fever presents. WHY is this not being done? According to what the CDC is saying the body fluids must enter the body through an open place on the skin or mucus membrane. This must be the way these two contracted it. I really wish someone would follow up on this to see if that is indeed the case. The healthcare workers caring for Duncan were told to wrap tape around their exposed necks. There have to be hazmat suits somewhere close - the people that are cleaning up have them - why can't they get them to the people directly caring for the patients. Why not spray them down with bleach before they remove their gear. The CDC has made huge mistakes. Now they are reporting that 13,000 people from West Africa have visas to enter this country over the next several weeks. For gosh sake someone step up to the plate and take charge and cancel these visas.
I agree to the point the borders of these countries need to be closed. With 1000 new cases a week, I think they have lost control of this thing in Africa and containment is no longer possible. The early test has been around for a long time. I heard about it years ago. I understand it detects antibodies so a person needs to have had it long enough to have started creating antibodies and before they start to show symptoms. I believe it is an instant test of blood that has been centrifuged but I'm not sure about the details. Treating patients in a hazmat suit is difficult. It's a bulky suit with positive air pressure and they have thick gloves making delicate procedures almost impossible. This hospital is going to have a lot to answer for when this is over.
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Location: Texas | If this is truly what the health care workers were wearing caring for Duncan, I'm surprised they don't ALL have it considering there was projectile vomiting and explosive diarrhea. Good luck getting nurses to care for current or any new patients. I wouldn't for all the money in the world!
http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/health/2014/10/14/sgmd-gupta-ebola-suit-demo.cnn.html
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Location: wherever my daughter's running | uno-dos-tres! - 2014-10-15 6:04 AM This is flat --- scary!
Prayers needed for the US. Now, we all need to get after our authorties to find a test for quick diagnosis.
According to a Dr. (sorry don't remember his name) on CNN this morning who treated Ebola patients in the past for several years there is a blood test that can be done before the fever presents. He said the white count bottoms out. I wonder if this test will be done on the 70 workers that cared for Duncan. |
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Itsme - 2014-10-12 8:30 AM I say we secure the texas borders and give it back to mexico...
Huh????? The disease didn't originate or "travel" to the U.S. from Mexico.......Africa !!!!
No....No.... What came in from Mexico Border is .. Tuberculosis 10 children Diagnosed.....and Entrovirus 68. And If I remember right 4 children have died...now Ebola in West Africa... South Africa won't even let them cross the border.... and they have 11 hospitals ready to treat a Ebola ....they have not had one case.... But our dumb Pres. will send 3000 of our young men over ....... Ok I'm done |
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Location: Arkansas | According to the new's, there is now a second nurse infected and under isolation and obersvation.
Is the hospital providing the health care giver's protection on the cheap? Cover their neck with some kind of medical wrap. Sure sounds like it.
You know, the CDC and WHO can only advise and provide guide line's. |
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Location: Online | Lobo - 2014-10-15 9:16 AM According to the new's, there is now a second nurse infected and under isolation and obersvation.
Is the hospital providing the health care giver's protection on the cheap? Cover their neck with some kind of medical wrap. Sure sounds like it.
You know, the CDC and WHO can only advise and provide guide line's.
Yeah, and it turns out she was on an airplane from Dallas to Ohio??? I think? Just heard a snippet. So those other 130-some passengers are now at risk.
This isn't going to stop until our narcissist dictator in chief grows a pair, and actually admits he screwed up and gets his people on board with prevention. Stop people from coming into the country. Too friggin' bad if someone is offended because they have to sit in a quaranteen room for a few weeks. There's way more important things than someone being inconvenienced.
The conspiracy theory type of my brain says it's all apart of his plan. Population control.... |
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Location: up to my waist in you know what | JUST IN: CDC: Dallas hospital worker with Ebola was on Frontier Airlines Flight 1143 from Cleveland to Dallas-Fort Worth on Monday.
Passengers who may have traveled on Monday's Flight 1143 are asked to contact the CDC at 1-800-CDC-INFO
Flying the day before the confirmation that they were infected with Ebola.
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | rodeomom13 - 2014-10-15 10:29 AM Lobo - 2014-10-15 9:16 AM According to the new's, there is now a second nurse infected and under isolation and obersvation.
Is the hospital providing the health care giver's protection on the cheap? Cover their neck with some kind of medical wrap. Sure sounds like it.
You know, the CDC and WHO can only advise and provide guide line's. Yeah, and it turns out she was on an airplane from Dallas to Ohio??? I think? Just heard a snippet. So those other 130-some passengers are now at risk.
This isn't going to stop until our narcissist dictator in chief grows a pair, and actually admits he screwed up and gets his people on board with prevention. Stop people from coming into the country. Too friggin' bad if someone is offended because they have to sit in a quaranteen room for a few weeks. There's way more important things than someone being inconvenienced.
The conspiracy theory type of my brain says it's all apart of his plan. Population control....
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Location: Arkansas | rodeomom13 - 2014-10-15 10:29 AM
Lobo - 2014-10-15 9:16 AM According to the new's, there is now a second nurse infected and under isolation and obersvation.
Is the hospital providing the health care giver's protection on the cheap? Cover their neck with some kind of medical wrap. Sure sounds like it.
You know, the CDC and WHO can only advise and provide guide line's.
Yeah, and it turns out she was on an airplane from Dallas to Ohio??? I think? Just heard a snippet. So those other 130-some passengers are now at risk.
This isn't going to stop until our narcissist dictator in chief grows a pair, and actually admits he screwed up and gets his people on board with prevention. Stop people from coming into the country. Too friggin' bad if someone is offended because they have to sit in a quaranteen room for a few weeks. There's way more important things than someone being inconvenienced.
The conspiracy theory type of my brain says it's all apart of his plan. Population control....
Can you imagine the squealingland huffing and puffing the hospitals and states would do if the Adminstration did mandate the health care for Ebola patient's. The hospital and state's claim they know how to protect their nurses!
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| powerstroke power - 2014-10-15 10:43 AM ALSO, THOUGHT THEY WERE MONITORING ALL 70 HEALTH CARE WORKERS....THEY LET HER FLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It blows my mind how this has been handled, it's like the Keystone Cops- nobody knows what to do or recognizes the need to be more proactive. I can't believe that the CDC didn't fly an experienced team to Dallas to handle Duncan when first diagnosed. |
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Location: Golden Gulf Coast of Texas | powerstroke power - 2014-10-15 10:43 AM
ALSO, THOUGHT THEY WERE MONITORING ALL 70 HEALTH CARE WORKERS....THEY LET HER FLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I CANT BELIEVE THIS EITHER. JUST WHAT KIND OF MONITORING ARE THEY DOING IF THEY LET HER FLY???? HOW MANY OTHERS THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO BE MONITORED ARE JUST GOING ABOUT THEIR NORMAL LIVES??? |
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Location: North Dakota | rodeomom13 - 2014-10-15 10:29 AM Lobo - 2014-10-15 9:16 AM According to the new's, there is now a second nurse infected and under isolation and obersvation.
Is the hospital providing the health care giver's protection on the cheap? Cover their neck with some kind of medical wrap. Sure sounds like it.
You know, the CDC and WHO can only advise and provide guide line's. Yeah, and it turns out she was on an airplane from Dallas to Ohio??? I think? Just heard a snippet. So those other 130-some passengers are now at risk.
This isn't going to stop until our narcissist dictator in chief grows a pair, and actually admits he screwed up and gets his people on board with prevention. Stop people from coming into the country. Too friggin' bad if someone is offended because they have to sit in a quaranteen room for a few weeks. There's way more important things than someone being inconvenienced.
The conspiracy theory type of my brain says it's all apart of his plan. Population control....
Population control at its finest. Biological warfare or his "health care" plan; one way or another he'll get er done. |
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Location: Broxton, Ga | mreklaw - 2014-10-14 12:22 PM powerstroke power - 2014-10-15 10:43 AM ALSO, THOUGHT THEY WERE MONITORING ALL 70 HEALTH CARE WORKERS....THEY LET HER FLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I CANT BELIEVE THIS EITHER. JUST WHAT KIND OF MONITORING ARE THEY DOING IF THEY LET HER FLY???? HOW MANY OTHERS THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO BE MONITORED ARE JUST GOING ABOUT THEIR NORMAL LIVES???
And my husband flies every week and yes to and out of Dallas............ |
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Location: The edge of no where | classicpotatochip - 2014-10-15 10:51 AM Like I said on a previous post... You couldn't pay me to fly for all the tea in China. Told you.
I absolutely agree with you. I can't think of a quicker way to spread it all across the country than thru airports. Lets all go sit in a long metal cylinder with people from all over for a few hours.... |
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Location: Broxton, Ga | rodeomom3 - 2014-10-14 11:56 AM powerstroke power - 2014-10-15 10:43 AM ALSO, THOUGHT THEY WERE MONITORING ALL 70 HEALTH CARE WORKERS....THEY LET HER FLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It blows my mind how this has been handled, it's like the Keystone Cops- nobody knows what to do or recognizes the need to be more proactive. I can't believe that the CDC didn't fly an experienced team to Dallas to handle Duncan when first diagnosed.
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| TrailGirl - 2014-10-15 11:37 AM
I asked someone today wondering why his family hasn't turned up sick...their answer.... "He KNEW he was infected...so THEY knew not to be in contact with him" ...kinda makes sense.
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Location: Golden Gulf Coast of Texas | CJE - 2014-10-15 11:36 AM
rodeomom3 - 2014-10-14 11:56 AM powerstroke power - 2014-10-15 10:43 AM ALSO, THOUGHT THEY WERE MONITORING ALL 70 HEALTH CARE WORKERS....THEY LET HER FLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It blows my mind how this has been handled, it's like the Keystone Cops- nobody knows what to do or recognizes the need to be more proactive. I can't believe that the CDC didn't fly an experienced team to Dallas to handle Duncan when first diagnosed.
YEP OBOZO HAS FOUND A WAY TO BRING OUR POPULATION DOWN AND TAKE THE ECONOMY DOWN ALSO. THE ECONOMIC RAMIFICATIONS ARE GOING TO BE JUST AS DEADLY AS THE LOSS OF LIFE. |
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Location: Arkansas | Again....the CDC and WHO can only advise and guide the hospitals. If the hospital or state ignore or think they have every thing under control....CDC and WHO are SOL.
Can you imgaine all the brew-ha-ha there would be if the government told those states and hosopital's that they weren't doing it right and we're gonna take over? !
CDC and WHO has sent out flyers and e-mails to these hospitals for week's. Evidently they were ignored. From one deceased patient, there are now two of his caregiver's infected! And one air headed enough to fly!
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| I think it's the first nurses boyfriend...works for a company with 22,000 employees and went about his daily business for a week before being "monitored". They can't catch it though, right!
I wonder if the 2nd nurse knew she had symptoms on the flight back? Maybe she wanted to be "in network" and flew home to Dallas. |
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| rodeomom13 - 2014-10-15 10:29 AM
Lobo - 2014-10-15 9:16 AM According to the new's, there is now a second nurse infected and under isolation and obersvation.
Is the hospital providing the health care giver's protection on the cheap? Cover their neck with some kind of medical wrap. Sure sounds like it.
You know, the CDC and WHO can only advise and provide guide line's.
Yeah, and it turns out she was on an airplane from Dallas to Ohio??? I think? Just heard a snippet. So those other 130-some passengers are now at risk.
This isn't going to stop until our narcissist dictator in chief grows a pair, and actually admits he screwed up and gets his people on board with prevention. Stop people from coming into the country. Too friggin' bad if someone is offended because they have to sit in a quaranteen room for a few weeks. There's way more important things than someone being inconvenienced.
The conspiracy theory type of my brain says it's all apart of his plan. Population control....
You forgot on top of the population control, Democrat replacement voters in place once others are gone from diseases with our secure borders they claim!!!!! |
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Location: Oz, Kansas | powerstroke power - 2014-10-15 10:51 AM I think it's the first nurses boyfriend...works for a company with 22,000 employees and went about his daily business for a week before being "monitored". They can't catch it though, right! I wonder if the 2nd nurse knew she had symptoms on the flight back? Maybe she wanted to be "in network" and flew home to Dallas.
From what I saw the plane landed at 8:16 pm in Dallas & she went to the hospital the next morning with symptoms. I have a cousin that works in that hospital and knows several of the nurses that treated Duncan but thankfully she didn't work on his case or come in contact with them after having symptoms. I also heard that the Mayor of the town that typically would take medical hazardous material is refusing to allow the waste to be brought in. |
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Location: Where I am happiest | Thats it, my latex gloves are going on every time I leave the house! Grocery shopping, you name it. Anybody could have gone to the restroom in either airport right behind this individual. Flushed the same toilet, and we all know you use the same flush handle and THEN go wash your hands. Least I hope but I always see people just walk out without washing. Did this individual eat at the airport? Touched magazines? Then those at the airport get on flights heading God knows where.
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| yankeeredneck - 2014-10-15 12:09 PM
They quartantine animals entering this country but they won't quarantine people entering this country from known hot regions - go figure
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Location: Golden Gulf Coast of Texas | ThreeCorners - 2014-10-15 12:01 PM
Thats it, my latex gloves are going on every time I leave the house! Grocery shopping, you name it. Anybody could have gone to the restroom in either airport right behind this individual. Flushed the same toilet, and we all know you use the same flush handle and THEN go wash your hands. Least I hope but I always see people just walk out without washing. Did this individual eat at the airport? Touched magazines? Then those at the airport get on flights heading God knows where.
This is what I've been thinking along with stocking up on all necessities just in case. Might have to lay low for awhile! Preppers are looking pretty good about now! |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | Nevertooold - 2014-10-15 10:41 AM rodeomom13 - 2014-10-15 10:29 AM Lobo - 2014-10-15 9:16 AM According to the new's, there is now a second nurse infected and under isolation and obersvation.
Is the hospital providing the health care giver's protection on the cheap? Cover their neck with some kind of medical wrap. Sure sounds like it.
You know, the CDC and WHO can only advise and provide guide line's. Yeah, and it turns out she was on an airplane from Dallas to Ohio??? I think? Just heard a snippet. So those other 130-some passengers are now at risk.
This isn't going to stop until our narcissist dictator in chief grows a pair, and actually admits he screwed up and gets his people on board with prevention. Stop people from coming into the country. Too friggin' bad if someone is offended because they have to sit in a quaranteen room for a few weeks. There's way more important things than someone being inconvenienced.
The conspiracy theory type of my brain says it's all apart of his plan. Population control....
I agree......If one person contracts the disease from this person's actions, she should be charged with something.....I would think that ANY of the nurses, etc that were in direct contact with Duncan would have enough COMMON sense to quarantine themselves. She is an IDIOT !!!! |
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Location: lost in missouri | What it will take is one of the countries elected officials getting it or their family member getting it before they will do anything. they dont care about us common folk. As far as the military he is sending in I have a terrible thought about that. Obama has never been a fan of our military what a nice way for him to get to downsize and weaken it by getting them sick. I have feared from the start that he will be the one that will find a way to keep himself in office after his term is over. If he can weaken our armed forces, trash the banking industry and have this country in dire straits he may get it done. |
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Location: wherever my daughter's running | The second Dallas nurse to get Ebola is being flown to Atlanta. What I want to know is what type of protective gear do the people tending to these patients in the airplane wear.
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Location: CTX | So now a Belton student has been diagnosed too..... This is right around the corner.... and they can't stop it!!
http://www.kwtx.com/home/headlines/Second-Texas-Health-CAre-Worker-Diagnosed-With-Ebola-Virus-279266452.html
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Location: Nebraska | cruise - 2014-10-15 2:08 PM The second Dallas nurse to get Ebola is being flown to Atlanta. What I want to know is what type of protective gear do the people tending to these patients in the airplane wear.
when I watched a video about how the NE biocontainment unit works, they transport the patient in like a pod thing so the people tending don't have to wear anything special |
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Location: Broxton, Ga | Really..................
http://www.tpnn.com/2014/10/15/obama-cdc-director-a-travel-ban-to-ebola-inflicted-countries-would-put-us-at-higher-risk/
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Location: CTX | rodeomom3 - 2014-10-15 5:56 PM Not diagnosed yet, a letter sent home to parents alerting them that a student was on the same flight as the 2nd nurse and is being monitored- hope they are getting better at monitoring this by now.
Oh, yes you are right. Read the title a bit too fast. But it is still getting closer and closer.... |
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| cranky B4 10am - 2014-10-15 6:15 PM rodeomom3 - 2014-10-15 5:56 PM cranky B4 10am - 2014-10-15 5:44 PM So now a Belton student has been diagnosed too..... This is right around the corner.... and they can't stop it!! http://www.kwtx.com/home/headlines/Second-Texas-Health-CAre-Worker-Diagnosed-With-Ebola-Virus-279266452.html
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | Makes you really wonder if the lack of doing anything is from pure ignorance or was it done on purpose? I don't trust anyone that is associated with this President nor do I believe anything they say. |
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Location: Oklahoma | It probably would have been some form of racism to not allow her to fly. |
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Location: Peach State | As a nurse I'm getting very concerned about the goverment letting this get out of hand and today I recieved a email from the board with "ebola guidelines" which to me still seemed rather weak when it comes to a virus of this nature. All we can do is have faith in our God and not rely on our goverment to protect "we the people".
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | RunninOnARooster - 2014-10-15 9:22 PM As a nurse I'm getting very concerned about the goverment letting this get out of hand and today I recieved a email from the board with "ebola guidelines" which to me still seemed rather weak when it comes to a virus of this nature. All we can do is have faith in our God and not rely on our goverment to protect "we the people". Also keep my sister in law and her coworkers in your prayers as she is working at Emory hospital in ATL.
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Location: CTX | Wow, it is just getting better and better...... and my mom is flying in from Europe this weekend.... Thank heavens she is flying into Houston, but still.... this is getting out of hand, and I don't see it getting better anytime soon... really not getting that warm and fuzzy feeling right now.... |
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| Griz - 2014-10-16 6:43 AM That nurse contacted CDC (Centers for Disease CONFUSION) and they OK'D her to fly - how's THAT for a warm fuzzy?
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| The Belton ISD is taking precautions. They closed the campuses down today and are cleaning the schools and buses. The children that were on the flight are being kept home for the 21 days by their parents. My home town is Belton. We dont live there now byt we have alot of family there and travel there every 2 weeks. Scheduled to go back tomorrow. .. considering postponing. Id rather be overreacting than not. |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | Never fear. The morons of Congress, who now have all become experts, are speaking about it now and of course Henry Waxman is blaming it on sequestration. I don't think that has anything to do with being dumb asses about this whole thing and not closing borders. |
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| Nevertooold - 2014-10-16 11:26 AM Never fear. The morons of Congress, who now have all become experts, are speaking about it now and of course Henry Waxman is blaming it on sequestration. I don't think that has anything to do with being dumb asses about this whole thing and not closing borders.
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2nd Texas health care worker tests positive for Ebola