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Location: Texas | Ouch! I have been recommended Underwoods with baking powder for proud flesh. After our last injury, I am a firm believer in Vetrisyn (?sp). You really need a {{hug}}. |
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| RocketPilot - 2014-10-15 10:35 AM
Ouch! I have been recommended Underwoods with baking powder for proud flesh. After our last injury, I am a firm believer in Vetrisyn (?sp). You really need a {{hug}}.
That's what I thought too, so when I first seen it I cleaned it and then applied underwoods and baking powder and headed to the vet. When I got there she told me not to use underwoods for leg injuries because it is known to promote proud flesh and the baking soda will trap the bacteria in the wound. 
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| rodeomom3 - 2014-10-15 10:38 AM
Wow, glad your husband is doing better. Hope your other guy heals up too. Here is to a better rest of the week! Hugs.
Thank you, he has a broken pelvis, shoulder, and his head is still swollen but he wouldn't stay in the hospital... I take him back next week to see what we are going to do next. |
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Location: The barn...where else? SW Missouri | FlyingJT - 2014-10-15 10:48 AM rodeomom3 - 2014-10-15 10:38 AM Wow, glad your husband is doing better. Hope your other guy heals up too. Here is to a better rest of the week! Hugs. Thank you, he has a broken pelvis, shoulder, and his head is still swollen but he wouldn't stay in the hospital... I take him back next week to see what we are going to do next.
How scary for your husband. Glad to hear he is doing better. I use plain old powdered lime on stuff like that. It keeps off proud flesh and flies. Running cold water on it also promotes healing. I pick off the lime when I wash it and just throw more on it. I swear it works. If I told my vet I did that he would have a heart attack. I have healed some really bad places doing this. Hugs to you. |
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Location: Nebraska | Sorry about your week!
Same thing happened to my mare. It was completely healed in 9 weeks or so. Make sure the joint capsule wasn't damaged though because that can lead to a nasty infection! Mine I just wrapped with a diaper (a larger one so it goes up higher but basically the same way you do for an abscess) and cleaned with iodine 2x a day. Mine never got proud flesh. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Sorry to hear about hubby, prayers for a fast healing and hope that cow is in the feeezer now, lol...
And that foot oh my goodness, that looks a mess, but you will have her all healed up in no time. Had one do that a few years back, he took off the whole half of his heel and hoof, was nasty but he healed up just fine just took awhile. You sure do have your plate full, giving you a hug 
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| Southtxponygirl - 2014-10-15 1:25 PM
Sorry to hear about hubby, prayers for a fast healing and hope that cow is in the feeezer now, lol...
And that foot oh my goodness, that looks a mess, but you will have her all healed up in no time. Had one do that a few years back, he took off the whole half of his heel and hoof, was nasty but he healed up just fine just took awhile. You sure do have your plate full, giving you a hug
That's where she was suppose to be headed but unfortunately they took a 15ft dive off into a creek bed and she broke her neck in the fall. She's still down there, coyotes should be eating well!
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | FlyingJT - 2014-10-15 1:30 PM Southtxponygirl - 2014-10-15 1:25 PM Sorry to hear about hubby, prayers for a fast healing and hope that cow is in the feeezer now, lol...
And that foot oh my goodness, that looks a mess, but you will have her all healed up in no time. Had one do that a few years back, he took off the whole half of his heel and hoof, was nasty but he healed up just fine just took awhile. You sure do have your plate full, giving you a hug That's where she was suppose to be headed but unfortunately they took a 15ft dive off into a creek bed and she broke her neck in the fall. She's still down there, coyotes should be eating well!
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| Southtxponygirl - 2014-10-15 1:40 PM
FlyingJT - 2014-10-15 1:30 PM Southtxponygirl - 2014-10-15 1:25 PM Sorry to hear about hubby, prayers for a fast healing and hope that cow is in the feeezer now, lol...
And that foot oh my goodness, that looks a mess, but you will have her all healed up in no time. Had one do that a few years back, he took off the whole half of his heel and hoof, was nasty but he healed up just fine just took awhile. You sure do have your plate full, giving you a hug That's where she was suppose to be headed but unfortunately they took a 15ft dive off into a creek bed and she broke her neck in the fall. She's still down there, coyotes should be eating well!
no, he should have been and I don't think it would have happened. she got locked up the night before to take her to the sale and the next morning she was gone. She had jumped the pipe gate, to cattle guards, and one fence. So he went out to bring her back in and she wouldn't drive, kept charging, jumped another fence, he didn't have the trailer so he didn't rope her because they were too far from the barn to drag back. So he went and got the gun to tranquilize her, the truck and trailer and someone to help. Well that darn cow wouldn't stop facing off with the truck so he got out to get around her and when he shot her she turned and came after him. unfortunately there was one place to go, and he didn't think she would follow him over but... she did. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | FlyingJT - 2014-10-15 1:53 PM Southtxponygirl - 2014-10-15 1:40 PM FlyingJT - 2014-10-15 1:30 PM Southtxponygirl - 2014-10-15 1:25 PM Sorry to hear about hubby, prayers for a fast healing and hope that cow is in the feeezer now, lol...
And that foot oh my goodness, that looks a mess, but you will have her all healed up in no time. Had one do that a few years back, he took off the whole half of his heel and hoof, was nasty but he healed up just fine just took awhile. You sure do have your plate full, giving you a hug That's where she was suppose to be headed but unfortunately they took a 15ft dive off into a creek bed and she broke her neck in the fall. She's still down there, coyotes should be eating well! no, he should have been and I don't think it would have happened. she got locked up the night before to take her to the sale and the next morning she was gone. She had jumped the pipe gate, to cattle guards, and one fence. So he went out to bring her back in and she wouldn't drive, kept charging, jumped another fence, he didn't have the trailer so he didn't rope her because they were too far from the barn to drag back. So he went and got the gun to tranquilize her, the truck and trailer and someone to help. Well that darn cow wouldn't stop facing off with the truck so he got out to get around her and when he shot her she turned and came after him. unfortunately there was one place to go, and he didn't think she would follow him over but... she did.
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Location: Sperry, OK | FlyingJT - 2014-10-15 10:25 AM Well this week has been a nerve racking, anxiety stricken week and it's only Wednesday, thank goodness only two more days! First my husband was involved in a really bad accident Sunday, with a very angry cow, that put him in the hospital for three days and he's lucky to be alive. Then we get home from the hospital yesterday and I go check on the horses and my 2yr old decided to try a rip the side of her hoof off. I took her to the vet and luckily no tendons or ligaments were involved. They have me keeping it open, cleaning once a day and applying a steroid and antibacterial spray twice a day. I uploaded some pictures, tell me what you guys think. I told them I was worried about proud flesh but they said the steroid should help keep it from forming.
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Location: Alberta | Wow that's scary, your hubby sounds like he was pretty lucky! Hopefully he has a quick recovery.
We had two separate horses have similar injuries to yours this summer. The first one we doctored for three weeks; cold hosed 2x a day, kept it wrapped and tried all kinds of different creams and finally we decided it wasn't going to heal without some kind of miracle so we took her to the vet and he cut a ton of dead flesh off, stitched what he could and casted it from just below the ankle joint and covered her whole hoof. After just under 4 weeks we got her cast removed and I was shocked with how it looked!! Almost completely healed. The 2nd horse hurt himself the day after we took her to the vet so we took him in too with in an hr of injuring himself and after 4 weeks it was completely healed with hair grown back!
I would really recommend checking into casting if you are able to keep her in a dry stall for the next couple weeks, I will never waste my time cold hosing and wrapping again if casting is an option!
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Sometimes I think those stupid crazed heifers are worse than any animal that charges! My parents used to carry a baseball bat when they were feeding a group that had a couple of my brother's former show heifers. They weren't afraid at all!! (and they were Limos.... imagine that!) Prayers that everyone gets to feeling better!! |
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| I bought a nice horse about 10 years ago had a wound on outside of cannon bone huge, sedated her cleaned all pround flesh and put pickle lime on it and wraped it changed wrap once a week healed up fine. Also, one of my friends horses hurt herself in trailer at a show cut herself on the leg where you could not stich and she really did not,have the money to pay a vet to come to,show and could not stich it anyway. Well since it was fresh i got some telfa pads and taped the on the cut and borrowed a clean no bow legwrap and wrapped that thing and put vetrap on top of it vet came out tues and rewraped told the girl that she could not have done anybetter. just made me feel good. I a mare that had gotton hurt as a long yearling it was so bad they had to knock her out and lay her down to wrap it so,they did 2 times first week and then every 4 or 5 days, just like the casting. The pressure wrap is great.
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Location: Kansas | Glad to hear your husband is getting better. We also had a very similar injury on one of our colts over a year ago he kicked literally through a piece of tin in our shed and cut it very deep to where you could see the bone and it also got in the hoof wall. Thank God it missed all ligaments and tendons.
It left a nasty scar and now deformed hoof. He is still rideable it is just cosmetic now. I tried to upload pictures but it wouldn't work. We used vetricyn wonder dust and a lot of iodione.
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | FlyingJT - 2014-10-22 3:46 PM One week down. Cleaning once a day with surgical wash, applying twice a day: gentamicin, Alu-spray, along with bute and uniprim.
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| FlyingJT - 2014-10-15 10:48 AM
rodeomom3 - 2014-10-15 10:38 AM
Wow, glad your husband is doing better. Hope your other guy heals up too. Here is to a better rest of the week! Hugs.
Thank you, he has a broken pelvis, shoulder, and his head is still swollen but he wouldn't stay in the hospital... I take him back next week to see what we are going to do next.
DANG girl!! You need a couple of stiff drinks and a "time-out" for a while!!
Nitrofurazone works really well on lower extremities and proud flesh. Comes in a big blue tub with they yellow lid.
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| Southtxponygirl - 2014-10-23 11:10 AM
How is your hubby doing?
good, driving me crazy!!
He has some bleeding in his shoulder but nothing to worry about I guess. Still can't walk very well but he seems to think that its feeling better. Bruises are turning yellow now so they should be gone soon. All in All he's on the uphill.
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| Taken 11/9/14, almost 4 weeks....... Still lame, swelling up high around the digital flexor tendon, not sore to the touch but I can't determine if she's lame from the wound or if it has to do with the tendon. I first thought the swelling was secondary to the wound but now I'm thinking it's a separate injury.
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It's been several months now and the wound is almost healed, however she is still lame. Made an appointment with OSU and took her in this morning. Took more X-rays and found the culprit. WIRE! There is a piece of wire lodged in the coffin joint and has traveled to the opposite side. Vets were very surprised she was even weight bearing on that leg and that there was no infection. She goes into surgery tomorrow morning to get it removed and once we are in the clear from infection I'll bring her home. Please think good thoughts that there is no complications and the road to recovery will be smooth. We won't know how sound she'll be when this is all over but I'm hoping for her that she'll be 100%, two is too young for her to be deemed a broodmare only!
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Location: The best kept secret in TX | FlyingJT - 2015-01-05 4:51 PM Update: 1/5/15 It's been several months now and the wound is almost healed, however she is still lame. Made an appointment with OSU and took her in this morning. Took more X-rays and found the culprit. WIRE! There is a piece of wire lodged in the coffin joint and has traveled to the opposite side. Vets were very surprised she was even weight bearing on that leg and that there was no infection. She goes into surgery tomorrow morning to get it removed and once we are in the clear from infection I'll bring her home. Please think good thoughts that there is no complications and the road to recovery will be smooth. We won't know how sound she'll be when this is all over but I'm hoping for her that she'll be 100%, two is too young for her to be deemed a broodmare only!
WOW!!!
I'm extremely glad for the update. I've been wondering about your filly. I'm glad you found the problem to the lameness. And good for you for pushing the vets to take three four and five looks at the foot. Most people who have a feeling something isn't right are usually correct.
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| lindseylou2290 - 2015-01-06 8:45 AM
Lots of prayers for an easy surgery and fast recovery! How's the husband??!?
He's good, back to work. He still has limited range of motion in his shoulder but it's getting better every day. his pelvis is almost healed, he's able to put about 80% of his weight on it.
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| She's up and out of surgery! They first thought that they were going to have to make an a substantial incision to get the wire out but they were able to change their approach and use a new system they got in, a needle scope, and inject the joint with fluid and push the metal to the front of the joint. There they were able to make a small incision, about 1cm(the width of the end of your finger), and remove it. He said the protein levels in the joint were at a normal level of 2, and the joint fluid was slightly off color and bloody but to be expected consider what was in it. He doesn't believe that there is much infection but is going to do three rounds of isolated antibiotics to the joint. There is slight cartilage damage which we will start Adequan immediately for. They are going to keep her at the school until Friday, if all is well and no signs of infection she will come home. I'm trying to determine what I can do extra to help that joint repair and decrease the chances of any further damage. Concerned about arthritis.
Open to any ideas.
I will probably putt her in softrides to help circulation along with the Back on track wraps and PHT wraps. My local vet has a Class IV Laser that we will try out, never had experience with one so not sure if it works.
**I will try to post pictures of the x-rays and the wound as soon as I can.**
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Location: The best kept secret in TX | Yay she's out! Great news. I'm guessing the cartilage damage is easily fixable?... I don't have any experience with this but I'm hoping it's reversable?... Curious for the x-Rays and pics.
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| IRunOnFaith - 2015-01-06 2:42 PM
Yay she's out! Great news. I'm guessing the cartilage damage is easily fixable?... I don't have any experience with this but I'm hoping it's reversable?... Curious for the x-Rays and pics.
Great job OSU. Continued Prayers.
no, cartilage can't necessarily be repaired. The tissue it's self has a very limited ability to repair damage. The one advantage she may have is that she is only two, with her body still developing and growing we may have some chance that her body will repair the damage. We are going to try and give her the best possibility in repairing it with the supplements and maybe IRAP. |
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Location: The best kept secret in TX | FlyingJT - 2015-01-06 2:55 PM IRunOnFaith - 2015-01-06 2:42 PM Yay she's out! Great news. I'm guessing the cartilage damage is easily fixable?... I don't have any experience with this but I'm hoping it's reversable?... Curious for the x-Rays and pics.
Great job OSU. Continued Prayers. no, cartilage can't necessarily be repaired. The tissue it's self has a very limited ability to repair damage. The one advantage she may have is that she is only two, with her body still developing and growing we may have some chance that her body will repair the damage. We are going to try and give her the best possibility in repairing it with the supplements and maybe IRAP.
Thank you for explaining that. Sorry that it cannot repair itself. But thank goodness she has you as her owner and that you're able to give her all the chances in the world.
I will continue to pray for you all. Hope to hear an update soon of her completely sound. How awesome would that be?? Positive vibes sent your way. |
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| FlyingJT - 2015-01-06 1:03 PM
She's up and out of surgery! They first thought that they were going to have to make an a substantial incision to get the wire out but they were able to change their approach and use a new system they got in, a needle scope, and inject the joint with fluid and push the metal to the front of the joint. There they were able to make a small incision, about 1cm(the width of the end of your finger), and remove it. He said the protein levels in the joint were at a normal level of 2, and the joint fluid was slightly off color and bloody but to be expected consider what was in it. He doesn't believe that there is much infection but is going to do three rounds of isolated antibiotics to the joint. There is slight cartilage damage which we will start Adequan immediately for. They are going to keep her at the school until Friday, if all is well and no signs of infection she will come home. I'm trying to determine what I can do extra to help that joint repair and decrease the chances of any further damage. Concerned about arthritis.
Open to any ideas.
I will probably putt her in softrides to help circulation along with the Back on track wraps and PHT wraps. My local vet has a Class IV Laser that we will try out, never had experience with one so not sure if it works.
**I will try to post pictures of the x-rays and the wound as soon as I can.**
For the damaged cartilage have you discussed with the vets prp, irap, stem cells,
Or adequan Ia - I heard the new studies show less of a chance if joint infection as the initial studies (50%) and the studies have shown success with cartilage regeneration if given ia. I know my vet used it successfully on a stallion who was bone on bone as a last resort before euthanization made the horse pasture sound. |
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FlyingJT - 2015-01-06 1:03 PM
She's up and out of surgery! They first thought that they were going to have to make an a substantial incision to get the wire out but they were able to change their approach and use a new system they got in, a needle scope, and inject the joint with fluid and push the metal to the front of the joint. There they were able to make a small incision, about 1cm(the width of the end of your finger), and remove it. He said the protein levels in the joint were at a normal level of 2, and the joint fluid was slightly off color and bloody but to be expected consider what was in it. He doesn't believe that there is much infection but is going to do three rounds of isolated antibiotics to the joint. There is slight cartilage damage which we will start Adequan immediately for. They are going to keep her at the school until Friday, if all is well and no signs of infection she will come home. I'm trying to determine what I can do extra to help that joint repair and decrease the chances of any further damage. Concerned about arthritis.
Open to any ideas.
I will probably putt her in softrides to help circulation along with the Back on track wraps and PHT wraps. My local vet has a Class IV Laser that we will try out, never had experience with one so not sure if it works.
**I will try to post pictures of the x-rays and the wound as soon as I can.**
For the damaged cartilage have you discussed with the vets prp, irap, stem cells,
Or adequan Ia - I heard the new studies show less of a chance if joint infection as the initial studies (50% ) and the studies have shown success with cartilage regeneration if given ia. I know my vet used it successfully on a stallion who was bone on bone as a last resort before euthanization made the horse pasture sound.
Yes, we've discussed IRAP. I think we are going to give her a month and then re-x-ray and decide which direction we want to go then. |
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| FlyingJT - 2015-01-06 10:10 AM lindseylou2290 - 2015-01-06 8:45 AM Lots of prayers for an easy surgery and fast recovery! How's the husband??!? He's good, back to work. He still has limited range of motion in his shoulder but it's getting better every day. his pelvis is almost healed, he's able to put about 80% of his weight on it. Thanks for asking!
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| readytorodeo - 2015-01-06 9:29 PM
Ultra Oz ultrasound will speed up healing .
I would love to try that but I wonder where I can find someone that has one. |
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| Here's the before and after radiographs.
A lesson that should have already been learned a long time ago and I know better for, but always, always take x-ray's. Even if it looks like a harmless scratch! The damage that this has caused wouldn't of happened had I been more adamant about getting X-rays done!
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| crazy!!! that little tiny piece of wire. wow! |
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