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Location: Kansas | I have....and got screwed on two broodmares. I was told they were sound for breeding/riding. Turns out, one had navicular, and the other was pregnant (sire unknown).
I think if the individual is completely honest and upfront, sends lots of pictures/videos...I wouldn't think twice as long as a vet check is done. I'm getting ready to trade my mare for a gelding. The seller was extremely honest about his issues, and I about my mare. |
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Location: In the land of peanuts and cotton | I bought a 3yr old off just pictures. He didn't look anything like he did in the pics when I got him. When he got to my house he was VERRY under weight. The pics he looked all fat and muscled up. I put weight on him easy though and I like him. |
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | Never done it never will. |
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Location: In a happy place | Yes I bought a 3 year old this year sight unseen. Watched videos of him being ridden. It was very obvious when I talked to the lady that she was honest. Also bought him without a vet check. And I love him. He is everything I wanted.
And I would buy another one from this lady in a heartbeat!
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| I did it, talked to the owner several times on the phone. Saw a few videos both barrel work and slow work and conformation pictures. Got a vet check lined up and even though nothing really came up I did xrays and everything came back clean. The horse is mostly what the owner said, each person rides a bit different so there was an adjustment period but it's worked out great. I would be cautious about doing it but go with your gut. I couldn't afford to fly/drive 1800 miles after driving 1200 to look at a horse to find out it wasn't sound. If you like what you see make sure to get a vet check and that its thorough. |
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | I got my daughter of Heza Fast Man sight unseen and man oh man was I pleased when she stepped off the trailer. |
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| I had a few work out that I bought that way, and a few that didn't. One had a vet check and all and someone paid off the vet to say it was sound. Just remember one persons perception of soundness, riding, level of halter broke is different from others. One person said it was halter broke. Okay what she meant was you can show it a halter and it won't kill itself fleeing from the halter and of course the horse had been haltered as a baby. I never knew there were so many levels of halter broke and versions. |
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Location: Kentucky | I bought my LHDI mare from RockinAS sight unseen. I don't even think we spoke on the phone, did the entire transaction via email! Great experience, and love the mare. I think you just have to buy from someone who has a great reputation, because there are a lot of shady horse people out there. |
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Location: Desert Land | I have bought a lot sight unseen and not had any issues. I ask a lot of questions, expect pics, videos (if riding / sound). Also do your homework on the seller. |
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Location: Kansas | TheOldGrayMare - 2014-10-16 1:18 PM I have bought a lot sight unseen and not had any issues. I ask a lot of questions, expect pics, videos (if riding / sound). Also do your homework on the seller.
This I agree on.....google and facebook are pretty good about finding out how a person is!! |
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| Yes, I have twice. The first one I bought from a very well known barrel racer and it turned out great! The second one, I bought from a broker. Although she wasn't expensive, it seemed like the broker just wanted to sell her and really didn't care or know about her past. I don't think I will do the second one again. You need to know all you can about the horses past, the type of style they have and if you can even get with that style...etc! |
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Location: Midland, MI | Yes I bought a 2yo from a girl I met on here and we became great friends and talked and texted A LOT!!!! She started putting some horses up for sale, very well bred and I said boy if I had the money I would totally buy your filly. My fiance said if you want her lets go and get her this weekend. I was sent a few pics and drove 8hrs with my trailer, went out to dinner and loaded her up and came home! But I knew pretty well who I was dealing with and the quality of horses she has.
But if it's from a stranger it is so easy to do your homework, just put some effort into it. Yes facebook is a great way to do some honest research. If it's a running horse, go to the associations where the horse has ran and look up the results for validation. Get references. Get videos, find out the sale horses time and the winning time and how many entries. Look up some of the other competitors too and where they run at. You could be looking at a smoking local 5 event show horse but never clocks at a rodeo 2 hours away with bigger competition. Know who they run against. Get previous vet records and definitely get your own exam done. |
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Location: Wild Wild West | I bought the mare I'm riding right now, sight unseen. I saw videos, did a lot of research and checked on everything. I couldn't have made a better choice had I went and rode her before. |
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Location: Gainesville, TX | Bought two broodmares this way. Worked out great. I did have a vet check provision. |
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Location: OH | Bought our one stallion sight unseen as a baby. I had seen quite a few full siblings prior to this though and when this certain mare dropped a colt I knew I wanted him. |
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | I have bought a bunch of broodmares. We always get current pictures, especially of feet. If they are open we have repro checks done. I have never been burned on a broodmare yet.
I bought a yearling HUS prospect with no vet check and off pictures only. He showed up and I loved him. He had recently been trimmed and looked pretty good, and as they grew out you could see more and more that he toes out. I try and keep him up and he is fine. If he stays sound (no problem of the seller) I think he will be wonderful.
Anything I buy in the future to ride will have a complete soundness exam though complete with a ton of x rays. |
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| TheOldGrayMare - 2014-10-16 1:18 PM
I have bought a lot sight unseen and not had any issues. I ask a lot of questions, expect pics, videos (if riding / sound). Also do your homework on the seller.
Agreed! We bought two broodmares from a guy and it was a great experience! Checked out his facebook and he had a very large, happy client base. Has worked out great. |
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Location: Beggs, OK | I bought one before it was ever even conceived.... |
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Location: East Texas | I had someone buy my house sight unseen. So does not seem to far fetched that someone would by a horse that way.
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Location: Kansas | Never in a million years would I do that but my friend did........Gawd-awful worse cribber ever.
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Location: Montana | rachellyn80 - 2014-10-16 2:40 PM
I bought one before it was ever even conceived....
When I saw the title of this thread, I wondered if "sight unseen" would include photos and videos or not.
Now I've decided that THIS is the real definition of sight unseen! 
We have bought horses we haven't seen in person. With and without vet checks. Bought two studs this year - a son of Dash For Perks and a son of Seattle Slew - with vet checks and without seeing them first. I don't just like these horses, I am in love with them. We darn sure could not have gotten luckier with either.
Over the years I'd have to say that horses we have bought without seeing them haven't been more likely to turn out better or worse than those we have seen first. Often I think auctions can be the best place to get screwed. That said we have bought a few mares at HP that have been incredible.
Have to admit that reading these comments makes me wish I liked spending time on FB more . . . but geeze i just do not like it. |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | I've had it go both ways. Will never buy another broke horse without riding first. The yearling I traded for sight unseen is my favorite horse to ride. |
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| No finished horses only young horses. Bought a daughter of little corona that was broke to ride for 3500.00. About 13/14 years ago i knew a lady who had a full sister to a good horse a friend had, they said they where gonna sell her, there trainer told then she was gonna be too small, i said yes. She is 15 hand and 1250 lb. She turned out to be a 1-d horse and they told me a few years back they regretted selling her. She was a nice mare. I was however horrified at her feet she had one underslung heal and 8 inch toe back the imused a wedge on that foot, i retired her because she messed her stifle up. But i bet in 10 year i did not knock over ten barrels.
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Location: western Nebraska | I guess I am the winner or loser here. I have 10 horses here right now and bought 8 of them without seeing them. Several I saw videos of though. I bought them and had them sent. I knew most of them had problems-some were mental but most were physical that caused the mental meltdown. I figured most of them were a 1-2 year project. Some I am thrilled with -some I think -what the heck was I thinking!! But when it works and they smoke a run it sure is a great day. We have also bought some calf horses that way but my husband is quite a bit more particular than I am. |
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| Yes, I have three friends that all purchased sight unseen and they have turned out to be amazing horses! Two of them bough sight unseen and had them shipped to them without ever actually seeing the horse. The other purchased the horse, then drove 15 hours one way to pick it up, where she was able to ride it before taking it back home.
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Location: NW Arkansas | Murphy - 2014-10-16 12:18 PM I bought my LHDI mare from RockinAS sight unseen. I don't even think we spoke on the phone, did the entire transaction via email! Great experience, and love the mare. I think you just have to buy from someone who has a great reputation, because there are a lot of shady horse people out there.
I just bought a mare from Rockinas sight unseen, too. LOL! She was just as nice looking as her pics showed her to be. Now I need it to dry up enough so I can ride her this weekend. Rockinas posted a lot of pics and sent me videos of her. I wouldn't buy sight unseen from a stranger, though. I've met Rockinas and her husband at the BFA a couple of years ago. I know Rockinas wouldn't sell something didn't represent her brand well.  |
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Location: Canada | I've bought 8 horses sight unseen and only got to see them off the trailer.
Of the 8, I purchased 7 in private sales with no vet checks and I've been thrilled with them all. The 8th I purchased through a well known broker who flat out lied about the horse and it's history and had him vet checked and the vet was less then honest as well. The most expensive horse in the bunch and I was the least happy with him.
I will now only deal with the horses trainers/riders. I've learned over the years how to intensely research the history on a horse and how to ask questions in a way that tells me a lot about the horse.
I agree though Facebook is a great way to learn a lot about a seller. |
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Location: Somewhere between raising hell and Amazing Grace | Two of the horses I have in my barn right now I bought from Texas sight unseen. The older one I didn't even pick out. Kenny Nichols picked him out for me as a weanling. He's now my open 1D horse. The other I wasn't looking for. Came across a photo of him and bought him. |
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Location: Tulsa, Ok | I bought one from a horse trader sight unseen over the phone during a snow storm. I gave $1000 14 year old gelding. He did turn out to be a decent barrel and pole horse. He was very droppy and front endy and not really a style anyone at my house liked. My daughter hauled him for a summer and I ended up selling him for $3000. All in all not too bad a deal. |
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Location: N Texas | I wouldn't be as concerned about buying sight unseen for a baby or broodmare (neither of which I have any interest in right now), but for a horse I'm going to be riding, I have to ride it first. There have been several horses that had great ads, great videos, and great pics, but when I went to ride them, it was a definite "no". Not necessarily the horse's or owner's fault, I'm just particular about the kind of horses I like to ride, and it seems a lot of people think their horses are a lot better than they really are.
I need to make sure I click with a horse so that I actually have fun riding it. I don't want to dread heading out to the barn each day :)
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Location: South Texas | I have probably bought more than 50 horses this way from broodmares to colts and the 2 I am running that were already trained........only 2 bad deals on 2 cheap horses. One crooked legged broodmare and 1 four year old cribber..... Seller made the cribber right.....sold the broodmare......as a breeder and marketer of prospects I have sold over 100 horses sight unseen from $2000 broodmares to $20k Dash Ta Fame weanlngs and have never had issues arise from the buyers |
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Location: Deep South | Never bought finished horses sight unseen and never would, I'm not the type of rider that could jump on anything and run it to its full potential, I have to click with it.
Have bought prospects this way and it has worked out well so far. I always get a video, even if they know absolutely nothing, I want to see them move conformation pics, and I buy from reputable sellers. |
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Location: siberia it seems | I would only do it on yearlings or weanlings now. I bought a three year old gelding out of south carolina from a very well known name and had him shipped to colorado thinking I was getting a nice horse. The mistake I made was not getting a vet check right then as I gave him a couple weeks off to adjust and rest. First of all he was a cribber, but low and behold they had never seen him do it, I guess he learned it on the trailer ride here. secondly, I noticed a few wierd things in his riding the more I worked him on the pattern. I had him checked, and he had a career ending stifle injury. The vet that checked him is a pretty well known and respected lameness vet and said the way it looked to him, this horse had already been like this for sometime and was pre-existing when i got him. I ended up giving him a year off and just selling him for a ranch/riding horse at a loss since it is all he can do now. I learned my lesson on being that trusting and stupid, I would only take the chance now on youngsters that no one has hurt or messed up. |
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Location: siberia it seems | edited to add: my three year old was only just loping the pattern, no speed and had not been exhibitioned or anything and was already injured |
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Location: North Dakota | I bought a 2 yr old from Amy Laymon and kept my mare in training for 6 months with her, before I ever met either one of them. Love my mare! Amy did a wonderful job and I gained a new friend in the process! |
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Location: Oklahoma | That's the way I buy the majority of mine. I don't have time (nor can I afford) to fly all over the country trying horses. I figure if I don't get along with them, someone will, and I can sell them. I've been burned on a couple, but not lately. :) Edited to say: You can buy mine sight unseen, snoopy! lol
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Location: Central Montana | I have a couple of times now and probably will not do it again.
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Location: Texas | I buy all mine off breeding and a picture! Have always been happy and worked out awesome! In fact this Is the way I prefer to buy. |
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Location: Sunnyland Florida |
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Location: Where the stars at night are big and bright, TX | We live 878365238 miles from everything so we've bought many sight unseen. One I held my breath, sold off my show horses and thankfully he was a dream come true...until 7 months later when he died where he stood after his only known HYPP attack. I got a crash course on HYPP and crooked breeders during that process.
From there I had 2 with feet issues, one was a great mare but she had a wonky rear foot that didn't show up in photos. Went onto ranch work rather than using it to plant and pivot. Great mare just would have not lasted in the sport. The other is a gelding I have now. I don't know how in the hell they kept him sound at the track, he has the worst feet I've ever had to deal with. Shelly, unimaginably thin walls, a convex sole on one foot, and a heel that wants to crush in the blink of your eye. I saw him on racing videos and some photos. The videos were only 4 weeks old, so relatively recent and he looked fabulous...he crashed almost fatally after coming off the track before we got him - they didn't share any photos with me then lol. When I walked in his stall expecting to see this fit, glistening, bay horse, instead he was hanging his head, dead eyes, dragging 3 racing plates hanging by one nail each and not even landing on his foot anymore, he was a rack of bones and his coat was crunchy to the touch, it was completely sunburned to orange and he had open wounds all over, a wound and swelling on his withers, his head had lumps and open wounds all over it and he would cave his body down if you touched his loins. He looked like death warmed over, a horse for the knacker. You'd never guess it was the same horse, nothing looked the same, nothing. When I laid eyes on him I thought my husband was going to KILL me. My husband turned the corner, a sick look flashed across his face. I'm in tears and completely defeated, but when he could find the words, he said we can't possibly leave him here, he needs help, so we started the slow drive home. He collapsed the next day due to ulcers, the vet handed me a pack of Ulcerguard and told us to dig a hole. The horse was a freaking disaster. He has had 2 resections which took the better part of two years to grow out. We still battle the one wonky foot with the convex sole and crushy heel - and forever will have to keep up on it. I don't know why I bother, we have yet to be able to point him in a specific direction. I won't buy anymore OTT's without seeing them in person. My parents used to all the time as they had a H/J business but we had an agent who gave us good leads and got them through the worst of it. I thought perhaps I was safe with this one since his race videos were so recent. This guy was advertised as "ready to go"...ugh apparently they meant "ready to go from our feed and vet bill to yours". LOL
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| Bought three sight unseen....its a great way to meet dishonest people, lol. Two others I planned to buy that way, but ended up getting to try them first, Would have been just fine unseen as the person was honest. Its a chance you take... |
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| I have bought about 20-30 ost 8-10 yeas ago only had one that has a soundnes issue. Rode some for other people 3/4 of them had soundnes problems. But if i kept my price low i always could take them for 30 days and come out ahead. Now i had a special effort gelding was a wierd guy after about 30 days that sucker would buck some days and not other, then some days he would lope a circle to left and not rights without a bunch of crap. Made money on him but he never amounted to anything. Had a bad attitude. Never wanted another. But most horse try and dont buck. After 45 days you can get a halfway broke horse loping barrels. Been a little long and most of my started horses are all retired now. L love working with young horses and seeing them improve and grow.
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Location: Kansas | I have not bought without seeing and or trying them but have sold a few babies sight unseen to people. |
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Location: Royal J Performance Horses, AZ | i would ONLY ever buy broodmares sight unseen. and I have twice. and was VERY HAPPY with it.
One of them i bought they said was sound for riding, I had the vet out this week turns out she has some navicular changes but nothing serious so we'll she how she goes, BUT it doesnt matter to me. The horse is AAAT and ran over $35,000 and is built so darn nice. So if she's only a broodmare, I have absolutely no problem with that.
I got such a darn good deal on her also it doesnt bother me either way.
I would NEVER buy a horse i'm going to ride/run sight unseen. You just cant know if the horse will mesh with you and be exactly what you want. |
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Location: Illinois | The mare I just got a week ago I traded for sight unseen and have never been happier. It was the best thing I could have ever done, she is amazing and everything the lady said she was. I honestly think I got the better end of the deal in the trade.
Now with that in mind I have gotten burned a few times too. I purchased two horses that were very well bred from a friend of ours and were told they were kid safe and wonderful horses. We just went down and picked them up and took them at their word. They didn't mention that they had sat in the pasture for two years. One of them was a real sweet horse but every time I rode him and asked him to lope he would go into a bucking fit and try to kill me, got a nice broken finger out of that one that is still crooked. The other one was so freaking lazy you couldn't do anything with him.. and when you asked him to do anything he would get pissed off and start bucking. Needless to say those two went down the road real quick.
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| I have never bought sight unseen. The only way I would is if I had a very good friend whose horse opinion I respected a lot who could go try them for me. OR from a seller I already know very well and trust. I'm talking more than a decade worth of friendship here. |
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| When I was pretty green in barrel horses...I bought my mom a horse from the sister of a horse trader "friend." When he got here, he had a knot on his ankle that they SWORE they told me about. No way in heck I'd have bought him without xrays if I'd known that. But he ended up being a really good horse for my mom.
Fast forward about 7 or 8 years. The horse is sore and I convince my mom to send him with me to the vet for exam and hock/ankle injections if he needs them.
Lameness exam starts off by flexing that ankle with the knot. Oh yeah, horse can't even walk after he does that. X-ray it and find at LEAST 7 fractures in there, and what looks like a couple more that have healed.
Sure, he was born with it. Yeah, right. Most likely he was kicked or kicked through a fence. Vet said that horse has the most heart he's ever seen because that horse should be packing that leg, much less RUNNING on it.
My mother is heartbroken. She adores that horse.
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Location: Kansas | luvinrunnin - 2014-10-24 12:00 PM When I was pretty green in barrel horses...I bought my mom a horse from the sister of a horse trader "friend." When he got here, he had a knot on his ankle that they SWORE they told me about. No way in heck I'd have bought him without xrays if I'd known that. But he ended up being a really good horse for my mom.
Fast forward about 7 or 8 years. The horse is sore and I convince my mom to send him with me to the vet for exam and hock/ankle injections if he needs them.
Lameness exam starts off by flexing that ankle with the knot. Oh yeah, horse can't even walk after he does that. X-ray it and find at LEAST 7 fractures in there, and what looks like a couple more that have healed.
Sure, he was born with it. Yeah, right. Most likely he was kicked or kicked through a fence. Vet said that horse has the most heart he's ever seen because that horse should be packing that leg, much less RUNNING on it.
My mother is heartbroken. She adores that horse.
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| The vet said 4 months small paddock rest and recheck to see if anything has fused. I highly doubt that it will if it hasn't after this long.
I hate it for my mom because she can't afford to buy another well patterned, safe barrel horse and neither can I. She has another horse to run, for now, but he's older as well, and I have been running him for 2 years because he is SO strong going in the pen, so I don't know how well that's going to work out.
Oh yeah, the seller said "he was born with it." when I asked about it. Yeah, right.
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Location: Kansas | luvinrunnin - 2014-10-24 12:57 PM The vet said 4 months small paddock rest and recheck to see if anything has fused. I highly doubt that it will if it hasn't after this long.
I hate it for my mom because she can't afford to buy another well patterned, safe barrel horse and neither can I. She has another horse to run, for now, but he's older as well, and I have been running him for 2 years because he is SO strong going in the pen, so I don't know how well that's going to work out.
Oh yeah, the seller said "he was born with it." when I asked about it. Yeah, right.
What an A-hole that seller is!!! I hope things get worked out for your mom, I hate when sellers take advantage of good people!!! |
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| hoofs_in_motion - 2014-10-24 1:04 PM luvinrunnin - 2014-10-24 12:57 PM The vet said 4 months small paddock rest and recheck to see if anything has fused. I highly doubt that it will if it hasn't after this long.
I hate it for my mom because she can't afford to buy another well patterned, safe barrel horse and neither can I. She has another horse to run, for now, but he's older as well, and I have been running him for 2 years because he is SO strong going in the pen, so I don't know how well that's going to work out.
Oh yeah, the seller said "he was born with it." when I asked about it. Yeah, right.
What an A-hole that seller is!!! I hope things get worked out for your mom, I hate when sellers take advantage of good people!!!
Me too. She told me if she couldn't run him again she'd probably have to quit. That breaks my heart. I bought this horse for her after her being out of riding for 35 years and it's the ONLY thing she enjoys for herself. |
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| I stink at picking horses. I left it up to my trainer, and he's one of the best guys I've ever owned. He even broke my knee the first time I made a run on him.....in practice on a plastic barrel...he's still awesome. Bought another FWF bred colt, he's awesome but has some issues that we'e have never known about without running him for a time, but the price was right. Frankly, with what we do with horses in this discipline, it's sort of a crap shoot no matter what you do....and I'm usually a vet check the crap out of them type of person. |
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Location: Southeast, Texas | We bought our yearling colt sight unseen, from MILES away!! His owner was a BB, Erin Chrisman-Goings. We got EXACTLY what she said he was, and are thrilled about him. He was also transported down from Nebraska by fellow BB's, Amy Schimke and Lisa Kuhlmann, with updates the entire way. I've never felt more comfortable about a transaction than I did knowing these ladies were helping handle it!! [= They are all three breeders that I would buy from again, sight unseen. |
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