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Location: Willows, CA | These are very different products that both have some amount of rice bran and flax. Empower Boost contains corn and soy bean oil, and has a higher amount of NSC. Renew Gold uses no corn or soy products, and uses Coconut for it's antibiotic and anti-inflamitory properties. They function very differently in the horses system. Empower can provide additional calories if that is your goal. RG reprograms the digestive system for more complete use of what the horse eats. |
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Location: Willows, CA | Most people feed one pound per day. High stress or young growing horses in training may be at 1.5 pounds per day. This usually replaces three to five pounds of conventional performance horse feed. This means that one bag of Renew Gold will last 20 to 30 days.
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| I have been doing a lot of research because I would like to tweak our young horses ration, and Renew Gold is something I am looking into. Here is my very dumb question that I am too embarassed to call the company and ask:
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Location: Willows, CA | SoFast - 2014-10-18 8:06 AM
I have been doing a lot of research because I would like to tweak our young horses ration, and Renew Gold is something I am looking into. Here is my very dumb question that I am too embarassed to call the company and ask:
IS THIS A SUPPLEMENT OR MEANT TO FEED ALONE? Honestly I have read labels and all over the internet and I cannot find where it says whether or not this was meant to be fed alone or supplemented with grain?
This is the most asked question, and the answer is yes. It is a feed or a supplement. It depends on the quality if your roughage, hay or pasture. Renew Gold improves digestion of the whole diet, but, we can only get what is there. If the roughage is of high quality then most people do not feed additional feed. If quality is low, additional concentrate can be used, but at a much lower rate than before that then fits the digestive system better. Call us, we are real horse people who love to help. |
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| winwillows - 2014-10-18 10:01 AM
SoFast - 2014-10-18 8:06 AM
I have been doing a lot of research because I would like to tweak our young horses ration, and Renew Gold is something I am looking into. Here is my very dumb question that I am too embarassed to call the company and ask:
IS THIS A SUPPLEMENT OR MEANT TO FEED ALONE? Honestly I have read labels and all over the internet and I cannot find where it says whether or not this was meant to be fed alone or supplemented with grain?
This is the most asked question, and the answer is yes. It is a feed or a supplement. It depends on the quality if your roughage, hay or pasture. Renew Gold improves digestion of the whole diet, but, we can only get what is there. If the roughage is of high quality then most people do not feed additional feed. If quality is low, additional concentrate can be used, but at a much lower rate than before that then fits the digestive system better. Call us, we are real horse people who love to help.
Ahh, thank you! I will certainly call, and look forward to speaking with someone further about this. Thank you for making me feel better about my "dumb question" too. Ha! |
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| Barrelhorsehelp1 - 2017-02-21 11:07 AM
Any else have any suggestions?? I like the empower horses look great but I hear such awesome things about renew gold??
I recently switched from Nutrena to Renew Gold. My mare struggled with digestive problems for a good while. She'd been on supplements to help, and they did, but switching to RG gave her the extra push she needed to make her look and feel 100%. She got comment after comment on how much better she was working this past weekend, and I got asked what I had changed. The only change from the last run she made to this last weekend was the feed switch. I'm sold on RG. |
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Location: Got Lobsta? | I fed Empower for quite some time. My horse had a very bad case of ulcers and I changed my whole feed program and just feed RG and hay. Thought I was going to starve my horses, but they look awesome. I use it as a feed not a supplement. I feed 1 pound per day.  |
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this isn't OP... I just rebumped the thread to see some more answers... I'm thinking about switching my 7 yr old to renew gold instead of empower boost. |
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Location: West Texas | Empower Boost has less than ideal ingredients in my opinion. The flax content is more there for looks than anything. It serves almost no purpose.
As far as the Senior feed deal mentioned above, there is no special nutrition needs for a senior horse. Life stage feeds are basically a marketing ploy. Senior feeds work the same for all classes of horses.
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| TBone - 2014-10-17 10:31 AM
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| What do you suggest for an ulcer prone horse currently on r g alfalfa hay and Redmond salt? The horse was treated with gastro guard |
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| I also wanted to see what WinWillows thought about adding Manna Pros rice bran pellets or nuggets to the renew gold feeding...my hard keeper during running season needs a few more calories, looks pretty darn good on RG, however we are limited to pasture, and mostly grass hay, so I was thinking of adding either Alfalfa cubes or stabilized rice bran or both? |
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Location: Beggs, OK | tin can - 2017-02-21 7:52 PM What do you suggest for an ulcer prone horse currently on r g alfalfa hay and Redmond salt? The horse was treated with gastro guard
A good digestive supplement will help more than anything. |
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| I just started buying Renew Gold. What sort of attitude changes have people been seeing? I too am interested if you can add a bit of extra rice bran. We have a senior who needs some extra calories so would this be a good way to do that rather than grain..? Thanks! Also for a pound measure.....how "big" is that? 1 lb. Margarine tub size? I need an easy measure.... |
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Location: Got Lobsta? | Wild1 - 2017-02-21 9:17 PM I also wanted to see what WinWillows thought about adding Manna Pros rice bran pellets or nuggets to the renew gold feeding...my hard keeper during running season needs a few more calories, looks pretty darn good on RG, however we are limited to pasture, and mostly grass hay, so I was thinking of adding either Alfalfa cubes or stabilized rice bran or both?
I need to add a bit more weight onto one of my horses. He recommended the Manna Pro Rice Bran. I started with pellets but they were $5.00 more per bag - went to the grandules - no problem he ate it right up. It helped but the weight on that I needed. |
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Location: Got Lobsta? | tin can - 2017-02-21 8:52 PM What do you suggest for an ulcer prone horse currently on r g alfalfa hay and Redmond salt? The horse was treated with gastro guard
I have an ulcer prone horse - went through the 30 day treatment ($3000!). When I switched to RG, fed with alfalfa pellets. I still treat with Ulcer Guard when hauling but I haven't had any problems since switching to RG. |
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Location: Got Lobsta? | sandygirl1 - 2017-02-22 7:51 AM I just started buying Renew Gold. What sort of attitude changes have people been seeing? I too am interested if you can add a bit of extra rice bran. We have a senior who needs some extra calories so would this be a good way to do that rather than grain..? Thanks! Also for a pound measure.....how "big" is that? 1 lb. Margarine tub size? I need an easy measure....
People have all kinds of suggestions for the weight of the grain. I actually bought a dog food pet scoop (its not very big). On scoop is almost exactly 1/2 pound. I've bought several and all come out the same weight, works great. I remember RG used to have feed cups they would send you - maybe you can get one from Win. |
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Location: South Dakota | SoFast - 2014-10-18 8:06 AM I have been doing a lot of research because I would like to tweak our young horses ration, and Renew Gold is something I am looking into. Here is my very dumb question that I am too embarassed to call the company and ask: IS THIS A SUPPLEMENT OR MEANT TO FEED ALONE? Honestly I have read labels and all over the internet and I cannot find where it says whether or not this was meant to be fed alone or supplemented with grain?
Don't feel bad. I was so excited when our local feed store started carrying it but I wasn't sure exactly what to do with it when I got it. It doesn't seem to have the vitamins that Woody's Summer Heat does so I wasn't sure if I'd need to add something? I've got one horse in particular that I'd really like to feed it to. |
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Location: MN | gunner07 - 2017-02-21 6:04 PM TBone - 2014-10-17 10:31 AM Love my Renew Gold... even at $33/bag! I got charged $38 a bag from my feed store
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Location: God's country...aka TEXAS | Timber Creek - 2017-02-22 10:35 AM
SoFast - 2014-10-18 8:06 AM I have been doing a lot of research because I would like to tweak our young horses ration, and Renew Gold is something I am looking into. Here is my very dumb question that I am too embarassed to call the company and ask: IS THIS A SUPPLEMENT OR MEANT TO FEED ALONE? Honestly I have read labels and all over the internet and I cannot find where it says whether or not this was meant to be fed alone or supplemented with grain?
Don't feel bad. I was so excited when our local feed store started carrying it but I wasn't sure exactly what to do with it when I got it. It doesn't seem to have the vitamins that Woody's Summer Heat does so I wasn't sure if I'd need to add something? I've got one horse in particular that I'd really like to feed it to.
Call and talk to Win about the renew gold. He told me that it has all the vitamins they need, so unless you live in an area with a specific deficiency, they don't need anything else. |
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Location: Way up North | Kay-DRacing. - 2017-02-22 11:53 AM gunner07 - 2017-02-21 6:04 PM TBone - 2014-10-17 10:31 AM Love my Renew Gold... even at $33/bag! I got charged $38 a bag from my feed store
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | sandygirl1 - 2017-02-22 6:51 AM I just started buying Renew Gold. What sort of attitude changes have people been seeing? I too am interested if you can add a bit of extra rice bran. We have a senior who needs some extra calories so would this be a good way to do that rather than grain..? Thanks! Also for a pound measure.....how "big" is that? 1 lb. Margarine tub size? I need an easy measure....
Find a scoop you like and weigh it on a kitchen scale empty and filled. Make a mark as needed. |
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Location: South Dakota | JLBerry - 2017-02-22 12:23 PM
Timber Creek - 2017-02-22 10:35 AM
SoFast - 2014-10-18 8:06 AM I have been doing a lot of research because I would like to tweak our young horses ration, and Renew Gold is something I am looking into. Here is my very dumb question that I am too embarassed to call the company and ask: IS THIS A SUPPLEMENT OR MEANT TO FEED ALONE? Honestly I have read labels and all over the internet and I cannot find where it says whether or not this was meant to be fed alone or supplemented with grain?
Don't feel bad. I was so excited when our local feed store started carrying it but I wasn't sure exactly what to do with it when I got it. It doesn't seem to have the vitamins that Woody's Summer Heat does so I wasn't sure if I'd need to add something? I've got one horse in particular that I'd really like to feed it to.
Call and talk to Win about the renew gold. He told me that it has all the vitamins they need, so unless you live in an area with a specific deficiency, they don't need anything else.
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I feed RG with Haystack Special Blend pellets and Triple Crown Flax Seed Meal. My 4 yr old gets the muscle mass as well.
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Location: Willows, CA | Sorry to be slow replying to this thread. I have been in Jury Duty.
As to adding additional concentrates to Renew Gold, that depends on the quality of your roughage. We always try to do as much as we can nutritionally with the roughage portion of the diet. After that, you want to support that diet in the most compact, least disruptive way. Most of our customers do not feed additional concentrates with Renew Gold in the diet. One of the advantages of the program is improved digestive efficiency through the whole system. In addition, you get reduced inflammation through out the digestive tract, and more complete digestion of the roughage in the hind gut. Doing this brings efficiency to water soluble vitamin production, and supplies fat soluble vitamins that the horse can't make.
This is all great unless your hay or pasture is very poor. We can only help get the nutrition out that is there. In the case of poor roughage, you are better of to spend your money on better hay than additional concentrates. Hay calories are the safe, natural calories. This can be in the form of long hay or cubes. Pellets are the next choice and still better than many concentrate feeds. As long as the horses teeth care is up to date, (those of you who have talked to me know that I really stress this), and parasites are under control you should be good to go. If this does not work well for your horse, there is something else going on that we can usually identify if we have a chance to visit on the phone. We do encourage that contact with any questions.
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| Win is there a reason the price is all over the place with Renew Gold? Ive seen 1-2 dollar differences on other feeds but $10 is a lot, I understand this isn't your doing Im just wondering if you have any insight? |
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| gunner07 - 2017-02-23 10:38 AM
Win is there a reason the price is all over the place with Renew Gold? Ive seen 1-2 dollar differences on other feeds but $10 is a lot, I understand this isn't your doing Im just wondering if you have any insight?
No kidding! After I started feeding it, it went up EXPONENTIALLY, now my mare won't touch it and I have almost a whole bag I'm going to have to dump out - she won't even eat it mixed with other feed and/or oats. One day she just wouldn't touch it - and yes, she's been treated for ulcers. |
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Location: Got Lobsta? | gunner07 - 2017-02-23 11:38 AM Win is there a reason the price is all over the place with Renew Gold? Ive seen 1-2 dollar differences on other feeds but $10 is a lot, I understand this isn't your doing Im just wondering if you have any insight?
I know this question was asked of Win but I can let you know my experience. When it first came out I went through a local feed store that priced it at $55.00 per bag. He was getting the supply through a distributor who was than getting it from RG so that was the mark up. I did pay the $55 a bag for quite some time, than a different feed store offered it to me for $46 a bag. When TS decided to carry it throughout their stores I got the $29.99 a bag. I've been feeding it for 2 years now on 5 horses. |
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Location: Got Lobsta? | Griz - 2017-02-23 12:11 PM gunner07 - 2017-02-23 10:38 AM Win is there a reason the price is all over the place with Renew Gold? Ive seen 1-2 dollar differences on other feeds but $10 is a lot, I understand this isn't your doing Im just wondering if you have any insight? No kidding! After I started feeding it, it went up EXPONENTIALLY, now my mare won't touch it and I have almost a whole bag I'm going to have to dump out - she won't even eat it mixed with other feed and/or oats. One day she just wouldn't touch it - and yes, she's been treated for ulcers.
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| Both products are just marked up rice bran. Although this is not necessarily a bad addition to the horse's feed, it is definitely not the economical way to feed it. Most feed mills sell rice bran for $6-$10 per 50lb. The added flax seed in both products, although better, is no where near where it needs to be. You can see this by comparing the ratio of omega 3 to omega 6 fatty acids. You want more omega 3s. If you are going to spend this much, buy milled flax seed and feed half as much. You will see 2x the benefit and your horse will be better off for it. |
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Location: Willows, CA | Horsebill - 2017-02-23 2:59 PM
Both products are just marked up rice bran. Although this is not necessarily a bad addition to the horse's feed, it is definitely not the economical way to feed it. Most feed mills sell rice bran for $6-$10 per 50lb. The added flax seed in both products, although better, is no where near where it needs to be. You can see this by comparing the ratio of omega 3 to omega 6 fatty acids. You want more omega 3s. If you are going to spend this much, buy milled flax seed and feed half as much. You will see 2x the benefit and your horse will be better off for it.
I am not too sure where to start here, so I will start at the top.
Rice Bran first. Assuming raw rice bran purchased from the mill for "$6 to $10 dollars for 50lb" is the same as Food grade Stabilized Rice Bran used in premium animal food products is like comparing high quality hay to the manure created after that same hay has been through the horse. Raw rice bran is ALWAYS a rancid waste product that should not be fed to horses. There is no exception to this. I invented the application of stabilizing rice bran for use in horses in the 1980's because there was no way to get raw rice bran from the mill to the horse without it becoming both rancid and nutritionally ruined before you could do so. I could have saved myself a fortune if I could have made raw rice bran safely work. It doesn't.
Saying omega 3 should always be higher than omega 6 in every component of the diet is missing the point that the entire diet is to be considered, not one component. Added stabilized flax is in Renew Gold in the ratio included for a number of reasons. Only one of those reasons, while still important, concerns the specific ratio to provide the proper overall omega 6 to omega 3 level in the entire recommended diet. High grain based diets my well benefit from higher omega 3 inclusions than Renew Gold provides. However a Renew Gold diet replaces that high grain inclusion along with the massive omega 6 contribution that the grain provides thus requiring much less added omega 3 to hit the proper OVERALL balance when the contribution of the omega 3 that is found in the roughage portion of the diet is considered.
Milled Flax seed if not stabilized will also be rancid quickly, though stabilized flax can be a benefit when used properly. If you insist in feeding straight flax seed meal, mill your own daily. Feeding this alone misses a lot of additional values found in both the coconut (anti bacterial effect and inflammation reduction high in the digestive system), and food grade stabilized rice bran (several of the most potent types of vitamin E found in nature and gamma oryzanol among others) when provided along with the three types of vegetable fat. In addition to this you get a proprietary pre biotic.
This is not the same a raw rice bran or milled flax seed, and certainly not half as effective.
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Location: Willows, CA | gunner07 - 2017-02-23 10:38 AM
Win is there a reason the price is all over the place with Renew Gold? Ive seen 1-2 dollar differences on other feeds but $10 is a lot, I understand this isn't your doing Im just wondering if you have any insight?
There are a number of regional distribution systems that buy in very small amounts. One or two pallets at a time. like anything else, the more you buy the more you save. Freight is the biggest cost issue in these cases. When a distribution system only buys a few pallets at a time, they pay top price (LTL) for freight. This is added to the wholesale price that they charge the store. If the store then only buys a few bags at a time, they pay the highest price plus higher freight again per bag. They then add that to the retail price. It does not take long for all these top price and high freight combinations to raise the retail price a lot. While it is illegal for us to tell a store what to charge, we do encourage them to order from a distributor that offers volume discount pricing and better freight allowance, and to buy enough at a time to take advantage of those discounts. When you pay $10 more for a bag of Renew Gold from one store compared to another, I do not make a penny more. I have always said that the best way to have the best pricing for the customer is to have another store selling it down the street. They both find a balance at that point, and the end customer will benefit. |
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Location: Northwest | gunner07 - 2017-02-21 4:04 PM
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Love my Renew Gold... even at $33/bag!
I got charged $38 a bag from my feed store
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| Mainer-racer - 2017-02-23 11:21 AM
Griz - 2017-02-23 12:11 PM gunner07 - 2017-02-23 10:38 AM Win is there a reason the price is all over the place with Renew Gold? Ive seen 1-2 dollar differences on other feeds but $10 is a lot, I understand this isn't your doing Im just wondering if you have any insight? No kidding! After I started feeding it, it went up EXPONENTIALLY, now my mare won't touch it and I have almost a whole bag I'm going to have to dump out - she won't even eat it mixed with other feed and/or oats. One day she just wouldn't touch it - and yes, she's been treated for ulcers.
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Location: Willows, CA | The most consistent pricing is at TSC. Usually very close to $30 per bag across the country. Feed stores that are buying more than a few bags at a time can be pretty close to that price also depending on what else they buy from the distributor to maximize freight value. Obviously, this works out to about $1 per day per horse at one pound. Most horse owners are replacing three to five pounds of conventional grain based feed with one pound of Renew Gold because of the changes it causes in digestive efficiency. This makes it pretty easy to compare cost. Even if you are paying as much as $36 per bag, that is still $1.20 per day per horse. Comparing that to what three to five pounds of your previous conventional feed costs will show that in most cases Renew Gold is a lower cost program per horse, per month.
As I mentioned above, We have absolutely no input on what a store charges for our products, as every distributor pays the same for it with the same volume discounts based on the volume that they buy.
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The most consistent pricing is at TSC. Usually very close to $30 per bag across the country. Feed stores that are buying more than a few bags at a time can be pretty close to that price also depending on what else they buy from the distributor to maximize freight value. Obviously, this works out to about $1 per day per horse at one pound. Most horse owners are replacing three to five pounds of conventional grain based feed with one pound of Renew Gold because of the changes it causes in digestive efficiency. This makes it pretty easy to compare cost. Even if you are paying as much as $36 per bag, that is still $1.20 per day per horse. Comparing that to what three to five pounds of your previous conventional feed costs will show that in most cases Renew Gold is a lower cost program per horse, per month.
As I mentioned above, We have absolutely no input on what a store charges for our products, as every distributor pays the same for it with the same volume discounts based on the volume that they buy.
Off topic a little, but I wanted to ask you about replacing regular stabilized rice bran with RG---is this ok to do? My old guy is on Purina Senior Active, beet pulp, rice bran, and Platinum CJ. |
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Location: Willows, CA | Chandler's Mom - 2017-02-24 9:42 PM
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The most consistent pricing is at TSC. Usually very close to $30 per bag across the country. Feed stores that are buying more than a few bags at a time can be pretty close to that price also depending on what else they buy from the distributor to maximize freight value. Obviously, this works out to about $1 per day per horse at one pound. Most horse owners are replacing three to five pounds of conventional grain based feed with one pound of Renew Gold because of the changes it causes in digestive efficiency. This makes it pretty easy to compare cost. Even if you are paying as much as $36 per bag, that is still $1.20 per day per horse. Comparing that to what three to five pounds of your previous conventional feed costs will show that in most cases Renew Gold is a lower cost program per horse, per month.
As I mentioned above, We have absolutely no input on what a store charges for our products, as every distributor pays the same for it with the same volume discounts based on the volume that they buy.
Off topic a little, but I wanted to ask you about replacing regular stabilized rice bran with RG---is this ok to do? My old guy is on Purina Senior Active, beet pulp, rice bran, and Platinum CJ.
Yes, Renew Gold was developed to be an evolution from straight Stabilized Rice Bran. It is slightly less energy dense, but improves digestive efficiency throughout the entire system for a better overall result. |
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Location: Willows, CA | sandygirl1 - 2017-02-25 12:45 PM
Win Willows.... Question on freshness....the date printed on the top of the bag....manufacture date? I just bought some with May 2016 printed on it. How long does a sealed bag stay fresh for?
That dating on the top strip of the new bags is a frustration. It is the manufacturing date that the bags were made, not the Renew Gold inside. We are asking the bag company to use a different ID system for future print runs. |
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winwillows - 2017-02-24 12:33 PM
The most consistent pricing is at TSC. Usually very close to $30 per bag across the country. Feed stores that are buying more than a few bags at a time can be pretty close to that price also depending on what else they buy from the distributor to maximize freight value. Obviously, this works out to about $1 per day per horse at one pound. Most horse owners are replacing three to five pounds of conventional grain based feed with one pound of Renew Gold because of the changes it causes in digestive efficiency. This makes it pretty easy to compare cost. Even if you are paying as much as $36 per bag, that is still $1.20 per day per horse. Comparing that to what three to five pounds of your previous conventional feed costs will show that in most cases Renew Gold is a lower cost program per horse, per month.
As I mentioned above, We have absolutely no input on what a store charges for our products, as every distributor pays the same for it with the same volume discounts based on the volume that they buy.
Off topic a little, but I wanted to ask you about replacing regular stabilized rice bran with RG---is this ok to do? My old guy is on Purina Senior Active, beet pulp, rice bran, and Platinum CJ.
Yes, Renew Gold was developed to be an evolution from straight Stabilized Rice Bran. It is slightly less energy dense, but improves digestive efficiency throughout the entire system for a better overall result.
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Location: The Lone Star State | now its 59.99 a bag! i am going to seriously have to find an alternative even if you only feed 1 lb a day. gheez |
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Location: Willows, CA | Ticktock - 2024-05-30 10:07 AM
now its 59.99 a bag! i am going to seriously have to find an alternative even if you only feed 1 lb a day. gheez
We can not tell a store what they can charge, but there is No reason for Original Renew Gold to be priced anywhere near that price unless you are ordering online and paying shipping to your house. If fact, since we terminated Manna Pro's contract on January 1st the price should have gone down significantly. Some stores who order from regional distribution don't even realize that they are paying less when the order a delivery that includes lots of other products. Give us a call at 530 934 9300 and we will find you a better deal. Also consider that if you are feeding a name brand grain based feed at 4 pounds per day, which Renew Gold would replace with one pound per day, you are still paying more per horse per month. Still there is no reason for a feed store to charge that price for Renew Gold since the price dropped by about 25% to the distributors. Win |
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Location: the end of the rainbow | Ticktock - 2024-05-30 8:07 AM
now its 59.99 a bag! i am going to seriously have to find an alternative even if you only feed 1 lb a day. gheez
Ouch. I thought the 44$ a bag at my local TSC was getting out of hand. |
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Location: Willows, CA | willrodeo4food - 2024-05-31 12:11 PM Ticktock - 2024-05-30 8:07 AM now its 59.99 a bag! i am going to seriously have to find an alternative even if you only feed 1 lb a day. gheez Ouch. I thought the 44$ a bag at my local TSC was getting out of hand. Renew Gold prices should be going down across the country. A check of Tractor Supply stores yesterday showed prices vary depending on region and shipping costs. It seems that most stores east of the Rockies are 39.99 for Renew Gold and 49.99 for Renew Gold Senior. This translates to $1.33 per day per head for RG and $1.67 per day for RG Senior. The Senior provides higher lysine, Vitamin C and Joint support for 34 cents per day more. All RG products are fixed formulation, no fillers, no vague byproducts and no corn, soy or wheat. West coast stores are priced higher due mostly to freight from our Ohio facility. We should see those prices will move down also. Independent stores on the West Coast should now be able to meet and in some cases beat TSC pricing if they choose to do so. This was not the case before January of this year. Since the Renew Gold distribution agreement with Manna Pro was terminated the price has slowly been trending down in most areas as the distribution systems and stores use up the the inventory that they bought from Manna Pro at a much higher price and are able to reflect the new much lower price that they now pay. We expect this trend to continue. Some stores have simply kept the savings and have not passed it on to customers. There is nothing that we can do about that other than try to help you find a better deal on Renew Gold. We are happy to try to do that. The prices for direct delivery that are linked to our web site renewgold.com were increased this week by a computer program mistake (not ours) and should be corrected right away. Those prices are freight included to your address, so they are higher as you might expect. We have no desire to compete with stocking stores that sell our line. However, there are a number of locations that either have no local stocking store, or simply are too far out of town to make the trip. In that case the link on our web site or Chewy can be solution to a long drive for just one bag or so. Our company does no direct sales to stores or customers and all goes through a distribution system, including the links to order online. Hope this help. Win
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Location: CTX | winwillows - 2024-05-31 1:12 PM
willrodeo4food - 2024-05-31 12:11 PM
Ticktock - 2024-05-30 8:07 AM
now its 59.99 a bag! i am going to seriously have to find an alternative even if you only feed 1 lb a day. gheez
Ouch. I thought the 44$ a bag at my local TSC was getting out of hand.
Renew Gold prices should be going down across the country. A check of Tractor Supply stores yesterday showed prices vary depending on region and shipping costs. It seems that most stores east of the Rockies are 39.99 for Renew Gold and 49.99 for Renew Gold Senior. This translates to $1.33 per day per head for RG and $1.67 per day for RG Senior. The Senior provides higher lysine, Vitamin C and Joint support for 34 cents per day more. All RG products are fixed formulation, no fillers, no vague byproducts and no corn, soy or wheat. West coast stores are priced higher due mostly to freight from our Ohio facility. We should see those prices will move down also. Independent stores on the West Coast should now be able to meet and in some cases beat TSC pricing if they choose to do so. This was not the case before January of this year.
Since the Renew Gold distribution agreement with Manna Pro was terminated the price has slowly been trending down in most areas as the distribution systems and stores use up the the inventory that they bought from Manna Pro at a much higher price and are able to reflect the new much lower price that they now pay. We expect this trend to continue. Some stores have simply kept the savings and have not passed it on to customers. There is nothing that we can do about that other than try to help you find a better deal on Renew Gold. We are happy to try to do that.
The prices for direct delivery that are linked to our web site renewgold.com were increased this week by a computer program mistake (not ours) and should be corrected right away. Those prices are freight included to your address, so they are higher as you might expect. We have no desire to compete with stocking stores that sell our line. However, there are a number of locations that either have no local stocking store, or simply are too far out of town to make the trip. In that case the link on our web site or Chewy can be solution to a long drive for just one bag or so.
Our company does no direct sales to stores or customers and all goes through a distribution system, including the links to order online.
Hope this help.
Win
Ours is $41.99 at the TSC in CTX, but if you do the subscription it drops down to $39.99. You can set the amount of bags and delivery schedule yourself. Not sure if it is everywhere, but they even ship it for free to my house. (I am top tier in the neighbor's club though, not sure it that has an impact on it.) |
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| winwillows - 2024-05-31 2:12 PM
willrodeo4food - 2024-05-31 12:11 PM
Ticktock - 2024-05-30 8:07 AM
now its 59.99 a bag! i am going to seriously have to find an alternative even if you only feed 1 lb a day. gheez
Ouch. I thought the 44$ a bag at my local TSC was getting out of hand.
Renew Gold prices should be going down across the country. A check of Tractor Supply stores yesterday showed prices vary depending on region and shipping costs. It seems that most stores east of the Rockies are 39.99 for Renew Gold and 49.99 for Renew Gold Senior. This translates to $1.33 per day per head for RG and $1.67 per day for RG Senior. The Senior provides higher lysine, Vitamin C and Joint support for 34 cents per day more. All RG products are fixed formulation, no fillers, no vague byproducts and no corn, soy or wheat. West coast stores are priced higher due mostly to freight from our Ohio facility. We should see those prices will move down also. Independent stores on the West Coast should now be able to meet and in some cases beat TSC pricing if they choose to do so. This was not the case before January of this year.
Since the Renew Gold distribution agreement with Manna Pro was terminated the price has slowly been trending down in most areas as the distribution systems and stores use up the the inventory that they bought from Manna Pro at a much higher price and are able to reflect the new much lower price that they now pay. We expect this trend to continue. Some stores have simply kept the savings and have not passed it on to customers. There is nothing that we can do about that other than try to help you find a better deal on Renew Gold. We are happy to try to do that.
The prices for direct delivery that are linked to our web site renewgold.com were increased this week by a computer program mistake (not ours) and should be corrected right away. Those prices are freight included to your address, so they are higher as you might expect. We have no desire to compete with stocking stores that sell our line. However, there are a number of locations that either have no local stocking store, or simply are too far out of town to make the trip. In that case the link on our web site or Chewy can be solution to a long drive for just one bag or so.
Our company does no direct sales to stores or customers and all goes through a distribution system, including the links to order online.
Hope this help.
Win
When will Chewy be back in stock with RG?? I get my chicken feed from Chewy and it would be great to get RG through them too. RG is 'out of stock' for all products. |
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Location: Willows, CA | lonely va barrelxr - 2024-06-02 7:53 PM
winwillows - 2024-05-31 2:12 PM
willrodeo4food - 2024-05-31 12:11 PM
Ticktock - 2024-05-30 8:07 AM
now its 59.99 a bag! i am going to seriously have to find an alternative even if you only feed 1 lb a day. gheez
Ouch. I thought the 44$ a bag at my local TSC was getting out of hand.
Renew Gold prices should be going down across the country. A check of Tractor Supply stores yesterday showed prices vary depending on region and shipping costs. It seems that most stores east of the Rockies are 39.99 for Renew Gold and 49.99 for Renew Gold Senior. This translates to $1.33 per day per head for RG and $1.67 per day for RG Senior. The Senior provides higher lysine, Vitamin C and Joint support for 34 cents per day more. All RG products are fixed formulation, no fillers, no vague byproducts and no corn, soy or wheat. West coast stores are priced higher due mostly to freight from our Ohio facility. We should see those prices will move down also. Independent stores on the West Coast should now be able to meet and in some cases beat TSC pricing if they choose to do so. This was not the case before January of this year.
Since the Renew Gold distribution agreement with Manna Pro was terminated the price has slowly been trending down in most areas as the distribution systems and stores use up the the inventory that they bought from Manna Pro at a much higher price and are able to reflect the new much lower price that they now pay. We expect this trend to continue. Some stores have simply kept the savings and have not passed it on to customers. There is nothing that we can do about that other than try to help you find a better deal on Renew Gold. We are happy to try to do that.
The prices for direct delivery that are linked to our web site renewgold.com were increased this week by a computer program mistake (not ours) and should be corrected right away. Those prices are freight included to your address, so they are higher as you might expect. We have no desire to compete with stocking stores that sell our line. However, there are a number of locations that either have no local stocking store, or simply are too far out of town to make the trip. In that case the link on our web site or Chewy can be solution to a long drive for just one bag or so.
Our company does no direct sales to stores or customers and all goes through a distribution system, including the links to order online.
Hope this help.
Win
When will Chewy be back in stock with RG?? I get my chicken feed from Chewy and it would be great to get RG through them too. RG is 'out of stock' for all products.
The Chewy shipping center is not out of stock, but they have had it maked as such on the web site. They never were out. This is what happens when computers run our world. I am trying to get them to fix it. I hope in a day or so. |
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Location: My Own Little World | We fed RenewGold in the past and really liked it but can't afford it anymore. It's $43.99 per bag at our TSC just isn't sustainable when you're feeding 6 |
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Location: Willows, CA | rodeorun68 - 2024-06-04 12:23 AM
We fed RenewGold in the past and really liked it but can't afford it anymore. It's $43.99 per bag at our TSC just isn't sustainable when you're feeding 6
How Renew Gold fits into your program depends on what else you are feeding. If you are feeding a grain based commercial feed at three or four pounds or more per day, you are likley paying more per horse per month than replacing that with Renew Gold for a better result. If you feed added joint support, (found in RG Senior and XTRA) a pro-biotic, a vitamin supplement or gastric support (all eliminated when feeding Renew Gold) you are paying a lot more. One 30 pound bag of Renew Gold at $45 will last a horse thirty days. Sometimes a yellow note pad and a Number 2 pencil will tell you exactly what your feed program costs. Some of the best rodeo barrel horses in the country are feeding 1 to 1.5 pounds of Renew Gold per day and hay, with no other energy source. I am not saying the Renew Gold is for everyone or every horse. However, when you really put a pencil to it, A Renew Gold diet is actually less money per horse. Mary Walker said it best when they went to Renew Gold for Ditto two years ago." I have been feeding horses wrong for 40 years". 6 head at 1.33 per day for one pound. $2.00 per day for 1.5 pounds = $239 to $299 total for all six of your horses per month plus hay. Are you spending more than that now? If you feed 4 pounds per day of an $25 / 50lb feed, that is $0.50 per pound = $2.00 per day or $360 per month for all six, not counting other supplements which are generally not necessary with Renew Gold. We are starting to see Renew Gold pricing go below $40 per bag in many areas, and we should see that trend continue as stores and distributors use up the Renew Gold that they purchased from Manna Pro at a higher price. We are no longer associated with Manna Pro, and the current price to distributors has gone done considerably. |
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Location: The Lone Star State | Just bought 2 bags of RG xtra they went up to $59.99 a bag! Gheez that's crazy even if I only feed 1 lb a day so frustrating. |
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| winwillows - 2024-06-03 12:32 PM
lonely va barrelxr - 2024-06-02 7:53 PM
winwillows - 2024-05-31 2:12 PM
willrodeo4food - 2024-05-31 12:11 PM
Ticktock - 2024-05-30 8:07 AM
now its 59.99 a bag! i am going to seriously have to find an alternative even if you only feed 1 lb a day. gheez
Ouch. I thought the 44$ a bag at my local TSC was getting out of hand.
Renew Gold prices should be going down across the country. A check of Tractor Supply stores yesterday showed prices vary depending on region and shipping costs. It seems that most stores east of the Rockies are 39.99 for Renew Gold and 49.99 for Renew Gold Senior. This translates to $1.33 per day per head for RG and $1.67 per day for RG Senior. The Senior provides higher lysine, Vitamin C and Joint support for 34 cents per day more. All RG products are fixed formulation, no fillers, no vague byproducts and no corn, soy or wheat. West coast stores are priced higher due mostly to freight from our Ohio facility. We should see those prices will move down also. Independent stores on the West Coast should now be able to meet and in some cases beat TSC pricing if they choose to do so. This was not the case before January of this year.
Since the Renew Gold distribution agreement with Manna Pro was terminated the price has slowly been trending down in most areas as the distribution systems and stores use up the the inventory that they bought from Manna Pro at a much higher price and are able to reflect the new much lower price that they now pay. We expect this trend to continue. Some stores have simply kept the savings and have not passed it on to customers. There is nothing that we can do about that other than try to help you find a better deal on Renew Gold. We are happy to try to do that.
The prices for direct delivery that are linked to our web site renewgold.com were increased this week by a computer program mistake (not ours) and should be corrected right away. Those prices are freight included to your address, so they are higher as you might expect. We have no desire to compete with stocking stores that sell our line. However, there are a number of locations that either have no local stocking store, or simply are too far out of town to make the trip. In that case the link on our web site or Chewy can be solution to a long drive for just one bag or so.
Our company does no direct sales to stores or customers and all goes through a distribution system, including the links to order online.
Hope this help.
Win
When will Chewy be back in stock with RG?? I get my chicken feed from Chewy and it would be great to get RG through them too. RG is 'out of stock' for all products.
The Chewy shipping center is not out of stock, but they have had it maked as such on the web site. They never were out. This is what happens when computers run our world. I am trying to get them to fix it. I hope in a day or so.
Chewy is working now to purchase RG! I was just about out with no realistic time to make it to TS any time soon, so big thanks to getting it back online WW! Price wise - I go through either 3 bags of 'other' feed at $31 per bag, or 2 bags of RG at $44 per bag, per month, per horse. But my big thing is that my ADHD horse cannot have grain or molassas, so not only is it basically the same cost, it fits in with my grain free alfalfa heavy feed program. I can honestly say Demon gets a ton of compliments on how she looks. So much of that is her feed program. She gets worked, but her feed program lets her turn it into true beauty. |
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Location: Willows, CA | lonely va barrelxr - 2024-06-05 6:58 AM
winwillows - 2024-06-03 12:32 PM
lonely va barrelxr - 2024-06-02 7:53 PM
winwillows - 2024-05-31 2:12 PM
willrodeo4food - 2024-05-31 12:11 PM
Ticktock - 2024-05-30 8:07 AM
now its 59.99 a bag! i am going to seriously have to find an alternative even if you only feed 1 lb a day. gheez
Ouch. I thought the 44$ a bag at my local TSC was getting out of hand.
Renew Gold prices should be going down across the country. A check of Tractor Supply stores yesterday showed prices vary depending on region and shipping costs. It seems that most stores east of the Rockies are 39.99 for Renew Gold and 49.99 for Renew Gold Senior. This translates to $1.33 per day per head for RG and $1.67 per day for RG Senior. The Senior provides higher lysine, Vitamin C and Joint support for 34 cents per day more. All RG products are fixed formulation, no fillers, no vague byproducts and no corn, soy or wheat. West coast stores are priced higher due mostly to freight from our Ohio facility. We should see those prices will move down also. Independent stores on the West Coast should now be able to meet and in some cases beat TSC pricing if they choose to do so. This was not the case before January of this year.
Since the Renew Gold distribution agreement with Manna Pro was terminated the price has slowly been trending down in most areas as the distribution systems and stores use up the the inventory that they bought from Manna Pro at a much higher price and are able to reflect the new much lower price that they now pay. We expect this trend to continue. Some stores have simply kept the savings and have not passed it on to customers. There is nothing that we can do about that other than try to help you find a better deal on Renew Gold. We are happy to try to do that.
The prices for direct delivery that are linked to our web site renewgold.com were increased this week by a computer program mistake (not ours) and should be corrected right away. Those prices are freight included to your address, so they are higher as you might expect. We have no desire to compete with stocking stores that sell our line. However, there are a number of locations that either have no local stocking store, or simply are too far out of town to make the trip. In that case the link on our web site or Chewy can be solution to a long drive for just one bag or so.
Our company does no direct sales to stores or customers and all goes through a distribution system, including the links to order online.
Hope this help.
Win
When will Chewy be back in stock with RG?? I get my chicken feed from Chewy and it would be great to get RG through them too. RG is 'out of stock' for all products.
The Chewy shipping center is not out of stock, but they have had it maked as such on the web site. They never were out. This is what happens when computers run our world. I am trying to get them to fix it. I hope in a day or so.
Chewy is working now to purchase RG! I was just about out with no realistic time to make it to TS any time soon, so big thanks to getting it back online WW!
Price wise - I go through either 3 bags of 'other' feed at $31 per bag, or 2 bags of RG at $44 per bag, per month, per horse. But my big thing is that my ADHD horse cannot have grain or molassas, so not only is it basically the same cost, it fits in with my grain free alfalfa heavy feed program.
I can honestly say Demon gets a ton of compliments on how she looks. So much of that is her feed program. She gets worked, but her feed program lets her turn it into true beauty.
Chewy has it in stock and available now. Win |
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Location: The Lone Star State | This was from Buffalo Corp Store that is linked to the Renew Gold website. I paid $59,99 for 2 bags a week ago now its 57.99. :( |
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Location: Willows, CA | Ticktock - 2024-06-06 8:38 AM
This was from Buffalo Corp Store that is linked to the Renew Gold website. I paid $59,99 for 2 bags a week ago now its 57.99. :(
Prices have been adjusted at Buffalo and includes freight to your address Renew Gold 30lb $49.99 Renew Gold Senior 30 lb $52.99 Renew Gold XTRA 33lb $57.99 Renew Gold Glo 7.5 lb Hoof Mane and Tail supplement $49.99 UPS freight on these runs on average about $20 per bag, and is included in this price. Your local store should be able to beat these prices, but some areas do not have a stocking store close enough to make using Renew Gold work. We will always support our stocking stores. Considering that these prices are delivered to your address, the prices still work when considering cost per horse per month compared to grain based feeds at a higher feed rate and make it easy to have it delivered to your door. |
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Location: The Lone Star State | The only place I can get Xtra is through your buffalo corp store. I wish TSC or Chewy would sell it, at least give us an option. $57.99 is too pricy. My horses have never looked better. It was 49.99 before it went out of stock now its 57.99 I get that includes shipping but I would much rather go to TSC to get it :) |
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Location: Willows, CA | Ticktock - 2024-06-08 3:13 PM
The only place I can get Xtra is through your buffalo corp store. I wish TSC or Chewy would sell it, at least give us an option. $57.99 is too pricy. My horses have never looked better. It was 49.99 before it went out of stock now its 57.99 I get that includes shipping but I would much rather go to TSC to get it :)
Renew Gold XTRA is in stock at Chewy right now at 49.99. Remember, it is a 10% larger bag. Regional Distributors also have it. Any store that sells any Renew Gold products can just add it to their order. Tractor Supply is not stocking XTRA at this time. |
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| Our renew gold senior went up $10.00. It's now $49.99. Don't know if we can continue to feed it. |
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Location: Willows, CA | okhorselover - 2024-06-12 10:02 AM
Our renew gold senior went up $10.00. It's now $49.99. Don't know if we can continue to feed it.
You might look at Renew Gold XTRA. 10% larger bag plus ulcer protection for the same price from most stores. That price is high for Senior unless they are delivering it to your house freight free. Win |
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| winwillows - 2024-06-19 12:17 PM
okhorselover - 2024-06-12 10:02 AM
Our renew gold senior went up $10.00. It's now $49.99. Don't know if we can continue to feed it.
You might look at Renew Gold XTRA. 10% larger bag plus ulcer protection for the same price from most stores. That price is high for Senior unless they are delivering it to your house freight free.
Win
Is the xtra the same or better than the senior. I like the way my 2 girls are looking on the senior. They didn't look bad before but they are looking better since I have been feeding the R.G. Yeah when I saw the price change I about fell over. Will check out the xtra tomorrow when I go to town. Thank you for the info. |
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Location: Willows, CA | okhorselover - 2024-06-20 12:44 PM
winwillows - 2024-06-19 12:17 PM
okhorselover - 2024-06-12 10:02 AM
Our renew gold senior went up $10.00. It's now $49.99. Don't know if we can continue to feed it.
You might look at Renew Gold XTRA. 10% larger bag plus ulcer protection for the same price from most stores. That price is high for Senior unless they are delivering it to your house freight free.
Win
Is the xtra the same or better than the senior. I like the way my 2 girls are looking on the senior. They didn't look bad before but they are looking better since I have been feeding the R.G. Yeah when I saw the price change I about fell over. Will check out the xtra tomorrow when I go to town. Thank you for the info.
Beside the fact that Renew Gold XTRA is in a larger bag, it is also higher in Lysine and Vitamin C than Renew Gold Senior. In addition, it contains ulcer protection in the from of the sea kelp derived calcite Lythothamnion. If your horse is ulcer prone for reasons other than dietary, like high stress or natural nervousness then the XTRA will provide a base support that RG Senior may not. For horses that are on a Renew Gold recommended diet consisting of RG, good roughage and salt, ulcers are very seldom an issue and may not need additional ulcer protection. Win |
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