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      Location: Never in one place long | So next month I turn 30 and I still have no desire to have kids! Everyone always told me "oh you'll change your mind" "when you get older you'll want kids" etc etc.... but I still really do not! I have no desire to be pregnant, give birth or spend my time raising one or spend $1,000's on a child! When we got married, we both said we really didn't want children but now my husband has said he does and I don't! I have always said if I DID decide I wanted kids, I'd like to adopt an older child but he wants no part of that so we're at a standstill. I'm really not a baby person and don't think I'd enjoy it and knowing my husbands job, he'd not have a lot of time to spend with a child so I'd be doing most of the work. I know everyone says "when it's your own kid it's different" or "you need to have someone to take care of you when you're old" but I don't think it's a responsible decision to just have a kid in hopes that you'll like it or for "someone to take care of you" which just because you have a child is NO gaurentee that they will and the decision is irreversible obviously!! I'd be fine today getting my tubes tied and not looking back but my husband says no as he thinks I'll change my mind! Maybe in time I will change my mind but I'm 30 and don't want to be a super old parent and still don't want to so I'm thinking no! Anyone else feel this way? How do you know? I don't want regrets but really am thinking I'll never change my mind about this! It's not that I don't like kids, I am very involved with them in several ways but after a few hrs, I'm exhausted and ready to give them back to their parents! Any thoughts!? | |
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      Location: Cap'n Joan Rotgut.....alberta | i knew i never wanted any..i honestly dont like them..nasty little creatures.....but some are cute when they are sleeping....
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           Location: Kansas | I always told myself I never wanted kids.....but now that I have my daughter, I couldn't imagine my life without her. Best feeling in the world when sometime you made looks you in the eye, smiles, and calls you mommy. | |
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    Location: Idahome | I always knew I wanted them even though I don't care for babies much. Now having my daughter and expecting my second I still have the same feelings. My own baby was one thing, but I still don't care much for other babies. I struggled with my neice until she was about 6 months old because I am just not a baby person. My daughter is 2 1/2 and she is such a blessing. | |
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    Location: lost in missouri | I have never wanted kids, still dont. I have been told all the things you have been told. Luckily my husband doesnt want any either and at 37 and 44 we still havent changed our minds after 18 years together. Much to my sister and mothers dislike. If the mother thing has passed u by then it has passed u by. not all of us are made out to be mothers and i think it takes a special woman to stand up to peer pressure to say nope it isnt for me. | |
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     Location: SE KS | I too have been told all the things you have about having kids!!! I'm 41 & no human kids, horses are my kids!!! You know you, don't let anyone sway you!! (they aren't the one(s) that will be taking care of the child. | |
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     Location: Red Raiderland | redracinmo - 2014-10-17 1:04 PM I have never wanted kids, still dont. I have been told all the things you have been told. Luckily my husband doesnt want any either and at 37 and 44 we still havent changed our minds after 18 years together. Much to my sister and mothers dislike. If the mother thing has passed u by then it has passed u by. not all of us are made out to be mothers and i think it takes a special woman to stand up to peer pressure to say nope it isnt for me.
This is a very accurate statement. I am not a baby person at all but put a puppy or a kitten or really any baby animal in front of me and I become mush. I am 47 and my DH is 49 and we have been married over 20 years and did not want any kids. I can say that my dad gave us the worst time out of all the people close to us. Oh well, that decision was between me and my hubby. I thoroughly enjoy my life and do not feel I missed out on anything. I have two teenaged nieces on my side of the family and one 21 yr old niece on my hubby's side and we like spoiling them but then sending them back home when they get to be pains. My dogs are my babies and I truly like it that way. To the OP the only person you have to make a decision with is your husband. Do not worry about what others think or say. | |
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| DLV you and I could have nice sit down talk about this very thing. I turn 30 (sigggghhh...) in Dec. and I have never had a single desire of any sort to have a kid. My husband feels the same, so we differ there, but as for me and you - I get it. I sometimes catch myself thinking about if I am going to regret it? I don't know. All i do know is time keeps ticking by and still I don't want it. I always tell people that ask (who I think can handle the truth) that I don't want any but In the back of my mind I've always thought I have plenty of time to change my mind if I wanted to. That isn't always going to be the case and then THAT freaks me out. Right now it's I don't want them...soon it would be I can't because I'm past the right age...time will decide for me and that is scary. | |
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      Location: Never in one place long | lhighquality - 2014-10-17 1:08 PM
I too have been told all the things you have about having kids!!! I'm 41 & no human kids, horses are my kids!!! You know you, don't let anyone sway you!! (they aren't the one(s) that will be taking care of the child.
Very true, everyone who has kids says oh "wait till you have kids" like it MUST happen. I don't think so and I'm like you, I have 4 dogs, a few horses and lots of barn cats. I'm pretty content and plan to have a lifestyle where we move every few years and go on long trips. My lifestyle just doesn't fit in with having kids at all and I don't really see a future with them. Glad to know I'm not the only one!
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       Location: Texas! | I'm the same way, the older I get the more certain I am I don't want them. I think my boyfriend would have them if I wanted but he's also ok with not (so he says). I have too many goals for myself to drop everything and put a kid infront of all of that. Call me selfish all you want I guess! | |
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      Location: Never in one place long | star1218 - 2014-10-17 1:27 PM
DLV you and I could have nice sit down talk about this very thing. I turn 30 (sigggghhh...) in Dec. and I have never had a single desire of any sort to have a kid. My husband feels the same, so we differ there, but as for me and you - I get it. I sometimes catch myself thinking about if I am going to regret it? I don't know. All i do know is time keeps ticking by and still I don't want it. I always tell people that ask (who I think can handle the truth) that I don't want any but In the back of my mind I've always thought I have plenty of time to change my mind if I wanted to. That isn't always going to be the case and then THAT freaks me out. Right now it's I don't want them...soon it would be I can't because I'm past the right age...time will decide for me and that is scary.
Wow! you are so right! I think it's the thought that at some point you can't MAKE the decision. You hit the nail on the head! We could very much so have a good conversation! I do have a few friends my age without kids so that is nice for support! :) | |
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      Location: Beggs, OK | Jazz's Girl - 2014-10-17 12:56 PM The mothering a human gene passed me by. Now kittens, puppies, or horses. I LOVE. Little humans are disgusting. And yes Ive been told I'd change my mind. Almost 27 and it aint happened. Luckily or unluckily, my husband has 3 monsters and has been snipped so NO BABIES FOR ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I do not care for kids and after dealing with his 3 I like them even less. And Ive been told everything you have. I reply with I have 4 legged kids. And will have many more of those. No advice but heres a (((((((((hug)))))))))))))
But, why would you marry a man that has three children? I feel fairly certain that my ex-husband's girlfriend feels the same way about my daughter....and it makes me sick. My daughter is a beautiful child and one of the sweetest human beings you will ever meet...you can ask anyone who has ever met her, except this woman who lives with her father.
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           Location: Kansas | Jazz's Girl - 2014-10-17 12:56 PM The mothering a human gene passed me by. Now kittens, puppies, or horses. I LOVE. Little humans are disgusting. And yes Ive been told I'd change my mind. Almost 27 and it aint happened. Luckily or unluckily, my husband has 3 monsters and has been snipped so NO BABIES FOR ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I do not care for kids and after dealing with his 3 I like them even less. And Ive been told everything you have. I reply with I have 4 legged kids. And will have many more of those. No advice but heres a (((((((((hug)))))))))))))
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    Location: Charlestown, IN | I have always said I didn't want any kids. Heard all the same things you did, blah blah blah. Loved kids, always had them around, but did NOT do babies.. Then, I got pregnant... Everyone knew I was so adamant about not having kids that several, including my own mother, didn't believe me when I told them I was pregnant... I cried every single day for the first 3 months because I did not want to be pregnant or have kids... Then I had my first ultrasound and everything changed. When you see that little something growing inside of you, it is simply amazing. No words can really pin point how that moment changed my mind. From that point on, I could not wait to have my baby. I had a pretty simple pregnancy and stayed extremely active the entire time. I was up bouncing around after a few hours of giving birth. Felt great. My little girl is beyond the best thing to ever happen to me. She is my life. I didn't know what I was missing out on by not having a child. I didn't know true love until I laid eyes on Stella. I agree that kids aren't for everyone but if you're considering it, your mother instinct will kick in during the baby stage. I wasn't worried about how I would be but it's more than obvious that a few friends/family were. HA I hear constantly how great of a mother I am and how they couldn't believe I'd have kids or be that kind of mother, blah blah blah. I am always like you saw/see how I take care of my animals, which is better than most people live so what would make you think I'd treat a human any different?!?! And one other thing I love more than anything is the barn/horse time my daughter and I spend together. I think she has a passion for it more than I do/did at her age. She is only 4 and tells everyone she's going to be a veteranian. | |
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        Location: CTX | I just have always known that kids were not for me... Am not very comfortable around them, just plain don't like most of them. When my brother's son and daughter where born I thought long and hard. And decided that it just is not my thing. Of course with them it is a bit different, they are family. And I love them very much. My horses and dogs are my kids. And at 43 I still don't regret anything.... My hubby had his 2, they had a falling out and we hardly hear from them. And luckily for me he feels the same way now. He had his, and he is done.... snip snip.... so no accidents! And of course people told me I was going to change my mind, or I was selfish.... well you know what... I am selfish! I want to be able to do what I want, spend what I want, and when I want.... And with kids that would not be possible. Hopefully you and hubby can get to an agreement ont his, but don't feel guilty for not wanting kids. | |
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| When I got pregnant. LMAO!!!
I didn't want kids. I wanted horses and time to barrel race. Then I got pregnant and had my first son - when they laid him in my arms there in the delivery room I thought my heart was going to explode out of my chest. I was even a little sad to know I'd never hold him as close as I did when I was pregnant.
I wasn't a baby person. Now I have four. HAHAHAHAAAA!!!
ETA: I still don't like other peoples kids.
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                    Location: In the Hills of Texas | It seems everytime they do research on this subject the results are that the happiest couples are childless and I have found that to be true with every couple I know that doesn't have kids.
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     Location: Lala Land | 33, no kids, no desire for kids. Luckily my husband is on the same page. We love our nieces & nephews, but after a visit we go have cocktails and call it a "no kid party". I think we're making the right decision! lol I love my animals like they're my babies, but just never had the desire to have any. | |
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     Location: Lala Land | Nevertooold - 2014-10-17 1:48 PM It seems everytime they do research on this subject the results are that the happiest couples are childless and I have found that to be true with every couple I know that doesn't have kids.
Personally...There is no way I would want to raise or bring a baby up in our New America.
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      Location: Beggs, OK | Nevertooold - 2014-10-17 1:48 PM It seems everytime they do research on this subject the results are that the happiest couples are childless and I have found that to be true with every couple I know that doesn't have kids.
Personally...There is no way I would want to raise or bring a baby up in our New America. Now...you know how happy I am! ...and I have four of them now, lol. I have a fantastic partner though. That man is head and shoulders above any other I've ever met for helping out with our every day life from cooking, cleaning, and taking care of children. It's a matter of what your relationship is based on, what your goals are, and what your support system consists of. That will be a huge deciding factor in whether you can be a happy productive couple/family with children....should you decide that you want them.
I 100% agree with not having children if you don't want them. I can refer you to several great books to read about the damage that can be done by being raised by an emotionally unavailable mother.
And to address the current state of the world....I hope to raise children that are sympathetic to the needs of others, confident in their own abilities, and can make a difference in the world around them..no matter how small. It is terrifying to raise children knowing that there are any number of dangers out there to take them away from you...but, I can't imagine my life without them.
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  Location: Alberta | I'm only 21 and I know that I don't want kids. I'm fairly certain that most of my little cousins are the spawn of the devil. The rest of them are very well behaved. But even when I was in Jr High my friends would ask me if I wanted kids when I got older and even then my answer was no. Just like everyone else i've had people tell me that I will change my mind as I get older, and I continue to tell them that it won't. I know that my mom would love grand children (she loves spending time with my cousins) but if anyone has a baby its going to be my brother and it will probably be because he knocked up some poor lady friend of his. I just would much rather spend my time and money on my horses and dogs. I find greater joy in spending time with them than a drooling baby with a poopy diaper.
I do have a lot of respect for everyone who has kids or wants kids. They make a lot of sacrifices for their children in order for them to have wonderful lives. I am thankful that my mom and dad had my brother and I, and for all of the hard work that they had put in all through the years so that we were able to play school sports and rodeo. My mom is the hardest working person I know, my dad passed away in 2007 from cancer and my mom still marched on and shortly after that she started her own business so that we could still afford to go to rodeos. So I am very grateful for my mom and dad, but parenting a human baby is just not for me. I'll stick to my fur babies. | |
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     Location: Canada | I NEVER, NEVER, NEVER wanted children. I liked being the center of my universe and spoiling myself whenever I wanted. I was the expensive shoes, purses, manicures and facials type of girl but as usual life had different plans for me. (Caution: you may want to get some crackers for the cheese below)
I had my son when I was 28. Initially being pregnant creeped me out especially the first time he rolled over and my entire front moved but then it sort of became this magical thing between us. Now he's the center of my universe and I wouldn't change it for the world. It is different when it's your own kid and I still don't like other peoples children but every time I look at my son I can get teary (and I'm not a crier) with how much love I have for that boy. He has changed my world for the better and while we have days where being a parent is the most challenging thing in the world there are days that are so flipping magical you can't help but wonder how you got along before.
Now that being said if life hadn't intervened I probably would have never had kids. I can honestly say though if I could go back in time and know exactly how it would turn out I would do EVERYTHING the same :)
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    Location: That part of Texas | I'll be 37 next month and I can honestly say that I don't think I'll ever 100% be able to truly answer this question even though my body started to when I was 28 (that's when I had about a 1-2 year window to get'r'done before female issues made it impossible). I also fall into that category of not having a mommy-gene in relation to human babies (most literally make me break out in hives) but loving other people's children.
For the most part, I'm happy to be childless and I know that I've made the right decision for me so far. I think that's something that holds true -- where you are at now and being happy with it. Could it change in the future? Sure. Then again, it might not.
As for me, this is about the only thing right now that would make me rethink having kids . . .
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| When I had a scare and was physically ill until I got confirmation that I wasn't. I threw up all my food and couldn't sleep just from fretting. I just can't handle the idea of being pregnant, and I can make myself cry and get a fast heartbeat just imagining it. Evidently the pregnant thing freaks me out. I turned 30 in June.
I toy with the idea of adopting, but then I look at how much fun I have not putting someone else's needs in front of mine own. My husband has two from the past, and he's finished having kids, though he's open to adoption if I decide I have a need. He's a wonderful Daddy. I get my mom fix and it does nothing but concrete my feelings about no kids, all at the same time, when they're around.
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| I don't believe for one instant the happiest couples are childless. Where do they come up with this?
I knew I wanted them when they started arriving. I knew I didn't when Walmart clothes wasn't good enough. Then they have the audacity to ask me which ones are my favorite. "I don't like any of you!"
 
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| I didn't want kids. I had my horses, dogs, husband and life was good. All I wanted to do was run barrels-it was my life. I didn't care for most babies and kids. I got pregnant, had my daughter and now if I ever had to choose between anything and my daughter, I would choose my daughter without a second thought. I would sell every horse and never ride again if I had to. It is pretty neat because after I had my daughter and my priorities got back in the right order, I started having more success with my horses. I was embarrassed as to how selfish and immature I was prior to having my daughter.
With that, kids are not for everyone. They don't ask to be brought in to this world and when they get here they deserve to be given a fair shot and treated like the gift from God that they truly are. There is nothing worse than a parent who feels inconvenienced by their kids. Have kids if you and your husband want them, not for any other reason.
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                    Location: In the Hills of Texas | rachellyn80 - 2014-10-17 1:54 PM Nevertooold - 2014-10-17 1:48 PM It seems everytime they do research on this subject the results are that the happiest couples are childless and I have found that to be true with every couple I know that doesn't have kids.
Personally...There is no way I would want to raise or bring a baby up in our New America. Now...you know how happy I am! ...and I have four of them now, lol. I have a fantastic partner though. That man is head and shoulders above any other I've ever met for helping out with our every day life from cooking, cleaning, and taking care of children. It's a matter of what your relationship is based on, what your goals are, and what your support system consists of. That will be a huge deciding factor in whether you can be a happy productive couple/family with children....should you decide that you want them.
I 100% agree with not having children if you don't want them. I can refer you to several great books to read about the damage that can be done by being raised by an emotionally unavailable mother.
And to address the current state of the world....I hope to raise children that are sympathetic to the needs of others, confident in their own abilities, and can make a difference in the world around them..no matter how small. It is terrifying to raise children knowing that there are any number of dangers out there to take them away from you...but, I can't imagine my life without them.
I was thinking about you as I was typing as I've never known anyone that is so into their children and if there were more people like you and your husband our world would definitely be a lot different. The problem is you two are in the minority. Your family is very blessed. I wish more people were wired like you and your husband. | |
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| RunNitroRun - 2014-10-17 1:58 PM
I NEVER, NEVER, NEVER wanted children. I liked being the center of my universe and spoiling myself whenever I wanted. I was the expensive shoes, purses, manicures and facials type of girl but as usual life had different plans for me. (Caution: you may want to get some crackers for the cheese below)
I had my son when I was 28. Initially being pregnant creeped me out especially the first time he rolled over and my entire front moved but then it sort of became this magical thing between us. Now he's the center of my universe and I wouldn't change it for the world. It is different when it's your own kid and I still don't like other peoples children but every time I look at my son I can get teary (and I'm not a crier) with how much love I have for that boy. He has changed my world for the better and while we have days where being a parent is the most challenging thing in the world there are days that are so flipping magical you can't help but wonder how you got along before.
Now that being said if life hadn't intervened I probably would have never had kids. I can honestly say though if I could go back in time and know exactly how it would turn out I would do EVERYTHING the same :)
His pretty much my experience. I have to add that I have a WONDERFUL husband and while he works a lot when hegot home, the kids were his responsibility while I fixed supper and later rode my horses. | |
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| I like my fur and feather babies just fine. They don't ask for money, don't cost near as much to raise and care for, don't live too long, and it's actually good if not expected of you to end their suffering when they're in immense pain. I'm not made to be a parent. No, scratch that. I just don't want to be a parent. I need my peace and quiet and that won't be happenin' with children. Don't want the responsibility. Don't want the diapers, the puberty, or sass. There are of course many other good reasons, but I won't bore you with them. I just hate feeling like I have to tell everyone what a horrible person I am and what a horrible parent I'd be to get people to stop bingoing me. Not to mention the "You owe it to your parents. .." No, I don't owe them that. I owe them immense gratitude, being a productive member of society, and just being the best person I can be. They chose to have me. I had no say in the matter and do not think that that kind of life changing decision should be made by anyone other than me./span>
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      Location: Beggs, OK | Nevertooold - 2014-10-17 2:35 PM rachellyn80 - 2014-10-17 1:54 PM Nevertooold - 2014-10-17 1:48 PM It seems everytime they do research on this subject the results are that the happiest couples are childless and I have found that to be true with every couple I know that doesn't have kids.
Personally...There is no way I would want to raise or bring a baby up in our New America. Now...you know how happy I am! ...and I have four of them now, lol. I have a fantastic partner though. That man is head and shoulders above any other I've ever met for helping out with our every day life from cooking, cleaning, and taking care of children. It's a matter of what your relationship is based on, what your goals are, and what your support system consists of. That will be a huge deciding factor in whether you can be a happy productive couple/family with children....should you decide that you want them.
I 100% agree with not having children if you don't want them. I can refer you to several great books to read about the damage that can be done by being raised by an emotionally unavailable mother.
And to address the current state of the world....I hope to raise children that are sympathetic to the needs of others, confident in their own abilities, and can make a difference in the world around them..no matter how small. It is terrifying to raise children knowing that there are any number of dangers out there to take them away from you...but, I can't imagine my life without them. I was thinking about you as I was typing as I've never known anyone that is so into their children and if there were more people like you and your husband our world would definitely be a lot different. The problem is you two are in the minority. Your family is very blessed. I wish more people were wired like you and your husband.
Thank you :) We truly enjoy our babies and have gone through a lot to get them here! I read what people write about their horses and their dogs and can absolutely relate...it's just in a different way. Seeing my girls grow up and be happy and successful has been such a blessing and we are just getting started. They are totally different people and each have such a unique way of looking at things and reacting to their experiences.
"Training" them has been more fun for us than many people realize that you can have with kids. I don't "give" them anything, but I never set them up to fail either. My girls trust me when I tell them that they can do something, because so far I have never let them down...and I hope to keep it that way. They don't ride horses that I wouldn't ride myself (with the exception of the notorious Captain Jack) and they work right along side their Daddy and me to keep it all going. | |
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      Location: Prosser, WA | I have kids and thing they are great. They provide endless amounts of entertainment. :). But honestly, if you are not 100% sure that you want them, then don't have any. They are a lot of work. Too many people cave and have kids because they are pressured into it, think it's the "right thing to do", or that it's the "next step in the relationship", or even worse to try to fix their relationship. All horrible reasons to bring a child into the world. | |
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     Location: North Dakota | I am 28 and on the fence. Growing up I KNEW I never wanted to have kids (I didn't want to get married until I was 40 but that changed...lol) and then once I met my husband I started thinkg "well maybe..." But I just don't know. He is amazing with kids and would be a wonderful father so it is because of that I would like to make him one but then again I really do not like kids. I never want to hold my friend's babies. I do not oo and ahh over babies. Pregnancy also freaks me out. My husband is perfectly content on not having kids. He tells me he is fine with whatever I decide. We are happy with our lives the way they are. The dogs, cats, and horses are enough responsibility for us...lol. . | |
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      Location: Feeding mosquitos, FL | Just Bring It - 2014-10-17 4:45 PM I am 28 and on the fence. Growing up I KNEW I never wanted to have kids (I didn't want to get married until I was 40 but that changed...lol) and then once I met my husband I started thinkg "well maybe..." But I just don't know. He is amazing with kids and would be a wonderful father so it is because of that I would like to make him one but then again I really do not like kids. I never want to hold my friend's babies. I do not oo and ahh over babies. Pregnancy also freaks me out. My husband is perfectly content on not having kids. He tells me he is fine with whatever I decide. We are happy with our lives the way they are. The dogs, cats, and horses are enough responsibility for us...lol. .
Girl you took the words right out of my laptop.
I have never wanted kids. My husband has always wanted a herd of kids but he's evolved to one if I'm ever ready for it. If not, he's ok with that too. He's basically perfect. If I could skip the pregnant part, I'd be more inclined. If he would agree to adoption, then I'm in. But dang I don't want to be pregnant and I do not do babies.
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    Location: Texas | I never ruled kids out. I figured I would have them at some point. I was never the kid person. To this day, kids that aren't mine freak me out. Not in a bad way. It's more along, I spazz out and don't know how to interact with them. My mom was worried about my lack of mommy tendencies until they placed my oldest son in my arms.
As for getting pregnant, it was like a switched flipped in my brain. Baby fever is real. Holy crap. One day I didn't want kids and the next, having a baby was all I could think about.
I now have two little boys. Some may think they're little monsters, but I think of it as training a colt. Nobody gets trained in a day. But they are fun.
I also believe that those who don't want kids shouldn't have them to appease family and society. Kids take a lot of work, money, and love. Being a mom brings a whole new meaning to the term "24/7."
To the OP - I would recommend getting on the same page with your hubby. To me, this is a make or break issue. You don't want him to end up resenting you later on in life. Yes, you both agreed to be DINKS (double income, no kids) in the beginning, but he has changed his mind. I don't know how to get on the same page, but this could become a MAJOR issue. | |
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          Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | TrackinBubba - 2014-10-17 3:54 PM Just Bring It - 2014-10-17 4:45 PM I am 28 and on the fence. Growing up I KNEW I never wanted to have kids (I didn't want to get married until I was 40 but that changed...lol) and then once I met my husband I started thinkg "well maybe..." But I just don't know. He is amazing with kids and would be a wonderful father so it is because of that I would like to make him one but then again I really do not like kids. I never want to hold my friend's babies. I do not oo and ahh over babies. Pregnancy also freaks me out. My husband is perfectly content on not having kids. He tells me he is fine with whatever I decide. We are happy with our lives the way they are. The dogs, cats, and horses are enough responsibility for us...lol. . Girl you took the words right out of my laptop.
I have never wanted kids. My husband has always wanted a herd of kids but he's evolved to one if I'm ever ready for it. If not, he's ok with that too. He's basically perfect. If I could skip the pregnant part, I'd be more inclined. If he would agree to adoption, then I'm in. But dang I don't want to be pregnant and I do not do babies.
One day I'll jump but for now I"m on the fence.
I didn't care for pregnancy, but it was worth the torture. I've never been a baby person either, but it really is different when they're your own. | |
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    Location: Michigan | I'm 47. Knew from an early age I didn't want kids. I love my nieces & nephews. My fiancé has 2 kids from a previous marriage. I love them too, but the whole baby thing is not for me. I found this article below several months ago. I've been asked or told many of the same statements.
Silly Things People Have Said to Me When I Tell Them I'm Not Having Kids Posted: 10/21/2013 8:17 am For TueNight.com by Tamar Anitai There will be no children in my future. Ever. Yes, I am married. Yes, my husband knows that I do not want children. Yes, we both realize we're extremely fortunate to be able to elect to live child-free. He doesn't want kids either. It's part of the reason I married him. (That, and he has excellent hair.) He married me knowing that and also because I always clean the litter box.
I probably brought up the topic of kids on the second date -- it would have been a deal breaker. My husband would make the world's greatest father. But that alone isn't reason enough for me to become the mother I've never wanted to be, take on crushing financial burden or add more to my already too-full plate.
I love my friends' children. Because I don't have to take care of them. Their cuteness is there to fulfill my need to see cute things. I don't expect them to behave for me, and they don't expect 18 years of dinner from me. I see this as a good setup.
Not only do I not want children, but I think what really blows people's minds is that I've realized I don't need them. Apparently, some people agree with me, and apparently that's national news if the August 12 issue of Time is any indicator: The entire cover story was dedicated to the marvelous epiphany that "having it all" -- whatever that even means -- for some Americans means not having children. We've come far as a country, haven't we, when a well-established journalistic bulwark recognizes that -- gasp -- married couples might actually chose to subvert the cultural paradigm and elect to never need a minivan! What'll they come up with next? Gay people having babies? What sorcery is this?
Listen. I'm being real here: I need my sleep much more than I need children. Does that sound selfish? That's probably because it is! Which is probably one of the top reasons I shouldn't enter into parenthood in the first place. Which is just so funny, because people who have no business being in my business say the darndest things when I tell them I'm not having children. A sampling:
"You should totally do it! It's a blast!" I bet having a dog is also a blast, but I don't even want the responsibility of caring for a dog. You'd probably talk me out of having a dog I didn't want to care for, so why would you try to talk me into having a human being I don't want to care for?
"You'll change your mind." This is one of my absolute favorite things that people like to say when I tell them I'm not having children. It's so funny, because it implies they know me better than I know myself. To which I like to respond, "HOORAY! A REAL, LIVE, FREE PSYCHIC! What else can you tell me about myself that I don't know? Will I win the lottery? Will I ever finally lose those last, stubborn five pounds, or should I just give up? Also, how will the final season of "Mad Men" end?? Will we ever find out what really happened on the final scene of The Sopranos? What other secrets of the universe are you hiding in that magical brain of yours?"
"But what will you do when you're old?" Um, let's see... hopefully spend the savings account that I didn't drain on summer camp and braces and college on traveling the world, all while dressed like Bea Arthur in "The Golden Girls." Playing shuffleboard. Hopefully.
"You'll just figure out a way to afford it." LOL. Oh GOD you are just the funniest thing! Truly, a hoot! You're a stand-up comic, right? What's funny about that bullshit is that someone probably shared the same Pollyanna-ish platitude with the millions of people in this country who couldn't afford kids when they started out and still -- even with college educations and decent jobs -- never managed to "just figure out a way to afford it." The other thing that's funny is that this is another of the benefits of not having kids -- you never have to figure out a way to afford it.
"But what if you regret never having your own kids?" I'd rather regret never having children than have children and regret it.
"But you'll never know happiness like the happiness of being a parent." I'll also never know what it's like to have a penis. Or be Cuban! Or be able to dunk a basketball on the 1992 Olympic Dream Team. I'll also never know what it's like to change a fetid diaper or what it's like to have a teenager who devotes months, if not years to hating me, followed by decades of passively resenting me. Thank you for your genuine concern regarding the status of my happiness, Deepak Chopra, but as a genuinely content person, I'm living proof that happiness isn't just reserved for parents and that it's possible to know happiness without venturing into parenthood. I love it here on the sandy child-free beach upon which I'm currently sunning.
"Why wouldn't you want to have children if your body is capable of it?" Yes, someone actually said this to me. My body's also capable of having a gang bang, but I'm definitely not boarding that bus. So I'm not even honoring that with a response. The side eye was invented for this occasion.
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| So I will be the Odd one out.. I NEVER wanted children.. EVER they terrify me, the still do terrify me. BUT I have seen how my husband is AMAZING with children and he would like at least one. The fear of pregnancy, labor and all of that is literally TERRIFYING BUT, I am willing to have them for my husband. Mostly because he will be an AMAZING father. So I am almost willing to put all of my fears aside and push through it for him. NOW when I eventually am having a baby and FREAKING out when I am Pregnant someone can tell me how I knew I would be this scared lol. | |
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| EmtRoper - 2014-10-18 2:45 PM So I will be the Odd one out.. I NEVER wanted children.. EVER they terrify me, the still do terrify me. BUT I have seen how my husband is AMAZING with children and he would like at least one. The fear of pregnancy, labor and all of that is literally TERRIFYING BUT, I am willing to have them for my husband. Mostly because he will be an AMAZING father. So I am almost willing to put all of my fears aside and push through it for him. NOW when I eventually am having a baby and FREAKING out when I am Pregnant someone can tell me how I knew I would be this scared lol.
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| My parents divorced when I was 6, so I got a full view of the good and bad from the get go. I turned twenty one thirty years ago and thought the world was too screwed up then to risk raising a kid. Got married at 31 to a man that felt the same way and have never looked back. I am now teaching my 30th year of special education. All of my energy is used helping the children of others. | |
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| There is nothing better than when I walk in the door from work and my 2 year old runs up to me yelling, "Datty" and give me a big hug around my leg. No "thing" in this world can ever compare.
I'm probably gonna get flamed for this, but...I feel really sorry for anybody that will never know that kind of happiness.
I also wonder if the collapse in moral values in our nation is at least in part because of the lack of interest in marriage and families. If people have nothing to worry about but "themselves" why would they care about the future? (I know this isn't true with everyone)
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     Location: Ohio | You ladies have no idea how happy this post made me feel to know I'm not alone!!! I will be 31 this year and my mommy clock has yet to start ticking. My husband and I are content and do not plan on having kids. It's definitely made me the black sheep in my family... I actually wear that badge proudly though! lol | |
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| i did not want any lol never ever bady sat never changed a diaper but...... i have the heart of hearts my son the love of my life
what can i say he was an accident a not supposed to happen but..
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       Location: Wisconsin | Racey Stacey - 2014-10-17 1:43 PM I have always said I didn't want any kids. Heard all the same things you did, blah blah blah. Loved kids, always had them around, but did NOT do babies.. Then, I got pregnant... Everyone knew I was so adamant about not having kids that several, including my own mother, didn't believe me when I told them I was pregnant... I cried every single day for the first 3 months because I did not want to be pregnant or have kids... Then I had my first ultrasound and everything changed. When you see that little something growing inside of you, it is simply amazing. No words can really pin point how that moment changed my mind. From that point on, I could not wait to have my baby. I had a pretty simple pregnancy and stayed extremely active the entire time. I was up bouncing around after a few hours of giving birth. Felt great. My little girl is beyond the best thing to ever happen to me. She is my life. I didn't know what I was missing out on by not having a child. I didn't know true love until I laid eyes on Stella. I agree that kids aren't for everyone but if you're considering it, your mother instinct will kick in during the baby stage. I wasn't worried about how I would be but it's more than obvious that a few friends/family were. HA I hear constantly how great of a mother I am and how they couldn't believe I'd have kids or be that kind of mother, blah blah blah. I am always like you saw/see how I take care of my animals, which is better than most people live so what would make you think I'd treat a human any different?!?! And one other thing I love more than anything is the barn/horse time my daughter and I spend together. I think she has a passion for it more than I do/did at her age. She is only 4 and tells everyone she's going to be a veteranian.
I feel like I could have written this exact statement. I never wanted kids and was never around babies or had even changed a diaper. I cried my eyes out when i found out. I took four tests at home then made the doctors test because there was no way the home tests were right. Everyone was shocked and goes on about how surprised they are that I am such a good Mom. Honestly it hurts my darn feeling that people thought I was so heartless but whatever. Our son is amazing and I could have never imagined how much more amazing our lives are with him in it. I love him to pieces! But no matter what you do people will keep telling you how to live your life. Now that we have one everyone says we have to have another, which most likely will not happen. I feel like in the horrible society we live in our son will need our full attention to stay on a good path. Whatever you decide is what is best for your lives, not the lives of others! | |
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Whiteboy - 2014-10-17 5:18 PM There is nothing better than when I walk in the door from work and my 2 year old runs up to me yelling, "Datty" and give me a big hug around my leg. No "thing" in this world can ever compare.
I'm probably gonna get flamed for this, but...I feel really sorry for anybody that will never know that kind of happiness.
I also wonder if the collapse in moral values in our nation is at least in part because of the lack of interest in marriage and families. If people have nothing to worry about but "themselves" why would they care about the future? (I know this isn't true with everyone)
There is nothing in this life that could ever beat this, having your little one running to you with that big old smile on their face with a hug and saying I love you daddy/mommie. And then when the grandkids start coming Wow the feeling is just over welming..  | |
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| Whiteboy - 2014-10-17 6:18 PM
I'm probably gonna get flamed for this, but...I feel really sorry for anybody that will never know that kind of happiness.
I also wonder if the collapse in moral values in our nation is at least in part because of the lack of interest in marriage and families. If people have nothing to worry about but "themselves" why would they care about the future? (I know this isn't true with everyone)
I've heard the first statement so many times before that I'm almost numb to it. Almost. Well maybe not since it's the ultimate insult to people who simply don't want children and those who really can't have them despite wanting them so badly.
The second is a new low, though. Wow, I think I've heard it all now. The crown jewel. The icing on the cake. The piece of resistance. *Slow clap* | |
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| Whiteboy - 2014-10-17 5:18 PM
There is nothing better than when I walk in the door from work and my 2 year old runs up to me yelling, "Datty" and give me a big hug around my leg. No "thing" in this world can ever compare.
I'm probably gonna get flamed for this, but...I feel really sorry for anybody that will never know that kind of happiness.
I also wonder if the collapse in moral values in our nation is at least in part because of the lack of interest in marriage and families. If people have nothing to worry about but "themselves" why would they care about the future? (I know this isn't true with everyone)
I have to disagree with your statements
IF PEOPLE HAVE NOBODY TO WORRY ABOUT THEMSELVES, WHY WOULD THEY CARE ABOUT THE FUTURE
Working in the health care for years, I have about 100 reasons why I choose not to have children, yes some people would my reasons are selfish, but in would say it is me being aware of my limitations and what I am not willing to compromise.
I have also heard from board members here and it drives me crazy people have choose to have children, but have admitted their children are not their first. My values my parents instilled in me taught me if you want to have children they need to come first before everything.
For me deciding to not have children, I am caring about the future, what I can contribute as a person as an individual, I am also caring about the life I choose not to bring into the world.
Personally I think all who want children should have a mental health assessment attend education seminars and be issued a liscence to have a child. This would be doing the future a favor | |
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| cheryl makofka - 2014-10-18 4:22 PM Whiteboy - 2014-10-17 5:18 PM There is nothing better than when I walk in the door from work and my 2 year old runs up to me yelling, "Datty" and give me a big hug around my leg. No "thing" in this world can ever compare.
I'm probably gonna get flamed for this, but...I feel really sorry for anybody that will never know that kind of happiness.
I also wonder if the collapse in moral values in our nation is at least in part because of the lack of interest in marriage and families. If people have nothing to worry about but "themselves" why would they care about the future? (I know this isn't true with everyone) I have to disagree with your statements IF PEOPLE HAVE NOBODY TO WORRY ABOUT THEMSELVES, WHY WOULD THEY CARE ABOUT THE FUTURE Working in the health care for years, I have about 100 reasons why I choose not to have children, yes some people would my reasons are selfish, but in would say it is me being aware of my limitations and what I am not willing to compromise. I have also heard from board members here and it drives me crazy people have choose to have children, but have admitted their children are not their first. My values my parents instilled in me taught me if you want to have children they need to come first before everything. For me deciding to not have children, I am caring about the future, what I can contribute as a person as an individual, I am also caring about the life I choose not to bring into the world. Personally I think all who want children should have a mental health assessment attend education seminars and be issued a liscence to have a child. This would be doing the future a favor Good grief. There would have to be another Czar named by the annoited one to run that department.
Everyone's parents are a little screwed up. So what? We survive anyway.
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| Brrelhorse - 2014-10-17 4:39 PM
I'm 47. Knew from an early age I didn't want kids. I love my nieces & nephews. My fiancé has 2 kids from a previous marriage. I love them too, but the whole baby thing is not for me. I found this article below several months ago. I've been asked or told many of the same statements.
Silly Things People Have Said to Me When I Tell Them I'm Not Having Kids Posted: 10/21/2013 8:17 am For TueNight.com by Tamar Anitai There will be no children in my future. Ever. Yes, I am married. Yes, my husband knows that I do not want children. Yes, we both realize we're extremely fortunate to be able to elect to live child-free. He doesn't want kids either. It's part of the reason I married him. (That, and he has excellent hair.) He married me knowing that and also because I always clean the litter box.
I probably brought up the topic of kids on the second date -- it would have been a deal breaker. My husband would make the world's greatest father. But that alone isn't reason enough for me to become the mother I've never wanted to be, take on crushing financial burden or add more to my already too-full plate.
I love my friends' children. Because I don't have to take care of them. Their cuteness is there to fulfill my need to see cute things. I don't expect them to behave for me, and they don't expect 18 years of dinner from me. I see this as a good setup. Not only do I not want children, but I think what really blows people's minds is that I've realized I don't need them. Apparently, some people agree with me, and apparently that's national news if the August 12 issue of Time is any indicator: The entire cover story was dedicated to the marvelous epiphany that "having it all" -- whatever that even means -- for some Americans means not having children. We've come far as a country, haven't we, when a well-established journalistic bulwark recognizes that -- gasp -- married couples might actually chose to subvert the cultural paradigm and elect to never need a minivan! What'll they come up with next? Gay people having babies? What sorcery is this? Listen. I'm being real here: I need my sleep much more than I need children. Does that sound selfish? That's probably because it is! Which is probably one of the top reasons I shouldn't enter into parenthood in the first place. Which is just so funny, because people who have no business being in my business say the darndest things when I tell them I'm not having children. A sampling: "You should totally do it! It's a blast!" I bet having a dog is also a blast, but I don't even want the responsibility of caring for a dog. You'd probably talk me out of having a dog I didn't want to care for, so why would you try to talk me into having a human being I don't want to care for? "You'll change your mind." This is one of my absolute favorite things that people like to say when I tell them I'm not having children. It's so funny, because it implies they know me better than I know myself. To which I like to respond, "HOORAY! A REAL, LIVE, FREE PSYCHIC! What else can you tell me about myself that I don't know? Will I win the lottery? Will I ever finally lose those last, stubborn five pounds, or should I just give up? Also, how will the final season of "Mad Men" end?? Will we ever find out what really happened on the final scene of The Sopranos? What other secrets of the universe are you hiding in that magical brain of yours?" "But what will you do when you're old?" Um, let's see... hopefully spend the savings account that I didn't drain on summer camp and braces and college on traveling the world, all while dressed like Bea Arthur in "The Golden Girls." Playing shuffleboard. Hopefully. "You'll just figure out a way to afford it." LOL. Oh GOD you are just the funniest thing! Truly, a hoot! You're a stand-up comic, right? What's funny about that bullshit is that someone probably shared the same Pollyanna-ish platitude with the millions of people in this country who couldn't afford kids when they started out and still -- even with college educations and decent jobs -- never managed to "just figure out a way to afford it." The other thing that's funny is that this is another of the benefits of not having kids -- you never have to figure out a way to afford it. "But what if you regret never having your own kids?" I'd rather regret never having children than have children and regret it. "But you'll never know happiness like the happiness of being a parent." I'll also never know what it's like to have a penis. Or be Cuban! Or be able to dunk a basketball on the 1992 Olympic Dream Team. I'll also never know what it's like to change a fetid diaper or what it's like to have a teenager who devotes months, if not years to hating me, followed by decades of passively resenting me. Thank you for your genuine concern regarding the status of my happiness, Deepak Chopra, but as a genuinely content person, I'm living proof that happiness isn't just reserved for parents and that it's possible to know happiness without venturing into parenthood. I love it here on the sandy child-free beach upon which I'm currently sunning. "Why wouldn't you want to have children if your body is capable of it?" Yes, someone actually said this to me. My body's also capable of having a gang bang, but I'm definitely not boarding that bus. So I'm not even honoring that with a response. The side eye was invented for this occasion. "Good for you!" Thank you. Can't say I disagree.
This one is definitely my favorite lol ^^^
I am 22 & I have never liked / wanted kids .. Was agreement from the start with my hubby .. Bc I knew I never wanted any & I wasn't even getting into that .. I do believe he wants them , but I made clear that it's not happening & he chose to marry me anyways ! Soo it's just me, my kitties & my horses :) | |
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| I LOVE KIDS! I also love to send them home. I work in a school. All my motherly needs are met there. In truth when I want kids I want to adopt. much of that comes from seeing the kids in our school in the system or needing a loving family. Breaks my heart. I feel it selfish of me wanting to have my own when so many need a home. | |
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | shubug007 - 2014-10-17 7:57 PM I LOVE KIDS! I also love to send them home. I work in a school. All my motherly needs are met there. In truth when I want kids I want to adopt. much of that comes from seeing the kids in our school in the system or needing a loving family. Breaks my heart. I feel it selfish of me wanting to have my own when so many need a home.
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        Location: LaBelle, Florida | I don't particulary like kids either, however, I do have one. I was 37 when I had her and tubes were tied shortly there after.
Never had any accidental pregnancies and she was planned. I had a moment of weakness with Hubby #2 and told him if we were going to have A child, we better get it done.
I fully beleive God took me serious because if I had not gotten pregnant on the first try, there would have been no other attempts.
He also blessed me with little to no morning sickeness, easy pregnancy and a happy child.
I still don't like kids but love mine. I also have not problem with disiplining her as needed and she has made it to the age of 10.
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| RidenFly - 2014-10-17 6:34 PM
cheryl makofka - 2014-10-18 4:22 PM Whiteboy - 2014-10-17 5:18 PM There is nothing better than when I walk in the door from work and my 2 year old runs up to me yelling, "Datty" and give me a big hug around my leg. No "thing" in this world can ever compare.
I'm probably gonna get flamed for this, but...I feel really sorry for anybody that will never know that kind of happiness.
I also wonder if the collapse in moral values in our nation is at least in part because of the lack of interest in marriage and families. If people have nothing to worry about but "themselves" why would they care about the future? (I know this isn't true with everyone) I have to disagree with your statements IF PEOPLE HAVE NOBODY TO WORRY ABOUT THEMSELVES, WHY WOULD THEY CARE ABOUT THE FUTURE Working in the health care for years, I have about 100 reasons why I choose not to have children, yes some people would my reasons are selfish, but in would say it is me being aware of my limitations and what I am not willing to compromise. I have also heard from board members here and it drives me crazy people have choose to have children, but have admitted their children are not their first. My values my parents instilled in me taught me if you want to have children they need to come first before everything. For me deciding to not have children, I am caring about the future, what I can contribute as a person as an individual, I am also caring about the life I choose not to bring into the world. Personally I think all who want children should have a mental health assessment attend education seminars and be issued a liscence to have a child. This would be doing the future a favor Good grief. There would have to be another Czar named by the annoited one to run that department.
Everyone's parents are a little screwed up. So what? We survive anyway.
What about the children born with physical deformities and mental impairment due to their parents smoking/injecting drugs and/or drinking throughout their pregnancies.
What about the children who are sexually abused by their mother/father when they are as little as two years old or even younger.
What about the children who are living in houses where meth is cooked, the meth is absorbed through the skin and inhalation.
What about the kids who are born into gangs or join gangs as there is no other alternative
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      Location: Prosser, WA | cheryl makofka - 2014-10-17 6:35 PM
RidenFly - 2014-10-17 6:34 PM
cheryl makofka - 2014-10-18 4:22 PM Whiteboy - 2014-10-17 5:18 PM There is nothing better than when I walk in the door from work and my 2 year old runs up to me yelling, "Datty" and give me a big hug around my leg. No "thing" in this world can ever compare.
I'm probably gonna get flamed for this, but...I feel really sorry for anybody that will never know that kind of happiness.
I also wonder if the collapse in moral values in our nation is at least in part because of the lack of interest in marriage and families. If people have nothing to worry about but "themselves" why would they care about the future? (I know this isn't true with everyone) I have to disagree with your statements IF PEOPLE HAVE NOBODY TO WORRY ABOUT THEMSELVES, WHY WOULD THEY CARE ABOUT THE FUTURE Working in the health care for years, I have about 100 reasons why I choose not to have children, yes some people would my reasons are selfish, but in would say it is me being aware of my limitations and what I am not willing to compromise. I have also heard from board members here and it drives me crazy people have choose to have children, but have admitted their children are not their first. My values my parents instilled in me taught me if you want to have children they need to come first before everything. For me deciding to not have children, I am caring about the future, what I can contribute as a person as an individual, I am also caring about the life I choose not to bring into the world. Personally I think all who want children should have a mental health assessment attend education seminars and be issued a liscence to have a child. This would be doing the future a favor Good grief. There would have to be another Czar named by the annoited one to run that department.
Everyone's parents are a little screwed up. So what? We survive anyway.
What about the children born with physical deformities and mental impairment due to their parents smoking/injecting drugs and/or drinking throughout their pregnancies.
What about the children who are sexually abused by their mother/father when they are as little as two years old or even younger.
What about the children who are living in houses where meth is cooked, the meth is absorbed through the skin and inhalation.
What about the kids who are born into gangs or join gangs as there is no other alternative
You cannot tell me these kids are okay.
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   Location: North Dakota | cheryl makofka - 2014-10-17 8:35 PM RidenFly - 2014-10-17 6:34 PM cheryl makofka - 2014-10-18 4:22 PM Whiteboy - 2014-10-17 5:18 PM There is nothing better than when I walk in the door from work and my 2 year old runs up to me yelling, "Datty" and give me a big hug around my leg. No "thing" in this world can ever compare.
I'm probably gonna get flamed for this, but...I feel really sorry for anybody that will never know that kind of happiness.
I also wonder if the collapse in moral values in our nation is at least in part because of the lack of interest in marriage and families. If people have nothing to worry about but "themselves" why would they care about the future? (I know this isn't true with everyone) I have to disagree with your statements IF PEOPLE HAVE NOBODY TO WORRY ABOUT THEMSELVES, WHY WOULD THEY CARE ABOUT THE FUTURE Working in the health care for years, I have about 100 reasons why I choose not to have children, yes some people would my reasons are selfish, but in would say it is me being aware of my limitations and what I am not willing to compromise. I have also heard from board members here and it drives me crazy people have choose to have children, but have admitted their children are not their first. My values my parents instilled in me taught me if you want to have children they need to come first before everything. For me deciding to not have children, I am caring about the future, what I can contribute as a person as an individual, I am also caring about the life I choose not to bring into the world. Personally I think all who want children should have a mental health assessment attend education seminars and be issued a liscence to have a child. This would be doing the future a favor Good grief. There would have to be another Czar named by the annoited one to run that department.
Everyone's parents are a little screwed up. So what? We survive anyway. What about the children born with physical deformities and mental impairment due to their parents smoking/injecting drugs and/or drinking throughout their pregnancies. What about the children who are sexually abused by their mother/father when they are as little as two years old or even younger. What about the children who are living in houses where meth is cooked, the meth is absorbed through the skin and inhalation. What about the kids who are born into gangs or join gangs as there is no other alternative You cannot tell me these kids are okay.
What about the kids that are born with deformities or learning disabilities or handicaps that the parents did everything right? They are loved anyway! Every person has some sort of "plight" in their world! You deal with it, change it or go with it! That's what makes the world what it is! If you don't want to have children be glad there are people who are doing their damnedest to raise theirs right, to continue the world and hopefully somehow, even in their own little way change it for the better! There will Always be screwed up people! And if you choose not to have a family that is YOUR choice it doesn't make my choice to have kids worse! | |
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        Location: Alberta | Doing what you want and feel right doing is what should make a person happy, whether it's having kids or not! My parents were 32 & 35 when they had my brother and I, my mother did not want children, but my dad did, of course she didn't regret having us!
The idea of "have kids to take care of you when your old" ......makes me think, I'd rather be old and alone (with no kids) in a senior home then old and alone knowing I have kids who don't visit me....food for thought!
My husband and I do not have children and we are 33 & 34, my desire to have kids has never been there, but at times I do think "what if" but then my selfish side comes out and I like my life.......I like being an aunt.
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    Location: Washington. (The DRY side.) | I haven't read all 3 pages of replies yet so I'm probably repeating what has already been said. BUT, as far as worrying about possible future regrets, IMO, it is MUCH better to possibly regret NOT having them than it is to regret HAVING one after it is already born! I just turned 47. I've NEVER wanted kids. Never even crossed my mind to have any. I like babies well enough, as long as their parents are there. I refuse to even babysit babies. Kids can be ok, but mostly they annoy me until they get a bit of age on them. As far as people saying."it's different when they are yours"... I always said, barking dogs annoy me too, and it's WORSE when it's mine! Don't let ANYONE change your mind for you. It is YOU that is going to be responsible for it for the next 18+ years, NOT THEM! | |
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           Location: Kansas | cheryl makofka - 2014-10-17 8:35 PM
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cheryl makofka - 2014-10-18 4:22 PM Whiteboy - 2014-10-17 5:18 PM There is nothing better than when I walk in the door from work and my 2 year old runs up to me yelling, "Datty" and give me a big hug around my leg. No "thing" in this world can ever compare.
I'm probably gonna get flamed for this, but...I feel really sorry for anybody that will never know that kind of happiness.
I also wonder if the collapse in moral values in our nation is at least in part because of the lack of interest in marriage and families. If people have nothing to worry about but "themselves" why would they care about the future? (I know this isn't true with everyone) I have to disagree with your statements IF PEOPLE HAVE NOBODY TO WORRY ABOUT THEMSELVES, WHY WOULD THEY CARE ABOUT THE FUTURE Working in the health care for years, I have about 100 reasons why I choose not to have children, yes some people would my reasons are selfish, but in would say it is me being aware of my limitations and what I am not willing to compromise. I have also heard from board members here and it drives me crazy people have choose to have children, but have admitted their children are not their first. My values my parents instilled in me taught me if you want to have children they need to come first before everything. For me deciding to not have children, I am caring about the future, what I can contribute as a person as an individual, I am also caring about the life I choose not to bring into the world. Personally I think all who want children should have a mental health assessment attend education seminars and be issued a liscence to have a child. This would be doing the future a favor Good grief. There would have to be another Czar named by the annoited one to run that department.
Everyone's parents are a little screwed up. So what? We survive anyway.
What about the children born with physical deformities and mental impairment due to their parents smoking/injecting drugs and/or drinking throughout their pregnancies.
What about the children who are sexually abused by their mother/father when they are as little as two years old or even younger.
What about the children who are living in houses where meth is cooked, the meth is absorbed through the skin and inhalation.
What about the kids who are born into gangs or join gangs as there is no other alternative
You cannot tell me these kids are okay.
I'm sorry but I grew up not really knowing my father, my mother smoked method, crack, snorted coke......was a severe alcoholic...so I grew up taking care of myself. NOT ALL KIDS WHO GROWNUP IN HOMES LIKE THAT BECOME SCREW UPS. I grew up knowing that I will better myself and never touch drugs....and to this day, I never have.I do agree that those poor children should never have ever seen that, no they are not okay...and most grow up in foster homes. My heart will always ache for them. And some of those people should never have children because of the hell they put those kids through in life. I've seen it myself, and I will never allowy child to ever look upon that hell I had to see as a child. Rant over, sorry if I get flamed.....but it ticked me off. | |
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| cheryl makofka - 2014-10-17 6:22 PM Whiteboy - 2014-10-17 5:18 PM There is nothing better than when I walk in the door from work and my 2 year old runs up to me yelling, "Datty" and give me a big hug around my leg. No "thing" in this world can ever compare.
I'm probably gonna get flamed for this, but...I feel really sorry for anybody that will never know that kind of happiness.
I also wonder if the collapse in moral values in our nation is at least in part because of the lack of interest in marriage and families. If people have nothing to worry about but "themselves" why would they care about the future? (I know this isn't true with everyone) I have to disagree with your statements IF PEOPLE HAVE NOBODY TO WORRY ABOUT THEMSELVES, WHY WOULD THEY CARE ABOUT THE FUTURE Working in the health care for years, I have about 100 reasons why I choose not to have children, yes some people would my reasons are selfish, but in would say it is me being aware of my limitations and what I am not willing to compromise. I have also heard from board members here and it drives me crazy people have choose to have children, but have admitted their children are not their first. My values my parents instilled in me taught me if you want to have children they need to come first before everything. For me deciding to not have children, I am caring about the future, what I can contribute as a person as an individual, I am also caring about the life I choose not to bring into the world. Personally I think all who want children should have a mental health assessment attend education seminars and be issued a liscence to have a child. This would be doing the future a favor
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   Location: Texas | I just couldn't picture having a baby. If I had been married to the right man earlier in life.....maybe.....but not now. I don't like it when people get remarried and think they have to have a child with every man you marry. Having children is a lot of responsibility.....I have enough taking care of myself. | |
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         Location: Stephenville, TX | Back to the original topic of being childless by choice...
People find happiness in different things. And that's okay. No intervention to save them from "missing out" on your idea of happiness is necessary. Just be happy that they're happy and let them be.
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| Whiteboy - 2014-10-17 10:06 PM
cheryl makofka - 2014-10-17 6:22 PM Whiteboy - 2014-10-17 5:18 PM There is nothing better than when I walk in the door from work and my 2 year old runs up to me yelling, "Datty" and give me a big hug around my leg. No "thing" in this world can ever compare.
I'm probably gonna get flamed for this, but...I feel really sorry for anybody that will never know that kind of happiness.
I also wonder if the collapse in moral values in our nation is at least in part because of the lack of interest in marriage and families. If people have nothing to worry about but "themselves" why would they care about the future? (I know this isn't true with everyone) I have to disagree with your statements IF PEOPLE HAVE NOBODY TO WORRY ABOUT THEMSELVES, WHY WOULD THEY CARE ABOUT THE FUTURE Working in the health care for years, I have about 100 reasons why I choose not to have children, yes some people would my reasons are selfish, but in would say it is me being aware of my limitations and what I am not willing to compromise. I have also heard from board members here and it drives me crazy people have choose to have children, but have admitted their children are not their first. My values my parents instilled in me taught me if you want to have children they need to come first before everything. For me deciding to not have children, I am caring about the future, what I can contribute as a person as an individual, I am also caring about the life I choose not to bring into the world. Personally I think all who want children should have a mental health assessment attend education seminars and be issued a liscence to have a child. This would be doing the future a favor
You are a communist aren't you?
Not communist, a communist believes in equality, I don't, but since every country supports social assistance;
We need to pass a drivers test, we have to apply for a marriage liscence, for certain jobs we need a criminal record check, some mental health assessment.
If we had liscences to bear children, all children would then be wanted, every person applying for a liscence would know the inherent risks of children physical, mental, socioeconomic on themselves and the child. This would be making an informed choice.
This would save a lot of money not as many people on welfare, people not procreating to receive more money from the government to spend on themselves.
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| Just Plain Lucky - 2014-10-17 6:09 PM Whiteboy - 2014-10-17 6:18 PM
I'm probably gonna get flamed for this, but...I feel really sorry for anybody that will never know that kind of happiness.
I also wonder if the collapse in moral values in our nation is at least in part because of the lack of interest in marriage and families. If people have nothing to worry about but "themselves" why would they care about the future? (I know this isn't true with everyone) I've heard the first statement so many times before that I'm almost numb to it. Almost. Well maybe not since it's the ultimate insult to people who simply don't want children and those who really can't have them despite wanting them so badly.
The second is a new low, though. Wow, I think I've heard it all now. The crown jewel. The icing on the cake. The piece of resistance. *Slow clap*
First, I'm sorry you are offended by what I said. To those who want children and cant conceive, there are alternatives.
Second, so you believe that family structure is not helpful in developing your own personal values? Some of the very best people I know came from difficult family circumstances, however, it is much harder to have to rise above the problems than it is to never be involved with them. Some people are always looking for justification though, they find oportunities to be offended, and those people don't change their mind very easily. | |
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| cheryl makofka - 2014-10-17 10:24 PM Whiteboy - 2014-10-17 10:06 PM cheryl makofka - 2014-10-17 6:22 PM Whiteboy - 2014-10-17 5:18 PM There is nothing better than when I walk in the door from work and my 2 year old runs up to me yelling, "Datty" and give me a big hug around my leg. No "thing" in this world can ever compare.
I'm probably gonna get flamed for this, but...I feel really sorry for anybody that will never know that kind of happiness.
I also wonder if the collapse in moral values in our nation is at least in part because of the lack of interest in marriage and families. If people have nothing to worry about but "themselves" why would they care about the future? (I know this isn't true with everyone) I have to disagree with your statements IF PEOPLE HAVE NOBODY TO WORRY ABOUT THEMSELVES, WHY WOULD THEY CARE ABOUT THE FUTURE Working in the health care for years, I have about 100 reasons why I choose not to have children, yes some people would my reasons are selfish, but in would say it is me being aware of my limitations and what I am not willing to compromise. I have also heard from board members here and it drives me crazy people have choose to have children, but have admitted their children are not their first. My values my parents instilled in me taught me if you want to have children they need to come first before everything. For me deciding to not have children, I am caring about the future, what I can contribute as a person as an individual, I am also caring about the life I choose not to bring into the world. Personally I think all who want children should have a mental health assessment attend education seminars and be issued a liscence to have a child. This would be doing the future a favor You are a communist aren't you? Not communist, a communist believes in equality, I don't, but since every country supports social assistance; We need to pass a drivers test, we have to apply for a marriage liscence, for certain jobs we need a criminal record check, some mental health assessment. If we had liscences to bear children, all children would then be wanted, every person applying for a liscence would know the inherent risks of children physical, mental, socioeconomic on themselves and the child. This would be making an informed choice. This would save a lot of money not as many people on welfare, people not procreating to receive more money from the government to spend on themselves.
So to hell with personal responsibilty? Right, the gov. knows best. We should also limit it to a certain look, such as only blonds should reproduce. | |
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| hoofs_in_motion - 2014-10-17 9:59 PM
cheryl makofka - 2014-10-17 8:35 PM
RidenFly - 2014-10-17 6:34 PM
cheryl makofka - 2014-10-18 4:22 PM Whiteboy - 2014-10-17 5:18 PM There is nothing better than when I walk in the door from work and my 2 year old runs up to me yelling, "Datty" and give me a big hug around my leg. No "thing" in this world can ever compare.
I'm probably gonna get flamed for this, but...I feel really sorry for anybody that will never know that kind of happiness.
I also wonder if the collapse in moral values in our nation is at least in part because of the lack of interest in marriage and families. If people have nothing to worry about but "themselves" why would they care about the future? (I know this isn't true with everyone) I have to disagree with your statements IF PEOPLE HAVE NOBODY TO WORRY ABOUT THEMSELVES, WHY WOULD THEY CARE ABOUT THE FUTURE Working in the health care for years, I have about 100 reasons why I choose not to have children, yes some people would my reasons are selfish, but in would say it is me being aware of my limitations and what I am not willing to compromise. I have also heard from board members here and it drives me crazy people have choose to have children, but have admitted their children are not their first. My values my parents instilled in me taught me if you want to have children they need to come first before everything. For me deciding to not have children, I am caring about the future, what I can contribute as a person as an individual, I am also caring about the life I choose not to bring into the world. Personally I think all who want children should have a mental health assessment attend education seminars and be issued a liscence to have a child. This would be doing the future a favor Good grief. There would have to be another Czar named by the annoited one to run that department.
Everyone's parents are a little screwed up. So what? We survive anyway.
What about the children born with physical deformities and mental impairment due to their parents smoking/injecting drugs and/or drinking throughout their pregnancies.
What about the children who are sexually abused by their mother/father when they are as little as two years old or even younger.
What about the children who are living in houses where meth is cooked, the meth is absorbed through the skin and inhalation.
What about the kids who are born into gangs or join gangs as there is no other alternative
You cannot tell me these kids are okay.
I'm sorry but I grew up not really knowing my father, my mother smoked method, crack, snorted coke......was a severe alcoholic...so I grew up taking care of myself. NOT ALL KIDS WHO GROWNUP IN HOMES LIKE THAT BECOME SCREW UPS. I grew up knowing that I will better myself and never touch drugs....and to this day, I never have.I do agree that those poor children should never have ever seen that, no they are not okay...and most grow up in foster homes. My heart will always ache for them. And some of those people should never have children because of the hell they put those kids through in life. I've seen it myself, and I will never allowy child to ever look upon that hell I had to see as a child. Rant over, sorry if I get flamed.....but it ticked me off.
No where did I say these children are screw ups, I said these kids are not okay.
The emotional and mental issues these children have to live with every day, I could not even fathom.
Congrats to you for prevailing, you do have my admiration
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| Running Roan - 2014-10-17 10:21 PM Back to the original topic of being childless by choice...
People find happiness in different things. And that's okay. No intervention to save them from "missing out" on your idea of happiness is necessary. Just be happy that they're happy and let them be.
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| Running Roan - 2014-10-17 10:21 PM Back to the original topic of being childless by choice...
People find happiness in different things. And that's okay. No intervention to save them from "missing out" on your idea of happiness is necessary. Just be happy that they're happy and let them be.
Such a great point. Happiness like success is defined differently by each individual.
This great debate reminds me of the battle of the working outside the home moms vs. the stay at home (working) moms..... Instead of encouraging each other many times they belittle each other for their choice or necessity.
People living happy and satisfied is a positive thing for our country. ... of course as long as their happiness and satisfaction is not brought about by illegal actions of cruel actions.
It's not like having children or not having children is an issue where an intervention should be staged to save a person from self-destruction. It's a personal choice. If it's what a person really wants, then great. If it is not what the person wants, then great too.
We need to be concerned about those who have children and don't want them and those who want children, but can't have them. Many children are not a priority and put in very sad situations. Adoption is not an easy process. Invitro and reproductive services are expensive.
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| Whiteboy - 2014-10-17 11:28 PM
Just Plain Lucky - 2014-10-17 6:09 PM Whiteboy - 2014-10-17 6:18 PM
I'm probably gonna get flamed for this, but...I feel really sorry for anybody that will never know that kind of happiness.
I also wonder if the collapse in moral values in our nation is at least in part because of the lack of interest in marriage and families. If people have nothing to worry about but "themselves" why would they care about the future? (I know this isn't true with everyone) I've heard the first statement so many times before that I'm almost numb to it. Almost. Well maybe not since it's the ultimate insult to people who simply don't want children and those who really can't have them despite wanting them so badly.
The second is a new low, though. Wow, I think I've heard it all now. The crown jewel. The icing on the cake. The piece of resistance. *Slow clap*
First, I'm sorry you are offended by what I said. To those who want children and cant conceive, there are alternatives.
Second, so you believe that family structure is not helpful in developing your own personal values? Some of the very best people I know came from difficult family circumstances, however, it is much harder to have to rise above the problems than it is to never be involved with them. Some people are always looking for justification though, they find oportunities to be offended, and those people don't change their mind very easily.
I DO believe that family is important for many different reasons other than child rearing. I don't hate kids, I just don't want any of my own. Why is that wrong, or a symptom of bad character? I take a lot of pride in the way my animals are treated, for example. Their needs come before mine. I spent hours taking care of one of our chickens that got stepped on by a horse...lol. that was fun. | |
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| Just to throw this out there.... I love children and always dreamed of being a momma. As a child and young adult, I naively assumed that it would happen. Sadly, it has not and I am scared that the time has passed me by.
Pray, talk to your husband and do what is right for you.
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| I have always known that I did not want kids. Am past that point in my life and still have yet to regret it.
I grew up the youngest in a family of 8. Have been an aunt since I was 6 and have babysat and changed diapers back in the day when you had to rinse them out in the toilet before you washed them. A very familiar with the responsibilities but none of the "joy". I am floored when people have kids and say they had no idea of how much work and responsibility they are.
Couple that with the slow realization that parents really did not like kids. My mother LOVED babies but was looking for her next baby fix by the time they hit about 2 years old. I do not recall my mother ever telling me that she loved me, or that she ever tried to comfort me when hurt or scared or pretty much any of the things you would expect out of a "mother". My father tried, but he really had no patience for children. Not complaining about how I was raised, to be responsible with good, solid moral values, but there just wasn't much of the touchy, feely, warm fuzzies in my childhood. It took me years to realize that it didn't BE to be that way, but by then I realized that having children with my hubby was not a good idea, especially after helping to raise his daughter and seeing what his idea of parenting is ( he would have never had my back and I would have always been the bad guy).
I can't say that I love kids in general but I love my nieces and nephews. It is my house they come to when they become out of control and their parents can't handle them. I am OK with being an Aunt, not a mom. And I have no idea in the world of how you raise a child to decide for themselves and trust themselves to not fall sway to peer pressure. I never did, but have no idea of how I got that way.
Then you have the daunting task of raising kids in today's world where your rights to parent have become so undermined that you are a parent in name only, and facing a future world that I am actually glad I won't have to see......how could I possibly prepare a child for that??!!
"They" say that when it is your own child, everything changes, but I for one, was not willing to take that chance and end up having a miserable child (due to my shortcomings). Kinda like why I have never drank alcohol, it tastes nasty and I see no point in "learning to like it" as so many folks have told me I need to do. Never have had the baby gene, I see no attraction to tiny infants that make so many women go weak in the knees....why take the chance that I "might" change.
I feel no emptiness in my life and people feel the need to judge me, then go ahead, I could really not care less. You make YOUR decision and do the same. It's no one else's business but you and your husband's.
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      Location: Too Far North | If everyone had kids where would the rich aunties and uncles come from to leave my kids a bundle? I sure am not saving for their inheritance, so somebodies got to do it.
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        Location: southeast Texas | I always knew I didn't want kids. Had a few brain farts, but like the real thing, quickly faded in the wind. | |
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        Location: Oklahoma | I always said I didn't want children. I was a school teacher....taught from the time I graduated college and the ripe old age of 21. I had 3 sisters that all had multiple children (one was told she couldn't have children, so they adopted and later had 2 more biological children) and I had seen 2 of them go through messy divorces and the toll it took on the children, not too mention the many foster kids I taught....so I always just said I didn't want any. My plan was just to marry someone who had been divorced and he would have kids, so I could be a "surrogate" mother....screwed up, I know, but not everyone is real smart when they're 21. lol Dated lots of divorced men, but I ended up with one that had never been married and that didn't have any kids, but really wanted at least one. After a couple of years of marriage, he had pestered me enough that I told him ok, I would try, but if I didn't get pregnant, we weren't going to fertility clinics, etc. He said ok. I figured at 39, my biological clock was probably on its last legs anyway. Not so....first month off birth control....bam....pregnant. I'm not going to say that pregnancy, childbirth and child rearing was the greatest thing ever, but all in all I am very blessed with a wonderful, Godly daughter that has enriched my life in so many ways and made me a better, more caring person than I would have been otherwise. She has been a blessing and I am so glad that I have her now and that my husband talked me into it, but if it had been up to me, I would have lived my life childless and doubt I would have regretted it, because I would not have known what I was missing. I would never belittle anyone for the choices they make. It's their choices and their lives and they're the ones that have to live it, not me. If you feel like you don't want children, you probably don't need one. There are many times that I feel like I wasn't a good mother....like maybe I just missed those genes, but everyone says I'm a great mom....sometimes even my daughter says that (lol)....and I do love children, but I think I just didn't get the nurturing gene....it's just not natural to me. She was never hungry or abused or anything like that, but thank God for a nurturing husband who helped a whole lot along the way. :) I could never have done it without him and God. I figured if God gave her to me to take care of, then He thought I was good enough, so that's all I needed. :) If you want to have children, do. If you don't want to have children, then don't, and don't let other people bother you. It's YOUR life and you have to live it as you see fit.
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        Location: Oklahoma | DLV - 2014-10-17 12:10 PM
So next month I turn 30 and I still have no desire to have kids! Everyone always told me "oh you'll change your mind" "when you get older you'll want kids" etc etc.... but I still really do not! I have no desire to be pregnant, give birth or spend my time raising one or spend $1,000's on a child! When we got married, we both said we really didn't want children but now my husband has said he does and I don't! I have always said if I DID decide I wanted kids, I'd like to adopt an older child but he wants no part of that so we're at a standstill. I'm really not a baby person and don't think I'd enjoy it and knowing my husbands job, he'd not have a lot of time to spend with a child so I'd be doing most of the work. I know everyone says "when it's your own kid it's different" or "you need to have someone to take care of you when you're old" but I don't think it's a responsible decision to just have a kid in hopes that you'll like it or for "someone to take care of you" which just because you have a child is NO gaurentee that they will and the decision is irreversible obviously!! I'd be fine today getting my tubes tied and not looking back but my husband says no as he thinks I'll change my mind! Maybe in time I will change my mind but I'm 30 and don't want to be a super old parent and still don't want to so I'm thinking no! Anyone else feel this way? How do you know? I don't want regrets but really am thinking I'll never change my mind about this! It's not that I don't like kids, I am very involved with them in several ways but after a few hrs, I'm exhausted and ready to give them back to their parents! Any thoughts!?
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| I am so glad this thread exists...
I think I am on the same page of a different book.
I would actually like to have 4 children. Maybe more! Haha.
But I have zero child urges at this time in my life. And unless I want to spend every year pregnant for the foreseeable future, I do not picture how my little clan of babies will work out.
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  Location: The South | I wish I had good advice for you. I completely understand where you're coming from though, I turned 30 this year and I'm not going to have children. I've been married for 5 years and my husband knew how I felt about kids from the beginning. He thought he might want one if I ever changed my mind, but now he says he realizes that with our jobs there's no way we could raise a child properly. So he got snipped this year! At first I freaked out about scheduling his appointment, thinking "what if I change my mind", but ultimately I realized I was being silly. I've always known I didn't want children, and I don't think its something that you suddenly change your mind about. Sorry I'm not much help, but just try not to let anyone's opinions affect your decision. It's your life, not theirs!! | |
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So next month I turn 30 and I still have no desire to have kids! Everyone always told me "oh you'll change your mind" "when you get older you'll want kids" etc etc.... but I still really do not! I have no desire to be pregnant, give birth or spend my time raising one or spend $1,000's on a child! When we got married, we both said we really didn't want children but now my husband has said he does and I don't! I have always said if I DID decide I wanted kids, I'd like to adopt an older child but he wants no part of that so we're at a standstill. I'm really not a baby person and don't think I'd enjoy it and knowing my husbands job, he'd not have a lot of time to spend with a child so I'd be doing most of the work. I know everyone says "when it's your own kid it's different" or "you need to have someone to take care of you when you're old" but I don't think it's a responsible decision to just have a kid in hopes that you'll like it or for "someone to take care of you" which just because you have a child is NO gaurentee that they will and the decision is irreversible obviously!! I'd be fine today getting my tubes tied and not looking back but my husband says no as he thinks I'll change my mind! Maybe in time I will change my mind but I'm 30 and don't want to be a super old parent and still don't want to so I'm thinking no! Anyone else feel this way? How do you know? I don't want regrets but really am thinking I'll never change my mind about this! It's not that I don't like kids, I am very involved with them in several ways but after a few hrs, I'm exhausted and ready to give them back to their parents! Any thoughts!?
Oh honey, you sound exactly like me my entire life......up until a year ago.....I'm 31.5 now, my hubby will be 38 in a couple weeks. We met 6 years ago. We maried 3 years ago. We never wanted kids. I never wanted to be pregnant or give birth. I did not want to feel a baby move inside me. I had absolutely NO interest in children. I didn't want to hold them or even look at their photos or even look at the cute videos on facebook. This past Jan we got a surprise and even though we've always been careful, we found out we were pregnant. At first I was shocked, paniced and terrified. The longer I was pregnant the more excited we both got. My husband would hold every little kid he came across and couldn't wait for his baby to get here so he could hold her and 'tree frog' her on his shoulder. I couldn't wait for her to be here so I could see her, hold her, hear her and eventually take her to shows, buy her a pony and watch her grow. Then our worst nightmare happened. The world stopped. Aug 12, 2014 - 3 weeks before our due date, our beautiful daughter was stillborn. My pregnancy had been picture perfect. They have no reason that this happened other than she must have cut her blood supply off by turning on her cord and pressing against it. We both learned a lot this year. I went from the girl who never wanted to be prgnant or have a baby and wanted to ride my horses to the girl who would be pregnant for 100 years and who would give up my horses, my truck, my trailer, my land, even my dogs, to have my daughter back. Devastated doesn't even describe how we feel. We had so many dreams and plans for her. We were going to give her the world but she chose heaven instead and she's an angel who looks after us. We stop at the cemetery every day. Now we feel like we are in a race against the clock to have a child. But we also feel guilty for trying to have another child. We don't want our daughter to think we are replacing her. She will always be our first born, our oldest and she will always have part of our broken hearts. If we are ever blessed to have another child, the next one will be her brother or sister. At the moment we have a baby room, filled with a crib, clothes, diapers, wipes, changing pad, stoller, car seat, etc, just waiting for a baby. The way I look at everything in this world has changed this year. I would give anything to feel her move inside me again.
My advice - have a baby. You will never regret it.
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So next month I turn 30 and I still have no desire to have kids! Everyone always told me "oh you'll change your mind" "when you get older you'll want kids" etc etc.... but I still really do not! I have no desire to be pregnant, give birth or spend my time raising one or spend $1,000's on a child! When we got married, we both said we really didn't want children but now my husband has said he does and I don't! I have always said if I DID decide I wanted kids, I'd like to adopt an older child but he wants no part of that so we're at a standstill. I'm really not a baby person and don't think I'd enjoy it and knowing my husbands job, he'd not have a lot of time to spend with a child so I'd be doing most of the work. I know everyone says "when it's your own kid it's different" or "you need to have someone to take care of you when you're old" but I don't think it's a responsible decision to just have a kid in hopes that you'll like it or for "someone to take care of you" which just because you have a child is NO gaurentee that they will and the decision is irreversible obviously!! I'd be fine today getting my tubes tied and not looking back but my husband says no as he thinks I'll change my mind! Maybe in time I will change my mind but I'm 30 and don't want to be a super old parent and still don't want to so I'm thinking no! Anyone else feel this way? How do you know? I don't want regrets but really am thinking I'll never change my mind about this! It's not that I don't like kids, I am very involved with them in several ways but after a few hrs, I'm exhausted and ready to give them back to their parents! Any thoughts!?
Oh honey, you sound exactly like me my entire life......up until a year ago.....I'm 31.5 now, my hubby will be 38 in a couple weeks. We met 6 years ago. We maried 3 years ago. We never wanted kids. I never wanted to be pregnant or give birth. I did not want to feel a baby move inside me. I had absolutely NO interest in children. I didn't want to hold them or even look at their photos or even look at the cute videos on facebook. This past Jan we got a surprise and even though we've always been careful, we found out we were pregnant. At first I was shocked, paniced and terrified. The longer I was pregnant the more excited we both got. My husband would hold every little kid he came across and couldn't wait for his baby to get here so he could hold her and 'tree frong' her on his shoulder. I couldn't wait for her to be here so I caould see her, hold her, hear her and eventually take her to shows, buy her a pony and watch her grow. Then our worst nightmare happened. The world stopped. Aug 12, 2014 - 3 weeks before our due date, our beautiful daughter was stillborn. My pregnancy had been picture perfect. They have no reason that this happened other than she must have cut her blood supply off by turning on her cord and pressing against it. We both learned a lot this year. I went from the girl who never wanted to be prgnant or have a baby and wanted to ride my horses to the girl who would be pregnant for 100 years and who would give up my horses, my truck, my trailer, my land, even my dogs, to have my daughter back. Devastated doesn't even describe how we feel. We had so many dreams and plans for her. We were going to give her the world but she chose heaven instead and she's an angel who looks after us. We stop at the cemetery every day. Now we feel like we are in a race against the clock to have a child. But we also feel guilty for trying to have another child. We don't want our daughter to think we are replacing her. She will always be our first born, our oldest and she will always have part of our broken hearts. If we are ever blessed to have another child, the next one will be her brother or sister. At the moment we have a baby room, filled with a crib, clothes, diapers, wipes, changing pad, stoller, car seat, etc, just waiting for a baby. The way I look at everything in this world has changed this year. I would give anything to feel her move inside me again.
My advice - have a baby. You will never regret it.
Your story absolutely breaks my heart. I can only imagine. I thank God every day (I don't just say that, I really do) for my beautiful, healthy children. The love a parent feels for a child - even the unplanned ones - is indescribable.
I had a 'surprise' as my first. I was just like the rest of you, didn't want any, no thank you. I fell in love instantly. Fast forward after a bad divorce and I was 100% sure I was DONE. No more babies. Well... I fell in love with an amazing man who had none. He never asked me, but I knew he wanted one. I'd give anything to make him happy. Now I have four, the last two were born when I was 32 and 36. Thirties are NOT too old to have babies. Your joy will come! | |
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    Location: Stuck in a cubicle having tropical thoughts | I think lots of people take getting pregnant and having a healthy baby for granted (until this year my husband and I were included in that number). The amount of people that have come to us to tell us their baby loss story has been astonishing. I have a friend whose son was born with downs and another whose son had a stroke at one week old and even though he's 5 now, has many health issues. I have a co-worker who is now mid 30s and his wife is around 40. They have tried for years, been to fertility doctors, who desperately want their own baby and they just can't get pregnant.
While at the hospital we had a teardrop on our door. it is the unuversal sign in the hospitals for baby loss so anybody coming in the door knows the situation.
We also received A little box of hope while we were there. It had a clay footprint and handprint kit, along with other items. The family who started the hope boxes in this area had 4 miscarriages and 1 stillbirth before they had their first earthly child.
It's not always easy to get pregnant and have a baby. It truly is a miracle and a blessing.
I used to get pestered daily about having kids. I think everybody, except my mom and dad, has bugged me to have a baby. My in-laws have bugged me the most. People who bug other people to have children might be the rudest. It's each couples choice to have or not have children. And you never know what a couple might be going through personally. | |
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         Location: Louisiana | Nevertooold - 2014-10-17 1:48 PM It seems everytime they do research on this subject the results are that the happiest couples are childless and I have found that to be true with every couple I know that doesn't have kids.
Personally...There is no way I would want to raise or bring a baby up in our New America.
This is one of the reasons my fiance and I don't want to have children. I've never wanted them, I've always known. He knew how I felt but after we had been together a few years and it was obvious we would be together forever, we had a serious talk about it. When we first started dating he did say he wanted kids. I told him, "I need you to accept NOW, that I don't want kids. I understand if you can't, but I don't want to be 40 and get blamed for 'not giving you children'." He said he wanted to be with me, end of story! I am not that great with kids, don't like them in general, don't even hold little babies, etc. He, on the other hand, LOVES kids and they love him. But his reason for not wanting any of his own is the world we live in. We live in a horrible place that is only getting worse as each day goes by- I can't imagine bringing a child into this mess. We decided long ago we would be the cool aunt and uncle, and I do love his two nephews- two of the only babies I like!
Some people-family!-make inappropriate comments sometimes, but whose family doesn't lol. I suspect he had a talk with his mother because she no longer makes the, "Oh, you will change your mind," comments. My favorite line is, "You'll slip up one day and get pregnant!" Gee, thanks-been going babyless for over six years now, it isn't that hard to avoid. For reference, I'm 24 and fiance is 27. Of course, we have talked about how we would parent IF we ever had kids-that's part of a relationship. | |
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    Location: Oregon | I haven't posted yet. If children are not in your future that is OK. I have 2 and cannot imagine life without them. BUT if it is not for you then so be it. Don't let people try and convince you otherwise. Now I patiently wait for grandchildren who I can spoil. But just as I struggled to provide everything for my 2 kids, I cannot begrudge them for working for more and being stable before they start a family.
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          Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | barlracr429 - 2014-10-18 9:26 PM DLV - 2014-10-17 1:10 PM So next month I turn 30 and I still have no desire to have kids! Everyone always told me "oh you'll change your mind" "when you get older you'll want kids" etc etc.... but I still really do not! I have no desire to be pregnant, give birth or spend my time raising one or spend $1,000's on a child! When we got married, we both said we really didn't want children but now my husband has said he does and I don't! I have always said if I DID decide I wanted kids, I'd like to adopt an older child but he wants no part of that so we're at a standstill. I'm really not a baby person and don't think I'd enjoy it and knowing my husbands job, he'd not have a lot of time to spend with a child so I'd be doing most of the work. I know everyone says "when it's your own kid it's different" or "you need to have someone to take care of you when you're old" but I don't think it's a responsible decision to just have a kid in hopes that you'll like it or for "someone to take care of you" which just because you have a child is NO gaurentee that they will and the decision is irreversible obviously!! I'd be fine today getting my tubes tied and not looking back but my husband says no as he thinks I'll change my mind! Maybe in time I will change my mind but I'm 30 and don't want to be a super old parent and still don't want to so I'm thinking no! Anyone else feel this way? How do you know? I don't want regrets but really am thinking I'll never change my mind about this! It's not that I don't like kids, I am very involved with them in several ways but after a few hrs, I'm exhausted and ready to give them back to their parents! Any thoughts!? Oh honey, you sound exactly like me my entire life......up until a year ago.....I'm 31.5 now, my hubby will be 38 in a couple weeks. We met 6 years ago. We maried 3 years ago. We never wanted kids. I never wanted to be pregnant or give birth. I did not want to feel a baby move inside me. I had absolutely NO interest in children. I didn't want to hold them or even look at their photos or even look at the cute videos on facebook. This past Jan we got a surprise and even though we've always been careful, we found out we were pregnant. At first I was shocked, paniced and terrified. The longer I was pregnant the more excited we both got. My husband would hold every little kid he came across and couldn't wait for his baby to get here so he could hold her and 'tree frog' her on his shoulder. I couldn't wait for her to be here so I could see her, hold her, hear her and eventually take her to shows, buy her a pony and watch her grow. Then our worst nightmare happened. The world stopped. Aug 12, 2014 - 3 weeks before our due date, our beautiful daughter was stillborn. My pregnancy had been picture perfect. They have no reason that this happened other than she must have cut her blood supply off by turning on her cord and pressing against it. We both learned a lot this year. I went from the girl who never wanted to be prgnant or have a baby and wanted to ride my horses to the girl who would be pregnant for 100 years and who would give up my horses, my truck, my trailer, my land, even my dogs, to have my daughter back. Devastated doesn't even describe how we feel. We had so many dreams and plans for her. We were going to give her the world but she chose heaven instead and she's an angel who looks after us. We stop at the cemetery every day. Now we feel like we are in a race against the clock to have a child. But we also feel guilty for trying to have another child. We don't want our daughter to think we are replacing her. She will always be our first born, our oldest and she will always have part of our broken hearts. If we are ever blessed to have another child, the next one will be her brother or sister. At the moment we have a baby room, filled with a crib, clothes, diapers, wipes, changing pad, stoller, car seat, etc, just waiting for a baby. The way I look at everything in this world has changed this year. I would give anything to feel her move inside me again. My advice - have a baby. You will never regret it.
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| barlracr429 - 2014-10-18 9:26 PM DLV - 2014-10-17 1:10 PM So next month I turn 30 and I still have no desire to have kids! Everyone always told me "oh you'll change your mind" "when you get older you'll want kids" etc etc.... but I still really do not! I have no desire to be pregnant, give birth or spend my time raising one or spend $1,000's on a child! When we got married, we both said we really didn't want children but now my husband has said he does and I don't! I have always said if I DID decide I wanted kids, I'd like to adopt an older child but he wants no part of that so we're at a standstill. I'm really not a baby person and don't think I'd enjoy it and knowing my husbands job, he'd not have a lot of time to spend with a child so I'd be doing most of the work. I know everyone says "when it's your own kid it's different" or "you need to have someone to take care of you when you're old" but I don't think it's a responsible decision to just have a kid in hopes that you'll like it or for "someone to take care of you" which just because you have a child is NO gaurentee that they will and the decision is irreversible obviously!! I'd be fine today getting my tubes tied and not looking back but my husband says no as he thinks I'll change my mind! Maybe in time I will change my mind but I'm 30 and don't want to be a super old parent and still don't want to so I'm thinking no! Anyone else feel this way? How do you know? I don't want regrets but really am thinking I'll never change my mind about this! It's not that I don't like kids, I am very involved with them in several ways but after a few hrs, I'm exhausted and ready to give them back to their parents! Any thoughts!? Oh honey, you sound exactly like me my entire life......up until a year ago.....I'm 31.5 now, my hubby will be 38 in a couple weeks. We met 6 years ago. We maried 3 years ago. We never wanted kids. I never wanted to be pregnant or give birth. I did not want to feel a baby move inside me. I had absolutely NO interest in children. I didn't want to hold them or even look at their photos or even look at the cute videos on facebook. This past Jan we got a surprise and even though we've always been careful, we found out we were pregnant. At first I was shocked, paniced and terrified. The longer I was pregnant the more excited we both got. My husband would hold every little kid he came across and couldn't wait for his baby to get here so he could hold her and 'tree frog' her on his shoulder. I couldn't wait for her to be here so I could see her, hold her, hear her and eventually take her to shows, buy her a pony and watch her grow. Then our worst nightmare happened. The world stopped. Aug 12, 2014 - 3 weeks before our due date, our beautiful daughter was stillborn. My pregnancy had been picture perfect. They have no reason that this happened other than she must have cut her blood supply off by turning on her cord and pressing against it. We both learned a lot this year. I went from the girl who never wanted to be prgnant or have a baby and wanted to ride my horses to the girl who would be pregnant for 100 years and who would give up my horses, my truck, my trailer, my land, even my dogs, to have my daughter back. Devastated doesn't even describe how we feel. We had so many dreams and plans for her. We were going to give her the world but she chose heaven instead and she's an angel who looks after us. We stop at the cemetery every day. Now we feel like we are in a race against the clock to have a child. But we also feel guilty for trying to have another child. We don't want our daughter to think we are replacing her. She will always be our first born, our oldest and she will always have part of our broken hearts. If we are ever blessed to have another child, the next one will be her brother or sister. At the moment we have a baby room, filled with a crib, clothes, diapers, wipes, changing pad, stoller, car seat, etc, just waiting for a baby. The way I look at everything in this world has changed this year. I would give anything to feel her move inside me again. My advice - have a baby. You will never regret it.
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          Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | dashnlotti - 2014-10-18 11:27 PM Nevertooold - 2014-10-17 1:48 PM It seems everytime they do research on this subject the results are that the happiest couples are childless and I have found that to be true with every couple I know that doesn't have kids.
Personally...There is no way I would want to raise or bring a baby up in our New America. This is one of the reasons my fiance and I don't want to have children. I've never wanted them, I've always known. He knew how I felt but after we had been together a few years and it was obvious we would be together forever, we had a serious talk about it. When we first started dating he did say he wanted kids.
I told him, "I need you to accept NOW, that I don't want kids. I understand if you can't, but I don't want to be 40 and get blamed for 'not giving you children'." He said he wanted to be with me, end of story!
I am not that great with kids, don't like them in general, don't even hold little babies, etc. He, on the other hand, LOVES kids and they love him. But his reason for not wanting any of his own is the world we live in. We live in a horrible place that is only getting worse as each day goes by- I can't imagine bringing a child into this mess. We decided long ago we would be the cool aunt and uncle, and I do love his two nephews- two of the only babies I like!
Some people-family!-make inappropriate comments sometimes, but whose family doesn't lol. I suspect he had a talk with his mother because she no longer makes the, "Oh, you will change your mind," comments. My favorite line is, "You'll slip up one day and get pregnant!" Gee, thanks-been going babyless for over six years now, it isn't that hard to avoid.
For reference, I'm 24 and fiance is 27.
Of course, we have talked about how we would parent IF we ever had kids-that's part of a relationship.
My husband and I were preventing when number 2 decided it was time to come into the world. If you are meant to have a child, God finds a way to make it happen.
As for "this horrible world we live in"... I do worry about what my kids will have to deal with in the future, but we are raising them as best we know how and will leave the rest to God and His plan. Because if they were not supposed to be here, they would not have been born. | |
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