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Location: MD | I understand your frustration.
but, offense TAKEN. worry about yourself and what works for you, not what works for everyone else. You said it yourself that accidents happen. So why are you surprised when you see videos of just that, accidents happening?
We ALL enjoy the love of barrel racing and as soon as we are done tearing each other down and start building each other up, the sport will be fun again.
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| Did you know that unless you have a green horse that needs help all the way around the barrel, that it's USUALLY better to hold the horn going around the barrel so that you can push your butt down in the saddle, and then will be holding the horn already and can pull against it to help you stay with your horse? Funny that most of the CHAMPION and NFR barrel racers I know of all grab their horn.
I know on my finished horses I get much better turns if I remember to grab my horn. |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | Crowned Image - 2014-10-23 6:36 AM I understand your frustration. but, offense TAKEN. worry about yourself and what works for you, not what works for everyone else. You said it yourself that accidents happen. So why are you surprised when you see videos of just that, accidents happening? We ALL enjoy the love of barrel racing and as soon as we are done tearing each other down and start building each other up, the sport will be fun again. best of luck to you.
Agreed....... 
To the OP.........Generalities about ANY subject is just that....to "lump" every one into the same category (drunks, bad riders, etc) is asinine.....you are NO better than those who start rumors! |
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Location: In a happy place | luvinrunnin - 2014-10-23 6:42 AM Did you know that unless you have a green horse that needs help all the way around the barrel, that it's USUALLY better to hold the horn going around the barrel so that you can push your butt down in the saddle, and then will be holding the horn already and can pull against it to help you stay with your horse? Funny that most of the CHAMPION and NFR barrel racers I know of all grab their horn. I know on my finished horses I get much better turns if I remember to grab my horn.
Took the words right out of my mouth! Just remember THAT horn doesn't honk.
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Hungarian Midget Woman
Location: Midwest | you have too much time on your hands, op |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | FYI, Using the horn properly in the turns to help you stay in the middle of the horse without balancing on the reins is considered GOOD horsemanship. Aside from that, I suppose those of us lacking the perfect balance of our youths should just quit? Boo!  |
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| I have such perfect balance I don't even need to ride!! I just play barrel racing video games and I am a pro barrel racer. I expect to win everytime I get on my horse on the computer or my real one.   |
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| Three 4 Luck - 2014-10-23 8:59 AM FYI, Using the horn properly in the turns to help you stay in the middle of the horse without balancing on the reins is considered GOOD horsemanship. Aside from that, I suppose those of us lacking the perfect balance of our youths should just quit? Boo!
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The Advice Guru
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| By your rant you have disrespected every NFR, futurity trainer out there by saying they have bad horsemanship cause they grab the horn.
Your rant is very sad, as it says a lot about you in a negative way |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Wow really?!!!!!
All the great barrels racers I know and the ones that just do it for the fun of it all use the horn at times during their runs its there for a reason its a tool that we need, its not just for hanging on but its to help make your runs better.
Yept I agree to much time on your hands, I dont worry about what others do I just go my marry way and do my own thing.
And horsemanship is all about knowing how to ride and useing that horn. |
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| Honestly, the times I actually made good turns were when I quit messing around and just grabbed the horn. People in equitation based disciplines have been picking on us for that reason for ages. The fact that the horn helps keep horse and rider happy is something they can't comprehend. The last thing we need is our own ripping other people appart for using a an effective strategy. The bashing from the people on our side of the fence gets old. In barrel racing the horn is there for a reason. You don't have to use it if it's not your preference or style, but don't trash a whole group of people (including those in the top 15). |
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Location: Montana | LIKE!
However, I must say, that while good balance is a good thing, stuff happens while riding (whether barrel racing or not) that can throw you off balance...and they put that horn on the saddle for a reason, and if it helps, so be it.
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Location: Alberta | luvinrunnin - 2014-10-23 5:42 AM Did you know that unless you have a green horse that needs help all the way around the barrel, that it's USUALLY better to hold the horn going around the barrel so that you can push your butt down in the saddle, and then will be holding the horn already and can pull against it to help you stay with your horse? Funny that most of the CHAMPION and NFR barrel racers I know of all grab their horn. I know on my finished horses I get much better turns if I remember to grab my horn.
Ditto! I only know of one lady who rarely uses her horn, she is a top futurity trainer up here and it's the way she rides! |
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Location: In The Snow, AZ | Everyone has an opinion. Take it worth a grain of salt.
I happen to be one who pops up more when I grab the horn. I "feel" I do better riding two handed thru the turn. In saying that, I also think we should be able to balance and sit whether grabbing the horn or not. My opinion, grain of salt. |
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Location: Tulsa, Ok | I would guess that you have yet to ride a big, extremely powerful and quick athlete. |
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Location: Northeast SD | My rant would be people not grabbing onto their saddlehorns around the barrel! Even if you feel like you aren't off balance you are moving to try to keep in balance with your horse and that will throw them off... Grab onto the saddle horse and sit down will keep you with your horse...    |
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| I personally would love to never HAFT to sit and ride like Troy hustling one the whole way. He's always 3 strides ahead of one knowing what it is going to do before it gets there. |
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Location: Cocoa, Florida | I was never taught to "hold" my horn for balance, I was taught to push myself back with the horn to sit straight up around my turns and not flop over the horses neck.
I can personally say I've rode my whole life and have still bounced a little here and there, but I do my best to stay in shape and do core exercises to keep myself strong and balanced.
I don't laugh or get mad at anyone just starting out we need to offer help rather then critique because everyone has to start somewhere! No one is a pro right away. |
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| RnRJack - 2014-10-23 2:16 PM
I was never taught to "hold" my horn for balance, I was taught to push myself back with the horn to sit straight up around my turns and not flop over the horses neck.
I can personally say I've rode my whole life and have still bounced a little here and there, but I do my best to stay in shape and do core exercises to keep myself strong and balanced.
I don't laugh or get mad at anyone just starting out we need to offer help rather then critique because everyone has to start somewhere! No one is a pro right away.
I have given lots of lessons and balance is the first thing I work on. That takes time and everyone is different. I guess since she is from down under maybe they don't have saddle horns yet. Just kidding! I played polo cross and those aussie stock saddles are awesome. I agree everyone has to start somewhere and there are people like me just getting back into things too. |
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Location: Beggs, OK | She is just a victim of young mind....large mouth. I can only thank God that the internet, FB, and BHW were not available when I was younger. There's no telling what sort of trouble I might have found myself in. Sometimes we just get excited about what we think we know and want to tell everyone.
Some of her old posts that I just looked at will give you an idea of her level of knowledge and ability....and make you feel a bit silly for even arguing the finer points of horsemanship. |
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Location: Washington | Before you string her up let me explain one thing, a lot of Aussie riders ride in Aussie saddles, hell I saw some that rode in jockey saddles. SO there are no horns. Now your top barrel riders over there do ride in barrel saddles and know what the horn is for....this gal seems to not understand that.
XXX you might want to hold your opinions to yourself. We lived over there for a year and we rodeoed with some great people, they were nothing like your talking about...nothing. Hope your healing well....now get off the computer and do some P.T. |
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| I made my first run in 20yrs a few weeks ago and I didn't use my horn.... simply because I plum FORGOT to!!! Lol! I think I was so focused on trying to remember to go left first on this horse. When I came out my hubby was like "I cannot freakin believe you did that twohanded"!! I had to watch the video because I was almost positive I was grabbing the horn... lol!!!! Ah well I had a blast! |
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| I am not one to tell anyone how they should ride, I am not a perfect horseman so I dont preach to others about what they should or shouldnt do. So if she wants to not touch the horn I guess thats what works for her..her business ect.
I do have to say thought her experience with rodeo people is much different than mine. I realize we live two worlds apart. Rodeo for me is a family oriented sport. Most contestants I am around have too much time and money tied up to not treat it with some amount of seriousness. I travel with my husband, his partner, wife, and child. Lots of others pack up the whole family and take down the road as well. I know the negative stuff happens but its minimal compared to the positive (in my experience). |
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Location: Cocoa, Florida | I know ladies in their 40-50s who are just starting out, as well as my step mom, yah she doesn't have the greatest seat but we have a horse that will take care of her no matter what.
I know girls who flop all over their horses and look like terrible riders but they clean house and win all day long, guess it doesn't matter how you get it done, different strokes for different folks. I was always taught to be a quiet rider so my horses stay light and easy. I struggle riding my free running filly but we will get it.
Don't discourage people from trying and having fun just because they are new or not the best riders!!!! |
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Location: White Mountains of AZ | When I start my young horses, yes I will use two hands for a while. But when you start really running fast and turning hard, it's nice to have extra help! I as well was never taught to use the saddle horn for balance. When I first started running barrels I was on a slower 3d-4d horse and I was against holding the horn!!! But after getting quicker and riding higher caliber of horses, you better believe I use that horn to push my butt down pull my butt up!!! And even though I use my horn, I always get complimented on my balance and horsemanship?..I guess other people don't understand that holding the horn means you don't have any of that... :o
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Location: Drifting in the wind..... | fatchance - 2014-10-24 6:26 AM
Before you string her up let me explain one thing, a lot of Aussie riders ride in Aussie saddles, hell I saw some that rode in jockey saddles. SO there are no horns. Now your top barrel riders over there do ride in barrel saddles and know what the horn is for....this gal seems to not understand that.
XXX you might want to hold your opinions to yourself. We lived over there for a year and we rodeoed with some great people, they were nothing like your talking about...nothing. Hope your healing well....now get off the computer and do some P.T.
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| So is it okay to use the saddle horn to pick up the saddle and to throw it up on the horse? |
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Location: Southeast Louisiana | rowdy256 - 2014-10-23 10:19 PM
So is it okay to use the saddle horn to pick up the saddle and to throw it up on the horse?
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Nita - 2014-10-24 12:58 AM rowdy256 - 2014-10-23 10:19 PM So is it okay to use the saddle horn to pick up the saddle and to throw it up on the horse?
Now I can say that I dont use the horn to saddle,  |
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| Southtxponygirl - 2014-10-24 10:15 AM
Nita - 2014-10-24 12:58 AM rowdy256 - 2014-10-23 10:19 PM So is it okay to use the saddle horn to pick up the saddle and to throw it up on the horse?
Okay I am guilty 50% of the time doing that. On my trail horse monster 17 hands I do, on my midget 14 hands nope! |
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| Am I the only one who missed what the OP said? Im totally confused. |
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| TNcowgirl88 - 2014-10-24 11:24 AM
Am I the only one who missed what the OP said? Im totally confused.
In a nutshell if you use your saddle horn when riding or running barrels you suck! One has no balance and can't ride if you use that contraption affixed on your saddle. |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | rowdy256 - 2014-10-24 12:00 PM TNcowgirl88 - 2014-10-24 11:24 AM Am I the only one who missed what the OP said? Im totally confused. In a nutshell if you use your saddle horn when riding or running barrels you suck! One has no balance and can't ride if you use that contraption affixed on your saddle.
Do you think that she kind of noticed that it wasn't a good "idea" to "diss" barrel racers on a barrel forum......
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A Somebody to Everybody
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | NJJ - 2014-10-24 12:12 PM rowdy256 - 2014-10-24 12:00 PM TNcowgirl88 - 2014-10-24 11:24 AM Am I the only one who missed what the OP said? Im totally confused. In a nutshell if you use your saddle horn when riding or running barrels you suck! One has no balance and can't ride if you use that contraption affixed on your saddle.
Do you think that she kind of noticed that it wasn't a good "idea" to "diss" barrel racers on a barrel forum......
Yep I agree,,,Wrong place to be ranting on barrel racers and useing their saddle horns during a run. |
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| Southtxponygirl - 2014-10-24 12:27 PM
NJJ - 2014-10-24 12:12 PM rowdy256 - 2014-10-24 12:00 PM TNcowgirl88 - 2014-10-24 11:24 AM Am I the only one who missed what the OP said? Im totally confused. In a nutshell if you use your saddle horn when riding or running barrels you suck! One has no balance and can't ride if you use that contraption affixed on your saddle.
Do you think that she kind of noticed that it wasn't a good "idea" to "diss" barrel racers on a barrel forum......
hmmmmmm..... well.... I guess I am in the front row of the " I use my saddle horn because I and a drunk unbalanced rider"
thanks for the update1
Can I get a horn on the broom I just rode in on? |
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Location: Illinois | I missed the original rant, bashing, crazy talk as well..
I always use my horn, if I didn't I would go flying off my horse as we round the barrel. I also use it to push my fat butt out of the saddle when I am posting at the jog |
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| ShortyHorse11 - 2014-10-24 1:23 PM
I missed the original rant, bashing, crazy talk as well..
I always use my horn, if I didn't I would go flying off my horse as we round the barrel. I also use it to push my fat butt out of the saddle when I am posting at the jog
Oh nooooo you too???? Slacker like the rest if us!!! |
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| Southtxponygirl - 2014-10-24 12:27 PM
NJJ - 2014-10-24 12:12 PM rowdy256 - 2014-10-24 12:00 PM TNcowgirl88 - 2014-10-24 11:24 AM Am I the only one who missed what the OP said? Im totally confused. In a nutshell if you use your saddle horn when riding or running barrels you suck! One has no balance and can't ride if you use that contraption affixed on your saddle.
Do you think that she kind of noticed that it wasn't a good "idea" to "diss" barrel racers on a barrel forum......
I thought the saddle horn was an inconvenient accessory, that is some sort of bra trap!!! |
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Location: on my horse | rowdy256 - 2014-10-24 4:54 PM
Southtxponygirl - 2014-10-24 12:27 PM
NJJ - 2014-10-24 12:12 PM rowdy256 - 2014-10-24 12:00 PM TNcowgirl88 - 2014-10-24 11:24 AM Am I the only one who missed what the OP said? Im totally confused. In a nutshell if you use your saddle horn when riding or running barrels you suck! One has no balance and can't ride if you use that contraption affixed on your saddle.
Do you think that she kind of noticed that it wasn't a good "idea" to "diss" barrel racers on a barrel forum......
I thought the saddle horn was an inconvenient accessory, that is some sort of bra trap!!!
the dreaded bra trap!!!! For the first time ever I hooked my bra on my saddle horn this summer! I borrowed my mom's horse to make a run on (he used to be mine, sniff sniff) and surprise! I was stuck hahaha |
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| I have done it a bunch now. The bra trap is a pretty good invention. Just remember gravity sucks and that is in the design of the bra trap! |
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Location: Montana | TNcowgirl88 - 2014-10-24 12:00 PM Southtxponygirl - 2014-10-24 12:27 PM NJJ - 2014-10-24 12:12 PM rowdy256 - 2014-10-24 12:00 PM TNcowgirl88 - 2014-10-24 11:24 AM Am I the only one who missed what the OP said? Im totally confused. In a nutshell if you use your saddle horn when riding or running barrels you suck! One has no balance and can't ride if you use that contraption affixed on your saddle.
Do you think that she kind of noticed that it wasn't a good "idea" to "diss" barrel racers on a barrel forum......
hmmmmmm..... well.... I guess I am in the front row of the " I use my saddle horn because I and a drunk unbalanced rider" thanks for the update1 Can I get a horn on the broom I just rode in on?
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| mtcanchazer - 2014-10-24 7:46 PM
TNcowgirl88 - 2014-10-24 12:00 PM Southtxponygirl - 2014-10-24 12:27 PM NJJ - 2014-10-24 12:12 PM rowdy256 - 2014-10-24 12:00 PM TNcowgirl88 - 2014-10-24 11:24 AM Am I the only one who missed what the OP said? Im totally confused. In a nutshell if you use your saddle horn when riding or running barrels you suck! One has no balance and can't ride if you use that contraption affixed on your saddle.
Do you think that she kind of noticed that it wasn't a good "idea" to "diss" barrel racers on a barrel forum......
hmmmmmm..... well.... I guess I am in the front row of the " I use my saddle horn because I and a drunk unbalanced rider" thanks for the update1 Can I get a horn on the broom I just rode in on?
I thought witches brooms had a saddle horn to begin with!! |
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Location: SE Louisiana | rowdy256 - 2014-10-24 8:00 PM
mtcanchazer - 2014-10-24 7:46 PM
TNcowgirl88 - 2014-10-24 12:00 PM Southtxponygirl - 2014-10-24 12:27 PM NJJ - 2014-10-24 12:12 PM rowdy256 - 2014-10-24 12:00 PM TNcowgirl88 - 2014-10-24 11:24 AM Am I the only one who missed what the OP said? Im totally confused. In a nutshell if you use your saddle horn when riding or running barrels you suck! One has no balance and can't ride if you use that contraption affixed on your saddle.
Do you think that she kind of noticed that it wasn't a good "idea" to "diss" barrel racers on a barrel forum......
hmmmmmm..... well.... I guess I am in the front row of the " I use my saddle horn because I and a drunk unbalanced rider" thanks for the update1 Can I get a horn on the broom I just rode in on?
I thought witches brooms had a saddle horn to begin with!!
So let me get this straight..... every time you grab the saddle horn.... the horse farts loudly? |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | komet. - 2014-10-24 9:34 PM rowdy256 - 2014-10-24 8:00 PM mtcanchazer - 2014-10-24 7:46 PM TNcowgirl88 - 2014-10-24 12:00 PM Southtxponygirl - 2014-10-24 12:27 PM NJJ - 2014-10-24 12:12 PM rowdy256 - 2014-10-24 12:00 PM TNcowgirl88 - 2014-10-24 11:24 AM Am I the only one who missed what the OP said? Im totally confused. In a nutshell if you use your saddle horn when riding or running barrels you suck! One has no balance and can't ride if you use that contraption affixed on your saddle.
Do you think that she kind of noticed that it wasn't a good "idea" to "diss" barrel racers on a barrel forum......
hmmmmmm..... well.... I guess I am in the front row of the " I use my saddle horn because I and a drunk unbalanced rider" thanks for the update1 Can I get a horn on the broom I just rode in on? I thought witches brooms had a saddle horn to begin with!! So let me get this straight..... every time you grab the saddle horn.... the horse farts loudly?
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