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Always Amazed
Reg. Feb 2008
Posted 2014-10-25 8:10 AM
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Just wondering everyone's thoughts on this????? I don't trust vaccines but seems I get sick every year. Have weak immune system but know if if they really help?
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rodeomom3
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2014-10-25 8:29 AM
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I have never had one. Since starting exercising and eating healthy, I don't ever get sick- one cold in 4 years that lasted less than 48 hours. I would not get a flu shot anyway though- not convinced of their effectiveness. I have friends who get them and still get sick every year. It may lessen the symptoms, IDK- I don't like the idea of introducing/putting things into my system unless absolutely necessary.
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RacingQH
Reg. Aug 2004
Posted 2014-10-25 8:30 AM
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I haven't had a flu shot since 1987. (And then it was because I was in the Army and we didn't have a choice.) But I also have a strong immune system. I haven't had so much as a cold for 9 years. (Even though I am around others that do get sick.)
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TSlashO
Reg. Sep 2011
Posted 2014-10-25 8:47 AM
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Im an RN in a clinic. I agree with the above posters. Im not sold on their effectiveness. People who live healthy lifestyles have a much easier time fending off illnesses.
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Three 4 Luck
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2014-10-25 8:54 AM
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 We don't do flu shots in our house.  I've never seen them be very effective, many people have reactions to and illness following the shots, and IMO it couldn't be good to shoot that crap into your body year after year (the adjuvants and preservatives), especially if you have a system prone to autoimmune disease.    I've had the flu a couple of times, last time was 98 or 99. My mom had the flu 2 years ago after getting the shot-- the strains didn't match up, she had type B and the shot was type A, if I remember correctly.  It was her first flu shot and the first time she had caught the flu in decades.  I was in her house every day when she was sick and none of us got it.  
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kmcsunshine
Reg. May 2007
Posted 2014-10-25 8:56 AM
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I have NEVER gotten the flu when I get a shot, have gotten it most years when I did not get the shot.  I will get one asap. 
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Always Amazed
Reg. Feb 2008
Posted 2014-10-25 10:33 AM
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Thanks for your replies.....i am so on the fence about this....wish I didn't get sick so easy!!! Wish hot bear would comment:)
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jbw tx mom
Reg. Aug 2007
Posted 2014-10-25 11:13 AM
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I will be the odd woman out. I am an RN and husband is a Pharmacist and we own a small town drug store. We encourage all of our employees to get their free flu shot because we have so many customers that come in sick. Over the last 32 years it never fails the employees who do not take the flu and pneumonia shot are out sick for days. Since we are a rural store our customers are on a first name basis and we have seen many elderly and or immune compromised customers become really ill require days or weeks of hospital treatment when they did not take the flu shot that year. I highly recommend it in your situation.
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docschic
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2014-10-25 11:32 AM
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I don't get a flu shot because I very rarely get sick.  I see no need in my situation however my husband has gotten Type A flu twice so this year he got the shot.  I do however believe there is a value to these vaccines and shots.  I got the pneumonia shot back in 1999 and have since then very rarely gotten colds or sinus infections.  The reason I got the pneumonia shot was because I was getting sinus infections every 6 weeks the the PA finally told me we had to try something different.  She said she didn't know if it would work or not but it was worth a try.  I'm a huge believer in it helping me. 
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vjls
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2014-10-25 11:37 AM
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I don/t get it never have I also never get sick seriously last tome I was really sicky was early 80's. I have a time now and then I don/t feel good but not sick
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Kcaughran
Reg. Dec 2008
Posted 2014-10-25 12:23 PM
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I have had the flu shot, but can you get the pneumonia shot with the flu shot too, or do you have to wait awhile?.
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Always Amazed
Reg. Feb 2008
Posted 2014-10-25 12:24 PM
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I have severe allergies which I think lowers my immune system and makes me pic up colds and viruses easier......then when I do get sick, it lasts forever.maybe it's time to try it
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HorseMommyFiveO
Reg. Jan 2012
Posted 2014-10-25 12:45 PM
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My husband and I and all four kids get it every year. I can't remember the last time any of us got sick. At all. We eat healthy, exercise, wash hands, and keep up on all vaccines.

Part of getting vaccinated is to protect the immune compromised who share your community.
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docschic
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2014-10-25 12:53 PM
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Kcaughran - 2014-10-25 12:23 PM I have had the flu shot, but can you get the pneumonia shot with the flu shot too, or do you have to wait awhile?.

You should be able to get both from what I understand but it may be age dependent too. 
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Three 4 Luck
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2014-10-25 12:55 PM
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HorseMommyFiveO - 2014-10-25 12:45 PM My husband and I and all four kids get it every year. I can't remember the last time any of us got sick. At all. We eat healthy, exercise, wash hands, and keep up on all vaccines. Part of getting vaccinated is to protect the immune compromised who share your community.

 I prefer to do that by staying my ass home when I'm sick.  
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Lobo
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2014-10-25 1:20 PM
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I can't remember the last time I had the flu.  But, I've had a flu shot ever since it was offered.  LOL  I also get the pnuemonia shot ever since it has been offered. 

I'm 82 and survived cancer.  The doctor's say I'm pretty dang healthy.  I intend to stay that way. LOL  The last thing I want is the flu or pneumonia! 

The pneumonia shot is good for 5 years, but the flu shot is every year.  And you can get both at the same time.  



  
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mtcanchazer
Reg. Apr 2012
Posted 2014-10-25 2:16 PM
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I've always been on the fence about flu shots too. I'd get them one year, and the next year not. But my dad gets extremely sick if he gets a cold or flu (he gets a flu shot every year, and got a pneumonia shot last year), so last year I got one because of that and I don't think I got sick but maybe once. So, I got a flu shot again this year. 
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rowdy256
Reg. Aug 2008
Posted 2014-10-25 2:35 PM
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I get a flu shot. I work with people who claim to be healthy but really aren't. They come to work sick and get us all sick. I might get a runny nose for a day when they show up sick.
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HorseMommyFiveO
Reg. Jan 2012
Posted 2014-10-25 2:45 PM
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Three 4 Luck - 2014-10-25 12:55 PM

HorseMommyFiveO - 2014-10-25 12:45 PM My husband and I and all four kids get it every year. I can't remember the last time any of us got sick. At all. We eat healthy, exercise, wash hands, and keep up on all vaccines. Part of getting vaccinated is to protect the immune compromised who share your community.

 I prefer to do that by staying my ass home when I'm sick.  

That's always good but immune compromised people (on radiation or chemo, or some auto immune disorders) can get extremely sick from you before you show symptoms or are even just a carrier.
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wimpyb
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2014-10-25 4:31 PM
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I just got a flu shot along with the shingles shot this year. I have no plans on getting sick if I can help it!
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dhdqhllc
Reg. Feb 2011
Posted 2014-10-25 5:08 PM
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i don't bother with the flu shot
 
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Tailwind
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2014-10-25 5:27 PM
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I get a flu shot every year, have been for the last 15, except one year and that was the year I got the flu, trust me, if you can prevent it, do so.  Its pretty ruff
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Nevertooold
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2014-10-25 6:12 PM
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I've never had one. I'm too sensitive to drugs so I'm not chancing it.
 
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flashflud
Reg. Feb 2004
Posted 2014-10-25 10:05 PM
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 Got the flu shot once, was sick all winter. Never again. Now I get a bad cold about once a year, but that's it. And I'm a teacher in a prison, so get exposed to all kinds of sickness. 
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Reg. Feb 2005
Posted 2014-10-26 8:11 AM
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I'm 51 and NEVER HAD ONE AND NEVER WILL!  Read the ingredients and then ask yourself, WHY? 
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janjan1
Reg. Jul 2006
Posted 2014-10-26 8:33 AM
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I turned 60 in August, same as my husband who is on dialysis. We have gotten the flu shots for the past several years since we are both in the health care field. I'm a retired nurse as well. We have not had any problems or flu like symptoms since taking the shots in the past. However this year I did. After getting the injection I immediately started having achy sniffles with general flu like issues. But after a week I was back to normal. Since our insurance pays totally for the shots, and my husband has a compromised health issues anyway, we will continue to hedge our bets that it will work.
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RocketPilot
Reg. Jun 2006
Posted 2014-10-26 11:28 AM
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My husband and I started getting the flu shots when they started offering them at work probably 30 years ago.  We have not had any problems with them.  Might get a cold during the winter, but not the flu.  As we get older, I see no reason to stop.  The science has to be better now than 30 years so, I would think.  Probably getting the pnemonia shot this year if the doctor recommends it.
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KatieMac88
Reg. Apr 2012
Posted 2014-10-26 1:58 PM
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 I'm a teacher and around germy kids all the time so I always get one. Never any issues with it. 
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hammer_time
Reg. Jul 2007
Posted 2014-10-26 4:12 PM
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 I've never gotten the flu....when I lived in San Diego and was working with the public (car rental) I got my flu shot because I was exposed to a lot of people from all over.  When I got my office job the next ear, I opted out.  I'll probably opt out again because I don't come into contact with a lot of people and am not flying this holiday season.  I would usually get a miserable 2 week cold after traveling home for the holidays to a colder climate--but that's it.  
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chicks2
Reg. Mar 2007
Posted 2014-10-26 9:43 PM
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Have gotten one every year for about the last 10 years or so. Had the flu once, when they had the outbreak back in the 80's with the strain similar to the flu of the early 1900's. I was sick for almost a month. So if you feel bad 3, or 4 days after the shot, which I've heard of but it's never happened to me, well, that's a walk in the park compared to the real deal.
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TheOldGrayMare
Reg. Nov 2009
Posted 2014-10-26 11:24 PM
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 I usually get mine every year. Last year when I didn't I got nasty sick.
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Griz
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2014-10-27 5:37 AM
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I stopped getting them about 10 years ago and I quit getting sick for the most part. A couple of years ago I did get the flu - tested positive, my doctor told me if I had gotten the shot, it wouldn't have prevented it because I had a different strain than the one they vaccinated for - since all that is an educated guess as to which strain will be going around. I opt to try to keep my immune system healthy and get plenty of SLEEP to avoid the flu.  
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river runner
Reg. Jun 2006
Posted 2014-10-27 6:14 AM
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I am around 350 kids every day! I see kids come to school sick all of the time and then get sent home 2 hours later after they have came in contact with 100 others! I always get mine.
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Frodo
Reg. Jul 2004
Posted 2014-10-27 6:41 AM
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 I don't get flu shots.  Last year at work one person got a flu shot and she was the only one to get the flu.....gone for a week.  Had lunch with a friend yesterday.  She got a flu shot last winter and was deathly sick for two weeks......with the flu.

 
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Always Amazed
Reg. Feb 2008
Posted 2014-10-27 7:17 AM
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So... sounds like they work unless you get a different strain than the shot:( I am most worried about the chemicals involved in the vaccine and later effects of it....
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TrailGirl
Reg. Jan 2014
Posted 2014-10-27 7:34 AM
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My decision is easy.  Where I work University of Arkansas for Medical Sciences...Flu shots are MANDATORY for all employees.  You can technically opt out...with completion of paperwork etc.  But then you would need to wear a mask to avoid possibly spreading the flu during peak season.  We have a lot of patients here undergoing all kinds of treatments including radiation etc in the cancer center.  I know that is a big part of what drives the mandatory vaccination effort.

For me...I used to not get the shot...just busy and didn't see the importance.  Then I got the flu one year...and missed 2 weeks of work.  I almost never call in sick...ever...and I wanted to hurry up and die to get it over with.  It was bad.  So far with the shot I've not had any issues and of course no flu.  You cannot get the flu from the vaccine.  It's not a live virus.  BUT...if your immune system doesn't respond and build immunity you can still be vulnerable to the flu. And/or you can get a strain not covered by this year's vaccination.  Though generally since they are close in composition...you may get some benefit and a less severe illness if you had the vaccine.

If you chose not to get the vaccine...do all you can to boost your immune system.  And wash hands frequently...especially after touching public doors/hand rails etc.  I also use the theory of taking the stairs as much as I can instead of the elevator.  Sick people don't typically take the stairs here at work.  

 
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rachellyn80
Reg. Jan 2004
Posted 2014-10-27 8:46 AM
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 This is the first time I've ever taken one.  Our babies Neonatologist recommended that we all get one this year since we have preemies in the house.  So far they have been incredibly healthy.  I could not forgive myself if they were to get sick from something that we could have easily prevented.
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mruggles
Reg. Oct 2008
Posted 2014-10-27 9:07 AM
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Three 4 Luck
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2014-10-27 9:10 AM
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rachellyn80 - 2014-10-27 8:46 AM  This is the first time I've ever taken one.  Our babies Neonatologist recommended that we all get one this year since we have preemies in the house.  So far they have been incredibly healthy.  I could not forgive myself if they were to get sick from something that we could have easily prevented.

 That would be one of very few situations I would actually consider getting one.  It's always risk vs benefit.
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RodeoCowgirl4u
Reg. Aug 2012
Posted 2014-10-27 9:40 AM
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I was told that since I am 7 1/2 months pregnant that I have to get one for baby. I'm not too sure about this, since I started eating Paleo I havent' gotten sick in a year and a half, pregnant or not. Everyone in my office goes to trade shows, travels internationally, etc...and there is always some kind of crap going around and everyone catches it but me. I don't want to get a flu shot, but I also would kill myself if I hurt my baby over something so trivial. :-/
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barrelracr131
Reg. Aug 2011
Posted 2014-10-27 10:14 AM
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I get one every year. It's not a big deal and I have not gotten the flu on the years I have taken it thus far. It is required by my employer and they pay for it, so I just get the vaccine every year. 
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horsesinharleton
Reg. Sep 2009
Posted 2014-10-27 10:20 AM
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Already got mine and my employer paid for it. My shot covers 4 different strains of the flu. I get one every year and have had the flu one time since getting the shots. I can tell you that having had the flu when I didn't get a shot was 100X worse than when I got the flu after taking the shot. I will continue to get them.
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rachellyn80
Reg. Jan 2004
Posted 2014-10-27 10:23 AM
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Three 4 Luck - 2014-10-27 9:10 AM
rachellyn80 - 2014-10-27 8:46 AM  This is the first time I've ever taken one.  Our babies Neonatologist recommended that we all get one this year since we have preemies in the house.  So far they have been incredibly healthy.  I could not forgive myself if they were to get sick from something that we could have easily prevented.
 That would be one of very few situations I would actually consider getting one.  It's always risk vs benefit.

We also took the Tdap vaccine before we left the hospital.  There are so many scary things that can alter a babies life when they have a compromised immune system.  We were told that if they contracted RSV in the first year of life they were almost guaranteed to have asthma.  I was able to keep them on breastmilk for four months to do the most I could for them.  

I hate all the vaccines, but I'm also very aware of the diseases that are crossing our borders daily.
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myhre
Reg. Aug 2009
Posted 2014-10-27 7:50 PM
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daisycake123
Reg. Dec 2006
Posted 2014-10-27 8:17 PM
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I have been getting them for years, first when i cared for my dad who,was old and the flu was bad for him. Now i have severe asthma and when it flares up it is bad for me takes me weeks to get over, i also have ra. The flu makes people with health problems very sick. If ypu where to,see me when i am well you would never jnow i have asthma but when i get sick it is bad. i got a bug with a sinus infection, went into bronchitis and it has flared my asthma terrible. Problem is doctors dont see people like me much, i am allergic to 3 antibodics and when i first got sick and it didnot quickly resolve i went to a doc in a box, he undertreated me on purpose he did not believe i would get sicker. Then i went to my pulmonary doc she gave me meds, and went my o2 sats dropped my friend that is a nurse made me go,to,er and that doc told me nothing wrong but i needed to,followed up with primary care. Called pulmonary next day they told me to, x y z and i did not i am really no better and pulmonary is gone for several days. I will probably end up in hospital. it was a small local hospital, and the doc saw me a total of less than 5 min then2 times he was in my room more worried avout cardiac. Just a,quack. The healthcare system just sucks anymore.

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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2014-10-27 8:26 PM
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I have never gotton one, I dont get sick very offten and have'nt had the flu in years.. But now I'm sure I just jinxed myself LOL     
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Reg. Apr 2006
Posted 2014-10-28 7:17 AM
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I only got one when I was pregnant. It was only for the baby. My kids are young enough they get enough vaccines, I usually opt out of the flu one for them as well. They are healthy and rarely sick. We did all get the H1N1 flu last year though. It was awful. My son that was 1 at the time didn't seem to get it. It lasted about 2-3 weeks, but all did kick it eventually.

Still not a fan of the flu shot even after having that. 
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Reg. Nov 2007
Posted 2014-10-28 7:18 AM
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Got mine about a month ago.   
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Reg. Feb 2008
Posted 2014-10-28 7:24 AM
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I will not get one. 
I almost never get sick.  I work in the school system, so my body comes into contact with LOTS of germs.  I like to let my immune system do it's job naturally, not suppress it.
No need to introduce foreign antibodies into my system when they are already introduced through daily work. 
I also play in the dirt, eat without washing my hands (around my horses) etc.  My immune system does a fabulous job.  
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rodeomom13
Reg. Apr 2008
Posted 2014-10-28 8:51 AM
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Never had one, never will. My kids - same. I haven't had the flu in years, don't remember the last time. My kids have never had it.  They have had nearly perfect attendance at school every year. The sickest they've been has been a minor 24 hour bug. My husband on the other hand, sometimes gets the shot at work. Every time he gets the shot he gets sick. They say the shot doesn't cause the flu.....BS.  He missed a week and a half of work after the last shot.
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TrailGirl
Reg. Jan 2014
Posted 2014-10-28 9:10 AM
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rodeomom13 - 2014-10-28 8:51 AM Never had one, never will. My kids - same. I haven't had the flu in years, don't remember the last time. My kids have never had it.  They have had nearly perfect attendance at school every year. The sickest they've been has been a minor 24 hour bug. My husband on the other hand, sometimes gets the shot at work. Every time he gets the shot he gets sick. They say the shot doesn't cause the flu.....BS.  He missed a week and a half of work after the last shot.

It's not BS it's science.  It cannot give you the flu as it's not a live virus that is replication competent.  It's just not.  BUT a person can get sick after the shot for several reasons.

-They were exposed to the flu virus just before or within 2 weeks after the shot and their body didn't have the chance to build proper immunity
-They were exposed to a strain of the flu virus that was not included in the formulation of the vaccine they recieved
-Their body/immune system did not respond adequately to the vaccine to build proper immunity.  I.E they may have a compromised immune system to begin with.
-They didn't get the flu but rather a respiratory virus of another type

To each their own...I don't begridge anyone the right to choose to get the vaccine or not.  I just don't like myths to be perpetuated about the vaccine itself that are just not true.  It's odd that this myth is perpetuated for the flu vaccine but not for so many other vaccines that are made in the same way using killed or modified attenuated virus.  For example...when have you ever heard folks say that giving their pet the rabis vaccine caused their pet to have rabies?  That too is a killed or midified attenuated virus. 
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rodeomom13 - 2014-10-28 8:51 AM Never had one, never will. My kids - same. I haven't had the flu in years, don't remember the last time. My kids have never had it.  They have had nearly perfect attendance at school every year. The sickest they've been has been a minor 24 hour bug. My husband on the other hand, sometimes gets the shot at work. Every time he gets the shot he gets sick. They say the shot doesn't cause the flu.....BS.  He missed a week and a half of work after the last shot.
It's not BS it's science.  It cannot give you the flu as it's not a live virus that is replication competent.  It's just not.  BUT a person can get sick after the shot for several reasons.



-They were exposed to the flu virus just before or within 2 weeks after the shot and their body didn't have the chance to build proper immunity

-They were exposed to a strain of the flu virus that was not included in the formulation of the vaccine they recieved

-Their body/immune system did not respond adequately to the vaccine to build proper immunity.  I.E they may have a compromised immune system to begin with.

-They didn't get the flu but rather a respiratory virus of another type



To each their own...I don't begridge anyone the right to choose to get the vaccine or not.  I just don't like myths to be perpetuated about the vaccine itself that are just not true.  It's odd that this myth is perpetuated for the flu vaccine but not for so many other vaccines that are made in the same way using killed or modified attenuated virus.  For example...when have you ever heard folks say that giving their pet the rabis vaccine caused their pet to have rabies?  That too is a killed or midified attenuated virus. 

 It may not give them the actual flu, but it definitely makes a lot of people sick.
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I don't get one.... I don't work in a hospital or around kids.  I'd rather just strengthen my immune system naturally.  I very rarely get sick, eat relatively healthy, and in good shape.  Spend every monent I can outdoors in the fresh air.

IF I had a compromised immune system, or worked in hospital - then I'd most likely get one.  Right now I just don't have a reason to put more chemicals in my body.

 
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TrailGirl - 2014-10-28 8:10 AM
rodeomom13 - 2014-10-28 8:51 AM Never had one, never will. My kids - same. I haven't had the flu in years, don't remember the last time. My kids have never had it.  They have had nearly perfect attendance at school every year. The sickest they've been has been a minor 24 hour bug. My husband on the other hand, sometimes gets the shot at work. Every time he gets the shot he gets sick. They say the shot doesn't cause the flu.....BS.  He missed a week and a half of work after the last shot.
It's not BS it's science.  It cannot give you the flu as it's not a live virus that is replication competent.  It's just not.  BUT a person can get sick after the shot for several reasons.



-They were exposed to the flu virus just before or within 2 weeks after the shot and their body didn't have the chance to build proper immunity

-They were exposed to a strain of the flu virus that was not included in the formulation of the vaccine they recieved

-Their body/immune system did not respond adequately to the vaccine to build proper immunity.  I.E they may have a compromised immune system to begin with.

-They didn't get the flu but rather a respiratory virus of another type



To each their own...I don't begridge anyone the right to choose to get the vaccine or not.  I just don't like myths to be perpetuated about the vaccine itself that are just not true.  It's odd that this myth is perpetuated for the flu vaccine but not for so many other vaccines that are made in the same way using killed or modified attenuated virus.  For example...when have you ever heard folks say that giving their pet the rabis vaccine caused their pet to have rabies?  That too is a killed or midified attenuated virus. 

 DING DING DING!!  What good is the shot if there are only only certain strains that are in the vaccine? You can put that crap in your body, I'm not. If I get sick, oh well. 

 
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rachellyn80 - 2014-10-27 10:23 AM

Three 4 Luck - 2014-10-27 9:10 AM
rachellyn80 - 2014-10-27 8:46 AM  This is the first time I've ever taken one.  Our babies Neonatologist recommended that we all get one this year since we have preemies in the house.  So far they have been incredibly healthy.  I could not forgive myself if they were to get sick from something that we could have easily prevented.
 That would be one of very few situations I would actually consider getting one.  It's always risk vs benefit.

We also took the Tdap vaccine before we left the hospital.  There are so many scary things that can alter a babies life when they have a compromised immune system.  We were told that if they contracted RSV in the first year of life they were almost guaranteed to have asthma.  I was able to keep them on breastmilk for four months to do the most I could for them.  

I hate all the vaccines, but I'm also very aware of the diseases that are crossing our borders daily.

We are in your same boat. My first son was born at 36 weeks and spent two weeks in the NICU for a heart condition (now fixed with no lasting effects). My husband, both sets of grandparents, and I all got the flu shot plus whatever other shots the neonatologist recommended. He ended up with RSV at 5 months old and had to be hospitalized for four days. He is now two, hasn't been diagnosed with asthma, but DEFINITELY gets a more serious respiratory response to any sort of cold that he gets.

Now we have another little one in the house (2 months), he wasn't premature but is of course still super susceptible to illness. We will all (including toddler) get our flu shots to hopefully cut down any risk that our newest little guy might be exposed to.

How are your little ones?
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 DING DING DING!!  What good is the shot if there are only only certain strains that are in the vaccine? You can put that crap in your body, I'm not. If I get sick, oh well. 



 
 What good is it??  Well its good for the strains they decide are most likely to be the primary causative agents that season and that they know can formulate a good match for in a vaccine.   Sometimes the forcasts are off...they just make the best decision they can from the data.  You can read about it here if you like:  http://www.cdc.gov/flu/professionals/vaccination/virusqa.htm  

We all put "crap" in our bodiues on a daily basis...by choice or just in the course of what we choose to eat/drink/smoke etc.  At least in this case I do so knowing exactly what is in the vaccine....not so much that hot pocket I just ate for lunch.  I didn't bother to read the box.

Here is a good blog post to debunk some myths.  I sincerely hope NONE of you or your family members get sick.  Wether you are in the YES to vaccine group or the No way in Heck group.  It's a personal choice.  I'm just trying to offer some science based facts to counter the anecdotal evidence.

http://www.redwineandapplesauce.com/2013/10/28/setting-the-record-straight-dubunking-all-the-flu-vaccine-myths/


 
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TrailGirl - 2014-10-28 12:20 PM

 DING DING DING!!  What good is the shot if there are only only certain strains that are in the vaccine? You can put that crap in your body, I'm not. If I get sick, oh well. 



 

 What good is it??  Well its good for the strains they decide are most likely to be the primary causative agents that season and that they know can formulate a good match for in a vaccine.   Sometimes the forcasts are off...they just make the best decision they can from the data.  You can read about it here if you like:  http://www.cdc.gov/flu/professionals/vaccination/virusqa.htm  

We all put "crap" in our bodiues on a daily basis...by choice or just in the course of what we choose to eat/drink/smoke etc.  At least in this case I do so knowing exactly what is in the vaccine....not so much that hot pocket I just ate for lunch.  I didn't bother to read the box.

Here is a good blog post to debunk some myths.  I sincerely hope NONE of you or your family members get sick.  Wether you are in the YES to vaccine group or the No way in Heck group.  It's a personal choice.  I'm just trying to offer some science based facts to counter the anecdotal evidence.

http://www.redwineandapplesauce.com/2013/10/28/setting-the-record-straight-dubunking-all-the-flu-vaccine-myths/


 
Likety like!!! I heart scientific evidence. Thanks for sharing.
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svincent - 2014-10-28 12:10 PM
rachellyn80 - 2014-10-27 10:23 AM
Three 4 Luck - 2014-10-27 9:10 AM
rachellyn80 - 2014-10-27 8:46 AM  This is the first time I've ever taken one.  Our babies Neonatologist recommended that we all get one this year since we have preemies in the house.  So far they have been incredibly healthy.  I could not forgive myself if they were to get sick from something that we could have easily prevented.
 That would be one of very few situations I would actually consider getting one.  It's always risk vs benefit.
We also took the Tdap vaccine before we left the hospital.  There are so many scary things that can alter a babies life when they have a compromised immune system.  We were told that if they contracted RSV in the first year of life they were almost guaranteed to have asthma.  I was able to keep them on breastmilk for four months to do the most I could for them.  



I hate all the vaccines, but I'm also very aware of the diseases that are crossing our borders daily.
We are in your same boat. My first son was born at 36 weeks and spent two weeks in the NICU for a heart condition (now fixed with no lasting effects). My husband, both sets of grandparents, and I all got the flu shot plus whatever other shots the neonatologist recommended. He ended up with RSV at 5 months old and had to be hospitalized for four days. He is now two, hasn't been diagnosed with asthma, but DEFINITELY gets a more serious respiratory response to any sort of cold that he gets. Now we have another little one in the house (2 months), he wasn't premature but is of course still super susceptible to illness. We will all (including toddler) get our flu shots to hopefully cut down any risk that our newest little guy might be exposed to. How are your little ones?

 They are wonderful :-) Thank you for asking.  I'm amazed at how fast they are growing.  You'd never know they were 6 weeks early.  

Prayers that all of our babies stay healthy and happy this flu season! 
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rachellyn80 - 2014-10-28 12:31 PM

svincent - 2014-10-28 12:10 PM
rachellyn80 - 2014-10-27 10:23 AM
Three 4 Luck - 2014-10-27 9:10 AM
rachellyn80 - 2014-10-27 8:46 AM  This is the first time I've ever taken one.  Our babies Neonatologist recommended that we all get one this year since we have preemies in the house.  So far they have been incredibly healthy.  I could not forgive myself if they were to get sick from something that we could have easily prevented.
 That would be one of very few situations I would actually consider getting one.  It's always risk vs benefit.
We also took the Tdap vaccine before we left the hospital.  There are so many scary things that can alter a babies life when they have a compromised immune system.  We were told that if they contracted RSV in the first year of life they were almost guaranteed to have asthma.  I was able to keep them on breastmilk for four months to do the most I could for them.  



I hate all the vaccines, but I'm also very aware of the diseases that are crossing our borders daily.
We are in your same boat. My first son was born at 36 weeks and spent two weeks in the NICU for a heart condition (now fixed with no lasting effects). My husband, both sets of grandparents, and I all got the flu shot plus whatever other shots the neonatologist recommended. He ended up with RSV at 5 months old and had to be hospitalized for four days. He is now two, hasn't been diagnosed with asthma, but DEFINITELY gets a more serious respiratory response to any sort of cold that he gets. Now we have another little one in the house (2 months), he wasn't premature but is of course still super susceptible to illness. We will all (including toddler) get our flu shots to hopefully cut down any risk that our newest little guy might be exposed to. How are your little ones?

 They are wonderful :-) Thank you for asking.  I'm amazed at how fast they are growing.  You'd never know they were 6 weeks early.  

Prayers that all of our babies stay healthy and happy this flu season! 

Amen!

There's seriously NOTHING scarier than having little ones in the hospital for any reason. We almost thought about not having another after our first pregnancy went to pot at 28 weeks. He went into heart failure and was completely hydropic. I spent 8 weeks on hospital bed rest in the L&D ICU. But we ended up with a healthy guy at the end. Second pregnancy was totally textbook. Lol.

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svincent - 2014-10-28 12:10 PM

rachellyn80 - 2014-10-27 10:23 AM

Three 4 Luck - 2014-10-27 9:10 AM
rachellyn80 - 2014-10-27 8:46 AM  This is the first time I've ever taken one.  Our babies Neonatologist recommended that we all get one this year since we have preemies in the house.  So far they have been incredibly healthy.  I could not forgive myself if they were to get sick from something that we could have easily prevented.
 That would be one of very few situations I would actually consider getting one.  It's always risk vs benefit.

We also took the Tdap vaccine before we left the hospital.  There are so many scary things that can alter a babies life when they have a compromised immune system.  We were told that if they contracted RSV in the first year of life they were almost guaranteed to have asthma.  I was able to keep them on breastmilk for four months to do the most I could for them.  

I hate all the vaccines, but I'm also very aware of the diseases that are crossing our borders daily.

We are in your same boat. My first son was born at 36 weeks and spent two weeks in the NICU for a heart condition (now fixed with no lasting effects). My husband, both sets of grandparents, and I all got the flu shot plus whatever other shots the neonatologist recommended. He ended up with RSV at 5 months old and had to be hospitalized for four days. He is now two, hasn't been diagnosed with asthma, but DEFINITELY gets a more serious respiratory response to any sort of cold that he gets.

Now we have another little one in the house (2 months), he wasn't premature but is of course still super susceptible to illness. We will all (including toddler) get our flu shots to hopefully cut down any risk that our newest little guy might be exposed to.

How are your little ones?

If they made flu shots when my kids were little bitty, the doctors didn't tell us back then. My kids are grown and never get sick, although my son has bad allergies and asthma but that runs in our family. If I had known about flu shots back then I think we would all have received them, since his asthma was sudden and severe. Having said that, no one in my family has ever had the flu, but we live in a small community and are not around alot of people except at work. I think that works in our favor. My dad has emphesma (?) and he and mom get flu shots and he gets a pneumonia shot when it's due. That shot has helped alot. But I am not getting a flu shot and I probably won't in the future. I eat healthy foods and exercise and my immune system is apparently strong. If I get sick I will stay away from my dad or anyone else until I am no longer sick.
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Never ever got one! I think they're poison and I have not had the flu in 13 years!! I think it's something your body needs to fight of to build immunity.
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TrailGirl - 2014-10-28 12:20 PM
 DING DING DING!!  What good is the shot if there are only only certain strains that are in the vaccine? You can put that crap in your body, I'm not. If I get sick, oh well. 



 
 What good is it??  Well its good for the strains they decide are most likely to be the primary causative agents that season and that they know can formulate a good match for in a vaccine.   Sometimes the forcasts are off...they just make the best decision they can from the data.  You can read about it here if you like:  http://www.cdc.gov/flu/professionals/vaccination/virusqa.htm  



We all put "crap" in our bodiues on a daily basis...by choice or just in the course of what we choose to eat/drink/smoke etc.  At least in this case I do so knowing exactly what is in the vaccine....not so much that hot pocket I just ate for lunch.  I didn't bother to read the box.



Here is a good blog post to debunk some myths.  I sincerely hope NONE of you or your family members get sick.  Wether you are in the YES to vaccine group or the No way in Heck group.  It's a personal choice.  I'm just trying to offer some science based facts to counter the anecdotal evidence.



http://www.redwineandapplesauce.com/2013/10/28/setting-the-record-straight-dubunking-all-the-flu-vaccine-myths/




 
 Thanks for adding some real data... kudos for fighting the good fight.
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I had never had mine but had to get one for work.. It was covered by my insurance so why not right?

About 5 hours after my shot I noticed I had a fever and I developed a migraine... They both lasted for three days. I'm perfectly fine now a week later. I see no difference in getting one and not getting one.. I don't really have an opinion on them... Next time I think I'll just take my chances and avoid getting a fever and migraine. Unless they're a have to at work again.   
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svincent - 2014-10-28 11:24 AM
TrailGirl - 2014-10-28 12:20 PM
 DING DING DING!!  What good is the shot if there are only only certain strains that are in the vaccine? You can put that crap in your body, I'm not. If I get sick, oh well. 



 
 What good is it??  Well its good for the strains they decide are most likely to be the primary causative agents that season and that they know can formulate a good match for in a vaccine.   Sometimes the forcasts are off...they just make the best decision they can from the data.  You can read about it here if you like:  http://www.cdc.gov/flu/professionals/vaccination/virusqa.htm  



We all put "crap" in our bodiues on a daily basis...by choice or just in the course of what we choose to eat/drink/smoke etc.  At least in this case I do so knowing exactly what is in the vaccine....not so much that hot pocket I just ate for lunch.  I didn't bother to read the box.



Here is a good blog post to debunk some myths.  I sincerely hope NONE of you or your family members get sick.  Wether you are in the YES to vaccine group or the No way in Heck group.  It's a personal choice.  I'm just trying to offer some science based facts to counter the anecdotal evidence.



http://www.redwineandapplesauce.com/2013/10/28/setting-the-record-straight-dubunking-all-the-flu-vaccine-myths/




 
Likety like!!! I heart scientific evidence. Thanks for sharing.
No one is going to convince me that the flu shot is a good idea. Like I'm going to believe anything the CDC says these days anyway. My experience with it is all the evidence I need.

There is also "scientific evidence" for global warming.
 
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Got mine yesterday. Feel great. The last time I had the flu was in 1978. I was too sick to even get to the Dr. had to have someone drive me. I DO NOT want the flu again. I have gotten one every year since. Got my pneumonia and shingles shots too. I am old but in good health and plan to stay that way. The pharmaceutical companies do the best that they can in predicting what strands of flu will be most common.

Might add that a school district that I worked in several years ago insisted that I get the series of hepatitis shots which they paid for. You might want to check into that if you work with the public.

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I have been getting the shot yearly for 25+ years. Haven't gotten the flu in all that time....might be a coincidence - but I doubt it.


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mervyn11 - 2014-10-29 12:21 PM

I have been getting the shot yearly for 25+ years. Haven't gotten the flu in all that time....might be a coincidence - but I doubt it.










I agree---
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I will be getting mine in about 30 minutes!  LOL  
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I have to get one every year as I don't have a choice being in the military. However I don't think they make a bit of difference. I have only seen negative outcomes from the flu shot. A Marine I work with has been dealing with bells palsy (facial paralysis) ever since he got vaccinated.

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I get a flu shot every year it is all because i have a low immune system and ive never gotten sick from taking it.


Sorry for any miss spellings.
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i have NEVER had one nor will i EVER get one!!! My nephew was a star football player at 16 yrs of age in high school and he came home from school one afternoon and told my sister his feet were tinglely. He was just getting over a simple cold. By the next morning she took him to the dr and he was sent on to childrens hospital. Within 24 hrs he was paralyzed from the neck down. He was diagnosed with ( i cant spell it correctly ) it is pronounced  geron beray syndrome. The specialist there said this it is brought on by GETTING FLU SHOTS and that was the first question they asked!!! It Took him over a year to learn how to walk  again and many long agonizing day of laying there helpless...NOPE I WILL NEVER GET A FLU SHOT!!!!!

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I got my first one a few weeks ago.

My husband was really nagging me to get it, but that's cause he is a pediatrician and if I get sick and he gets sick he can't work around the kids (right now he is in NICU so getting a neonate sick with flu is just a death sentence on top of their potentially critical issues)

I got mine at my school. I just happened to be walking by and the student nurse program were giving them for free for volunteer hours for the nursing students.

I am terrified of needles and thought an IM injection would hurt, but nope. Didn't even feel it. My arm was a little sore and I was fine beyond that.

I'll probably get my flu shot every year now that I know it doesn't hurt lol.
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ladyelbert - 2014-10-30 8:50 AM i have NEVER had one nor will i EVER get one!!! My nephew was a star football player at 16 yrs of age in high school and he came home from school one afternoon and told my sister his feet were tinglely. He was just getting over a simple cold. By the next morning she took him to the dr and he was sent on to childrens hospital. Within 24 hrs he was paralyzed from the neck down. He was diagnosed with ( i cant spell it correctly ) it is pronounced  geron beray syndrome. The specialist there said this it is brought on by GETTING FLU SHOTS and that was the first question they asked!!! It Took him over a year to learn how to walk  again and many long agonizing day of laying there helpless...NOPE I WILL NEVER GET A FLU SHOT!!!!!

 Guillain Barre, is how it's spelled.  Google it and you can find the statistics for the number of cases--it's a well-known, very serious but relatively rare risk that you don't see brought up very often in the ad campaigns.  I think the first swine flu vax in the 70s was taken off the market because the incidence of this was way higher with that one for some reason.
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