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Location: midwest mama | So I took one of my horses to the vet clinic today for a lameness recheck and to get him shod. My vet decided that he wanted to weigh my horse just to compare with how much he weighed the last time he was at the clinic. Every time I have had a horse on the scale at this clinic, the vet tech and another assistant have done it - one to hold the horse still on the scale, and the other to look at the weight monitor which is located at the back of the scale.
Today, for some reason, the tech decided she was going to weigh my horse all by herself. My vet had walked into the office to take a phone call. I even told her to wait for a minute and I would help her, but she went ahead and tried it anyway. She walks my horse onto the scale, then proceeded to hang on to his lead rope while she walked to the back to the scale to read his weight. Of course my horse turns to follow her (like he should) and she pulls him in a small circle toward her - on the cement. He proceeds to slip and pancakes all the way down on his side and in the process he banged his knee hard. So now he's lame. I couldn't believe it.
Of course my vet is upset and is trying to make things right - he bandaged my horse's knee and sent him home, and I have to take him back tomorrow to see how bad it is.
I am just sick inside - this is my good barrel horse. I'm just praying he doesn't have something horribly wrong now.
So who's responsible? I think the vet needs to take care of everything since it was their fault. Now if my horse was being unruly and hard to handle and slipped that's one thing, but the tech pulled him around and made him spin on the cement. She shouldn't even had been trying to weigh him solo - especially since I was telling her to wait for me.
What do you think?
Please send prayers for my guy.
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Location: In my own little world | Most definitely the responsibility of the clinic because the horse was checked in and in their care at the time of the accident. All costs incurred should be covered by the clinic. Besides if it is something quite serious that is why they carry liability insurance. |
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| Ugg, so frustrating. I agree with others that under those circumstances the clinic is responsible and should be doing everything possible to take care of your horse at their expense. I would ask for X-rays or ultrasound of the knee. Hope he is OK. |
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Location: Missouri | I would talk to the vet and not just make assumptions...
My story...a 4th year vet student and the vet were clearing a choke on my mare at our house. The student gave her Rompun in the carotid artery. She lived, thankfully, but she flipped over so hard that she had head trauma. When she came to, she had a head tilt and could only walk in small circles to the right. I was leaving out of state the next day, so I hauled her to the clinic for care. I was SHOCKED at the bill I received when I came home. I was billed for everything...including board. Newest choke treatment???
I'm so sorry about your boy! for a good outcome!!!
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Location: Canada | I'm so sorry this happened to you. Before getting too stressed out I'd see what today brings with the recheck. I would ask that they xray or ultrasound to make sure it is just swollen from the impact and not anything else.
One you know what is wrong with him you can go from there. If it's mild and will be fine on its own it's just frustrating. If it's a more serious injury I would be asking the vet about covering the cost of treatment.
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Location: Cap'n Joan Rotgut.....alberta | i would want x-rays or ultrasound at no cost ....on the front and back leg.....and check his hip and shoulder as well....i would be pissed and they would know it.....
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Location: Never in one place long | I agree, the vet should be responsible because this is definite negligence on the part of the vet check and you told her to wait. They should do everything possilbe to make it right! So sorry, these type of things seem to happen sometimes no matter how many precautions you take, next time, don't let your house out of your sight lol! |
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| It is the clinic's responsibility, no doubt about it. Best case scenario, though, is that it is not anything serious and that the vet will do whatever treatment is necessary and your horse makes a full recovery. Anything less than that would mean the good doc needs to figure on tapping into his medical malpractice insurance to pay you for the full value of your horse as a barrel horse. If he happens to be one who has chosen not to cary MMPI then he'll get to pay it out of his pocket. Prayers to you that it is a very insignificant injury and nothing dramatic becomes of the situation.
Although it is definitely the vet tech's fault she works as the vet's agent which is why it is he that is responsible. He can penalize her as he chooses and he certainly needs to. |
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| I guess your vet does things differently then any of the vets I have ever been to.
I have always had my horses lead shank in my hand, and been within reach during assessments.
I am not understanding why the vet tech had your horse and not you as this could be seen as implied consent.
I would also repeat the X-rays in a weeks time as blood in the joint may not show on the initial xray.
Also if the horse is unable to compete, you will need to decide how far you want to pursue.
Suing a vet, can cause you to be black balled therefore you may find it difficult to find a vet to assess and treat your animals.
If the vet is a good vet and cares about his clients (the horse not you), he will do everything necessary to get that horse sound and competing again.
This got me thinking how many people sign consents for injections, sedation, teeth, all the normal procedures and how many people are fully aware of the inherent risks of the procedure prior to the procedure?
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Location: The edge of no where | cheryl makofka - 2014-10-28 10:59 AM I guess your vet does things differently then any of the vets I have ever been to. I have always had my horses lead shank in my hand, and been within reach during assessments. I am not understanding why the vet tech had your horse and not you. I would also repeat the X-rays in a weeks time as blood in the joint may not show on the initial xray. Also if the horse is unable to compete, you will need to decide how far you want to pursue. Suing a vet, can cause you to be black balled therefore you may find it difficult to find a vet to assess and treat your animals. If the vet is a good vet and cares about his clients (the horse not you), he will do everything necessary to get that horse sound and competing again. That's not how the equine clinics here have worked in the last 5-6 years... the 3 I go to all have a vet tech come take your horse so that you can stand by the vet to talk what they're seeing. Kinda hard to watch when you're the one holding....
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| MS2011 - 2014-10-28 11:06 AM cheryl makofka - 2014-10-28 10:59 AM I guess your vet does things differently then any of the vets I have ever been to. I have always had my horses lead shank in my hand, and been within reach during assessments. I am not understanding why the vet tech had your horse and not you. I would also repeat the X-rays in a weeks time as blood in the joint may not show on the initial xray. Also if the horse is unable to compete, you will need to decide how far you want to pursue. Suing a vet, can cause you to be black balled therefore you may find it difficult to find a vet to assess and treat your animals. If the vet is a good vet and cares about his clients (the horse not you), he will do everything necessary to get that horse sound and competing again. That's not how the equine clinics here have worked in the last 5-6 years... the 3 I go to all have a vet tech come take your horse so that you can stand by the vet to talk what they're seeing. Kinda hard to watch when you're the one holding....
Agreed....
Local cow vet that I go to for Coggins and Health Certificates.... Sure. I'm going to be holding my horse.
Any actual equine clinic for lameness issues or what not... No. Vet tech takes care of my horse so I can talk with the vet. |
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| MS2011 - 2014-10-28 11:06 AM
cheryl makofka - 2014-10-28 10:59 AM I guess your vet does things differently then any of the vets I have ever been to. I have always had my horses lead shank in my hand, and been within reach during assessments. I am not understanding why the vet tech had your horse and not you. I would also repeat the X-rays in a weeks time as blood in the joint may not show on the initial xray. Also if the horse is unable to compete, you will need to decide how far you want to pursue. Suing a vet, can cause you to be black balled therefore you may find it difficult to find a vet to assess and treat your animals. If the vet is a good vet and cares about his clients (the horse not you), he will do everything necessary to get that horse sound and competing again. That's not how the equine clinics here have worked in the last 5-6 years... the 3 I go to all have a vet tech come take your horse so that you can stand by the vet to talk what they're seeing. Kinda hard to watch when you're the one holding....
Thanks.
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Location: Texas | I would expect to get all that covered by the clinic. I would also want to see something done with the technician. Vet didn't do anything wrong- technician was the one who did not wait even when you told him/her to wait. |
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Location: North Dakota | cheryl makofka - 2014-10-28 10:59 AM I guess your vet does things differently then any of the vets I have ever been to. I have always had my horses lead shank in my hand, and been within reach during assessments. I am not understanding why the vet tech had your horse and not you as this could be seen as implied consent.
Both lameness vets I have worked with (both very good vets in very respectable clinics) have the vet tech handle the horse, because the tech knows what the vet expects and what the vet wants. I've never thought twice about it. Plus then I can also watch how my horse moves and if it is consistent with what I have them there for.
To the OP: I would say in this case, if the scenario happened as you stated, that it would be the vet clinic's fault. I would have a full discussion with the vet so that you are on the same terms on who is going to pay for what and to what extent, so that you are on the same page.
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| mruggles - 2014-10-28 9:28 AM
i would want x-rays or ultrasound at no cost ....on the front and back leg.....and check his hip and shoulder as well....i would be pissed and they would know it.....
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Location: Sunny So Cal | I'm so sorry to hear! Ugg! very frustrating. It is definitely the clinics the fault. They should pay for everything and do more tests to make sure nothing else is injured besides his knee. prayers for a speedy recovery and that it isn't anything bad. |
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| just4fun - 2014-10-28 6:38 AM I would talk to the vet and not just make assumptions...
My story...a 4th year vet student and the vet were clearing a choke on my mare at our house. The student gave her Rompun in the carotid artery. She lived, thankfully, but she flipped over so hard that she had head trauma. When she came to, she had a head tilt and could only walk in small circles to the right. I was leaving out of state the next day, so I hauled her to the clinic for care. I was SHOCKED at the bill I received when I came home. I was billed for everything...including board. Newest choke treatment???
I'm so sorry about your boy! for a good outcome!!!
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| MS2011 - 2014-10-28 12:06 PM cheryl makofka - 2014-10-28 10:59 AM I guess your vet does things differently then any of the vets I have ever been to. I have always had my horses lead shank in my hand, and been within reach during assessments. I am not understanding why the vet tech had your horse and not you. I would also repeat the X-rays in a weeks time as blood in the joint may not show on the initial xray. Also if the horse is unable to compete, you will need to decide how far you want to pursue. Suing a vet, can cause you to be black balled therefore you may find it difficult to find a vet to assess and treat your animals. If the vet is a good vet and cares about his clients (the horse not you), he will do everything necessary to get that horse sound and competing again. That's not how the equine clinics here have worked in the last 5-6 years... the 3 I go to all have a vet tech come take your horse so that you can stand by the vet to talk what they're seeing. Kinda hard to watch when you're the one holding....
Agreed with the vets and techs taking control of your horse...that's how it's done around here as well....they almost seem to require it....I assume liability issues...not really sure. |
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| loveyatx - 2014-10-28 1:27 PM Of course the vet is responsible, but you're going to have to hire a lawyer to get them to accept responsibility and good luck with that. The lawyer is going to have to find another health care provider to testify against them that the way they did it was wrong, and they just won't testify against each other. Been there done that, only the injury mine had lead to him having to be put down at a very prestigious vet practice. And of course,..... they were sorry.
Not necessarily going to have to hire an attorney. I've known two vets to take on responsibility with a huge apology to go along with it...no attorneys or threat of in either case. One used their malpractice insurance...the other chose to pay out of his pocket the value of the horse, whether he even let his insurance know about it...who knows. There is such a thing as some people still own up to their responsibilities without it having to get so ugly...thank goodness! |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Same here as soon as you are stoping to unload your horses a Vet tech is waiting to help unload and to take your horse, I dont mind it at all gives me freedom to watch what is going on and to beable to talk to my vet while hes doing some checking. And when its time to load up the Vet Techs are helping with that.
To me the Vet tech is there and knows what the Vet is wanting and I dont mine the Vet Tech doing all the work during a lameness check..
And I would think its the clinic's place to pay for what happen to your horse since it was the Vet tech that was handling your horse. |
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Location: The edge of no where | cheryl makofka - 2014-10-28 11:11 AM MS2011 - 2014-10-28 11:06 AM cheryl makofka - 2014-10-28 10:59 AM I guess your vet does things differently then any of the vets I have ever been to. I have always had my horses lead shank in my hand, and been within reach during assessments. I am not understanding why the vet tech had your horse and not you. I would also repeat the X-rays in a weeks time as blood in the joint may not show on the initial xray. Also if the horse is unable to compete, you will need to decide how far you want to pursue. Suing a vet, can cause you to be black balled therefore you may find it difficult to find a vet to assess and treat your animals. If the vet is a good vet and cares about his clients (the horse not you), he will do everything necessary to get that horse sound and competing again. That's not how the equine clinics here have worked in the last 5-6 years... the 3 I go to all have a vet tech come take your horse so that you can stand by the vet to talk what they're seeing. Kinda hard to watch when you're the one holding.... Thanks. The vets I deal with review everything with me while my horse is waking from the sedation
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| MS2011 - 2014-10-28 1:34 PM
cheryl makofka - 2014-10-28 11:11 AM MS2011 - 2014-10-28 11:06 AM cheryl makofka - 2014-10-28 10:59 AM I guess your vet does things differently then any of the vets I have ever been to. I have always had my horses lead shank in my hand, and been within reach during assessments. I am not understanding why the vet tech had your horse and not you. I would also repeat the X-rays in a weeks time as blood in the joint may not show on the initial xray. Also if the horse is unable to compete, you will need to decide how far you want to pursue. Suing a vet, can cause you to be black balled therefore you may find it difficult to find a vet to assess and treat your animals. If the vet is a good vet and cares about his clients (the horse not you), he will do everything necessary to get that horse sound and competing again. That's not how the equine clinics here have worked in the last 5-6 years... the 3 I go to all have a vet tech come take your horse so that you can stand by the vet to talk what they're seeing. Kinda hard to watch when you're the one holding.... Thanks. The vets I deal with review everything with me while my horse is waking from the sedation We will discuss everything while the horse is moving or walk around and he'll point out what he's looking at. Much much prefer it to having to hold/jog my own horse. The good equine sports med clinics are always busy... much more time effienct to check the horse and talk to the owner at the same time.
Interesting,
I always sedate for xray, ultrasound, teeth.
If I need to block my vets will let the horse sit for 5-15 min prior assessing prior. I also have this time to ask the vet questions. I guess I am lucky the vets I go to still make the time.
So I ask when does your vet speak about informed consent for any assessment, and procedure about the pros/cons and risks. And when are all the options given to you on course of treatment? |
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Location: Cap'n Joan Rotgut.....alberta | im with cheryl on this (must be location..lol) i hold my own horse..and i have never sedated for x-rays, ultrasound, freeze branding or even injections..................
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Location: Sperry, OK | mruggles - 2014-10-28 1:49 PM im with cheryl on this (must be location..lol) i hold my own horse..and i have never sedated for x-rays, ultrasound, freeze branding or even injections..................
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Vet's here have the technicians take the horse from the owner.. as even though that horse belongs to you, if you get hurt by your own horse at the clinic, the clinic is responsible for your injuries. They try to alleviate the issue by not having you in control of your horse (this goes for small animal vets as well.. they restrain your dogs/cats so the owner doesn't get bit, etc.). |
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| ACEINTHEHOLE - 2014-10-28 1:56 PM mruggles - 2014-10-28 1:49 PM im with cheryl on this (must be location..lol) i hold my own horse..and i have never sedated for x-rays, ultrasound, freeze branding or even injections..................
m Vet's here have the technicians take the horse from the owner.. as even though that horse belongs to you, if you get hurt by your own horse at the clinic, the clinic is responsible for your injuries. They try to alleviate the issue by not having you in control of your horse (this goes for small animal vets as well.. they restrain your dogs/cats so the owner doesn't get bit, etc.).
Ditto, I am up on the platform with vet while tech works horse in round pen and beside vet while he flexes so I can watch horse trot off with tech. I have been gong to same vet for years so we have a great relationship and I will hold the horse when I need to but I want to be able to see my horse move. |
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Location: Canada | Is there an update on how the horse is doing today? |
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Location: Red Raiderland | mruggles - 2014-10-28 1:49 PM im with cheryl on this (must be location..lol) i hold my own horse..and i have never sedated for x-rays, ultrasound, freeze branding or even injections..................
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Yowza! It must be a location(Canada, ay?) thing because I have never had any vet not sedate before injecting. I have an old broodie that FIRES off every time in the stocks even when sedated but I couldn't imagine them trying to inject her when not sedated she becomes the the devil incarnate! We do our own freeze branding and just twitch them for that and x-rays no sedation needed either. |
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Location: sunny california | Kaycee - 2014-10-28 5:30 PM mruggles - 2014-10-28 1:49 PM im with cheryl on this (must be location..lol) i hold my own horse..and i have never sedated for x-rays, ultrasound, freeze branding or even injections..................
m Yowza! It must be a location(Canada, ay?) thing because I have never had any vet not sedate before injecting. I have an old broodie that FIRES off every time in the stocks even when sedated but I couldn't imagine them trying to inject her when not sedated she becomes the the devil incarnate! We do our own freeze branding and just twitch them for that and x-rays no sedation needed either.
a little off topic but funny
I got a gelding that while under sedation will stand so still while the vet is in the joint but when the tech tries to clean his sheath will try to kick her head off
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Location: Canada | kwanatha - 2014-10-28 7:35 PM
a little off topic but funny
I got a gelding that while under sedation will stand so still while the vet is in the joint but when the tech tries to clean his sheath will try to kick her head off
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Location: midwest mama | RunNitroRun - 2014-10-28 7:14 PM
Is there an update on how the horse is doing today?
Here's an update on my horse that got hurt at the vet clinic yesterday:
I took him back today and when we unwrapped his knee there was no swelling or tenderness. My vet did a full lameness exam on him, including having him move straight and in large and small circles both ways and he is moving very sound. His urine, however, has been a darker color which can indicate muscle trauma. I will definitely keep an eye on that.
My vet gave me a full apology and told me that he has now changed his policy so that no vet tech will ever handle a horse on the weight scale or ANY slippery area (cement, etc.) without someone else (vet, vet assistant, owner) helping to handle and/or steady the horse. He also took care of the expenses of the clean up, wrap, exam of the knee. He is going to do a recheck on my horse in one week and at that time if anything is suspicious he will take care of it.
Its seems that so far my vet is doing what he can to make it right, however, I want to be assured that there are no other problems. Also, if something comes up I want to know that he will take care of everything. Next week when my horse goes back for a recheck I will make this clear to him so there are no gray areas.
I am hoping that my horse is just fine and we don't have to go any further. Believe me, if I have to I will. This horse means the world to me and it will break my heart if he does end up having a problem. This situation is a huge eye opener for me and I WILL NOT allow a tech to handle my horse without my supervision. Period.
Thanks to everyone for your concern for my horse. Continued prayers for him will be greatly appreciated.
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| loveyatx - 2014-10-28 12:27 PM
Of course the vet is responsible, but you're going to have to hire a lawyer to get them to accept responsibility and good luck with that. The lawyer is going to have to find another health care provider to testify against them that the way they did it was wrong, and they just won't testify against each other. Been there done that, only the injury mine had lead to him having to be put down at a very prestigious vet practice. And of course,..... they were sorry.
Not true at all in our case. The vet in our case was dehorning a show heifer. He has a hydraulic chute and squeezed her just enough that she died. He was EXTREMELY upset and apologetic, so much so I found myself consoling him and my teenage son. Within a week we were paid for the heifer and to this day if I have a large bill if he works it up, I get a discount. Of course I request one of the other vets for big stuff, but the point is we never had to even think about getting a lawyer and were paid in a timely manner. |
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Location: Cap'n Joan Rotgut.....alberta | ACEINTHEHOLE - 2014-10-29 12:56 PM mruggles - 2014-10-28 1:49 PM im with cheryl on this (must be location..lol) i hold my own horse..and i have never sedated for x-rays, ultrasound, freeze branding or even injections..................
m Vet's here have the technicians take the horse from the owner.. as even though that horse belongs to you, if you get hurt by your own horse at the clinic, the clinic is responsible for your injuries. They try to alleviate the issue by not having you in control of your horse (this goes for small animal vets as well.. they restrain your dogs/cats so the owner doesn't get bit, etc.).
i hold my own dogs as well...lol ...and bo(my min pin) turns in to a raving lunatic at the vet....
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Location: Cap'n Joan Rotgut.....alberta | Kaycee - 2014-10-29 6:30 PM mruggles - 2014-10-28 1:49 PM im with cheryl on this (must be location..lol) i hold my own horse..and i have never sedated for x-rays, ultrasound, freeze branding or even injections..................
m Yowza! It must be a location(Canada, ay?) thing because I have never had any vet not sedate before injecting. I have an old broodie that FIRES off every time in the stocks even when sedated but I couldn't imagine them trying to inject her when not sedated she becomes the the devil incarnate! We do our own freeze branding and just twitch them for that and x-rays no sedation needed either.
never put them in the stocks to inject..lol...i freeze brand at home and i dont even twitch....
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| Kaycee - 2014-10-28 7:30 PM
mruggles - 2014-10-28 1:49 PM im with cheryl on this (must be location..lol) i hold my own horse..and i have never sedated for x-rays, ultrasound, freeze branding or even injections..................
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Yowza! It must be a location(Canada, ay?) thing because I have never had any vet not sedate before injecting. I have an old broodie that FIRES off every time in the stocks even when sedated but I couldn't imagine them trying to inject her when not sedated she becomes the the devil incarnate! We do our own freeze branding and just twitch them for that and x-rays no sedation needed either.
Same here! I could not IMAGINE trying to inject one without sedation....that seems like a wreck waiting to happen. My vet sedates for x-rays as well. Time is valuable for both of us, and I'd much rather get x-rays over and done with quickly instead of having to re-take them multiple times due to an antsy horse.
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| RunNitroRun - 2014-10-28 7:48 PM
kwanatha - 2014-10-28 7:35 PM
a little off topic but funny
I got a gelding that while under sedation will stand so still while the vet is in the joint but when the tech tries to clean his sheath will try to kick her head off
Tell her to warm up her hands next time sorry couldn't resist!
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Location: Cap'n Joan Rotgut.....alberta | k.maddocks24 - 2014-10-30 7:59 AM Kaycee - 2014-10-28 7:30 PM mruggles - 2014-10-28 1:49 PM im with cheryl on this (must be location..lol) i hold my own horse..and i have never sedated for x-rays, ultrasound, freeze branding or even injections..................
m Yowza! It must be a location(Canada, ay?) thing because I have never had any vet not sedate before injecting. I have an old broodie that FIRES off every time in the stocks even when sedated but I couldn't imagine them trying to inject her when not sedated she becomes the the devil incarnate! We do our own freeze branding and just twitch them for that and x-rays no sedation needed either. Same here! I could not IMAGINE trying to inject one without sedation....that seems like a wreck waiting to happen. My vet sedates for x-rays as well. Time is valuable for both of us, and I'd much rather get x-rays over and done with quickly instead of having to re-take them multiple times due to an antsy horse. OP - glad your vet is stepping up and taking responsibility, and prayers for your horse!
really guys i have never had a problem...and they stand stock still for x-rays and the injections hes so good at them the horses dont even twitch.....and i have had multiple horses to this vet.....
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Location: Cap'n Joan Rotgut.....alberta | OldSchoolCowgirl - 2014-10-29 11:17 PM RunNitroRun - 2014-10-28 7:14 PM Is there an update on how the horse is doing today? Here's an update on my horse that got hurt at the vet clinic yesterday: I took him back today and when we unwrapped his knee there was no swelling or tenderness. My vet did a full lameness exam on him, including having him move straight and in large and small circles both ways and he is moving very sound. His urine, however, has been a darker color which can indicate muscle trauma. I will definitely keep an eye on that. My vet gave me a full apology and told me that he has now changed his policy so that no vet tech will ever handle a horse on the weight scale or ANY slippery area (cement, etc. ) without someone else (vet, vet assistant, owner ) helping to handle and/or steady the horse. He also took care of the expenses of the clean up, wrap, exam of the knee. He is going to do a recheck on my horse in one week and at that time if anything is suspicious he will take care of it. Its seems that so far my vet is doing what he can to make it right, however, I want to be assured that there are no other problems. Also, if something comes up I want to know that he will take care of everything. Next week when my horse goes back for a recheck I will make this clear to him so there are no gray areas. I am hoping that my horse is just fine and we don't have to go any further. Believe me, if I have to I will. This horse means the world to me and it will break my heart if he does end up having a problem. This situation is a huge eye opener for me and I WILL NOT allow a tech to handle my horse without my supervision. Period. Thanks to everyone for your concern for my horse. Continued prayers for him will be greatly appreciated.
glad to hear your vet is trying............i would still have liked x-rays..better safe than sorry imo
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You get what you give
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Location: Texas | Alrighty so… vet techs are trained to handle your horse. I wouldn't NOT allow a tech to handle your horse ever again, and I wouldn't insist on holding my own horse if the tech wants it because they are the vets partner. I worked as a tech this summer and it's usually, USUALLY, safer to let the tech handle it. With certain owners, especially ones who were rude to me, the vet had them hold the horse because he didn't like them treating me that way.
As far as sedation goes- I would try to avoid sedation for radiographs and ultrasounds because usually a lameness exam is involved, so if the horse is sedated and you radiographed a joint and now want to re-evaluate the horse, you have to wait for it to wake up.
For injections, it goes both ways. I have seen several vets sedate for injections, especially the carpus or stifle. I have seen others just put a twitch on in the stocks to inject as well. Usually, I don't mind if they do not sedate them if the horse is stoic and doesn't move. However, I have one who is nasty about getting injected so I request she be sedated and twitched because I don't want a needle getting broken off in her hock. BAD.
I think moral of this story is- the technician messed up, the vet took care of it, everything seems to be okay. Let's not get crazy and take the technician away from the vet now every time you go to the vet and make everyone's job more difficult. Vets and clients should work together, which is what this vet is doing- trying to make it right. |
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Horse Hurt At Vet Clinic - Who Is Responsible?