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| First of all, I have a 3:30 appt with the vet today, but I want to get people's opinions as well. My mare got her leg caught through her hay net yesterday. It's hanging from the wall in her stall but the bottom of the net is about head height when he has her head relaxed. It's not super low. I don't know how she got it stuck, anyways it's her right front. From all the hay still left on the ground beneath it, it seems she was stuck like that for the majority of the day. I found her around 5:30pm yesterday with it all wrapped around right below her knee on her cannon bone. It was pulling up and forward. She had been pawing with that foot and biting at the stall wall. Poor thing. I'm impressed she stood there stuck all day. I mean I guess she didn't have a choice, but still. When I found her she was very calmly just standing there waiting to be saved. about 2" from the base of the knee down to her cannon bone was swollen. I cold hosed and bute'd. This morning her entire cannon bone is swollen like sever stocking up. I've only really seen her in the dark since it happened, I don't see a limp but I may be wrong if it's slight. She's definitely hurting there. Just picks up her leg when I touch it. I called the vet this morning. they are worried about a suspensory injury and wanted to see her immediately.
I'm really hoping it isn't, and that she will heal up quickly. We have a few weeks off from the series we are doing, but I was hoping she was gonna fill my permit this coming year so I'm really worried! Here's a picture of the pretty girl just cuz :)
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Location: White Mountains of AZ | Praying that it is not a Suspensory Ligament issue!!! Those are hard to deal with :( Hopefully nothing real serious!!!  |
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| I would just wait and see what the vet saids and I would quit using hay bags. It is better for horses to eat off the ground anyway. I built mangers that angle across one corner and sit on the ground for hay. When away at shows I just put the hay on the ground in a corner. Hope your mare is OK. |
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| Thank you for the good thoughts. I just started using it a couple weeks ago because she gets her hay everywhere and wastes a lot. I don't have enough room in the stall for something to put on the ground. Oh well it's back on the ground now. I so don't care about that right now, I'm just worried about her leg. Definitely learned my lesson. Took the net out of my other horses stall too last night. |
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| I think they waste it either way. When I hang cloth hay bags while tied to the trailer it seems more ends up on the ground then they eat. It is frustrating to see so much waste but it seemed about the same either way so the only time I use hay bgs is for the trailer. I have not tried the slow nibble hay bag, they may reduce waste, but then again I want mine eating off the ground. |
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Location: Cap'n Joan Rotgut.....alberta | my 5 yr old had a freak out in the trailer onthe way home this past spring...and some how she got her leg over the rope (i usually dont tie but she was acting goofy, so i did..lesson learnt) needless to say when i got her home and unloaded(i had a meltdown of my own) her leg was the size of a fence post.......i cold hosed and used some epf-5....and buted her.....i switched to dex and her leg was back to normal in 3 days......she did loose the hair on the back of her leg...and i had her bots boots on her, probably would have been a lot worse if i hadn't....
one of the reasons why i dont use hay nets is because im paranoid about horses gettin caught up in them......and my next though is why do you keep your horse in a stall all day....
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| It's more of a paddock. Basically my set up is 2 acres that my 2 horses share. I have a really nice "carport" that I've converted into a horse shelter. It is lined with plywood. It's 12ft wide by 21ft long and I put a panel in the middle as a divider between them. Then I built runs on both ends with gates on them. So, when they're locked up, they basically have 12x10.5 inside and 12x12 outside. They are typically NOT locked up, only when the weather is really bad and I know they will go stand outside in the rain and be idiots and get covered in mud. Yesterday it was stormy, cold, and raining hard, so they were locked up. |
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Location: Central Texas | I am hoping it is not an SL injury but if it turns out to be, ask the vet about PRP treatment. Had it done on one of mine. Helped with his healing alot. |
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| Can you explain what the PRP treatment is please? Thanks! |
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| Pratelet Rich Plasma- where they take your horses own blood and put it through a process and then inject back at the site of injury. It is suppose to be a little like stem cell therapy. How my vet explained it is it attracts the right stem cells to the injury to aid in healing. I have a gelding that had a 40% SL tear and was given less than 19% chance of healing. I did PRP and he is back 100% for 4 years now.
Edited by rodeomom3 2014-10-30 11:45 AM
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The Advice Guru
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| Crush injury of the suspensory, min 6 weeks off is my guess.
Stem cells, PRP and IRAP I would discuss these options. There is generic stem cells called acell it is 200/bottle I have used it on soft tissue injuries with great success |
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Location: Central Texas | rodeomom3 - 2014-10-30 11:44 AM
Pratelet Rich Plasma- where they take your horses own blood and put it through a process and then inject back at the site of injury. It is suppose to be a little like stem cell therapy. How my vet explained it is it attracts the right stem cells to the injury to aid in healing. I have a gelding that had a 40% SL tear and was given less than 19% chance of healing. I did PRP and he is back 100% for 4 years now.
That is kind of how my vet explained it as well. Google PRP and you will get some good explanations for it's use/process. I opted for 3 injection treatments 2 weeks apart. Just a suggestion from my vet, I don't believe that process is written in stone.
Rodeomom3, I am interested to learn how much time off you gave your horse. |
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Location: Central Texas | PRP
Platelet Rich Plasma Therapy is used to treat a variety of soft tissue tendon and ligament injuries. After taking a sample of the patient’s blood, a high speed centrifuge is used to separate the blood plasma rich in platelets from the red blood cells. This PRP with its associated growth factors is then injected into the soft tissue lesions creating a “super clot” that helps to create a biological scaffold upon the structure being treated. Sometimes used in conjunction with stem cell therapy, PRP is a fast, stall side treatment that uses the horse’s own cells and molecules to stimulate more rapid and stronger healing in a variety of structures.
Found this brief explanantion for you! |
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| Thank you, everyone!!! I am hoping the best and will let you know after our appointment!! |
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| I had a mare injure her leg same way-hung up in hay net all night. Her leg from knee down swelled quite a bit. I put a mud/clay poultice on it, pouring hot water in it every four hours for 48 hours. She had no residual damage to the leg. Investigate PRP treatments thoroughly. I know of two cases that ended up disastrously. |
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| Any update |
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| Hi all! I want to thank you all for your support. Luckily, she didn't seriously injure herself. Just soft tissue swelling and edema. No lameness. My instructions are to wrap with vet wrap over doubled over pillow pads tightly to help compress the leg and assist in swelling going down. I am not to ride her until swelling is completely gone. First day back on I trot her for 5-10 min then put her away and watch her leg for 24 hours. If no swelling or lameness presents, then we have green light. If swelling presents after the first ride then we go back to the vet. He said there was too much swelling to do an ultrasound at this point and he didn't feel it necessary. LUCKILY my next race is in 3 weeks, so I'm glad we have some recovery time off!
Thank you again and Happy Halloween!!  |
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| HannahRodeoCowgirl - 2014-10-31 11:05 AM
Hi all! I want to thank you all for your support. Luckily, she didn't seriously injure herself. Just soft tissue swelling and edema. No lameness. My instructions are to wrap with vet wrap over doubled over pillow pads tightly to help compress the leg and assist in swelling going down. I am not to ride her until swelling is completely gone. First day back on I trot her for 5-10 min then put her away and watch her leg for 24 hours. If no swelling or lameness presents, then we have green light. If swelling presents after the first ride then we go back to the vet. He said there was too much swelling to do an ultrasound at this point and he didn't feel it necessary. LUCKILY my next race is in 3 weeks, so I'm glad we have some recovery time off!
Thank you again and Happy Halloween!!
I hate to be the Debbie downer, but if the horse was mine, I would ultrasound prior to riding, as my experience (3 freak bow accidents) none of my horses were lame, one looked like a bow for less then 12 hours I was able to get all swelling out, one was a crush injury, the other looked normal to people who didn't know the horse and she needed the tendon split as there was a blood clot in the tendon that refused to break down.
I am one who has had too many things occur, I xray and ultrasound everything thing if I have suspicions. |
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| I'll definitely watch her and keep that in mind. Her swelling was about 1/2 what it was yesterday when I unwrapped her this morning. Thanks! |
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Location: Moving soon..... | If you are going to use a hay net, hang it high. I personally do not use them and if it gets on the ground, it gets on the ground. |
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Location: North Dakota | I'd Back On Track her:) |
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| I don't have any intention of using hay nets again! At shows and rodeo's we will just use one of those big buckets and at home its going on the ground. Oh well, it's so not worth a hurt horse!
I don't have BOT boots, nor do I have the money right now to get a pair :( They are on my wish list though! |
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Location: At the race track with Ah Dee Ohs | We have hay nets hung for all our stalled horses. They are tied in front of the stalls OUTSIDE their stall gate. They can't get in trouble that way. |
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Location: MN | I use the Cinch Chix net the holes are small, there is no way to get a leg hung... |
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Location: North MS | I'm going to second the small hole hay nets. I bought several from national roper supply and the holes are 2" so a hoof can't get through them. I suppose a nail might snag it if the horse is shod, but all mine are barefoot. I also hung an eye bolt really high in the stall to attach my bag to when I have to put them up. Otherwise they are loose unless at a show or injured. Glad yours is doing better |
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