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Location: NC | I have a mare that as she ages she seems to get more and more cinchy. I used the same saddle on her for around 4 years and she had no problems for several years then she started acting a little cinchy so as long as I tightened a little at a time and walked her she was fine. I sold her for a couple years and got her back last year. It seems like she has gotten worse. I have tried tons of saddles and some seem worse then others. and some days she wont flinch at all and the next she seems to tense up and the saddle pops up, and its the same saddle I used a few days before and she was fine with. Also if I get the saddle tightened up by walking her around as I cinch it will sometimes still pop up and she will look sorta tense. Then if I get on and ride a little and get off the saddle is fitting perfectly flat on her back and she looks relaxed...... I ran my thumb nail all down her back, ribs and girth area and she doesn't flinch at all.
I am just at a loss. I wondered if there was a super soft cushiony pad I should try or something???
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Location: London Ontario | I would check for ulcers, saddle fit, make sure there are not burrs or anything in the cinch or saddle pads and make sure your are tenting you saddle pad(pull your saddle pad towards your horn in the gullet space), annnd then make sure your stretch her front legs after tightening to make sure any skin wrinkles get out. Worse comes to worse maybe try a different cinch!!! Hope this helps:) |
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Location: Central Texas | I've had these symptons on my old mare when dealing with ulcers or hocks.
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Location: NC | I wouldnt have thought ulcers because she is a pretty easy keeper, doesn't seem stressed, she isn't even being used right now besides an occasional ride around the field or trail and wasn't flinchy when I ran my thumb nail around the pressure point for ulcers, but I guess its still possible.
I do tent, I do check for burs and such and have used several different pads and girths. I am going to try my fleece girth again and see if I see a difference.
Sore hocks can cause this? She isn't really being used much so wouldn't have thought this but she is 17yrs old and never had injections...
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| My horse was getting like this. Try moving your saddle back behind the shoulders? It seemed to help mine alot. |
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Location: Cap'n Joan Rotgut.....alberta | id say ulcers as well....
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | I would find the best Chiro in your area and have them go over her. What type of cinch do you use?  |
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Location: NC | Southtxponygirl - 2014-10-31 10:12 AM I would find the best Chiro in your area and have them go over her. What type of cinch do you use?
I have used mohair roper, Toklat wool fleese roper, and waffle neoprene standard.... |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | HorsesNHarleys - 2014-10-31 10:18 AM Southtxponygirl - 2014-10-31 10:12 AM I would find the best Chiro in your area and have them go over her. What type of cinch do you use?
Oh sorry I see that you posted all the types in a post above mine, lol..Well I wont think that these cinches would cause her to get sore, I would have a Chiro go over her to see if shes out some where, have you ever used one? I think they are great to help out with a problem, I have my horses Chiro coming out next week to go over a few of my horses. |
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Location: NC | Southtxponygirl - 2014-10-31 10:25 AM HorsesNHarleys - 2014-10-31 10:18 AM Southtxponygirl - 2014-10-31 10:12 AM I would find the best Chiro in your area and have them go over her. What type of cinch do you use?
I have used themk in the past on other horses that looked sore but never her. I guess I just never felt like she was sore enough to need one because she doesn't flinch when you run you thumb nail over her body and pressure points. I guess she just might be tougher then my others and hides it better. |
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| I'll probably get blasted for this but I think some are just THAT way! I've got one now and I had one in the past. I just know/knew to take it VERY slowly cinching up. Both have been checked by vets AND chiros - nothing wrong. |
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Location: Eastern OH but my heart is in WV | Our horse who was never cinchy before, started showing signs about 3 weeks ago. This with a combination of noticing lose stool recently and him always being a cribber we are now waiting for the ulcer medication to arrive. Hope it does the trick! |
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| Aren't the majority of older mares cinchy? |
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| HorseMommyFiveO - 2014-10-31 11:51 AM Aren't the majority of older mares cinchy?
One of mine was 4 and one 7 - but I don't know about the majority. |
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| If this is a "new" thing, the first thing I would check for is ulcers. |
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Location: NC | prairiegirl - 2014-10-31 1:13 PM If this is a "new" thing, the first thing I would check for is ulcers.
no its been going on for years but does seem to be getting worse. but worse on somedays then others. |
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Location: Central Texas | Sore hocks can cause this? She isn't really being used much so wouldn't have thought this but she is 17yrs old and never had injections...
When my mare was getting sore in her hocks, she would do this because she knew riding/working was going to cause her discomfort. It was just her way of telling me....I don't want to be saddled or worked. I did all the saddle fit things, even purchased a new saddle, tried everything I could think of or that was suggested. Finally determined she was hock sore. There can be so many causes for why she reacts, just thought I'd throw my experience out there. I hope you find out what is bothering her. It is frustrating for sure.
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | I've got one that would give himself hiccups when you went to cinch him. Or he did when I bought him--I've got him out of it.
Btw, those waffle neoprene ones pull hair something awful. |
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| Griz - 2014-10-31 11:24 AM I'll probably get blasted for this but I think some are just THAT way! I've got one now and I had one in the past. I just know/knew to take it VERY slowly cinching up. Both have been checked by vets AND chiros - nothing wrong.
I agree, I have an older mare that I run, I just won a barrel race on her this past weekend and she won for the previous owner too. I can't cinch her up fast or she tenses up so I walk her out and cinch a little at a time. |
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| My mare gets cinchy when her ovaries are sore. When she is on regumate I have no problems when saddling. But when she's not on regumate she will reach around and bite when being cinched. She'd been in it for several months and I had to pull her off of it a few weeks ago. Almost immediately she started biting again while being cinched. As soon as I can I'll get her back in regumate and I know she'll quit. |
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Location: Northwest | HorsesNHarleys - 2014-10-31 4:58 AM
I have a mare that as she ages she seems to get more and more cinchy. I used the same saddle on her for around 4 years and she had no problems for several years then she started acting a little cinchy so as long as I tightened a little at a time and walked her she was fine. I sold her for a couple years and got her back last year. It seems like she has gotten worse. I have tried tons of saddles and some seem worse then others. and some days she wont flinch at all and the next she seems to tense up and the saddle pops up, and its the same saddle I used a few days before and she was fine with. Also if I get the saddle tightened up by walking her around as I cinch it will sometimes still pop up and she will look sorta tense. Then if I get on and ride a little and get off the saddle is fitting perfectly flat on her back and she looks relaxed...... I ran my thumb nail all down her back, ribs and girth area and she doesn't flinch at all.
I am just at a loss. I wondered if there was a super soft cushiony pad I should try or something???
I have read that being cinchy is a main sign of hind-gut ulcers, but that it does not correlate as much with gastric ulcers. Yet, as others have said, it could be saddle fit or just plain crankiness/bad attitude. |
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| My first thought is ulcers but make sure tack fits fine. One other thing make sure there is no sore from flies. It always seems like my mares get a little cinchy as they mature. I have a lot of horses both mares and geldings and I have rarely seen it in geldings. It might have hormones mixed in. Dont all females!? 
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Location: somewhere in the south | I have an older gelding and he slowly started getting cinchy..............I did all the things I was told, slower on cinching and walking. But it kept getting worse and he finally started to pass out, just fall out, involuntarily and hang on the lead rope!! I had a friend come and massage him at Lexington, VA show in August and she found multiple knots in his girth area. He didn't like her messing with them either, tried to bite her a couple times, which he has never offered to do!! After that he has shown no signs of stress in his face while cinching and rides sooooo much better! It could be something as simple as that! So glad I had Leslie Ramsdell do a massage..................he was and is worth every penny!!!
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Location: NC | turn3nhome - 2014-11-01 10:25 AM I have an older gelding and he slowly started getting cinchy..............I did all the things I was told, slower on cinching and walking. But it kept getting worse and he finally started to pass out, just fall out, involuntarily and hang on the lead rope!! I had a friend come and massage him at Lexington, VA show in August and she found multiple knots in his girth area. He didn't like her messing with them either, tried to bite her a couple times, which he has never offered to do!! After that he has shown no signs of stress in his face while cinching and rides sooooo much better! It could be something as simple as that! So glad I had Leslie Ramsdell do a massage..................he was and is worth every penny!!!
I did press around pretty hard in her girth area and she didn't flinch but might be something deeper. Thanks for the suggestion. |
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Location: somewhere in the south | Mine evidently were pretty deep and cinching just made it the worst! He's such a good boy that I just couldn't understand why he would fall out so investigate it all and do what needs to be done to get your "good" horse back!! |
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Cinchy horse?? saddle fit or something else.