Dreamin of 3cans - 2014-10-31 7:37 AM I have a big 16.2h Little Corona gelding that does the same thing.  It's like he doesn't get to really moving until on the way home so he's going to take advantage of the opportunity to really stretch out.  Durning my slow work I'll make him stop two or three times after leaving the third barrel just to get him paying attention.  If he's not paying attention I'll back him up to the third barrel.  We've been doing a lot of backing lol.  We don't back two or three steps.  It's normally 20 to 90 feet when he doesn't listen to a stop request.  I live on a dirt road and will let him run full out and really stretch for a mile or more about once a month.  This has really helped.  But he is a smarty pants and has one arena where he knows he can get away with it.  Dang kids. 

astreakinchic - 2014-10-31 7:47 AM Be lighter with your hands and rougher with your feet. Get split reins or a very long rein until you feel comfortable in split reins. At a walk ask him to stop by just holding pressure with your reins then correct him to back with your feet when he does not. You may need spurs if the horse is dead sided. Progress through this with the trot and lope. Each time asking lighter and lighter with hands. Ride with your finger tips and absolutely no jerking with your hands. Remember your hands ask then your feet correct when he does not do what you ask. Warning this well make your horse very light and very broke and some people have a very hard time ridding a very broke horse. If you needed spurs at the walk each time you haft to ask him to back with your feet try to get lighter and lighter. Always think about your hands. Do not be holding pressure in his mouth when you do not need to be holding. Trust and teach them to stand still when they are not working...pitch the reins away. When you go to make a run they will be lighter. Don't go jerking it will hurt all the work you've done.

barrelracr131 - 2014-10-31 7:58 AM What bit does he run in?



Some tend to stop better with a combo or hack, but will run through just a bit.



Also, if this was an only "sometimes" problem for her, check hocks and stifles... sometimes if they are in pain, stopping hard hurts them and they become fearful of the stop.



You can also practice circling at the end of your run instead of running flat out, or training him to run out and then circle to slow down. I run at a lot of closed gate arenas, and so I circle as I'm at the arena fence. At an alley setup we run out and circle to stop in the holding pen or as we make it out of the chute.  

astreakinchic - 2014-10-31 8:01 AM At the walk pull him up to stop. He will most likely try to walk on out or pull on you a little and when he does this and you feel the resistance do not pull, jerk, or tug on the reins just hold the same pressure on the reins with which you asked him to stop (so don't let go from the first ask and don't do what everyone's first reaction to do is and that is to start yanking DONT!). Now we are holding pressure and he's resisting so you correct him with your feet by kicking him. He will try to go forward but your holding pressure and preventing him from going forward so he must back up eventually. You may haft to stay at the walk for a good hour NO JOKE with some horses. And you may haft to get very rough with your feet. Don't expect a big pretty Reiner back up the first time. As long as you get a step or two be happy and keeping walking and stopping then backing. Once they have the hang of it you can ask for more steps and with lighter pressure. This may sound crazy but I promise you if you work him on this for just two nights you will see a big difference in how light he will be even in a run. Hope this was a little clearer.

LRQHS - 2014-10-31 8:05 AM That's another problem. I have no idea what bit he runs in. I have it, but I don't know what it is. It does have a nose band on it lol. I think a lot of the problem is that my sister didn't do the practice and slow work like she should have and that if I do these things with him, he will pick up what I want quickly. Also, I need to teach him a slower pace, so we will be walking a lot at first. My goal is just to get to a point where we can trot a good pattern and stop lol. I, also, have no desire to break any records. I just want to ride and get us both back in shape.  

Three 4 Luck - 2014-10-31 8:12 AM  I had one that would hit another gear at the gate and break land-speed records coming out of the alley.  Pulling on his head would make him go faster--I had to pick up lightly on the reins, sit down, and let him coast down.   

hoofs_in_motion - 2014-10-31 8:18 AM can you sit and ask him to coast into a circle before coming out of the arena? I had a mare that I had to do that with, she was hard to stop after making her run, so I had to push her into a large circle to get her to slow down and eventually walk out of the arena.  

hoofs_in_motion - 2014-10-31 8:18 AM can you sit and ask him to coast into a circle before coming out of the arena? I had a mare that I had to do that with, she was hard to stop after making her run, so I had to push her into a large circle to get her to slow down and eventually walk out of the arena.  

barrelracr131 - 2014-10-31 8:22 AM This is what I do





Post a picture of the bit



That really won't help but I just want to see it 

LRQHS - 2014-10-31 8:23 AM Not sure. I'll have to slow work him a lot. I know they have closed the arena gate for my sister before, so he had to make a circle.....Looks pretty dangerous to me. I'd just like a slower, more controlled ride. 

LRQHS - 2014-10-31 7:54 AM Ok. So, to correct him to back with my feet. How does he know that I want him to back? Normally, I give him small tugs with the reins, repeatively until he backs and he does that well. So, where would I place my feet to cue him that it's back up time?



Thanks for the info. I totally understand what you're saying and have something to work on. I appreciate it. 

lindseylou2290 - 2014-10-31 8:45 AM When you ask for the stop, he should give to the bit, drop his head a little and round his back - and obviously stop.  Now, to get him moving his feet in reverse, roll your pelvis so that you are exagerating sitting on your pockets, bump (gently tug) each side of the bit, and squeeze or bump at the same time with your legs.   Rolling your pelvis encourages the roll in his back to stay, the gentle tugs/ bumps on your reins will signal and encourage the reverse movement, and the squeeze and bumping with your legs (spurs) says GET YOUR BOOTY MOVING NOW!!!   So, it all works together.  As astreainchic said ... don't get aggressive with the reins, get aggressive with your feet/legs if he chooses to ignore you :) 



Another thought, when you ask for the stop, do you just passively ask with your reins or are you rolling your pelvis, sitting on your pockets, and asking with your hands all at the same time?  Things to think about! 

LRQHS - 2014-10-31 8:10 AM  That's right, ladies! Fear me not should we meet up at the Cajun Riding Club. You will, at least, beat me lol.

barrelracr131 - 2014-10-31 8:47 AM  Very good description



Ask with your seat and legs moreso than your hands (really for all things)



Also have you ridden this horse yet???? You need to let us know how he's riding now.

LRQHS - 2014-10-31 8:21 AM I'm mostly scared that I will run over someone. 

Three 4 Luck - 2014-10-31 9:37 AM  Make sure your power steering is working and it will be fine. 

Southtxponygirl - 2014-10-31 10:52 AM Have not read all the posts on here, but use your voice, when I am stopping my horses I'm telling them to with Whoa also, so everytime you stop use your voice if it's just walking troting and you are getting ready to stop pick up the reins and tell them to WHoa, I use my voice all the time, I like talking to them..  

LRQHS - 2014-10-31 11:09 AM  First of all, I love your avatar! and, secondly, when he's running like a bat out of hell, whoa is not effective. In fact, no words, even the 4 letter ones, are effective. Try again lol.

LRQHS - 2014-10-31 11:09 AM


 First of all, I love your avatar! and, secondly, when he's running like a bat out of hell, whoa is not effective. In fact, no words, even the 4 letter ones, are effective. Try again lol.

redmansmyman11 - 2014-10-31 1:57 PM First off... I'M SOOOO EXCITED FOR YOU!! This is awesome opportunity and you rock for making it happen. Second I would suggest watching a ton of videos of reiners. Reining runs, reiners training their horses, reiners doing reining things on youtube, reiners riding reining colts, etc. That body position from your horse and you is what you want when you stop no matter how fast you're going. Reiners obviously sit down and slide and we don't but it's still a good practice to be soft with your hands soft with your body and really sit down and cue with your body to stop. Say whoa, he may not listen now but if you do it long enough I guarantee that word will eventually mean something to him. When your'e walking around on him practice excellent body position and light hands, when you're walking ask him to stop and use as little hands as possible and feel what he feels like and what he's comfortable with. Then try walking him toward a fence or something solid and keep him pointed at it until he basically stops himself, see how his body feels when he does that, does his back feel like it's up underneath you? Or does his head come up and his back feel like it's hollowed out beneath you? If he feels nice and round that's awesome, if he feels all hollow then you have something to work on. Wiggle your hands and see if he gives to bit pressure and lowers his head, if not then that is something you can work on that will help you with brakes too. Horse gives to pressure, head goes down(ish) back comes up, horse's body is round and more collected = better stop and softer horse. Work on walking little perfect circles, it's a lot harder than it looks! This will help get some flexibility through his body and help him bring his hind leg up under himself and really supple that hip. Sounds counter intuitive but it will actually help give you tools for a better stop. GOOD LUCK AND HAVE FUN! Sorry for writing you a book my inner reiner came out a little too much lol

LRQHS - 2014-10-31 1:14 PM


It's ok lol! Let your inner reiner freak fly!! I'm absorbing all information like a little sponge. Thank you for taking the time to write for me :) 

Herbie - 2014-10-31 2:56 PM I'm thinking twisted wire tied down or bonnet combined with a mule bit......that ought to do the trick.  Now....before anyone jumps down my throat thinking i'm being serious, I'M NOT!  However I did have a horse with this same problem that came to me with that exact get up.  I ran him with a long shanked Ed Wright and got along just fine.  Had another that had some stopping issues and ran him in a ported Petska. 



LRQHS....go get the horse and then come see me......we'll get ya fixed up!  I have literally thousands of bits.  I would definitely encourage you to get his teeth done first and foremost before you get to riding him very much.  THEN come see me!