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| How many indoor arenas across the country are big enough to run a standard pattern? The American finals is on a tiny pattern. I would like to see more qualifiers make it back to the semis when they draw as many entries as the Texas one did. I did hear that one horse qualified 3 people- wonder how that work if all 3 made it to the finals?
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Location: NE Texas | I don't think multiple people should be able to qualify on the same horse. I have no problem with one person qualifying multiple (2) horses but I do have a problem with one horse qualifying multiple people.
I'm not excited about the semi finals being held at Northside. I with they would have a standard set too or at least something as large as Glen Rose. Northside is just a dang trap to run in IMO. |
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Location: Oklahoma | Maybe they could do a top % at each qualifier. Like if they did top 10%, then more would have gotten back at Glen Rose, but I see how it takes away from the prestige of being in the "top ten".
I also kinda don't like the multiple qualifiers/one horse. I don't mean to sound rude, but I think it kinda takes away from those people who just have that one great horse and might miss out on qualifying by someone who had access to an amazing horse for that one run (& I'm not trying to discount anyone's riding abilities). Lindsey McLeod (Kellies Chick comes to mind) certainly proved what a hand she is by running on a different than she was exempted into the American on & having the fastest time of the weekend. But what if someone doesn't have a horse that really "deserves" to be there? I kinda feel bad for who would have been next in line because of this multiple rider rule. JMO and I just hope I'm not flamed! |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | Since they are putting all of this on and adding all the money, I wouldn't step on anyone's toes and if I was the producer I would tell people if they didn't like what I was doing that they needed to put on their own version of the American..LOL |
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Location: Washington | Nevertooold - 2014-11-03 3:19 PM Since they are putting all of this on and adding all the money, I wouldn't step on anyone's toes and if I was the producer I would tell people if they didn't like what I was doing that they needed to put on their own version of the American..LOL
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Location: Wasagaming, Manitoba, Canada | fatchance - 2014-11-03 5:29 PM Nevertooold - 2014-11-03 3:19 PM Since they are putting all of this on and adding all the money, I wouldn't step on anyone's toes and if I was the producer I would tell people if they didn't like what I was doing that they needed to put on their own version of the American..LOL Can we all hear an AMEN!!!
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Location: PNW | heidiinaz - 2014-11-03 5:36 PM
I don't know the rules but different people can run the same horse?
Yes. A horse from Idaho (I think) qualified a gal at Pasco, a gal at Montana, and one more.
I think that is also a rule that is a little bit "questionable"....
I don't really see this thread as stepping on toes, I see it as constructive criticism (as long as folks remain respectful) - which is how kinks get ironed out. And since this is only the second year, I'd think there'd still be a few kinks to be ironed. If I was RFDTV and throwing as much money as they are at an event - I'd want to hear what folks had to say, in a reasonable, respectful fashion. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | fatchance - 2014-11-03 5:29 PM Nevertooold - 2014-11-03 3:19 PM Since they are putting all of this on and adding all the money, I wouldn't step on anyone's toes and if I was the producer I would tell people if they didn't like what I was doing that they needed to put on their own version of the American..LOL Can we all hear an AMEN!!!
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Location: Oklahoma | svincent - 2014-11-03 5:44 PM heidiinaz - 2014-11-03 5:36 PM I don't know the rules but different people can run the same horse? Yes. A horse from Idaho (I think ) qualified a gal at Pasco, a gal at Montana, and one more. I think that is also a rule that is a little bit "questionable".... I don't really see this thread as stepping on toes, I see it as constructive criticism (as long as folks remain respectful ) - which is how kinks get ironed out. And since this is only the second year, I'd think there'd still be a few kinks to be ironed. If I was RFDTV and throwing as much money as they are at an event - I'd want to hear what folks had to say, in a reasonable, respectful fashion.
I'm not trying to disrespect RFDTV by anymeans with typing out my opinion. They put on one heck of a rodeo that I hope continues to be put on for many, many more years. My hat is off to BBR for being the sanctioning body. Please don't assume that I'm trying to say "I can do this better" by voicing my opinion. |
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| Itsme - 2014-11-03 3:50 PM
Heaven forbid someone have an opinion...yall just stay barefoot and pregnant while doing dishes...
That is really funny. I agree don't think this post is bashing the American it's a discussion. And everyone can say how they feel. This is America right? |
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Location: PNW | heidiinaz - 2014-11-03 5:51 PM
So what will happen that horse will run three times at the semi finals?
There's also no rule that says you have to run the horse you qualified on. My guess would be probably not. Three balls-to-the-wall runs in a few hours would be a HUGE task. Not to mention, there's the chance the riders could draw up back to back. |
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Location: PNW | Itsme - 2014-11-03 5:50 PM
Heaven forbid someone have an opinion...yall just stay barefoot and pregnant while doing dishes...
Your last comment is unnecessary and offensive. It is comments like that that make people discount what you say, if for no other reason than them being tired of your BS. |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | svincent - 2014-11-03 5:54 PM heidiinaz - 2014-11-03 5:51 PM So what will happen that horse will run three times at the semi finals? There's also no rule that says you have to run the horse you qualified on. My guess would be probably not. Three balls-to-the-wall runs in a few hours would be a HUGE task. Not to mention, there's the chance the riders could draw up back to back.
They can qualify at different races on the same horse but according to the rule below....they can NOT all ride the same horse at the Semi-Finals or the American.........The next rule (R9) states that the qualification is for the RIDER.....those who qualified on the same horse will have to ride different mounts at the Semis
R8: A horse may not be ridden by two contestants, or twice by the same contestant, at one Qualification Race, the Semi-Finals or the American, regardless of the relationship of the contestants.
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | NJJ - 2014-11-03 6:16 PM svincent - 2014-11-03 5:54 PM heidiinaz - 2014-11-03 5:51 PM So what will happen that horse will run three times at the semi finals? There's also no rule that says you have to run the horse you qualified on. My guess would be probably not. Three balls-to-the-wall runs in a few hours would be a HUGE task. Not to mention, there's the chance the riders could draw up back to back.
R8: A horse may not be ridden by two contestants, or twice by the same contestant, at one Qualification Race, the Semi-Finals or the American, regardless of the relationship of the contestants.
I guess it's a good thing to know the rules before wanting to change them..LOL Thanks for posting them.
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| heidiinaz - 2014-11-03 5:51 PM
So what will happen that horse will run three times at the semi finals?
Read the rules You are NOT qualifying the horse you are qualifying the rider. However once a horse is qualified it can't be qualified again. Example say three riders qualify on the same horse only one can ride that horse at the semi finals and at the finals. |
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| fatchance - 2014-11-03 5:29 PM Nevertooold - 2014-11-03 3:19 PM Since they are putting all of this on and adding all the money, I wouldn't step on anyone's toes and if I was the producer I would tell people if they didn't like what I was doing that they needed to put on their own version of the American..LOL Can we all hear an AMEN!!!
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Location: Oklahoma | sodapop - 2014-11-03 6:39 PM Did they have very many qualifiers in any events east of the Mississippi River? Just curious. I don't care how they do things. It's their event and everyone knows what is at stake when they enter.
Take my geography with a grain of salt..... But there was one in Ohio and one still to come in Florida. Idk if I'm missing any more, though! |
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| Nevertooold - 2014-11-03 6:26 PM
NJJ - 2014-11-03 6:16 PM svincent - 2014-11-03 5:54 PM heidiinaz - 2014-11-03 5:51 PM So what will happen that horse will run three times at the semi finals? There's also no rule that says you have to run the horse you qualified on. My guess would be probably not. Three balls-to-the-wall runs in a few hours would be a HUGE task. Not to mention, there's the chance the riders could draw up back to back.
R8: A horse may not be ridden by two contestants, or twice by the same contestant, at one Qualification Race, the Semi-Finals or the American, regardless of the relationship of the contestants.
I dont think anyone that was confused was for or against changing the rule, they wanted more info. I on the other hand knew the rule from prior discussions on here and still dont like multiple people qualifying on one horse.
Its going to turn into a popularity contest and a battle of money to buy your way onto a top horse instead of running your own. IMO
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Location: In a happy place | fatchance - 2014-11-03 5:29 PM Nevertooold - 2014-11-03 3:19 PM Since they are putting all of this on and adding all the money, I wouldn't step on anyone's toes and if I was the producer I would tell people if they didn't like what I was doing that they needed to put on their own version of the American..LOL Can we all hear an AMEN!!!
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Location: Running barrels or watching nascar | Itsme - 2014-11-03 2:28 PM
I would like to see them all ran on a standard pattern for reference and only allow a horse to qualify 1 person.
What would you gals do differently?
Only qualify one horse, only one attempt allowed, and pick one race. If you don't make it the first time - too bad. |
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Location: Running barrels or watching nascar | Itsme - 2014-11-03 2:28 PM
I would like to see them all ran on a standard pattern for reference and only allow a horse to qualify 1 person.
What would you gals do differently?
and drop the entry fees. JMO, $500 is outrageous. |
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Location: PNW | NJJ - 2014-11-03 6:16 PM
svincent - 2014-11-03 5:54 PM heidiinaz - 2014-11-03 5:51 PM So what will happen that horse will run three times at the semi finals? There's also no rule that says you have to run the horse you qualified on. My guess would be probably not. Three balls-to-the-wall runs in a few hours would be a HUGE task. Not to mention, there's the chance the riders could draw up back to back. R8: A horse may not be ridden by two contestants, or twice by the same contestant, at one Qualification Race, the Semi-Finals or the American, regardless of the relationship of the contestants.
Thanks for clarifying! My mistake :)
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Location: Texas | I would like to see different people in the exemption bracket every year. Other than that I think it's great |
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| 3rdtimesacharm - 2014-11-03 6:08 PM
I would like to see different people in the exemption bracket every year. Other than that I think it's great
That's pretty tough to do since the exemption has to be a previous World Champion. That leaves us Charmayne, Kristie Peterson, Kelly Kaminski and Janae Ward. You can't count Brittany and Sherry since they are still rodeoing hard.I realize there ate World Champions prior to the 80's but I was just covering the last 30 years. |
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| barrelracer1983 - 2014-11-03 7:05 PM Itsme - 2014-11-03 2:28 PM I would like to see them all ran on a standard pattern for reference and only allow a horse to qualify 1 person. What would you gals do differently? and drop the entry fees. JMO, $500 is outrageous.
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Location: Texas | SKM - 2014-11-03 7:18 PM 3rdtimesacharm - 2014-11-03 6:08 PM I would like to see different people in the exemption bracket every year. Other than that I think it's great That's pretty tough to do since the exemption has to be a previous World Champion. That leaves us Charmayne, Kristie Peterson, Kelly Kaminski and Janae Ward. You can't count Brittany and Sherry since they are still rodeoing hard.I realize there ate World Champions prior to the 80's but I was just covering the last 30 years.
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Location: PNW | rodeomom3 - 2014-11-03 7:21 PM
barrelracer1983 - 2014-11-03 7:05 PM Itsme - 2014-11-03 2:28 PM I would like to see them all ran on a standard pattern for reference and only allow a horse to qualify 1 person. What would you gals do differently? and drop the entry fees. JMO, $500 is outrageous.
Totally agree. The high entry fee is what keeps it an elite group that tries to qualify. I wouldn't want to wait for 1500 good runs just to see 100 great runs, to see 10 AMAZING runs at each qualifier. Lol |
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Location: Here | kmcsunshine - 2014-11-03 6:29 PM fatchance - 2014-11-03 5:29 PM Nevertooold - 2014-11-03 3:19 PM Since they are putting all of this on and adding all the money, I wouldn't step on anyone's toes and if I was the producer I would tell people if they didn't like what I was doing that they needed to put on their own version of the American..LOL Can we all hear an AMEN!!!
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Location: North Texas | SG. - 2014-11-03 7:47 PM
kmcsunshine - 2014-11-03 6:29 PM fatchance - 2014-11-03 5:29 PM Nevertooold - 2014-11-03 3:19 PM Since they are putting all of this on and adding all the money, I wouldn't step on anyone's toes and if I was the producer I would tell people if they didn't like what I was doing that they needed to put on their own version of the American..LOL Can we all hear an AMEN!!!
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | rodeomom3 - 2014-11-03 7:21 PM barrelracer1983 - 2014-11-03 7:05 PM Itsme - 2014-11-03 2:28 PM I would like to see them all ran on a standard pattern for reference and only allow a horse to qualify 1 person. What would you gals do differently? and drop the entry fees. JMO, $500 is outrageous.
I agree. There are a lot of slot races with less money up for grabs with at least if not more than $500 entry. |
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| Itsme - 2014-11-03 5:50 PM Heaven forbid someone have an opinion...yall just stay barefoot and pregnant while doing dishes...
Are you entering? Do you plan to? Do you have a horse that can hang? If not, why does it matter to you? |
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Location: Broxton, Ga | rodeomom3 - 2014-11-02 5:32 PM How many indoor arenas across the country are big enough to run a standard pattern? The American finals is on a tiny pattern. I would like to see more qualifiers make it back to the semis when they draw as many entries as the Texas one did. I did hear that one horse qualified 3 people- wonder how that work if all 3 made it to the finals?
I don't think they will ride the same horse in the semi's..........don't think that is allowed........."think" is the key word........those I know that qualified on the same horse.....same family.......have the caliber horses to run the semi's that didn't make their qualifying run........... |
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Location: Wyoming | kmcsunshine - 2014-11-04 5:17 AM
Itsme - 2014-11-03 5:50 PM Heaven forbid someone have an opinion...yall just stay barefoot and pregnant while doing dishes...
Itsme I want to know too. You have nothing but negative things to say about one of the best things to happen to rodeo. |
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Location: The edge of no where | perfectturns - 2014-11-04 9:24 AM kmcsunshine - 2014-11-04 5:17 AM Itsme - 2014-11-03 5:50 PM Heaven forbid someone have an opinion...yall just stay barefoot and pregnant while doing dishes... Itsme I want to know too. You have nothing but negative things to say about one of the best things to happen to rodeo.
Do you even run barrels? I've asked that a few times, but mysteriously never get an answer!
IDK....perhaps you just haven't figured out how to type in English yet?
I wouldn't change a thing, it's freakin awesome!
Why the hangup on standard patterns? Do you know how few arenas run on a standard pattern? The American won't be on a standard pattern and the semis are on a tiny one. Dumbest idea yet.
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Location: Texas | Nevertooold - 2014-11-03 5:19 PM Since they are putting all of this on and adding all the money, I wouldn't step on anyone's toes and if I was the producer I would tell people if they didn't like what I was doing that they needed to put on their own version of the American..LOL
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Location: Desert Land | foundation horse - 2014-11-03 5:49 PM SG. - 2014-11-03 7:47 PM kmcsunshine - 2014-11-03 6:29 PM fatchance - 2014-11-03 5:29 PM Nevertooold - 2014-11-03 3:19 PM Since they are putting all of this on and adding all the money, I wouldn't step on anyone's toes and if I was the producer I would tell people if they didn't like what I was doing that they needed to put on their own version of the American..LOL Can we all hear an AMEN!!! Amen
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | MS2011 - 2014-11-04 9:29 AM perfectturns - 2014-11-04 9:24 AM kmcsunshine - 2014-11-04 5:17 AM Itsme - 2014-11-03 5:50 PM Heaven forbid someone have an opinion...yall just stay barefoot and pregnant while doing dishes... Itsme I want to know too. You have nothing but negative things to say about one of the best things to happen to rodeo.
IDK....perhaps you just haven't figured out how to type in English yet?
I wouldn't change a thing, it's freakin awesome!
Why the hangup on standard patterns? Do you know how few arenas run on a standard pattern? The American won't be on a standard pattern and the semis are on a tiny one. Dumbest idea yet.
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| schnitkey - 2014-11-04 1:00 PM I will throw my two cents into the ring. I wish the BBR would monitor more closely where these races are held. Alcohol should not run a show and it is a poor representation for RFDtv to have such a caliber of a race held by a group that actually puts alcohol in its rules.
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | NJJ - 2014-11-04 1:22 PM MS2011 - 2014-11-04 9:29 AM perfectturns - 2014-11-04 9:24 AM kmcsunshine - 2014-11-04 5:17 AM Itsme - 2014-11-03 5:50 PM Heaven forbid someone have an opinion...yall just stay barefoot and pregnant while doing dishes... Itsme I want to know too. You have nothing but negative things to say about one of the best things to happen to rodeo.
IDK....perhaps you just haven't figured out how to type in English yet?
I wouldn't change a thing, it's freakin awesome!
Why the hangup on standard patterns? Do you know how few arenas run on a standard pattern? The American won't be on a standard pattern and the semis are on a tiny one. Dumbest idea yet.
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Location: The edge of no where | heidiinaz - 2014-11-04 3:06 PM schnitkey - 2014-11-04 1:00 PM I will throw my two cents into the ring. I wish the BBR would monitor more closely where these races are held. Alcohol should not run a show and it is a poor representation for RFDtv to have such a caliber of a race held by a group that actually puts alcohol in its rules. What are you referring to?
I'm lost..... Were you there?
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | LRQHS - 2014-11-04 3:52 PM No alcohol = I ain't going
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | heidiinaz - 2014-11-04 3:53 PM That's what I wanted to know. I watched it and didnt see and alcohol advertised. Or is she referring to contestants drinking or people producing?
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Location: Buffalo, TX | schnitkey - 2014-11-04 3:00 PM I will throw my two cents into the ring. I wish the BBR would monitor more closely where these races are held. Alcohol should not run a show and it is a poor representation for RFDtv to have such a caliber of a race held by a group that actually puts alcohol in its rules.
OK...I think I have it figured out....this was in the rules of the Ohio American qualifier....I don't know these people, but their rules are very funny...I laughed because they were intended to be light hearted. I would say it was all written in fun and this person needs to lighten up and learn to take a joke...lol...here's a link for the rules.....http://ontheroadwithdawnandclea.com/rules-for-panty-raid-and-botb/
Rule I think she's referring to: "If you have a question or complaint you must bring $20 to the office or a 6 pack of beer for the office staff. If we determine it is a stupid question, you will owe both."
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Cindy Hamilton - 2014-11-04 4:20 PM schnitkey - 2014-11-04 3:00 PM I will throw my two cents into the ring. I wish the BBR would monitor more closely where these races are held. Alcohol should not run a show and it is a poor representation for RFDtv to have such a caliber of a race held by a group that actually puts alcohol in its rules. OK...I think I have it figured out....this was in the rules of the Ohio American qualifier....I don't know these people, but their rules are very funny...I laughed because they were intended to be light hearted. I would say it was all written in fun and this person needs to lighten up and learn to take a joke...lol...here's a link for the rules.....http://ontheroadwithdawnandclea.com/rules-for-panty-raid-and-botb/
Rule I think she's referring to: "If you have a question or complaint you must bring $20 to the office or a 6 pack of beer for the office staff. If we determine it is a stupid question, you will owe both."
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Location: Oklahoma | Cindy Hamilton - 2014-11-04 4:20 PM schnitkey - 2014-11-04 3:00 PM I will throw my two cents into the ring. I wish the BBR would monitor more closely where these races are held. Alcohol should not run a show and it is a poor representation for RFDtv to have such a caliber of a race held by a group that actually puts alcohol in its rules. OK...I think I have it figured out....this was in the rules of the Ohio American qualifier....I don't know these people, but their rules are very funny...I laughed because they were intended to be light hearted. I would say it was all written in fun and this person needs to lighten up and learn to take a joke...lol...here's a link for the rules.....http://ontheroadwithdawnandclea.com/rules-for-panty-raid-and-botb/
Rule I think she's referring to: "If you have a question or complaint you must bring $20 to the office or a 6 pack of beer for the office staff. If we determine it is a stupid question, you will owe both."
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Longneck - 2014-11-04 4:28 PM Cindy Hamilton - 2014-11-04 4:20 PM schnitkey - 2014-11-04 3:00 PM I will throw my two cents into the ring. I wish the BBR would monitor more closely where these races are held. Alcohol should not run a show and it is a poor representation for RFDtv to have such a caliber of a race held by a group that actually puts alcohol in its rules. OK...I think I have it figured out....this was in the rules of the Ohio American qualifier....I don't know these people, but their rules are very funny...I laughed because they were intended to be light hearted. I would say it was all written in fun and this person needs to lighten up and learn to take a joke...lol...here's a link for the rules.....http://ontheroadwithdawnandclea.com/rules-for-panty-raid-and-botb/
Rule I think she's referring to: "If you have a question or complaint you must bring $20 to the office or a 6 pack of beer for the office staff. If we determine it is a stupid question, you will owe both."
Sounds like they were just having some fun!
Are maybe some others did take is serious and when she went to the office a few cases of beer were stacked and then she thought the worst of the grounds people thinking they were all drunks, lol.. |
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Location: Oklahoma | Southtxponygirl - 2014-11-04 4:31 PM Longneck - 2014-11-04 4:28 PM Cindy Hamilton - 2014-11-04 4:20 PM schnitkey - 2014-11-04 3:00 PM I will throw my two cents into the ring. I wish the BBR would monitor more closely where these races are held. Alcohol should not run a show and it is a poor representation for RFDtv to have such a caliber of a race held by a group that actually puts alcohol in its rules. OK...I think I have it figured out....this was in the rules of the Ohio American qualifier....I don't know these people, but their rules are very funny...I laughed because they were intended to be light hearted. I would say it was all written in fun and this person needs to lighten up and learn to take a joke...lol...here's a link for the rules.....http://ontheroadwithdawnandclea.com/rules-for-panty-raid-and-botb/
Rule I think she's referring to: "If you have a question or complaint you must bring $20 to the office or a 6 pack of beer for the office staff. If we determine it is a stupid question, you will owe both."
Sounds like they were just having some fun!
Hey, I'd say as long as they don't act drunk I'd still attend!
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Location: Buffalo, TX | You should read all the rules...there's one that says you ride at your own risk and if something happens it isn't the producers, Bush's, Clinton's or Obama's fault...lol |
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| LRQHS - 2014-11-04 3:52 PM No alcohol = I ain't going
That's all I have to contribute here...
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| Longneck - 2014-11-04 4:33 PM Southtxponygirl - 2014-11-04 4:31 PM Longneck - 2014-11-04 4:28 PM Cindy Hamilton - 2014-11-04 4:20 PM schnitkey - 2014-11-04 3:00 PM I will throw my two cents into the ring. I wish the BBR would monitor more closely where these races are held. Alcohol should not run a show and it is a poor representation for RFDtv to have such a caliber of a race held by a group that actually puts alcohol in its rules. OK...I think I have it figured out....this was in the rules of the Ohio American qualifier....I don't know these people, but their rules are very funny...I laughed because they were intended to be light hearted. I would say it was all written in fun and this person needs to lighten up and learn to take a joke...lol...here's a link for the rules.....http://ontheroadwithdawnandclea.com/rules-for-panty-raid-and-botb/
Rule I think she's referring to: "If you have a question or complaint you must bring $20 to the office or a 6 pack of beer for the office staff. If we determine it is a stupid question, you will owe both."
Sounds like they were just having some fun!
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Location: Oklahoma | rodeomom3 - 2014-11-04 5:31 PM Longneck - 2014-11-04 4:33 PM Southtxponygirl - 2014-11-04 4:31 PM Longneck - 2014-11-04 4:28 PM Cindy Hamilton - 2014-11-04 4:20 PM schnitkey - 2014-11-04 3:00 PM I will throw my two cents into the ring. I wish the BBR would monitor more closely where these races are held. Alcohol should not run a show and it is a poor representation for RFDtv to have such a caliber of a race held by a group that actually puts alcohol in its rules. OK...I think I have it figured out....this was in the rules of the Ohio American qualifier....I don't know these people, but their rules are very funny...I laughed because they were intended to be light hearted. I would say it was all written in fun and this person needs to lighten up and learn to take a joke...lol...here's a link for the rules.....http://ontheroadwithdawnandclea.com/rules-for-panty-raid-and-botb/
Rule I think she's referring to: "If you have a question or complaint you must bring $20 to the office or a 6 pack of beer for the office staff. If we determine it is a stupid question, you will owe both."
Sounds like they were just having some fun!
Sounds like!! I'll have to take time to read the entire rules!! |
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Location: west of East Texas | I like when the alcohol companies do some sponsoring. I appreciate being able to see where my money is going... Hello, Crown Royal, want to chip in sometime????
I agree with the others on the entry fee and being able to watch a steady stream of top performers run. This thing was put together for entertaining a lot more people than die-hard rodeo fans so it needs the best of the best athletes performing. How many fans do the Dallas Cowboys have versus the Dallas City League? OK, maybe that was a bad example.... |
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| NJJ - 2014-11-04 1:22 PM
MS2011 - 2014-11-04 9:29 AM perfectturns - 2014-11-04 9:24 AM kmcsunshine - 2014-11-04 5:17 AM Itsme - 2014-11-03 5:50 PM Heaven forbid someone have an opinion...yall just stay barefoot and pregnant while doing dishes... Itsme I want to know too. You have nothing but negative things to say about one of the best things to happen to rodeo.
IDK....perhaps you just haven't figured out how to type in English yet?
I wouldn't change a thing, it's freakin awesome!
Why the hangup on standard patterns? Do you know how few arenas run on a standard pattern? The American won't be on a standard pattern and the semis are on a tiny one. Dumbest idea yet.
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | Itsme - 2014-11-04 6:45 PM NJJ - 2014-11-04 1:22 PM MS2011 - 2014-11-04 9:29 AM perfectturns - 2014-11-04 9:24 AM kmcsunshine - 2014-11-04 5:17 AM Itsme - 2014-11-03 5:50 PM Heaven forbid someone have an opinion...yall just stay barefoot and pregnant while doing dishes... Itsme I want to know too. You have nothing but negative things to say about one of the best things to happen to rodeo.
IDK....perhaps you just haven't figured out how to type in English yet?
I wouldn't change a thing, it's freakin awesome!
Why the hangup on standard patterns? Do you know how few arenas run on a standard pattern? The American won't be on a standard pattern and the semis are on a tiny one. Dumbest idea yet.
Its called work and having a life...
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Why would I answer teh questions?
I posted a couple opinions, one was strongly favored by some and the other not so much. |
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | Itsme - 2014-11-04 7:19 PM
Why would I answer teh questions?
I posted a couple opinions, one was strongly favored by some and the other not so much.
I honestly don't know the questions because I didn't read past alcohol, but my answer to this question is because we're bored, I don't have cable and I'm on my third beer..... :) |
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Location: Wyoming | Itsme - 2014-11-04 7:19 PM
Why would I answer teh questions?
I posted a couple opinions, one was strongly favored by some and the other not so much.
We are asking questions because we want to know why you feel the way you do about the american. Why are you unwilling to answer? |
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| Well ms2011 is a liar so I dont find it necessary to answer hers, ill look at the others |
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| "Are you entering? Do you plan to? Do you have a horse that can hang? If not, why does it matter to you?"
No im not entering but who knows, I might in the future and from reviewing the results having a horse that can "hang" is not a prerequisite to entering...
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| LRQHS - 2014-11-04 7:28 PM
Itsme - 2014-11-04 7:19 PM
Why would I answer teh questions?
I posted a couple opinions, one was strongly favored by some and the other not so much.
I honestly don't know the questions because I didn't read past alcohol, but my answer to this question is because we're bored, I don't have cable and I'm on my third beer..... : )
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| LRQHS - 2014-11-04 7:28 PM
Itsme - 2014-11-04 7:19 PM
Why would I answer teh questions?
I posted a couple opinions, one was strongly favored by some and the other not so much.
I honestly don't know the questions because I didn't read past alcohol, but my answer to this question is because we're bored, I don't have cable and I'm on my third beer..... : )
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | Cindy Hamilton - 2014-11-04 4:20 PM
schnitkey - 2014-11-04 3:00 PM I will throw my two cents into the ring. I wish the BBR would monitor more closely where these races are held. Alcohol should not run a show and it is a poor representation for RFDtv to have such a caliber of a race held by a group that actually puts alcohol in its rules.
OK...I think I have it figured out....this was in the rules of the Ohio American qualifier....I don't know these people, but their rules are very funny...I laughed because they were intended to be light hearted. I would say it was all written in fun and this person needs to lighten up and learn to take a joke...lol...here's a link for the rules.....http://ontheroadwithdawnandclea.com/rules-for-panty-raid-and-botb/ Rule I think she's referring to: "If you have a question or complaint you must bring $20 to the office or a 6 pack of beer for the office staff. If we determine it is a stupid question, you will owe both."
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| barrelracer1983 - 2014-11-03 7:04 PM
Itsme - 2014-11-03 2:28 PM
I would like to see them all ran on a standard pattern for reference and only allow a horse to qualify 1 person.
What would you gals do differently?
Only qualify one horse, only one attempt allowed, and pick one race. If you don't make it the first time - too bad.
Your comments, Seriously?
If you cannot afford the entry fee, don't enter. For what people are winning in the qualifiers, the fees are appropriate.
The standard pattern, no other organization, runs on a standard pattern all year, why should the American? Makes no sense.
Only allowing one horse/rider one entry, it is still a jackpot, people make their living running barrel horses, why would you want to eliminate the competition, to allow the slower horses to qualify and win money at these races. It's absurd. |
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| cheryl makofka - 2014-11-04 9:52 PM
barrelracer1983 - 2014-11-03 7:04 PM
Itsme - 2014-11-03 2:28 PM
I would like to see them all ran on a standard pattern for reference and only allow a horse to qualify 1 person.
What would you gals do differently?
Only qualify one horse, only one attempt allowed, and pick one race. If you don't make it the first time - too bad.
Your comments, Seriously?
If you cannot afford the entry fee, don't enter. For what people are winning in the qualifiers, the fees are appropriate.
The standard pattern, no other organization, runs on a standard pattern all year, why should the American? Makes no sense.
Only allowing one horse/rider one entry, it is still a jackpot, people make their living running barrel horses, why would you want to eliminate the competition, to allow the slower horses to qualify and win money at these races. It's absurd.
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| "The standard pattern, no other organization, runs on a standard pattern all year, why should the American? Makes no sense."
A-I didnt ask you guys to critique my ideas, but add some of yours or simply reply I like it 100% the way it is.
B-"No other organization runs on a standard pattern all year" Thats exactly my point, this to me would be an opportunity to help create even more excitement and buzz about this race.
Having all the races staked the same size, it could be a standard pattern or an "American pattern" staked smaller,but the excitement it created would be crazy in my opinion. Imagine seeing a lady down in Florida smoke a run that is 2 tenths faster than anyone in the earlier races then the anticipation on how she would and or could perform for the $1 million!! To ME it would bring it to yet another level, and yes I do believe The American is one of the best things to happen to barrel racing in...years,ever?
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Location: western Nebraska | I have no plans to ever enter but I love the idea of an "American" sized pattern at all the qualifiers. That would be fun to see how they all compared as they qualified. I know the ground would not be the same at all the arenas but it would still be fun. If the measurements used were the same as the one they used last year at the American I think that would be cool. |
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| doglady - 2014-11-04 11:40 PM
I have no plans to ever enter but I love the idea of an "American" sized pattern at all the qualifiers. That would be fun to see how they all compared as they qualified. I know the ground would not be the same at all the arenas but it would still be fun. If the measurements used were the same as the one they used last year at the American I think that would be cool.
Thank you!
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| You may think the alcohol part is funny, but it is not. When your producers are drunk during the show, the crew in charge of the gates are drunk during the show and a portion of your tractor drivers are out back getting drunk its not funny. It's dangerous and a lawsuit waiting to happen. |
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| schnitkey - 2014-11-05 3:41 AM You may think the alcohol part is funny, but it is not. When your producers are drunk during the show, the crew in charge of the gates are drunk during the show and a portion of your tractor drivers are out back getting drunk its not funny. It's dangerous and a lawsuit waiting to happen.
They really were drunk?? |
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| Cindy Hamilton - 2014-11-04 4:20 PM
schnitkey - 2014-11-04 3:00 PM I will throw my two cents into the ring. I wish the BBR would monitor more closely where these races are held. Alcohol should not run a show and it is a poor representation for RFDtv to have such a caliber of a race held by a group that actually puts alcohol in its rules.
OK...I think I have it figured out....this was in the rules of the Ohio American qualifier....I don't know these people, but their rules are very funny...I laughed because they were intended to be light hearted. I would say it was all written in fun and this person needs to lighten up and learn to take a joke...lol...here's a link for the rules.....http://ontheroadwithdawnandclea.com/rules-for-panty-raid-and-botb/ Rule I think she's referring to: "If you have a question or complaint you must bring $20 to the office or a 6 pack of beer for the office staff. If we determine it is a stupid question, you will owe both."
I am putting this on EVERY set of rules that I have for a roping or barrel race that I have in the future! This is AWESOME! Until you produce an event and listen to people Bi*** about every single little petty thing..... then yea you probably won't find humor in this. |
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Location: Sperry, OK | schnitkey - 2014-11-05 3:41 AM You may think the alcohol part is funny, but it is not. When your producers are drunk during the show, the crew in charge of the gates are drunk during the show and a portion of your tractor drivers are out back getting drunk its not funny. It's dangerous and a lawsuit waiting to happen.
I wouldn't care what they were.. as long as they did their job and remained professional.. who cares? I know more people than I care to count that are NEVER sober. As a matter of fact, on occassion, I ask "what is wrong with them?" and get told... "they are sober"... There are more people in the world that you or I could ever imagine that are functioning alcoholics, or at least are still able to be repectful and do their job while drinking. Some of the best jackpots/rodeos I have been to, the whole crew was drinking. Don't get me wrong, I have seen some take it too far, or not be able to handle themselves professionally under the influence too, and those aren't so fun. But as I stated above, as long as they did their job, remained professional and couteous.. WHO CARES!
p.s. I know now you will start telling stories of how they werent professional.
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | schnitkey - 2014-11-05 3:41 AM You may think the alcohol part is funny, but it is not. When your producers are drunk during the show, the crew in charge of the gates are drunk during the show and a portion of your tractor drivers are out back getting drunk its not funny. It's dangerous and a lawsuit waiting to happen.
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Location: Down South | Nevertooold - 2014-11-03 4:19 PM Since they are putting all of this on and adding all the money, I wouldn't step on anyone's toes and if I was the producer I would tell people if they didn't like what I was doing that they needed to put on their own version of the American..LOL
Yep Yep.!!!! I could put my own spin on that for the shows I produce. You wanna complain??..... then you put on a show and do all the work. I'll just show up and visit and talk with my friends and run my horse. |
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| Itsme - 2014-11-04 11:13 PM
"The standard pattern, no other organization, runs on a standard pattern all year, why should the American? Makes no sense."
A-I didnt ask you guys to critique my ideas, but add some of yours or simply reply I like it 100% the way it is.
B-"No other organization runs on a standard pattern all year" Thats exactly my point, this to me would be an opportunity to help create even more excitement and buzz about this race.
Having all the races staked the same size, it could be a standard pattern or an "American pattern" staked smaller,but the excitement it created would be crazy in my opinion. Imagine seeing a lady down in Florida smoke a run that is 2 tenths faster than anyone in the earlier races then the anticipation on how she would and or could perform for the $1 million!! To ME it would bring it to yet another level, and yes I do believe The American is one of the best things to happen to barrel racing in...years,ever?
If you want the same size pattern, to be able to compare barrel racers times across the country.
Then you will need the same dimensions of arena, and
You would need the same footing
Without these being the same, times will be affected
Hey why not rake after every person too that way everyone gets the same chance
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Location: Oklahoma | ACEINTHEHOLE - 2014-11-05 9:28 AM schnitkey - 2014-11-05 3:41 AM You may think the alcohol part is funny, but it is not. When your producers are drunk during the show, the crew in charge of the gates are drunk during the show and a portion of your tractor drivers are out back getting drunk its not funny. It's dangerous and a lawsuit waiting to happen. I wouldn't care what they were.. as long as they did their job and remained professional.. who cares? I know more people than I care to count that are NEVER sober. As a matter of fact, on occassion, I ask "what is wrong with them?" and get told... "they are sober"... There are more people in the world that you or I could ever imagine that are functioning alcoholics, or at least are still able to be repectful and do their job while drinking. Some of the best jackpots/rodeos I have been to, the whole crew was drinking. Don't get me wrong, I have seen some take it too far, or not be able to handle themselves professionally under the influence too, and those aren't so fun. But as I stated above, as long as they did their job, remained professional and couteous.. WHO CARES!
p.s. I know now you will start telling stories of how they werent professional.
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | cheryl makofka - 2014-11-05 10:06 AM Itsme - 2014-11-04 11:13 PM "The standard pattern, no other organization, runs on a standard pattern all year, why should the American? Makes no sense." A-I didnt ask you guys to critique my ideas, but add some of yours or simply reply I like it 100% the way it is. B-"No other organization runs on a standard pattern all year" Thats exactly my point, this to me would be an opportunity to help create even more excitement and buzz about this race. Having all the races staked the same size, it could be a standard pattern or an "American pattern" staked smaller,but the excitement it created would be crazy in my opinion. Imagine seeing a lady down in Florida smoke a run that is 2 tenths faster than anyone in the earlier races then the anticipation on how she would and or could perform for the $1 million!! To ME it would bring it to yet another level, and yes I do believe The American is one of the best things to happen to barrel racing in...years,ever? If you want the same size pattern, to be able to compare barrel racers times across the country. Then you will need the same dimensions of arena, and You would need the same footing Without these being the same, times will be affected Hey why not rake after every person too that way everyone gets the same chance
Do you REALLY believe that the footing at the NFR is the SAME every year to set arena records??? There is an excitement when someone breaks the WPRA record on a "standard" pattern......regardless of the arena.....By having the same size pattern, it would, at the very least, serve as a barometer for comparison of runs. I think it is a good idea. |
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| I wish some producer would start more high money straight pay barrel races. NBHA doesn't pay enough to 1D at their nationals, open, or youth world. Lets take those open horses and run for some dang money people. I know I know those 4D and 3D people add to the pot but we can make our races even the local levels pay more if all directors would take more of a business approach to this game.
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Location: Washington | astreakinchic - 2014-11-05 8:18 AM I wish some producer would start more high money straight pay barrel races. NBHA doesn't pay enough to 1D at their nationals, open, or youth world. Lets take those open horses and run for some dang money people. I know I know those 4D and 3D people add to the pot but we can make our races even the local levels pay more if all directors would take more of a business approach to this game. Also, I'd love for liquor and beer companies to get involved as sponsors. The more money in our sport the better!
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Location: Texas | ACEINTHEHOLE - 2014-11-05 9:28 AM
schnitkey - 2014-11-05 3:41 AM You may think the alcohol part is funny, but it is not. When your producers are drunk during the show, the crew in charge of the gates are drunk during the show and a portion of your tractor drivers are out back getting drunk its not funny. It's dangerous and a lawsuit waiting to happen.
I wouldn't care what they were.. as long as they did their job and remained professional.. who cares? I know more people than I care to count that are NEVER sober. As a matter of fact, on occassion, I ask "what is wrong with them?" and get told... "they are sober"... There are more people in the world that you or I could ever imagine that are functioning alcoholics, or at least are still able to be repectful and do their job while drinking. Some of the best jackpots/rodeos I have been to, the whole crew was drinking. Don't get me wrong, I have seen some take it too far, or not be able to handle themselves professionally under the influence too, and those aren't so fun. But as I stated above, as long as they did their job, remained professional and couteous.. WHO CARES!
p.s. I know now you will start telling stories of how they werent professional.
Sorry… But I think that is a TERRIBLE attitude to have. Of course we should care… It's that kind of attitude that let's someone drive away drunk and kill a family. Take it from someone who has lots of experience with "functioning" addicts. Their day will come, let's just hope that it's not at someone else's expense.
And for the record… I DO care and I prefer to be affiliated with people who have more respect for themselves and others then to get drunk when they should be sober.
Also, I think the way they did the rules was cute and was just meant to be funny.
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Location: Sperry, OK | grinandbareit - 2014-11-05 10:23 AM ACEINTHEHOLE - 2014-11-05 9:28 AM schnitkey - 2014-11-05 3:41 AM You may think the alcohol part is funny, but it is not. When your producers are drunk during the show, the crew in charge of the gates are drunk during the show and a portion of your tractor drivers are out back getting drunk its not funny. It's dangerous and a lawsuit waiting to happen. I wouldn't care what they were.. as long as they did their job and remained professional.. who cares? I know more people than I care to count that are NEVER sober. As a matter of fact, on occassion, I ask "what is wrong with them?" and get told... "they are sober"... There are more people in the world that you or I could ever imagine that are functioning alcoholics, or at least are still able to be repectful and do their job while drinking. Some of the best jackpots/rodeos I have been to, the whole crew was drinking. Don't get me wrong, I have seen some take it too far, or not be able to handle themselves professionally under the influence too, and those aren't so fun. But as I stated above, as long as they did their job, remained professional and couteous.. WHO CARES!
p.s. I know now you will start telling stories of how they werent professional.
Sorry… But I think that is a TERRIBLE attitude to have. Of course we should care… It's that kind of attitude that let's someone drive away drunk and kill a family. Take it from someone who has lots of experience with "functioning" addicts. Their day will come, let's just hope that it's not at someone else's expense. And for the record… I DO care and I prefer to be affiliated with people who have more respect for themselves and others then to get drunk when they should be sober. Also, I think the way they did the rules was cute and was just meant to be funny.
I never said anything about drinking and driving! And I personally don't care if my attidute is not in alignment with yours. I am for sure not going to bash someone that is working the gate at a race I am at for having a few beers. As long as they open the gate when I go in and out, and they aren't rude to me, don't cause me and my horse to have a wreck from their inabiltiy to function... carry on! If the tractor drivers are dragging effectively and efficiently, I really don't care what is in their cup! Honestly if this is what people are focused on when they should be focused on their run, then it was probably reflective of their focus. Just another point of people getting in other peoples business when they just need to mind their own!
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ACEINTHEHOLE - 2014-11-05 9:28 AM
schnitkey - 2014-11-05 3:41 AM You may think the alcohol part is funny, but it is not. When your producers are drunk during the show, the crew in charge of the gates are drunk during the show and a portion of your tractor drivers are out back getting drunk its not funny. It's dangerous and a lawsuit waiting to happen.
I wouldn't care what they were.. as long as they did their job and remained professional.. who cares? I know more people than I care to count that are NEVER sober. As a matter of fact, on occassion, I ask "what is wrong with them?" and get told... "they are sober"... There are more people in the world that you or I could ever imagine that are functioning alcoholics, or at least are still able to be repectful and do their job while drinking. Some of the best jackpots/rodeos I have been to, the whole crew was drinking. Don't get me wrong, I have seen some take it too far, or not be able to handle themselves professionally under the influence too, and those aren't so fun. But as I stated above, as long as they did their job, remained professional and couteous.. WHO CARES!
p.s. I know now you will start telling stories of how they werent professional.
Sorry… But I think that is a TERRIBLE attitude to have. Of course we should care… It's that kind of attitude that let's someone drive away drunk and kill a family. Take it from someone who has lots of experience with "functioning" addicts. Their day will come, let's just hope that it's not at someone else's expense.
And for the record… I DO care and I prefer to be affiliated with people who have more respect for themselves and others then to get drunk when they should be sober.
Also, I think the way they did the rules was cute and was just meant to be funny.
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| skeeter 777 - 2014-11-03 5:05 PM My biggest complaint is that comcast doesnt have RFD TV, cause I really wanted to watch it
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| NJJ - 2014-11-05 10:14 AM
cheryl makofka - 2014-11-05 10:06 AM Itsme - 2014-11-04 11:13 PM "The standard pattern, no other organization, runs on a standard pattern all year, why should the American? Makes no sense." A-I didnt ask you guys to critique my ideas, but add some of yours or simply reply I like it 100% the way it is. B-"No other organization runs on a standard pattern all year" Thats exactly my point, this to me would be an opportunity to help create even more excitement and buzz about this race. Having all the races staked the same size, it could be a standard pattern or an "American pattern" staked smaller,but the excitement it created would be crazy in my opinion. Imagine seeing a lady down in Florida smoke a run that is 2 tenths faster than anyone in the earlier races then the anticipation on how she would and or could perform for the $1 million!! To ME it would bring it to yet another level, and yes I do believe The American is one of the best things to happen to barrel racing in...years,ever? If you want the same size pattern, to be able to compare barrel racers times across the country. Then you will need the same dimensions of arena, and You would need the same footing Without these being the same, times will be affected Hey why not rake after every person too that way everyone gets the same chance
I know the footing is not the same every year, and I believe there has been a pattern change in the years it has been in Vegas too.
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Location: Texas | ACEINTHEHOLE - 2014-11-05 10:37 AM
grinandbareit - 2014-11-05 10:23 AM ACEINTHEHOLE - 2014-11-05 9:28 AM schnitkey - 2014-11-05 3:41 AM You may think the alcohol part is funny, but it is not. When your producers are drunk during the show, the crew in charge of the gates are drunk during the show and a portion of your tractor drivers are out back getting drunk its not funny. It's dangerous and a lawsuit waiting to happen. I wouldn't care what they were.. as long as they did their job and remained professional.. who cares? I know more people than I care to count that are NEVER sober. As a matter of fact, on occassion, I ask "what is wrong with them?" and get told... "they are sober"... There are more people in the world that you or I could ever imagine that are functioning alcoholics, or at least are still able to be repectful and do their job while drinking. Some of the best jackpots/rodeos I have been to, the whole crew was drinking. Don't get me wrong, I have seen some take it too far, or not be able to handle themselves professionally under the influence too, and those aren't so fun. But as I stated above, as long as they did their job, remained professional and couteous.. WHO CARES!
p.s. I know now you will start telling stories of how they werent professional.
Sorry… But I think that is a TERRIBLE attitude to have. Of course we should care… It's that kind of attitude that let's someone drive away drunk and kill a family. Take it from someone who has lots of experience with "functioning" addicts. Their day will come, let's just hope that it's not at someone else's expense. And for the record… I DO care and I prefer to be affiliated with people who have more respect for themselves and others then to get drunk when they should be sober. Also, I think the way they did the rules was cute and was just meant to be funny.
No, you didn't say anything about drinking and driving, but they have to get to those jobs and they have to leave them too. And if you think that a few beers doesn't impair your judgement, think again. If there is someone working the gate that has had a few beers and some freak accident happens that he or she needs to react to, the situation could be made much worse because their judgment was impaired. And here is a fact… a "functioning" alcoholic is still an alcoholic. Just because you can make it to work, doesn't mean you are any better of an alcoholic than the guy or lady laying on the sofa all day. I think the one on the sofa is probably the better one, because they aren't affecting the lives of those that are out and about doing their daily activities.
And while we are on the subject… If there is someone reading this that needs help to stop drinking, go get it. There are so many people out there that are willing to help you, you do not have to live like that anymore. YOU DO MATTER AND PEOPLE DO CARE. You can do it!
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | cheryl makofka - 2014-11-05 11:34 AM NJJ - 2014-11-05 10:14 AM cheryl makofka - 2014-11-05 10:06 AM Itsme - 2014-11-04 11:13 PM "The standard pattern, no other organization, runs on a standard pattern all year, why should the American? Makes no sense." A-I didnt ask you guys to critique my ideas, but add some of yours or simply reply I like it 100% the way it is. B-"No other organization runs on a standard pattern all year" Thats exactly my point, this to me would be an opportunity to help create even more excitement and buzz about this race. Having all the races staked the same size, it could be a standard pattern or an "American pattern" staked smaller,but the excitement it created would be crazy in my opinion. Imagine seeing a lady down in Florida smoke a run that is 2 tenths faster than anyone in the earlier races then the anticipation on how she would and or could perform for the $1 million!! To ME it would bring it to yet another level, and yes I do believe The American is one of the best things to happen to barrel racing in...years,ever? If you want the same size pattern, to be able to compare barrel racers times across the country. Then you will need the same dimensions of arena, and You would need the same footing Without these being the same, times will be affected Hey why not rake after every person too that way everyone gets the same chance I know the footing is not the same every year, and I believe there has been a pattern change in the years it has been in Vegas too.
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Location: Washington | Since we are off in left field now, I would love for the standard pattern to be shorten so all arena's can set one up. Yup, yup, heck why not. |
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Location: Texas | I'm with FC on this one… I think they should shorten the standard pattern so that it could be used in more venues. Or they could have a choice of standard patterns… A, B, C or D… to fit the size of the arena. That would give you some standards for all size arenas, from the small indoor to the big outdoor patterns. You just pick the size of the pattern to fit the venue and there would be recorded times for all size patterns. There are only a few venues that wouldn't fit those standards… Pendleton, and maybe some of the tiny 13 second pens.
Just a thought. Edited to say, it's raining and I'm bored, lol.
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Location: Here | grinandbareit - 2014-11-05 12:14 PM I'm with FC on this one… I think they should shorten the standard pattern so that it could be used in more venues. Or they could have a choice of standard patterns… A, B, C or D… to fit the size of the arena. That would give you some standards for all size arenas, from the small indoor to the big outdoor patterns. You just pick the size of the pattern to fit the venue and there would be recorded times for all size patterns. There are only a few venues that wouldn't fit those standards… Pendleton, and maybe some of the tiny 13 second pens. Just a thought. Edited to say, it's raining and I'm bored, lol.
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | fatchance - 2014-11-05 11:57 AM Since we are off in left field now, I would love for the standard pattern to be shorten so all arena's can set one up. Yup, yup, heck why not.
I agree with this and Grinandbearit took it even farther. This should have been done a long time ago.
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Location: Texas | Nevertooold - 2014-11-05 2:02 PM
fatchance - 2014-11-05 11:57 AM Since we are off in left field now, I would love for the standard pattern to be shorten so all arena's can set one up. Yup, yup, heck why not.
How can we get this going?
Well we should start by making it a new thread, lol… See ya there! ;)
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Some people took this for what it was, a potential positive idea for a new powerful producer and expanded on it.
I love it... Darla just ran a 15.4 on a #3 pattern....That would be some cool $hit there.
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| LRQHS - 2014-11-04 8:28 PM Itsme - 2014-11-04 7:19 PM Why would I answer teh questions? I posted a couple opinions, one was strongly favored by some and the other not so much. I honestly don't know the questions because I didn't read past alcohol, but my answer to this question is because we're bored, I don't have cable and I'm on my third beer..... : )
does captain morgan and zero coke count?
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| fatchance - 2014-11-05 12:57 PM Since we are off in left field now, I would love for the standard pattern to be shorten so all arena's can set one up. Yup, yup, heck why not.
oh no oh no there goes my place can/t do that . you know my place girl
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What I would like to see changed in The American