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Location: White Mountains of AZ | I'm just curious as to see what everybody's opinion on this is Whether it be made legalized..or stay just as medical purposes. And in what condition would one have to be in for it to be justified? Everybody is entitled to their opinion...I'm just curious! |
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Location: Kansas | I don't care what other people do....as long as it doesn't affect myself, my child or my life. They can legalize whatever they want |
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Location: Texas | IMHO I think alcohol does way more damage. No you should not drive under the influence of anything, but how many deaths do we hear about from weed?? How many from alcohol? The only thing is that is is a gateway drug.. We will never know what happens if it never gets legalized though and I think Amsterdam is doing just fine. I've been I loved the way they have it legalized, it is a very cool idea and I think it cuts down drinking.
Maybe some of this is worded wrong but I don't think it's as big of a deal as some people make it.....
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|  Tax it and regulate it! |
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Location: My happy place | I agree with Jimmy Kimmel ......... legalize it, tax it and let the post office deliver it. Could solve a few problems. |
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| Just say nope to dope, that's my thoughts.
As a law enforcement officer and certified drug expert, it's not the harmless 'natural' medicine its users would have you think. Cyanide is natural. So is dog crap.
I worked in a ca county known for permissive weed laws and policies, and way more people died in crashes from weed than alcohol.
Here's an article I'm quoted in:
http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2012/12/07/chp-marijuana-dui-a-gro...
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 Knowledge is Power
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Location: wherever my daughter's running | I work at an alcohol and drug treatment center and I will tell you that I am opposed to the legalization of marijuana. I have spent a lot of time studing this topice and talked with people from CO about this. Our governor approved for the use of medical marijuana oil in our state - it was not put out for vote. Their is a mountain higher than Pikes Peak of problems with legalized marijuana. As far as the medical marijuana, the long term effects have not been studied and it is not FDA approved. The below is from a report out of CO concerning marijuana imparied traffic accidents.
Traffic fatalities in Colorado decreased 16 percent1, from 2006 to 2011, which is
consistent with national trends. During the same six years in Colorado, traffic
fatalities involving drivers testing positive for just marijuana increased 114
percent.2
• In 2006 in Colorado, traffic fatalities involving drivers testing positive for
marijuana represented 5 percent of the total traffic fatalities. By 2011, that
percent more than doubled to 13 percent.2
• In 2006, drivers testing positive for marijuana were involved in 28 percent of
fatal vehicle crashes involving drugs. By 2011 that number had increased to 56 percent
This is the link to the report which contains a lot of information on this.
http://www.rmhidta.org/html/FINAL%20Legalization%20of%20MJ%20in%20Colorado%20The%20Impact.pdf
Mommy50 was right on target with her post too.
It is certainly no the pretty picture some would have you believe. Also, CO has not collected nearly the revenus they anticiapted by legalizing and taxing. Most are still buying off the black market. In my opinon the legalizing of marijuana in CO has been an epic failure. |
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Location: ND | i don't care if states legalize it or not......honestly, they might as well and save us all the criminal costs.... |
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Location: Midwest | dhdqhllc - 2014-11-07 10:05 AM i don't care if states legalize it or not......honestly, they might as well and save us all the criminal costs....
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Location: Kentucky | dhdqhllc - 2014-11-07 11:05 AM i don't care if states legalize it or not......honestly, they might as well and save us all the criminal costs....
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| Here in CO since it was legalized you have high school kids getting stoned at school during lunch. The homeless population has sky rocketed due to the transits that came here for the sole purpose of getting stoned legally. People on government entitlements have gone through the roof because people are only working enough to pay for their marijuana fix and munchies. How dies that not affect you if you have a job and pay taxes? I don't have a problem with it for medical reasons. But legalizing it for everyone is a HUGE mistake. |
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| cruise - 2014-11-07 9:57 AM I work at an alcohol and drug treatment center and I will tell you that I am opposed to the legalization of marijuana. I have spent a lot of time studing this topice and talked with people from CO about this. Our governor approved for the use of medical marijuana oil in our state - it was not put out for vote. Their is a mountain higher than Pikes Peak of problems with legalized marijuana. As far as the medical marijuana, the long term effects have not been studied and it is not FDA approved. The below is from a report out of CO concerning marijuana imparied traffic accidents.
Traffic fatalities in Colorado decreased 16 percent1, from 2006 to 2011, which is
consistent with national trends. During the same six years in Colorado, traffic
fatalities involving drivers testing positive for just marijuana increased 114
percent.2
• In 2006 in Colorado, traffic fatalities involving drivers testing positive for
marijuana represented 5 percent of the total traffic fatalities. By 2011, that
percent more than doubled to 13 percent.2
• In 2006, drivers testing positive for marijuana were involved in 28 percent of
fatal vehicle crashes involving drugs. By 2011 that number had increased to 56 percent
This is the link to the report which contains a lot of information on this.
http://www.rmhidta.org/html/FINAL%20Legalization%20of%20MJ%20in%20Colorado%20The%20Impact.pdf
Mommy50 was right on target with her post too.
It is certainly no the pretty picture some would have you believe. Also, CO has not collected nearly the revenus they anticiapted by legalizing and taxing. Most are still buying off the black market. In my opinon the legalizing of marijuana in CO has been an epic failure.
I could totally see people buying from the black market more - why pay that tax? - I hadn't thought about that aspect. |
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Hungarian Midget Woman
Location: Midwest | Some kids were stoned all day back when I was in HS, legal or not. Folks tried to sell to me as well (I was not interested)... this was all with pot being "illegal"
The only thing that will change if it's legalized, IMO, is that we will be spending less to fight the losing "war on drugs".
JMO...... |
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | I don't care one way or another.....but, in my job, you would be surprised at the number of trauma's we have that test positive for marjuana alone. Sure, I see it mixed with other substances frequently, but it always makes me wonder when I see accidents and pot is all that they test positive for. |
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| It is legal next door in Washington. I personally am against it. My husband works with a guy he calls "the poster boy for the negative effects from doing too much marijuana when he was young." The guy literally sleeps on the job and that part they teach you in school about killing brain cells - yeah - this guy apparently has none left - my husband says he cannot read a simple tape measure - and that is when he actually remembers to bring it to the construction site. SMH.  |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | Medicinal Marijuana is a JOKE.......all you end up with is "storefront" Doctors who prescribe it to anyone who walks in the door. I don't think legalizing it has solved any real problems or provided any incentive for legalization. |
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Knowledge is Power
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Location: wherever my daughter's running | NJJ - 2014-11-07 1:16 PM Medicinal Marijuana is a JOKE.......all you end up with is "storefront" Doctors who prescribe it to anyone who walks in the door. I don't think legalizing it has solved any real problems or provided any incentive for legalization.
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 Living on the edge of common sense
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Location: Carpenter, WY | Well when the oxycontin and Percocet doesn't give me any relief from the pain and aching a couple of drags from the vapor pipe will allow me enough relief to get to and stay asleep. There will always be those that abuse anything that's out there. |
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Location: florida | If someone needs it for medical purposes then by all means they should be able to use it! |
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Location: 31 lengths farms | SKM - 2014-11-08 9:08 AM
Here in CO since it was legalized you have high school kids getting stoned at school during lunch. The homeless population has sky rocketed due to the transits that came here for the sole purpose of getting stoned legally. People on government entitlements have gone through the roof because people are only working enough to pay for their marijuana fix and munchies. How dies that not affect you if you have a job and pay taxes? I don't have a problem with it for medical reasons. But legalizing it for everyone is a HUGE mistake.
^^^This!
So if it is legal does that mean its okay for the school bus driver to light up at lunch time and then drive your kids home?
Also, we are in the middle of a drought here in CA, my dad has a cabin up in the mountains that he doesn't feel safe going to because of the Pot growing going on not to mention the water that has been diverted for growing the crop. We dont' have enough water to grow food and the pot growers are stealing what we do have to grow pot.
That being said, I have no issue for people with a real medicinal need to use it.
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 You just got to get mean and mean it.
Location: Arkansas | teehaha - 2014-11-07 2:23 PM Well when the oxycontin and Percocet doesn't give me any relief from the pain and aching a couple of drags from the vapor pipe will allow me enough relief to get to and stay asleep. There will always be those that abuse anything that's out there.
For those who find a need for pain relief, it's a God send!! If me or mine needed it for pain relief, I'd be on my way to Colorado. In a New York minute!
I suspect very few have ever suffered from the affect's of cancer or the chemo drugs they prescribe. The pain med's prescribed kill the pain...for a while. And make you so dopey you don't care if your dead or alive.
Plus, I've never heard of anyone over dosing on Marijuana.
Your always going to have one's who will abuse anything. Whether it is food, alchole, marijuana or prescrition drugs.
Never say never, you don't know what you'll do when push comes to shove.
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | cruise - 2014-11-07 1:29 PM NJJ - 2014-11-07 1:16 PM Medicinal Marijuana is a JOKE.......all you end up with is "storefront" Doctors who prescribe it to anyone who walks in the door. I don't think legalizing it has solved any real problems or provided any incentive for legalization. Exactly - thank you
I just wanted to clarify that I, in no way, meant that those who truly NEED the drug as a "medicine" should not have it......I am just referencing the debacle in CA that there are more people getting the drug "legally" for "medicine" that have NO need whatsoever for it......Because of "Storefront Doctors" |
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| Legalize it period.
Look up "Reefer Madness" on youtube, propaganda at its finest and were still buying into it.
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Living on the edge of common sense
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Location: Carpenter, WY | Lobo - 2014-11-07 3:14 PM teehaha - 2014-11-07 2:23 PM Well when the oxycontin and Percocet doesn't give me any relief from the pain and aching a couple of drags from the vapor pipe will allow me enough relief to get to and stay asleep. There will always be those that abuse anything that's out there. For those who find a need for pain relief, it's a God send!! If me or mine needed it for pain relief, I'd be on my way to Colorado. In a New York minute!
I suspect very few have ever suffered from the affect's of cancer or the chemo drugs they prescribe. The pain med's prescribed kill the pain...for a while. And make you so dopey you don't care if your dead or alive.
Plus, I've never heard of anyone over dosing on Marijuana.
Your always going to have one's who will abuse anything. Whether it is food, alchole, marijuana or prescrition drugs.
Never say never, you don't know what you'll do when push comes to shove.
Boy, isn't that the truth lobo. ; )
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| somebody must be smoking a little to much,... |
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Location: SE Louisiana | cruise - 2014-11-07 9:57 AM
I work at an alcohol and drug treatment center and I will tell you that I am opposed to the legalization of marijuana. I have spent a lot of time studing this topice and talked with people from CO about this. Our governor approved for the use of medical marijuana oil in our state - it was not put out for vote. Their is a mountain higher than Pikes Peak of problems with legalized marijuana. As far as the medical marijuana, the long term effects have not been studied and it is not FDA approved. The below is from a report out of CO concerning marijuana imparied traffic accidents. Traffic fatalities in Colorado decreased 16 percent1, from 2006 to 2011, which is consistent with national trends. During the same six years in Colorado, traffic fatalities involving drivers testing positive for just marijuana increased 114percent.2 • In 2006 in Colorado, traffic fatalities involving drivers testing positive for marijuana represented 5 percent of the total traffic fatalities. By 2011, that percent more than doubled to 13 percent.2 • In 2006, drivers testing positive for marijuana were involved in 28 percent of fatal vehicle crashes involving drugs. By 2011 that number had increased to 56 percentThis is the link to the report which contains a lot of information on this. http://www.rmhidta.org/html/FINAL%20Legalization%20of%20MJ%20in%20Colorado%20The%20Impact.pdfMommy50 was right on target with her post too. It is certainly no the pretty picture some would have you believe. Also, CO has not collected nearly the revenus they anticiapted by legalizing and taxing. Most are still buying off the black market. In my opinon the legalizing of marijuana in CO has been an epic failure.
I'm sorry... But if you expect me or anyone else to believe what The High Intensity Drug Trafficking Areas (HIDTA) fact sheet says you're smoking something harder than weed. HIDTA was formed right in the middle of the failed War On Drugs in the 80s and is nothing more than a propaganda agency dreamed up in Washington DC. And as far as taxes goes, they would be collecting a lot more if these shops had to run their businesses through the banks, which they can't do because the banks won't touch them. They have to do EVERYTHING on a Cash Only-Basis. |
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Location: Carpenter, WY | Itsme - 2014-11-07 6:09 PM somebody must be smoking a little to much,...
Lol.....I'm on my kindle and the dog is on my lap and keyboard 'helping' lol |
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| Itsme - 2014-11-07 6:44 PM
Legalize it period.
Look up "Reefer Madness" on youtube, propaganda at its finest and were still buying into it.
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| FlyingJT - 2014-11-07 7:59 PM
Itsme - 2014-11-07 6:44 PM
Legalize it period.
Look up "Reefer Madness" on youtube, propaganda at its finest and were still buying into it.
I don't usually agree with you but
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