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NEW BARREL PATTERNS - HERE THEY ARE -
grinandbareit
Reg. Jan 2007
Posted 2014-11-10 10:31 AM
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The following measurements are in the center of the barrel for ease of placement and explanation.

Standard Patterns for Barrel Racing

Arena size… 150' X 250' or larger (patterns A - C will fit this arena)
120' X 200' or larger (patterns B - C will fit this arena)
110' X 200' or larger (patterns B - D will fit this arena)
100' X 200' or larger (pattern D will fit this arena)
75' X 125' or larger (MINI -Mini patterns may be set in any arena)

Pattern A: Current WPRA standard pattern - 90' between first and second barrel, 105' between barrels 1 & 3 and 2 & 3, 60' from timer line to barrel 1 & 2. When using a closed gate or side entry gate a minimum of 75' between timer line and fence, chutes, or exit gate is recommended.

Pattern B: 80' between first and second barrel, 95' between barrels 1 & 3 and 2 & 3, 50' from timer line to barrels 1 & 2. When using a closed gate or side entry gate a minimum of 50' from the timer line to the fence, chutes or exit gate is recommended.

Pattern C: 70' between first and second barrel, 85' between barrels 1 & 3 and 2 & 3, 40' from timer line to barrels 1 & 2. When using a closed or side entry gate a minimum of 50' from the timer line to the fence, chutes or exit gate is recommended.

Pattern D: 65' between first and second barrel, 80' between barrels 1 & 3 and 2 & 3, 30' from timer line to barrels 1 & 2. When using a closed or side gate entry a minimum of 50' from the timer line to the fence, chutes or exit gate is recommended.

The Mini: 45' between first and second barrel, 65' between barrels 1 & 3 and 2 & 3, 25' from timer line to barrels 1 & 2. A closed gate is not recommended for this pattern in arenas that have a floor length of 150' or less.

SUGGESTED SAFETY REQUIREMENTS

BARRELS 1 AND 2 SHOULD ALWAYS BE PLACED A MINIMUM OF 15 FEET FROM ARENA WALLS AND FENCES, WITH 20 FEET BEING THE IDEAL… BARREL 3 SHOULD BE A MINIMUM OF 25 FEET FROM THE BACK ARENA FENCE OR WALL, IF AT ALL POSSIBLE.

IMPORTANT…
PLEASE CONSIDER THE DISTANCE THAT IT TAKES TO STOP A HORSE, RUNNING AT FULL SPEED, FROM THE 3RD BARREL TO THE TIMER LINE. THE SUGGESTIONS LISTED BETWEEN THE TIMER LINE AND THE FENCE, CHUTES OR EXIT GATE ARE "MINIMUM" REQUIREMENTS AND SHOULD BE ADJUSTED TO LONGER DISTANCES IF THE ARENA LENGTH WILL ALLOW IT.

When posting results be sure to include the pattern letter followed by CG or SG for a closed or side gate entry/exit.

Please like our page… You can see updates and see who is on board. Let's show producers and committees that we support these changes! It is long overdue and will be a great tool for the barrel racing community!

https://www.facebook.com/pages/A-New-Standard-in-Barrel-Racing/54087...



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cheryl makofka
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There are many patterns that are omitted in the sizes.

Regulation pattern with the exception of a 40 foot score.

Arenas that are 80 wide 55 between first and second

Arenas that are shorter 80 between first and second third a 95 arc

The Alberta barrel racing association look at their website we run different splits for different pattern sizes we go buy total footage, it may give you an idea
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grinandbareit
Reg. Jan 2007
Posted 2014-11-10 11:08 AM
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cheryl makofka - 2014-11-10 10:46 AM

There are many patterns that are omitted in the sizes.

Regulation pattern with the exception of a 40 foot score.

Arenas that are 80 wide 55 between first and second

Arenas that are shorter 80 between first and second third a 95 arc

The Alberta barrel racing association look at their website we run different splits for different pattern sizes we go buy total footage, it may give you an idea



Thanks for the info… I did take a look at it… It's actually a bit more complicated that our system here, lol.

Mainly, what we're trying to accomplish is a system that is #1 SIMPLE, #2 WILL FIT "MOST" VENUES, #3 USER FRIENDLY.

I was just looking at the measurements that you posted and just realized that the 80' wide arena only leaves 12.5' between the barrel and the walls. IMO, that is really pushing the limit for having enough room between the barrel and the wall.

I feel pretty good about these measurements… I think that they will fit most arenas here in the states, which is where the majority of us run. If other places want to use or adopt the standards then we'd love that. But I think that it is important that we do what is most beneficial for the majority. Safety of the horses and riders were also a big consideration in these pattern dimensions.





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WYOracer
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Posted 2014-11-10 11:23 AM
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cheryl makofka - 2014-11-10 9:46 AM There are many patterns that are omitted in the sizes. Regulation pattern with the exception of a 40 foot score. Arenas that are 80 wide 55 between first and second Arenas that are shorter 80 between first and second third a 95 arc The Alberta barrel racing association look at their website we run different splits for different pattern sizes we go buy total footage, it may give you an idea

 This doesn't allow for 15 ft from the fence on either side, which I know NBHA is 15 feet minimum and I think a lot of other organizations as well.  Obviously, there will be patterns used that aren't these standards but having the 4 to chose from is great.  It's like XS, S, M, L (the now standard
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grinandbareit
Reg. Jan 2007
Posted 2014-11-10 12:16 PM
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Please keep in mind folks that this is OUR set of standards. When you hear me mention "WE", I am talking about us, the barrel racers and the barrel racing community. The patterns that have been posted along with the rules and guidelines come from you the barrel racers. They were put together after talking to and reading messages from all of you. They are not MY ideas, but OUR ideas. As a group we have the ability to get this done. You are the one's that the producers are trying to attract. If you want a producer to adopt these standards then let them know. There is power in numbers and there is ALWAYS going to be someone that is willing to be open minded and forward thinking. Others may just need a little urging. Go have a blessed day and be sure to share our page! I'm (WE) are working on some other really cool things for these new guidelines. I'm not going to give it away just yet, but as I know more, YOU will know more! BUT YOU ARE GOING TO BE SO EXCITED!





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rodeowithjoker
Reg. Jun 2006
Posted 2014-11-10 12:31 PM
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I just want to add that in my opinion 40 feet between the timer and fence is not nearly enough room to stop one safely. In fact, even 45 feet of stopping distance scares the hell out of me because I've seen far too many horses hit the fence trying to get stopped. Also, my dad judges a lot of ammy rodeos and he swears that if 1st & 2nd are 15 feet off the fences you will hit a ton of barrels, but move each barrel in so they're 17 off the sides and you cut down on about 60-70 percent of the down barrels. (this is important to him as one of the people setting them up at rodeos LOL)

I love the idea of standardized patterns though.
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Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2014-11-10 12:35 PM
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what size is the supershows?

 
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grinandbareit
Reg. Jan 2007
Posted 2014-11-10 12:50 PM
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rodeowithjoker - 2014-11-10 12:31 PM

I just want to add that in my opinion 40 feet between the timer and fence is not nearly enough room to stop one safely. In fact, even 45 feet of stopping distance scares the hell out of me because I've seen far too many horses hit the fence trying to get stopped. Also, my dad judges a lot of ammy rodeos and he swears that if 1st & 2nd are 15 feet off the fences you will hit a ton of barrels, but move each barrel in so they're 17 off the sides and you cut down on about 60-70 percent of the down barrels. (this is important to him as one of the people setting them up at rodeos LOL)

I love the idea of standardized patterns though.


You're right RWJ - 15' is a MINIMUM and 20' is ideal. BUT you have to consider what people are doing now, and adjust for that. Unfortunately, not all arenas will allow for more room and that is why those MINIMUMS need to be considered. I have only run back to a closed gate or side entry a hand full of times and it is not my favorite thing to do. But... lots of those girls North of here are great at it. I lost a barrel race when I was in Colorado because I was shutting that sucker down 100 feet from the timer line, lol. (Well I ended up 3rd anyway, but he was making a run and I just couldn't make myself drive him across that line, lol.) I sure do respect those girls and guys that can get it done!

The reason I added the last paragraph was to urge producers to lengthen that distance from the timer line to the gate, if at all possible. Surely they will do that if they can.

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grinandbareit
Reg. Jan 2007
Posted 2014-11-10 12:53 PM
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kwanatha - 2014-11-10 12:35 PM

what size is the supershows?

 


There are super shows all across the country and they are all different. We tried to steer away from using any specific pattern size except for A & C, simply because we don't want producers to feel like we choose one pattern OVER another. These are "almost" random, so it places everyone on a pretty even playing field when they use these standards.

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rodeowithjoker
Reg. Jun 2006
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grinandbareit - 2014-11-10 12:50 PM
rodeowithjoker - 2014-11-10 12:31 PM I just want to add that in my opinion 40 feet between the timer and fence is not nearly enough room to stop one safely. In fact, even 45 feet of stopping distance scares the hell out of me because I've seen far too many horses hit the fence trying to get stopped. Also, my dad judges a lot of ammy rodeos and he swears that if 1st & 2nd are 15 feet off the fences you will hit a ton of barrels, but move each barrel in so they're 17 off the sides and you cut down on about 60-70 percent of the down barrels. (this is important to him as one of the people setting them up at rodeos LOL)



I love the idea of standardized patterns though.
You're right RWJ - 15' is a MINIMUM and 20' is ideal. BUT you have to consider what people are doing now, and adjust for that. Unfortunately, not all arenas will allow for more room and that is why those MINIMUMS need to be considered. I have only run back to a closed gate or side entry a hand full of times and it is not my favorite thing to do. But... lots of those girls North of here are great at it. I lost a barrel race when I was in Colorado because I was shutting that sucker down 100 feet from the timer line, lol. (Well I ended up 3rd anyway, but he was making a run and I just couldn't make myself drive him across that line, lol.) I sure do respect those girls and guys that can get it done! The reason I added the last paragraph was to urge producers to lengthen that distance from the timer line to the gate, if at all possible. Surely they will do that if they can.

You would hope but lord knows it doesn't happen with a lot of rodeo judges. Many many times I see or hear barrel racing directors asking them to give us more room to start & stop especially in pens with a side gate. I run at a lot of side gates and closed gates so they don't bother me too much, but 40-45 feet is not much room to get one stopped safely, particularly outdoors on bad ground, which I know isn't going to apply to big barrel races that will care about a standardized pattern cause if they care about the pattern they're going to care about the ground too. :)
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Reg. Feb 2012
Posted 2014-11-10 1:20 PM
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rodeowithjoker - 2014-11-10 11:31 AM I just want to add that in my opinion 40 feet between the timer and fence is not nearly enough room to stop one safely. In fact, even 45 feet of stopping distance scares the hell out of me because I've seen far too many horses hit the fence trying to get stopped. Also, my dad judges a lot of ammy rodeos and he swears that if 1st & 2nd are 15 feet off the fences you will hit a ton of barrels, but move each barrel in so they're 17 off the sides and you cut down on about 60-70 percent of the down barrels. (this is important to him as one of the people setting them up at rodeos LOL)

I love the idea of standardized patterns though.
 Agreed! Or if there is a solid wall behind second ooh there are always a ton of down barrels!

Edited by WYOracer 2014-11-10 2:26 PM
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rodeowithjoker
Reg. Jun 2006
Posted 2014-11-10 2:05 PM
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WYOracer - 2014-11-10 1:20 PM
rodeowithjoker - 2014-11-10 11:31 AM I just want to add that in my opinion 40 feet between the timer and fence is not nearly enough room to stop one safely. In fact, even 45 feet of stopping distance scares the hell out of me because I've seen far too many horses hit the fence trying to get stopped. Also, my dad judges a lot of ammy rodeos and he swears that if 1st & 2nd are 15 feet off the fences you will hit a ton of barrels, but move each barrel in so they're 17 off the sides and you cut down on about 60-70 percent of the down barrels. (this is important to him as one of the people setting them up at rodeos LOL)



I love the idea of standardized patterns though.
 Agreed! Or if there is a solid wall behind secon ooh there are always a ton of down barrels!

Or the 3rd barrel for that matter. Most of my district NBHAs are in a barn with a solid half wall behind the third and even though the barrel is 20-25 feet off the wall, it gets hit a lot. I have a devil of a time driving any of mine all the way on that one and probably knock the third over 70% of the time on Clifford. 
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grinandbareit
Reg. Jan 2007
Posted 2014-11-10 5:12 PM
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Let me stress to everyone here... These pattern sizes are the preliminary draft of what we are working on... They are not set in stone, YET. There is also something else that I would like everyone to know. I am not a barrel racing producer, nor do I have any underlying aspirations to become one. I am simply a lowly barrel racer with an idea that I decided to act upon. In the last 50 years I have learned some very valuable lessons... From being a business owner of a relatively successful business for the past 20+ years, I have learned that everyone's opinion should be considered, it makes for a successful outcome with less hard feelings... It doesn't really matter who gets the credit as long as the job gets done... And the most important lesson that I have learned, if you want to be successful in something surround yourself with people who are smarter than you are.

I want everyone that is reading this to know that those are the elements I am putting into play with this venture. I understand, and I hope that you do as well, that we will not make everyone happy. Although, if this system can be made as simple as possible, it can and will benefit many people. Don't let fear of "inexperience" or lack of knowledge stop you from moving forward with something that is in your heart, any more than you would let fear stop you from jumping on that horse just one more time. With God all things are possible and nothing is so trivial that He cannot have His hand upon it.

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grinandbareit
Reg. Jan 2007
Posted 2014-11-11 1:01 AM
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Everyone take a look at the NEW NEW patterns posted… I think adding the additional pattern is beneficial for the smaller venues with no alley. Hope you'll take a look at it and give your thoughts!

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Reg. Apr 2012
Posted 2014-11-11 6:18 AM
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grinandbareit - 2014-11-10 10:31 AM

The following measurements are in the center of the barrel for ease of placement and explanation.

Standard Patterns for Barrel Racing

Arena size… 150' X 250' or larger (patterns A - C will fit this arena)
120' X 200' or larger (patterns B - C will fit this arena)
110' X 200' or larger (patterns B - D will fit this arena)
100' X 200' or larger (pattern D will fit this arena)
75' X 125' or larger (MINI -Mini patterns may be set in any arena)

Pattern A: Current WPRA standard pattern - 90' between first and second barrel, 105' between barrels 1 & 3 and 2 & 3, 60' from timer line to barrel 1 & 2. When using a closed gate or side entry gate a minimum of 75' between timer line and fence, chutes, or exit gate is recommended.

Pattern B: 80' between first and second barrel, 95' between barrels 1 & 3 and 2 & 3, 50' from timer line to barrels 1 & 2. When using a closed gate or side entry gate a minimum of 50' from the timer line to the fence, chutes or exit gate is recommended.

Pattern C: 70' between first and second barrel, 85' between barrels 1 & 3 and 2 & 3, 40' from timer line to barrels 1 & 2. When using a closed or side entry gate a minimum of 50' from the timer line to the fence, chutes or exit gate is recommended.

Pattern D: 65' between first and second barrel, 80' between barrels 1 & 3 and 2 & 3, 30' from timer line to barrels 1 & 2. When using a closed or side gate entry a minimum of 50' from the timer line to the fence, chutes or exit gate is recommended.

The Mini: 45' between first and second barrel, 65' between barrels 1 & 3 and 2 & 3, 25' from timer line to barrels 1 & 2. A closed gate is not recommended for this pattern in arenas that have a floor length of 150' or less.

SUGGESTED SAFETY REQUIREMENTS

BARRELS 1 AND 2 SHOULD ALWAYS BE PLACED A MINIMUM OF 15 FEET FROM ARENA WALLS AND FENCES, WITH 20 FEET BEING THE IDEAL… BARREL 3 SHOULD BE A MINIMUM OF 25 FEET FROM THE BACK ARENA FENCE OR WALL, IF AT ALL POSSIBLE.

IMPORTANT…
PLEASE CONSIDER THE DISTANCE THAT IT TAKES TO STOP A HORSE, RUNNING AT FULL SPEED, FROM THE 3RD BARREL TO THE TIMER LINE. THE SUGGESTIONS LISTED BETWEEN THE TIMER LINE AND THE FENCE, CHUTES OR EXIT GATE ARE "MINIMUM" REQUIREMENTS AND SHOULD BE ADJUSTED TO LONGER DISTANCES IF THE ARENA LENGTH WILL ALLOW IT.

When posting results be sure to include the pattern letter followed by CG or SG for a closed or side gate entry/exit.

Please like our page… You can see updates and see who is on board. Let's show producers and committees that we support these changes! It is long overdue and will be a great tool for the barrel racing community!

https://www.facebook.com/pages/A-New-Standard-in-Barrel-Racing/54087...


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as in, I like the new standards concept.
I still hate Facebook, so I can't go there and Like it, lol.
Thanks to everyone for posting the stuff from Facebook over here!!
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snazzy
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Posted 2014-11-11 7:41 AM
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 IMO and it is just that My Opinion.  patterns B and C with 50 and 40ft from timers to barrels is too far......should be 30 and 40 or 35 and 40 then the one that is 95 to 3rd should be 100 but I see you just added 15 foot to the 3rd from every 1-2 measurement to come up with the 3rd barrel measurement.......but 90 to 100 feet to the 1st and second barrels has those horses rolling faster to the 1st than to the 3rd when you allow for alley way entries plus the further down the pen you place the first barrel, the more of the natural pocket you take away from the horse as you are running further down the pen which makes you go straigher down the pen......additionally for my races in particular my tractors park in the corners on the 1-2 barrel end and that distance to 1-2 barrel with pattern pushed that far down the pen will slow down the number of horses run per hour......and if it is a true 200 foot pen their isnt much room left at the 3rd barrel end.
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grinandbareit
Reg. Jan 2007
Posted 2014-11-11 10:13 AM
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snazzy - 2014-11-11 7:41 AM

 IMO and it is just that My Opinion.  patterns B and C with 50 and 40ft from timers to barrels is too far......should be 30 and 40 or 35 and 40 then the one that is 95 to 3rd should be 100 but I see you just added 15 foot to the 3rd from every 1-2 measurement to come up with the 3rd barrel measurement.......but 90 to 100 feet to the 1st and second barrels has those horses rolling faster to the 1st than to the 3rd when you allow for alley way entries plus the further down the pen you place the first barrel, the more of the natural pocket you take away from the horse as you are running further down the pen which makes you go straigher down the pen......additionally for my races in particular my tractors park in the corners on the 1-2 barrel end and that distance to 1-2 barrel with pattern pushed that far down the pen will slow down the number of horses run per hour......and if it is a true 200 foot pen their isnt much room left at the 3rd barrel end.


Renee, the 50' guideline is for those that are running back to a closed gate. It would not apply to the arenas around here. You could set your timers right at the entrance to the alleyway if you wanted, the 50 foot only applies when needing the stopping distance from timer line to a closed gate.

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grinandbareit - 2014-11-11 10:13 AM
snazzy - 2014-11-11 7:41 AM  IMO and it is just that My Opinion.  patterns B and C with 50 and 40ft from timers to barrels is too far......should be 30 and 40 or 35 and 40 then the one that is 95 to 3rd should be 100 but I see you just added 15 foot to the 3rd from every 1-2 measurement to come up with the 3rd barrel measurement.......but 90 to 100 feet to the 1st and second barrels has those horses rolling faster to the 1st than to the 3rd when you allow for alley way entries plus the further down the pen you place the first barrel, the more of the natural pocket you take away from the horse as you are running further down the pen which makes you go straigher down the pen......additionally for my races in particular my tractors park in the corners on the 1-2 barrel end and that distance to 1-2 barrel with pattern pushed that far down the pen will slow down the number of horses run per hour......and if it is a true 200 foot pen their isnt much room left at the 3rd barrel end.
Renee, the 50' guideline is for those that are running back to a closed gate. It would not apply to the arenas around here. You could set your timers right at the entrance to the alleyway if you wanted, the 50 foot only applies when needing the stopping distance from timer line to a closed gate.

I agree with the 50 foot stop time even for arenas with an alley as some alleys are short like Gonzales.....that distance a producer can adjust without much impact on the standardization of the patterns but I am concerned with the distance from timers to barrels is what I was saying. 
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grinandbareit
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Posted 2014-11-11 6:09 PM
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snazzy - 2014-11-11 11:38 AM

grinandbareit - 2014-11-11 10:13 AM
snazzy - 2014-11-11 7:41 AM  IMO and it is just that My Opinion.  patterns B and C with 50 and 40ft from timers to barrels is too far......should be 30 and 40 or 35 and 40 then the one that is 95 to 3rd should be 100 but I see you just added 15 foot to the 3rd from every 1-2 measurement to come up with the 3rd barrel measurement.......but 90 to 100 feet to the 1st and second barrels has those horses rolling faster to the 1st than to the 3rd when you allow for alley way entries plus the further down the pen you place the first barrel, the more of the natural pocket you take away from the horse as you are running further down the pen which makes you go straigher down the pen......additionally for my races in particular my tractors park in the corners on the 1-2 barrel end and that distance to 1-2 barrel with pattern pushed that far down the pen will slow down the number of horses run per hour......and if it is a true 200 foot pen their isnt much room left at the 3rd barrel end.
Renee, the 50' guideline is for those that are running back to a closed gate. It would not apply to the arenas around here. You could set your timers right at the entrance to the alleyway if you wanted, the 50 foot only applies when needing the stopping distance from timer line to a closed gate.

I agree with the 50 foot stop time even for arenas with an alley as some alleys are short like Gonzales.....that distance a producer can adjust without much impact on the standardization of the patterns but I am concerned with the distance from timers to barrels is what I was saying. 


I do understand what you are saying when you mention the distance between the score line (timer line) and the 1st and 2nd barrel. The method behind the madness is to keep this as simple as possible for those who want to use it. These patterns came directly from the current WPRA pattern and were just broken down into 10' increments. Many people have mentioned the importance of having a balanced pattern (triangle). The easiest way to do that is to add the 15' to the distance between barrels 1 & 2 and that gives you the distance to barrel 3. The same thing for the score line... It was broken down in 10 foot increments. 60, 50, 40, 30 and of course, the mini, to give a variety of pattern sizes so, hopefully, folks can find one that will work.

You know this better than anyone... You are NOT going to make everybody happy. I have had tons of people messaging me and calling me about this, 98% of them are excited and ready to move forward with it. I was really focusing on getting that 2% in... But, they may end up going to Magnolia instead of Gonzales, if you know what I mean, lol.

I want you to know that I really appreciate you and your help on this project, you have been very patient when answering my questions and the info really helped a lot. See ya in Gonzales!

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Posted 2014-11-12 11:34 AM
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Well none of these patterns will work in more than half the rodeos I go to up here. Many are on 60' wide race tracks and I have run on a 45' wide race track. Y'all do the math on that one! Barrels set 15' off the fence. Normally barrels are placed inside the stakes and they came and asked us if they could be put on the outside for that one.

As long as they give us room to stop, I don't care how they are set up. We all have to runs the same pattern at any given rodeo. I understand that y'all are trying to get some consistency for comparison but seriously do we need MORE rules and complications?

Sigh.....the hazards of being an old curmudgeon......
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grinandbareit
Reg. Jan 2007
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rodeoveteran - 2014-11-12 11:34 AM

Well none of these patterns will work in more than half the rodeos I go to up here. Many are on 60' wide race tracks and I have run on a 45' wide race track. Y'all do the math on that one! Barrels set 15' off the fence. Normally barrels are placed inside the stakes and they came and asked us if they could be put on the outside for that one.

As long as they give us room to stop, I don't care how they are set up. We all have to runs the same pattern at any given rodeo. I understand that y'all are trying to get some consistency for comparison but seriously do we need MORE rules and complications?

Sigh.....the hazards of being an old curmudgeon......


Thnks for your input, and please keep in mind that this is not aimed at the rodeo world. They have their own way of doing things that's for sure. If a rodeo organization wants to use it they can, but they don't have to. You are entitled to disagree, some people just aren't comfortable with change and that's fine, too. We are all different, that's what makes the world go round.



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equussynergy
Reg. Feb 2009
Posted 2014-11-12 9:27 PM
Subject: RE: NEW BARREL PATTERNS - HERE THEY ARE -



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rodeoveteran - 2014-11-12 10:34 AM Well none of these patterns will work in more than half the rodeos I go to up here. Many are on 60' wide race tracks and I have run on a 45' wide race track. Y'all do the math on that one! Barrels set 15' off the fence. Normally barrels are placed inside the stakes and they came and asked us if they could be put on the outside for that one. As long as they give us room to stop, I don't care how they are set up. We all have to runs the same pattern at any given rodeo. I understand that y'all are trying to get some consistency for comparison but seriously do we need MORE rules and complications? Sigh.....the hazards of being an old curmudgeon......

That sound scary! Where do we find videos of that?
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rodeoveteran
Reg. Jan 2009
Posted 2014-11-12 9:59 PM
Subject: RE: NEW BARREL PATTERNS - HERE THEY ARE -



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equussynergy - 2014-11-12 9:27 PM

rodeoveteran - 2014-11-12 10:34 AM Well none of these patterns will work in more than half the rodeos I go to up here. Many are on 60' wide race tracks and I have run on a 45' wide race track. Y'all do the math on that one! Barrels set 15' off the fence. Normally barrels are placed inside the stakes and they came and asked us if they could be put on the outside for that one. As long as they give us room to stop, I don't care how they are set up. We all have to runs the same pattern at any given rodeo. I understand that y'all are trying to get some consistency for comparison but seriously do we need MORE rules and complications? Sigh.....the hazards of being an old curmudgeon......

That sound scary! Where do we find videos of that?

Somewhere in this house, I have an old video (on a VCR tape no less) of running on such a pattern. I hit the second barrel which was set on the high side of the track. It took forever to fall and as I rounded the third barrel it began to roll downhill towards the first barrel. Almost everyone hit, so I begin a conversation in my mind...."The rulebook says you must pass between the first and second barrel on the way home. Does that mean where they are staked or where they ACTUALLY are??" So you can see me start to pull up my horse, then push him, doing this a couple of times before we BARELY squeak through in the foot and a half space that was closing fast.

Announcer and the crowd went wild! Sadly....I did not place. I believe it was the same rodeo where I tied my hair into my wrap and hooey in the goat tying. Threw my hands up in the air with my face nearly in the tie.....

Sorry for getting off topic but ya gotta admit, it's a little entertaining.

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grinandbareit
Reg. Jan 2007
Posted 2014-11-14 7:21 PM
Subject: RE: NEW BARREL PATTERNS - HERE THEY ARE -



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I just want to keep this bumped up for those that may have missed it... I also want everyone to know that we will be adding the 2013 NFR pattern to the "standards". Thanks again for all the support. If you haven't liked our FB page, go check it out!

Be sure to mark your calendar... DECEMBER 15, 2014, we have a GREAT surprise in store!

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