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New farrier for trim! Thoughts?!
Luvmyebstang
Reg. Jul 2011
Posted 2014-11-13 2:43 AM
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I tried out a new farrier and had my girl trimmed. She has never worn shoes, only gets trims. Got those hard Mustang feet ;)
I'll post photos, what do ya'll think?? How'd he do??



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Luvmyebstang
Reg. Jul 2011
Posted 2014-11-14 2:02 AM
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Posted 2014-11-14 8:24 AM
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Rotate you pic...kinda hard to see 
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Posted 2014-11-14 11:30 AM
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Kind of hard to see. But looks like the toe on the right foot is longer, with a shorter heel. Overall they look ok though, I think the heel on the right is about perfect, mixed with the toe on the left haha.
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Reg. Jan 2014
Posted 2014-11-14 11:32 AM
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LuckyNGG'sGirl
Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2014-11-14 11:35 AM
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Luvmyebstang - 2014-11-13 2:43 AM

I tried out a new farrier and had my girl trimmed. She has never worn shoes, only gets trims. Got those hard Mustang feet ;)
I'll post photos, what do ya'll think?? How'd he do??

Hard to see because the pic is rotated but it looks like her right front toe is longer and her heel more dropped than her left. Left looks more upright.
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Reg. Sep 2010
Posted 2014-11-14 9:16 PM
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Like others have already stated, her left hoof looks more upright than the right and it also looks longer to me.
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Posted 2014-11-14 10:40 PM
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Reg. Nov 2004
Posted 2014-11-14 11:33 PM
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I love my horse being barefoot. I was having shoers and a barefoot trimmer and my horse was always sore so I went back to shoeing. But he just never felt 100% like I thought he should. So I tried one more time but did something different. I ordered the Pete Ramey videos (16 hour long one) and man what a difference! and I am doing this myself. This video has saved me a ton of money. I am about 8 months into this, I have learned a lot! I will admit that I have made my horse sore off and on, but that was how I learned to see what works for him. I don't think it is about how pretty they look, it is about how they travel and feel no matter what it looks like! I highly recommend this video! typical trimming just didn't work for my horse. good luck :))
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NJJ
Reg. Jul 2006
Posted 2014-11-15 8:06 AM
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Let's just say......from those pictures, I wouldn't hire him again! 
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Reg. Dec 2006
Posted 2014-11-15 8:33 AM
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That picture doesn't really show enough to give an honest opinion. You need to get down on ground level with the foot to take the picture. Shoot one from the side & one from the front. As well as a picture of the sole. 
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SC Wrangler
Reg. Jul 2004
Posted 2014-11-16 12:20 PM
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I think you take critiques from a picture with a BIG grain of salt.  Horses feet are not necessarily equal foot to foot in conformation, shape, heels, flare, growth, etc, etc and nobody can make that call from a picture.  Farriers have to deal in the reality of what is there and the work (or lack thereof) that preceded them.  The farrier cannot force symmetry that is not there or necessarily fix existing issues in one trim.  Talk to the guy and get a grasp of what problems and issues he sees and what he feels needs to be done going forward.  At least get a feel for his knowledge and experience before just dismissing him completely.  
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Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2014-11-16 12:25 PM
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I've seen worse... I worry about taking the wall off that high up but I don't have the feet in-hand so it's hard to call.. For those that say the angels are uneven, that call can be made if the horse is standing on a hard surface, not when it is standing on UNEVEN dirt.
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Luvmyebstang
Reg. Jul 2011
Posted 2014-11-17 3:16 AM
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Yeah I noticed that too about her right looking longer in the toe after he did it. He's fairly new and only been doing horses feet for 1.5 years but he had great reviews on fb so I gave him a try. I feel I need to try another person. I took many photos, on even ground too but it wouldn't let me upload a few only one? How do you load a few pics at once on here?
She moves great but always has so it's hard to tell! She's never been lame a day in her 15 years. But I do agree that right toe is longer and heel sitting lower.
He was a pretty young guy and very cocky overly confident while bashing other farriers and asked who I've used. That turned me off :/
He was very serious about booking my next appointment and forceful about it and wanted to trim her 6 weeks from then. That is too soon for her and a waste of $$$. I texted him to cancel and he was like is something wrong??
So is he just terrible or 'ok'? Lol

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Reg. Mar 2014
Posted 2014-11-17 9:10 AM
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Luvmyebstang - 2014-11-17 3:16 AM Yeah I noticed that too about her right looking longer in the toe after he did it. He's fairly new and only been doing horses feet for 1.5 years but he had great reviews on fb so I gave him a try. I feel I need to try another person. I took many photos, on even ground too but it wouldn't let me upload a few only one? How do you load a few pics at once on here? She moves great but always has so it's hard to tell! She's never been lame a day in her 15 years. But I do agree that right toe is longer and heel sitting lower. He was a pretty young guy and very cocky overly confident while bashing other farriers and asked who I've used. That turned me off :/ He was very serious about booking my next appointment and forceful about it and wanted to trim her 6 weeks from then. That is too soon for her and a waste of $$$. I texted him to cancel and he was like is something wrong?? So is he just terrible or 'ok'? Lol

These are all HUGE red flags to me!  I don't care how good other people say he is, if you're not comfortable with him I think you need to seek out a new farrier.  Having a comfortable relationship with anyone who helps care for your horse - your vet, farrier, barn manager, etc. - is so important.  If you're not comfortable, important questions may go unasked.
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Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2014-11-17 9:40 AM
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Luvmyebstang - 2014-11-17 3:16 AM

Yeah I noticed that too about her right looking longer in the toe after he did it. He's fairly new and only been doing horses feet for 1.5 years but he had great reviews on fb so I gave him a try. I feel I need to try another person. I took many photos, on even ground too but it wouldn't let me upload a few only one? How do you load a few pics at once on here?
She moves great but always has so it's hard to tell! She's never been lame a day in her 15 years. But I do agree that right toe is longer and heel sitting lower.
He was a pretty young guy and very cocky overly confident while bashing other farriers and asked who I've used. That turned me off :/
He was very serious about booking my next appointment and forceful about it and wanted to trim her 6 weeks from then. That is too soon for her and a waste of $$$. I texted him to cancel and he was like is something wrong??
So is he just terrible or 'ok'? Lol

Most barefoot trimmers like horses on a 4-6 week schedule, so I do agree with him on rebooking.

You saying it is a waste of money trimming disturbs me. Barefoot trimming you shouldn't be taking a lot off each time, in a perfect world the trimmer will only rasp it off and not trim.

If a horse gets too long that is more stress on the lamania, more stress on the joints, and more stress on the tendons and ligaments therefore can create major issues both acute and chronic.

If you are concerned about the feet being uneven, then invest in a hoof angle that way you have concrete proof she is uneven, also measure with a tape measure the toe and see if the measurements are equal.
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Luvmyebstang
Reg. Jul 2011
Posted 2014-11-17 12:49 PM
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I definitely wasn't comfortable with him and he was too agressive. He never pet her and talked to her, just had me walk her first then started. I take amazing care of my girl so please don't say I don't when it comes to her feet! She doesn't grow as fast as she use to because she's 15 now. There is nothing to trim at 6 weeks on her honestly. She's never been lame, always feels great and has HUGE hard rock Mustang feet for her small
Size. In between I rasp her feet myself and keep them smooth. So yes it is a waste of money when she had nothing to take off when I keep up with it. I spoil my girl rotten and always put her before myself. That new farrier just is an idiot and I'm going to try another.
I agree with re booking but not at 6 weeks for my girl.

Where can you purchase a good hoof angle? I'm
Going to try that and get the measuring tape out.

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NJJ
Reg. Jul 2006
Posted 2014-11-17 1:03 PM
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Luvmyebstang - 2014-11-17 12:49 PM  Where can you purchase a good hoof angle? I'm Going to try that and get the measuring tape out.

 You can get them here or at Jeffers or Valley Vet Supply too

 
http://www.anvilbrand.com/Search.aspx?k=hoof%20angle


 
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ACEINTHEHOLE
Reg. Apr 2005
Posted 2014-11-17 1:29 PM
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I do not agree at all with farrier's bashing other farriers.. I can't get a bad word out of my farrier's mouth about another, and I have known him and been using him for 6 years.  Anyway, on the other hand, maybe he noticed her lack of symetry and angles being off, that is why he wanted to schedule for 6 weeks.. even though she may not have much growth, you still need to be agressive in the beginning to get it corrected (not aggressive in taking large amounts of, but aggressive in time to get ahead of the curve).   I also agree whole-heartedly with SC Wrangler!  My farrier tells me every time he comes out, when I question him.. he can't make my horses rf foot look like the lf exactly, as they grow at different angles and shapes.. he has to shoe/trim to the horses foot (while keeping balance and angles correct).

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