bris2125 - 2014-11-16 10:44 PM

It was recommended to a friend and Neither of us know anything about it. I was told it was helpful with horses that have low immunity or are sick a lot and I have a horse like that so I thought it might be worth it. He's been diagnosed in a year with epm, cancer, ppsm, epm again, ulcers, kidney stones and that's all I can think of for now. I never did the spinal tap or strand, test for epm bc I don't think that's his issue at all and we did one full 30 day treatment with no change.

Do y'all know the cost?

barrelracr131 - 2014-11-18 3:03 PM

 Ozone gas is toxic- it is used to sterilize objects and medical instruments. 


what the heck are y'all talking about. 

HotbearLVR - 2014-11-18 3:28 PM


Yeah, but you gotta admit, it does sound cool. Like a street rod that runs on nitro. Badass. Give the connotation of jet fuel or something like that.

Nevertooold - 2014-11-18 3:45 PM

This is what it said on WEB MD
Ozone therapy is the use of ozone gas to treat certain medical conditions. It is most commonly practiced in Europe.

Ozone therapy is used for “slipped disks” in the spine, diabetes, heart disease, cancer, an eye disease called macular degeneration, and Parkinson's disease. It is also used for treating abscesses and other signs of infections. Ozone is sometimes used to stop dental cavities from progressing.


How does it work?
Ozone is a naturally occurring chemical that consists of three oxygen atoms. Ozone is a powerful oxidizing agent. High concentrations of ozone can be toxic to living organisms and are considered a major source of pollution.

However, small ozone doses are thought to increase some naturally occurring antioxidants in the body. Antioxidants help to fight off cancer and benefit the body in other ways as well.
 

HotbearLVR - 2014-11-18 4:52 PM


Yup, you can find a lot of doctors who will give you all the ozone for a lot of things and they swear by it.

We have a name for this procedure in medicine: wallet biopsy.

HotbearLVR - 2014-11-18 8:12 PM I'm open to learning, and I would be willing to change my mind, but only if you can provide me with GOOD evidence. Testimonials do not constitute research. Please share your research/evidence. Let's start with your remarks about "medical oxygen". How does that differ from non-medical oxygen? Oxygen is oxygen.

Nevertooold - 2014-11-18 9:35 PM


So is WEB MD a quack site??? 

bris2125 - 2014-11-18 10:05 PM

All I know is it's been around forever and a highly reputable vet in Texas is recommending it.
There are a ton on medications and procedures for humans I'd call wallet biopsies but that's another forum discussion.

I was just curious for this that have done it and have experience with it what their thoughts were.

HotbearLVR - 2014-11-18 9:12 PM

I'm open to learning, and I would be willing to change my mind, but only if you can provide me with GOOD evidence. Testimonials do not constitute research. Please share your research/evidence.

Let's start with your remarks about "medical oxygen". How does that differ from non-medical oxygen? Oxygen is oxygen.

AfleetEquine - 2014-11-19 7:06 AM Atmospheric oxygen is not pure oxygen. It is mixed with other particles. Medical oxygen is clean, pure oxygen. Yes oxygen is oxygen. Let me be more correct. Dirty air vs oxygen.

LRQHS - 2014-11-19 8:02 AM And a Scientist lol....just had to throw that in there little buddy :) 

ACEINTHEHOLE - 2014-11-19 8:05 AM Thanks.. I was working under the assumption that being an M.D. went hand in hand with being a scientist... LOL, but we all know what assuming does to you.. haha. 

AfleetEquine - 2014-11-19 7:18 AM

http://www.understandingozone.com/docs/Scientific_References_Ozone_...

http://healthychristianliving.com/ozoneaids1.htm


" If there's something that may be very effective and may under sell the average drug company, of course their not going to be very pleased if that gets developed."

The FDA is run by pharmacists, of course they don't want ozone to have a good name! Ive personally done cancer, non sweaters, and EPM in horses.

AfleetEquine - 2014-11-19 7:18 AM

http://www.understandingozone.com/docs/Scientific_References_Ozone_...

http://healthychristianliving.com/ozoneaids1.htm


" If there's something that may be very effective and may under sell the average drug company, of course their not going to be very pleased if that gets developed."

The FDA is run by pharmacists, of course they don't want ozone to have a good name! Ive personally done cancer, non sweaters, and EPM in horses.

AfleetEquine - 2014-11-19 7:06 AM


Atmospheric oxygen is not pure oxygen. It is mixed with other particles. Medical oxygen is clean, pure oxygen.

Yes oxygen is oxygen. Let me be more correct. Dirty air vs oxygen.

LRQHS - 2014-11-19 8:06 AM No, lol, Alison is the Scientist lol. 

HotbearLVR - 2014-11-18 10:43 PM What's his name? I want to make sure I don't use him.

HotbearLVR - 2014-11-19 8:46 AM
Got to love this statement....I wish more people would listen and QUIT promoting "junk science" !!!! 

AfleetEquine - 2014-11-16 4:53 PM I do my own horses IV and bag wounds for other's. I love it. It saved my horse from Lyme's disease, that's why I started doing it.

barrelracr131 - 2014-11-19 10:55 AM

So you perform this service on yourself, your horses, and others' horses? 

AfleetEquine - 2014-11-19 10:43 AM


I am by law allowed to do my own horses IV and do external for other people.

There are many vets that do have ozone therapy that are very highly recommended, and respected that do use ozone. It's a shame you only want to bash something because you have never experienced it.

I am thankful for someone introducing it to me as it is the only reason my horse is here today. I am not going to get rude and ugly like you are doing. I didn't believe it at first, I had to see it work for my own eyes; but after spending thousands of dollars trying to find out what was wrong with a horse and only got told that's not it and we still don't know, the cost of ozone was NOTHING.

I do know the difference between air and oxygen. Again, excuse me for not being politically correct.

bris2125 - 2014-11-19 11:05 AM

Thank you for your reply since you do have experience with it. I had a horse on his death bed, that 4 different vets couldn't diagnose after spending thousands of dollars. They were trying to schedule the date for me to euthanize him. In a last ditch effort, I went to someone that was a holistic vet, that all the other vets said was a quack. (Ironic the wording bc it's a lot of what I'm hearing here from a doctor and others). Anyhow, that quack saved my horse when they couldn't and in 6 weeks he was back 100%!
I will take holistic and non modern medicine all day long, I watched modern medicine kill my healthy 62 year old father last year. I grew up in the medical industry with dr's and pharmacist and I know how they generally work. But that's neither here or there. Thanks again for stating you EXPERIENCE over just an uneducated opinion.

As for the vet, you would prob be surprised bc some of the best in the industry, including a couple nfr gals, use this clinic and vet often. I have also come to find out that Scamper received a ozone treatment before every run. That wasn't out of Charmaynes mouth, but from a friend that hauled with her. Take it as you wish.

AfleetEquine - 2014-11-19 11:55 AM

Only if I bag wounds.
But with most of my therapies if they don't notice a difference I don't charge.

HotbearLVR - 2014-11-19 1:02 PM


Ahhhh, so you do sell it then?
As I expected.....follow the money.

Nuff said.

HotbearLVR - 2014-11-19 1:00 PM


Explain to us exactly what that "ozone treatment" consisted of. Tell us what is administered and how.
I hope a lot of people take note, because this thread is very educational and it illustrates a lot of key maneuvers the quacks will pull on order to sway people. First, they bring up their product in a forum. Often times, with a little probing, it can be shown that they actually profit somehow from the promotion (ie: follow the money)
You challenge their premise.....they tell people to do their "research" even though they wouldn't know real research if they saw it. They scurry about for a "reference" that purports to be loaded with "scientific evidence", but with a little effort you can easily refute that as well. Then they attack western medicine and use a tool that cannot be refuted: the anecdote.
The anecdote comes in various forms, such as a friend or relative who died as a result of the failure of western medicine, or a rumor that many successful people owe their success to the quackery. The more I see these things, the more I am inclined to write a book someday!

Anyway, please answer two questions:
Do you profit in any way from the sale of ozone therapy?
How did Charmayne treat Scamper with ozone? Was it inhaled? Was it injected into an oriface? A vein?

bris2125 - 2014-11-19 12:52 PM

Again, I don't know. I wasn't there, nor do I know exactly how it works. This is the best info if have found that is short enough to post that is still detain in explaining the oxygen atoms and how to administer it.

Ozone and other oxygen therapies have been used for over 100 years around the world for human and animal healing. These therapies continue to gain popularity, as scientists learn about the health benefits of increased oxygen in the body. Currently, ozone therapy and hyperbaric treatments, which bring easily soluble oxygen to target tissues, are being proven effective for treating viruses, fungi and bacteria, and for general health improvement anytime there is inflammation and damaged tissue. In addition to medical uses, ozone is a great disinfectant used for livestock water tanks, cattle embryo transfer(tt), swimming pools, spas and the water treatment systems of over 2,000 municipalities around the world.

How it works

Ozone contains three oxygen atoms, which react in the tissue as it breaks down to ordinary oxygen (O2) and a reactive singlet oxygen molecule that can combine with chemicals and other molecules. Free from side effects, this is an extremely safe therapy that works in a number of ways by:

1. Decreasing inflammation. When you have inflammation, swelling, bruising, infection, cancer and trauma to the tissue, there are higher amounts of carbon dioxide within the tissue. This increase of carbon dioxide contributes to inflammation and pain. Increasing the amount of oxygen delivered to the tissue in the form of reactive ozone decreases inflammation, pain and swelling, and helps increase healing.

2. Activating the immune system. Ozone therapy has also been shown to activate the immune system by stimulating cytokine production. Cytokines are “messenger cells”, such as interferons and interleukins, which “set off a cascade reaction of positive changes throughout the immune system.”(t). Ozone also promotes the production of glutathione peroxidase, catalase, reductase and super-oxide dismutase, the enzymes forming the cell wall coating; thereby enhancing cellular immunity. 3. Inactivating bacteria, viruses, fungi, yeast and protozoa. Healthy cells are surrounded by an enzyme coating, which ozone does not penetrate, but bacteria and viruses have no such coatings. Ozone therapy disrupts the integrity of the bacterial cell envelope through oxidation of the phospholipids and lipoproteins (peroxidation). In viruses, this peroxidation disrupts the reproductive cycle and damages the viral capsid. In fungi, ozone inhibits cell growth. Consider chronic otitis, which often has multiple organisms as primary or secondary invaders; this explains the efficacy of ozone treatment.

Administration options

Since ozone helps with the healing of any problem, it can be added to any treatment protocol.

1. Percolate into saline fluids to be used as a flush (decreases inflammation and pain) to wounds, bladder, rectum, ear, nose, mouth; enema; IV or SQ fluids to be absorbed through the capillaries of the subcutaneous tissue.

2. Percolate through olive oil with or without essential oils for the skin.

3. As a gas via a catheter, internally, or by sealing a wounded area in a bag (old fluid bags work well). It will be absorbed through the caudal rectal vein.

4. Injected as a gas into joints with a prolotherapy injection (prolozone). Human study1 showed efficacy in pain relief for many conditions.

An added technique using ozone is Biophotonic Blood Therapy (BBT), in which blood is infused with ozone, exposed to ultraviolet light in a crystal cuvette, and then given back to the patient. Also called Ultraviolet Blood Irradiation, it has been used worldwide for over 50 years for an array of medical conditions. It may be more effective than mere ozone for stimulating cytokines and activating the mitochondria in each cell to strengthen an animal’s immune system.

Ozone preparation

Oxygen as a single molecule is highly unstable and exists for only microseconds in nature. However, when two oxygen atoms unite to share electrons, they form an oxygen molecule, referred to as O2. This molecule is very stable, and comprises the form of oxygen found in the atmosphere. To create ozone, pure surgical oxygen (ordinary air cannot be used as it has 20% nitrogen which would be converted to nitrous oxide and nitric oxide, both highly toxic) is flowed through a glass tube (do not use models with plastic tubing). A low voltage electrical spark is then applied through the outside of the tube. This briefly splits the paired oxygen atoms, most of which reform into pairs within microseconds. A small percentage of the individual oxygen atoms form triplets – ozone (O3). The ozone produced exists in a very active form for about 30 minutes before breaking down (dismutating) into two atoms of oxygen, which are very easily absorbed into the cells, by giving up one atom of singlet oxygen. Ozone will dismutate at a rate of 50% every 45 minutes in glass, and every 30 minutes in plastic. Therefore the ozone cannot be stored and used later.

Uses are many and varied

Any time there are infections or inflammation, tissue damage or abnormal cellular proliferation, ozone can be use to support treatments, conventional or holistic. A few examples are:

1. Skin – wounds, especially degloving ones and deep abrasions; hot spots; pyodermas; allergic dermatitis; abscesses

2. Pain relief

3. Head trauma, spinal cord inflammation–ozone and oxygen go through the blood/brain barrier so it is an excellent way to aid treatment of any neurological issue

4. Chronic and acute Lyme disease

5. Mouth–stomatitis, gingivitis, abscesses; ozone therapy is ADA-approved for dental abscesses

6. Cancer and autoimmune problems

7. Ears – chronic and acute otitis from bacteria or yeast; aural hematomas

8. Eyes – infections and allergic reactions

9. Upper respiratory ailments

10. Potentiates acupuncture, homeopathy and chiropractic treatments as it brings more needed oxygen to the body

11. GI tract – constipation, diarrhea, IBS (decreases inflammation)

12. Equine infectious anemia

Integrating ozone into your veterinary clinic protocols gives you a wonderful opportunity to use something very natural and sustainable that can reduce and possibly prevent the overuse of antibiotics and drugs. Technicians can administer ozone in most of its applications. As a holistic integrative veterinarian, I think it potentiates some of the other natural modalities I use, such as acupuncture, homeopathy, herbs and chiropractic. Antibiotics are also more effective with ozone as an adjunct. It is also a practice builder, since clients are searching for supportive ways to help their pets. With training, pet owners can get an ozone unit and administer it in a variety of ways themselves. Because ozone is antiviral, it should be a must for any animal shelter that deals with a lot of infectious viruses.
A veterinary certification course is now offered by the American Academy of Ozonotherapy AAOT (aaot.us).You can also contact veterinarians using ozone therapy for their own experiences and case reports at the AHVMA (ahvma.org).

dhdqhllc - 2014-11-19 1:05 PM but i'm quite curious at this point....



how exactly do you give ozone IV???? 

barrelracr131 - 2014-11-19 1:16 PM  I'm guessing the blood method... Blood is drawn, exposed to ozone mix, and dropped back in



i don't see how one could IV a gas



unless they are talking about IV peroxide??? 



You are right- I have no experience with this method, and that is because it sounds potentially dangerous. I asked for an explanation on the first page and was ignored.

bris2125 - 2014-11-19 1:20 PM

Lmao, I have come to believe you are the Doctor of Quackery. I didn't realize that a DVM came with a MD. Lucky you.
For those that actually have experience with this, thank you for your input.

firewaterfuelsme - 2014-11-19 1:54 PM I have to respond with my experience since it has been stated that those against ozone therapy have never used it. I had a very sick 400# steer- pneumonia. A vet gave him iv medical grade ozone gas via iv. Within 10 minutes steer was dead! A very dear friend had hodgkins cancer. Friend wanted to try holistic therapy instead of traditional chemo. Friend underwent 6 months of ozone treatment which caused the cancer to increase exponentially. Doctors explained that while ozone may increase good cells and cell activity it also increases the bad cells and cell activity. I currently have a horse being treated for epm. Vet who endorses ozone has repeatedly asked to treat my horse free of charge just to show me that ozone therapy works. The vet treating my horse for epm has instucted me not to treat with ozone since ozone may stimulate the protazoa to increase production as well.

bris2125 - 2014-11-19 11:20 AM

Lmao, I have come to believe you are the Doctor of Quackery. I didn't realize that a DVM came with a MD. Lucky you.
For those that actually have experience with this, thank you for your input.

firewaterfuelsme - 2014-11-19 1:54 PM

I have to respond with my experience since it has been stated that those against ozone therapy have never used it. I had a very sick 400# steer- pneumonia. A vet gave him iv medical grade ozone gas via iv. Within 10 minutes steer was dead!

A very dear friend had hodgkins cancer. Friend wanted to try holistic therapy instead of traditional chemo. Friend underwent 6 months of ozone treatment which caused the cancer to increase exponentially. Doctors explained that while ozone may increase good cells and cell activity it also increases the bad cells and cell activity.

I currently have a horse being treated for epm. Vet who endorses ozone has repeatedly asked to treat my horse free of charge just to show me that ozone therapy works. The vet treating my horse for epm has instucted me not to treat with ozone since ozone may stimulate the protazoa to increase production as well.

rachellyn80 - 2014-11-20 1:07 PM Did no one else see #12.  it works on Equine Infectious Anemia??? 

bris2125 - 2014-11-19 12:52 PM

Again, I don't know. I wasn't there, nor do I know exactly how it works. This is the best info if have found that is short enough to post that is still detain in explaining the oxygen atoms and how to administer it.

Ozone and other oxygen therapies have been used for over 100 years around the world for human and animal healing. These therapies continue to gain popularity, as scientists learn about the health benefits of increased oxygen in the body. Currently, ozone therapy and hyperbaric treatments, which bring easily soluble oxygen to target tissues, are being proven effective for treating viruses, fungi and bacteria, and for general health improvement anytime there is inflammation and damaged tissue. In addition to medical uses, ozone is a great disinfectant used for livestock water tanks, cattle embryo transfer(tt), swimming pools, spas and the water treatment systems of over 2,000 municipalities around the world.

How it works

Ozone contains three oxygen atoms, which react in the tissue as it breaks down to ordinary oxygen (O2) and a reactive singlet oxygen molecule that can combine with chemicals and other molecules. Free from side effects, this is an extremely safe therapy that works in a number of ways by:

1. Decreasing inflammation. When you have inflammation, swelling, bruising, infection, cancer and trauma to the tissue, there are higher amounts of carbon dioxide within the tissue. This increase of carbon dioxide contributes to inflammation and pain. Increasing the amount of oxygen delivered to the tissue in the form of reactive ozone decreases inflammation, pain and swelling, and helps increase healing.

2. Activating the immune system. Ozone therapy has also been shown to activate the immune system by stimulating cytokine production. Cytokines are “messenger cells”, such as interferons and interleukins, which “set off a cascade reaction of positive changes throughout the immune system.”(t). Ozone also promotes the production of glutathione peroxidase, catalase, reductase and super-oxide dismutase, the enzymes forming the cell wall coating; thereby enhancing cellular immunity. 3. Inactivating bacteria, viruses, fungi, yeast and protozoa. Healthy cells are surrounded by an enzyme coating, which ozone does not penetrate, but bacteria and viruses have no such coatings. Ozone therapy disrupts the integrity of the bacterial cell envelope through oxidation of the phospholipids and lipoproteins (peroxidation). In viruses, this peroxidation disrupts the reproductive cycle and damages the viral capsid. In fungi, ozone inhibits cell growth. Consider chronic otitis, which often has multiple organisms as primary or secondary invaders; this explains the efficacy of ozone treatment.

Administration options

Since ozone helps with the healing of any problem, it can be added to any treatment protocol.

1. Percolate into saline fluids to be used as a flush (decreases inflammation and pain) to wounds, bladder, rectum, ear, nose, mouth; enema; IV or SQ fluids to be absorbed through the capillaries of the subcutaneous tissue.

2. Percolate through olive oil with or without essential oils for the skin.

3. As a gas via a catheter, internally, or by sealing a wounded area in a bag (old fluid bags work well). It will be absorbed through the caudal rectal vein.

4. Injected as a gas into joints with a prolotherapy injection (prolozone). Human study1 showed efficacy in pain relief for many conditions.

An added technique using ozone is Biophotonic Blood Therapy (BBT), in which blood is infused with ozone, exposed to ultraviolet light in a crystal cuvette, and then given back to the patient. Also called Ultraviolet Blood Irradiation, it has been used worldwide for over 50 years for an array of medical conditions. It may be more effective than mere ozone for stimulating cytokines and activating the mitochondria in each cell to strengthen an animal’s immune system.

Ozone preparation

Oxygen as a single molecule is highly unstable and exists for only microseconds in nature. However, when two oxygen atoms unite to share electrons, they form an oxygen molecule, referred to as O2. This molecule is very stable, and comprises the form of oxygen found in the atmosphere. To create ozone, pure surgical oxygen (ordinary air cannot be used as it has 20% nitrogen which would be converted to nitrous oxide and nitric oxide, both highly toxic) is flowed through a glass tube (do not use models with plastic tubing). A low voltage electrical spark is then applied through the outside of the tube. This briefly splits the paired oxygen atoms, most of which reform into pairs within microseconds. A small percentage of the individual oxygen atoms form triplets – ozone (O3). The ozone produced exists in a very active form for about 30 minutes before breaking down (dismutating) into two atoms of oxygen, which are very easily absorbed into the cells, by giving up one atom of singlet oxygen. Ozone will dismutate at a rate of 50% every 45 minutes in glass, and every 30 minutes in plastic. Therefore the ozone cannot be stored and used later.

Uses are many and varied

Any time there are infections or inflammation, tissue damage or abnormal cellular proliferation, ozone can be use to support treatments, conventional or holistic. A few examples are:

1. Skin – wounds, especially degloving ones and deep abrasions; hot spots; pyodermas; allergic dermatitis; abscesses

2. Pain relief

3. Head trauma, spinal cord inflammation–ozone and oxygen go through the blood/brain barrier so it is an excellent way to aid treatment of any neurological issue

4. Chronic and acute Lyme disease

5. Mouth–stomatitis, gingivitis, abscesses; ozone therapy is ADA-approved for dental abscesses

6. Cancer and autoimmune problems

7. Ears – chronic and acute otitis from bacteria or yeast; aural hematomas

8. Eyes – infections and allergic reactions

9. Upper respiratory ailments

10. Potentiates acupuncture, homeopathy and chiropractic treatments as it brings more needed oxygen to the body

11. GI tract – constipation, diarrhea, IBS (decreases inflammation)

12. Equine infectious anemia

Integrating ozone into your veterinary clinic protocols gives you a wonderful opportunity to use something very natural and sustainable that can reduce and possibly prevent the overuse of antibiotics and drugs. Technicians can administer ozone in most of its applications. As a holistic integrative veterinarian, I think it potentiates some of the other natural modalities I use, such as acupuncture, homeopathy, herbs and chiropractic. Antibiotics are also more effective with ozone as an adjunct. It is also a practice builder, since clients are searching for supportive ways to help their pets. With training, pet owners can get an ozone unit and administer it in a variety of ways themselves. Because ozone is antiviral, it should be a must for any animal shelter that deals with a lot of infectious viruses.
A veterinary certification course is now offered by the American Academy of Ozonotherapy AAOT (aaot.us).You can also contact veterinarians using ozone therapy for their own experiences and case reports at the AHVMA (ahvma.org).

Nevertooold - 2014-11-19 1:49 PM I love alternative therapies deemed quakery as they always seem to help me more the modern medicine.  

Three 4 Luck - 2014-11-19 2:17 PM


 Seriously.  I'm not prejudiced about evidence based or anecdotal, I just want it to work.  And I've seen some freaky chit work wonders as well as snake oil BS. 

I had someone the other day ask for a citation (or it didn't happen) after I said Monsanto had been sued for violating anti-trust laws with glyphosate production and pricing schemes.  I knew about it because I signed onto the class action lawsuit, but it was dismissed by a federal judge.  Citation my butt--it's a long fall off that high horse.

I struggle with science tho, truly I do, because OTOH you have people saying things like "my brother got hepatitis B after eating GMOs."  Say huh?  So I don't know if I'm hypocritical or discerning.  LOL

Three 4 Luck - 2014-11-19 2:17 PM


 Seriously.  I'm not prejudiced about evidence based or anecdotal, I just want it to work.  And I've seen some freaky chit work wonders as well as snake oil BS. 

I had someone the other day ask for a citation (or it didn't happen) after I said Monsanto had been sued for violating anti-trust laws with glyphosate production and pricing schemes.  I knew about it because I signed onto the class action lawsuit, but it was dismissed by a federal judge.  Citation my butt--it's a long fall off that high horse.

I struggle with science tho, truly I do, because OTOH you have people saying things like "my brother got hepatitis B after eating GMOs."  Say huh?  So I don't know if I'm hypocritical or discerning.  LOL

dhdqhllc - 2014-11-19 2:30 PM holy!!!! i don't want to get hepatitis.....damn farmers....

rachellyn80 - 2014-11-19 2:07 PM

Did no one else see #12.  it works on Equine Infectious Anemia??? 

barrelracr131 - 2014-11-19 2:38 PM http://issuu.com/redstonemediagroup/docs/ivc_v3i4_digital

barrelracr131 - 2014-11-19 2:38 PM http://issuu.com/redstonemediagroup/docs/ivc_v3i4_digital

barrelracr131 - 2014-11-19 2:39 PM This is her source for the above



Considering this is a magazine that is also promoting Horse Hair Analysis, I will just let this one sit here for a bit.

dhdqhllc - 2014-11-19 12:41 PM cytauxzoonsis.......that is an awesome word!!!! 

barrelracr131 - 2014-11-19 2:39 PM


This is her source for the above

Considering this is a magazine that is also promoting Horse Hair Analysis, I will just let this one sit here for a bit.

HotbearLVR - 2014-11-19 2:49 PM Well, there you have it,

dhdqhllc - 2014-11-19 1:32 PM


i don't want an opinion from a damn scientist that doesn't know shit!!!!!!!!!

 

rachellyn80 - 2014-11-19 3:43 PM Here is another site where it's posted:



http://www.ivcjournal.com/articles/ozone-therapy-in-the-veterinary-... 

SCORCHOLVR - 2014-11-19 3:34 PM


My friend is a genius Scientist! So, sit on it Potsie!

dhdqhllc - 2014-11-19 3:52 PM


imposter

rachellyn80 - 2014-11-19 3:51 PM

I thought that one might be easier to read. 

dhdqhllc - 2014-11-19 3:52 PM


imposter

HotbearLVR - 2014-11-19 8:46 AM


It love Jesus, but it saddens me to report that "Healthy Christian Living" is not a highly regarded, peer reviewed medical/scientific journal.
Another thing - just because some article says it has "scientific references" doesn't mean they are real references, or references from reputable publications.

As far as I know, Ozone has no legitimate place in the treatment of any illness or condition in humans or animals. In theory one can see where it might be attractive, just like "blood letting" for infections was attractive to practitioners in the 15th century, but there is no good evidence that it works for anything. There has been some debate over whether ozone might be beneficial with vertebral disc disease, but even that is hotly debated, as the evidence supporting it's use is weak, at best.

Bottom line: follow the money. If you can't do that, then just listen for quacking.