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So TLC is thinking about canceling the show.
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So TLC is thinking about canceling the show 19 kids and counting

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Reg. Oct 2014
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Ermehgawd.....

I LOVE that show, and I don't think I've EVER heard one judgmental thing on it. They might say x, y, or z is "not for them". Which is no different than me saying that having 19 kids is "not for me". Who cares. The PC police need to staaaaaaaahp.

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I love this show as well.
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Funny how the LGBTQ is all about freedom of expression and speech for themselves, but not for anyone who disagrees with their platform. 
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maybe they were done counting .. didnt want 20 
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You know what, **** the people that sign this petition. I'm so sick of good, wholesome families with traditional values, such as the Duggars, Robertsons, etc. being bashed and bullied by dumb a$$es that claim to support "freedom" and "equal rights". EVERYONE is entitled to their opinion. The Duggars have every right to believe in traditional marriage and all the other values they hold dear. I love them and their show! Do I agree with everything they believe? No, but I really respect them and children and adults alike are much better off watching their show than so many others.  
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cavyrunsbarrels - 2014-11-19 10:51 PM

You know what, **** the people that sign this petition. I'm so sick of good, wholesome families with traditional values, such as the Duggars, Robertsons, etc. being bashed and bullied by dumb a$$es that claim to support "freedom" and "equal rights". EVERYONE is entitled to their opinion. The Duggars have every right to believe in traditional marriage and all the other values they hold dear. I love them and their show! Do I agree with everything they believe? No, but I really respect them and children and adults alike are much better off watching their show than so many others.  

I agree with you 100% .Its sad when Christians and others get bashed for not being for the gays. Everyone has there opinions but not everyone should be pushed for ones opinion.
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Reg. Oct 2005
Posted 2014-11-19 11:54 PM
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Good!  They are part of a religious sect that is cult-like, imho. Girls/women have one role and one role only. J-chelle is a broodmare. I have always felt so sorry for the girls especially in this family. They are treated like built in babysitters and then are expected to be broodies themselves when they turn 18. No higher education for any of these poor kids. 
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I rarely watch TV and have never seen the show but I always wondered how in the HECK do they manage to feed & clothe that many kids? I can't even IMAGINE what their grocery bill must be!
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Reg. Jul 2013
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I thought it had to do with some of the Duggar kids who were complaining about having to do all of the babysitting of the younger ones and no friends. Also, what happens when the cameras are turned off.
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I assume they get donations for advertising their products and  money for episodes.. They have 19 kids and exploit that and get handouts as well.. the duggers go to disney and have 19 kids... give them tickets... etc.. Im not bashing them for I dont care but just saying thats probrably how... my guess is it isnt what its all made out to be.. I have seen the show.. and those teens are having to take on the babysitting responsibilitys and cant be kids .. yes its good to some degree but when they have a 13 yr old take all of the responsiblity for a 3 yr old or 5 yr old while he is growing up is wrong.. and the show i saw the teen even said thats what she does.. shes in  charge of one of them.. why is that ok? they didnt have the children the mom did but I have yet to see the mom or dad handle the kids THEY produced 100%.. responsiblity in chores and the family and home yes..but they didnt have the children and need to be children themselves.. I agree that the show was much better then the trash thats on tv now.. but i feel bad the kids couldnt be kids as well.. you can raise kids with faith values and morals by being a parent..

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Reg. Dec 2007
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kramerica - 2014-11-20 12:54 AM Good!  They are part of a religious sect that is cult-like, imho. Girls/women have one role and one role only. J-chelle is a broodmare. I have always felt so sorry for the girls especially in this family. They are treated like built in babysitters and then are expected to be broodies themselves when they turn 18. No higher education for any of these poor kids. 

I agree.  
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Reg. Mar 2011
Posted 2014-11-20 9:06 AM
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Murphy - 2014-11-20 7:58 AM

kramerica - 2014-11-20 12:54 AM Good!  They are part of a religious sect that is cult-like, imho. Girls/women have one role and one role only. J-chelle is a broodmare. I have always felt so sorry for the girls especially in this family. They are treated like built in babysitters and then are expected to be broodies themselves when they turn 18. No higher education for any of these poor kids. 

I agree.  

Ditto. The oppression is so sad.

In regards to the story, I'm honestly surprised it took this long for it to become a big deal. How in the world can anyone watch this show and actually be surprised that they don't agree with homosexuality?? They are super religious and traditional, so it's no stretch to assume that they think being gay is a big no-no.
I don't think they are deserving of their show being cancelled because of this. It's an opinion they have, and I'm so sick of people being persecuted because they have their own opinions and beliefs that may make some people mad. If they make your skin crawl and you can't stand them, don't watch the show!!
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Reg. Jul 2008
Posted 2014-11-20 9:15 AM
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 so No i dont think thats a reason for canceling it.. clearly I dont think the kids should have to be responsible for the other children.. all the time.. but its their beliefs.. i dont have to agree with them though.. but I didnt know thats why they were cancelling it.. i disagree about that reasoning 100%.. they can say or believe how they feel.. in my opinion..
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Reg. Sep 2011
Posted 2014-11-20 9:29 AM
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Horrible to say and I might be telling on myself but to me these ppl are like watching wild animals in captivity or seeing a unicorn. LOL

They do inspire me to be a better person though. I think wow look at their faith and values and it inspires me to do better.

I could never make it as a Dugger girl though...they'd kick me out for front hugging and french kissing! hahaha

Also, them Dugger girls are so pretty!

TLC needs to grow a pair and keep them cause I'd be devastated not to see how Jessa's wedding goes!
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Reg. May 2012
Posted 2014-11-20 9:35 AM
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They also get to choose weather or not they continue there education once they turn 18. They do have chooses they have talked about it on the show. They talked about if there kids wanted to join the military they would be more than happy to support them.
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Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2014-11-20 9:40 AM
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I don't watch the show and find their beliefs disturbing. Should they be cancelled for their beliefs after this many years? Nope. They have every right to believe what they do. I am just not a fan of theirs.
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Reg. Feb 2008
Posted 2014-11-20 9:41 AM
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SC Wrangler - 2014-11-19 6:55 PM Funny how the LGBTQ is all about freedom of expression and speech for themselves, but not for anyone who disagrees with their platform. 

EXACTLY! Now we are considered bigots, if we believe in traditional marriage? This is what we knew was coming. But, of course, it was just so they could "be happy" right? NO, Satan isn't  happy till he has destroyed God's version of family in society. But I have news for the non-believers, God wins. And the only real marriage is man/woman. Anything else is a farce and a sham. And it isn't "unloving" to say that. Those who deny the truth will be thrust into eternal damnation, so, if anything, those spreading the lies of "gay marriage" are the ones that are hurting the LBGT community. 
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Reg. Aug 2011
Posted 2014-11-20 9:43 AM
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SC Wrangler - 2014-11-19 6:55 PM

Funny how the LGBTQ is all about freedom of expression and speech for themselves, but not for anyone who disagrees with their platform. 

SC, I respect your opinions completely. I lurk quite a bit, but don't post that much. That's a blanket statement though. I'm a part of that "community", but I am just as much for freedom of expression for anyone who disagrees with me as someone who agrees with me. Just wanted to throw that out there...
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Reg. Mar 2007
Posted 2014-11-20 9:47 AM
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I used to babysit the first few Duggar kiddos way back when they lived in a tiny little house on the car lot that Mr. Duggar managed. They are humble, kind, genuine people with or without cameras.  
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SC Wrangler - 2014-11-19 6:55 PM Funny how the LGBTQ is all about freedom of expression and speech for themselves, but not for anyone who disagrees with their platform. 
EXACTLY! Now we are considered bigots, if we believe in traditional marriage? This is what we knew was coming. But, of course, it was just so they could "be happy" right? NO, Satan isn't  happy till he has destroyed God's version of family in society. But I have news for the non-believers, God wins. And the only real marriage is man/woman. Anything else is a farce and a sham. And it isn't "unloving" to say that. Those who deny the truth will be thrust into eternal damnation, so, if anything, those spreading the lies of "gay marriage" are the ones that are hurting the LBGT community. 

Wow.  
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SC Wrangler - 2014-11-19 6:55 PM Funny how the LGBTQ is all about freedom of expression and speech for themselves, but not for anyone who disagrees with their platform. 
EXACTLY! Now we are considered bigots, if we believe in traditional marriage? This is what we knew was coming. But, of course, it was just so they could "be happy" right? NO, Satan isn't  happy till he has destroyed God's version of family in society. But I have news for the non-believers, God wins. And the only real marriage is man/woman. Anything else is a farce and a sham. And it isn't "unloving" to say that. Those who deny the truth will be thrust into eternal damnation, so, if anything, those spreading the lies of "gay marriage" are the ones that are hurting the LBGT community. 

Wow.  

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SC Wrangler - 2014-11-19 6:55 PM Funny how the LGBTQ is all about freedom of expression and speech for themselves, but not for anyone who disagrees with their platform. 
EXACTLY! Now we are considered bigots, if we believe in traditional marriage? This is what we knew was coming. But, of course, it was just so they could "be happy" right? NO, Satan isn't  happy till he has destroyed God's version of family in society. But I have news for the non-believers, God wins. And the only real marriage is man/woman. Anything else is a farce and a sham. And it isn't "unloving" to say that. Those who deny the truth will be thrust into eternal damnation, so, if anything, those spreading the lies of "gay marriage" are the ones that are hurting the LBGT community. 

yikes  
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SC Wrangler - 2014-11-19 6:55 PM Funny how the LGBTQ is all about freedom of expression and speech for themselves, but not for anyone who disagrees with their platform. 
EXACTLY! Now we are considered bigots, if we believe in traditional marriage? This is what we knew was coming. But, of course, it was just so they could "be happy" right? NO, Satan isn't  happy till he has destroyed God's version of family in society. But I have news for the non-believers, God wins. And the only real marriage is man/woman. Anything else is a farce and a sham. And it isn't "unloving" to say that. Those who deny the truth will be thrust into eternal damnation, so, if anything, those spreading the lies of "gay marriage" are the ones that are hurting the LBGT community. 

Wow.  

Okay now I try to stay out of discussions like this because it really doesn't go anywhere BUT I am a firm believer in the fact that what you want to do behind close doors, as long as no one is getting hurt, is none of my business. It doesn't effect me so why should I care?! I could really care less if you are black, white, yellow, purple, tall, short, fat, skinny, into boy, into girls, into nothing...DONT CARE. I don't know why people stress out over stuff that has nothing to do with them. ...Even remotely....its their decision on who they want to sleep with, not yours and your derogatory comments get you nowhere.

editied to say...I guess I am going to be "thrust into eternal damnation" oops....

Edited by MC1993 2014-11-20 10:13 AM
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The only bit I have to add to this is in regards to how they afford their family / belongings. Do research, don't assume. It's not hard to find out.

Same as to anyone going on to higher education. Don't assume, do research.

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SC Wrangler - 2014-11-19 6:55 PM Funny how the LGBTQ is all about freedom of expression and speech for themselves, but not for anyone who disagrees with their platform. 
EXACTLY! Now we are considered bigots, if we believe in traditional marriage? This is what we knew was coming. But, of course, it was just so they could "be happy" right? NO, Satan isn't  happy till he has destroyed God's version of family in society. But I have news for the non-believers, God wins. And the only real marriage is man/woman. Anything else is a farce and a sham. And it isn't "unloving" to say that. Those who deny the truth will be thrust into eternal damnation, so, if anything, those spreading the lies of "gay marriage" are the ones that are hurting the LBGT community. 
Wow.  
Okay now I try to stay out of discussions like this because it really doesn't go anywhere BUT I am a firm believer in the fact that what you want to do behind close doors, as long as no one is getting hurt, is none of my business. It doesn't effect me so why should I care?! I could really care less if you are black, white, yellow, purple, tall, short, fat, skinny, into boy, into girls, into nothing...DONT CARE. I don't know why people stress out over stuff that has nothing to do with them. ...Even remotely....its their decision on who they want to sleep with, not yours and your derogatory comments get you nowhere. editied to say...I guess I am going to be "thrust into eternal damnation" oops....

You see, you miss the point, once again. The whole point is, "supposedly" the LBGT community has tried to turned traditional marriage into a dirty word. The Duggar shows a loving, kind traditional Godly family who hurts no one. But the "kind, loving" LBGT community is "offended" and wants it off the air. WHY? 
I also could care less if someone is "black, white,yellow,purple,tall,short, fat,skinny,into boys,into girls,into nothing" either. As long as they aren't messing with MY RIGHTS to believe what I wish to believe. But obviously the LBGT does care and are the ones raising the stink! They are the ones trying to get Duck Dynasty and the Duggars off the air because they expressed views different than their own. 
Why won't they ( or you all who are jumping down my throat for expressing what I believe to be true, that God will cast non-believers into eternal damnation)  respect those beliefs?? I whole heartedly believe what the Bible and the Church teaches on this subject. You all can chose to disbelieve and come up with your version of the truth. That is fine. But this is showing the true colors of the LBGT movement and it's hypocrisy. They aren't concern with equal protection under the law, but special priviledges, and to change the normal of what marriage really is. Sorry, but man/woman marriage IS the standard set by GOD Himself. There is ZERO mention of "gay marriage" in any scripture, because it doesn't exist. They can have their civil unions all they want, I could care less, but "redefining" marriage has gone too far. 
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SpottedT - 2014-11-20 11:03 AM The only bit I have to add to this is in regards to how they afford their family / belongings. Do research, don't assume. It's not hard to find out. Same as to anyone going on to higher education. Don't assume, do research.
I don't want to know THAT bad! Just wondered. I could really care less about them or what they do or who they do or how they do it! I kinda thought it might have been covered on the show but since I don't watch it, I didn't know that.  

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Reg. Apr 2014
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No offense to anyone, but this whole conversation just makes me laugh.
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Reg. Dec 2007
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SC Wrangler - 2014-11-19 6:55 PM Funny how the LGBTQ is all about freedom of expression and speech for themselves, but not for anyone who disagrees with their platform. 
EXACTLY! Now we are considered bigots, if we believe in traditional marriage? This is what we knew was coming. But, of course, it was just so they could "be happy" right? NO, Satan isn't  happy till he has destroyed God's version of family in society. But I have news for the non-believers, God wins. And the only real marriage is man/woman. Anything else is a farce and a sham. And it isn't "unloving" to say that. Those who deny the truth will be thrust into eternal damnation, so, if anything, those spreading the lies of "gay marriage" are the ones that are hurting the LBGT community. 
Wow.  
Okay now I try to stay out of discussions like this because it really doesn't go anywhere BUT I am a firm believer in the fact that what you want to do behind close doors, as long as no one is getting hurt, is none of my business. It doesn't effect me so why should I care?! I could really care less if you are black, white, yellow, purple, tall, short, fat, skinny, into boy, into girls, into nothing...DONT CARE. I don't know why people stress out over stuff that has nothing to do with them. ...Even remotely....its their decision on who they want to sleep with, not yours and your derogatory comments get you nowhere. editied to say...I guess I am going to be "thrust into eternal damnation" oops....
You see, you miss the point, once again. The whole point is, "supposedly" the LBGT community has tried to turned traditional marriage into a dirty word. The Duggar shows a loving, kind traditional Godly family who hurts no one. But the "kind, loving" LBGT community is "offended" and wants it off the air. WHY? 

I also could care less if someone is "black, white,yellow,purple,tall,short, fat,skinny,into boys,into girls,into nothing" either. As long as they aren't messing with MY RIGHTS to believe what I wish to believe. But obviously the LBGT does care and are the ones raising the stink! They are the ones trying to get Duck Dynasty and the Duggars off the air because they expressed views different than their own. 

Why won't they ( or you all who are jumping down my throat for expressing what I believe to be true, that God will cast non-believers into eternal damnation)  respect those beliefs?? I whole heartedly believe what the Bible and the Church teaches on this subject. You all can chose to disbelieve and come up with your version of the truth. That is fine. But this is showing the true colors of the LBGT movement and it's hypocrisy. They aren't concern with equal protection under the law, but special priviledges, and to change the normal of what marriage really is. Sorry, but man/woman marriage IS the standard set by GOD Himself. There is ZERO mention of "gay marriage" in any scripture, because it doesn't exist. They can have their civil unions all they want, I could care less, but "redefining" marriage has gone too far. 

I like how you basically say if someone doesn't believe what you believe to be true, then it's false. But I have a feeling this is a dead end arguement with you, so I'm stopping at this post.

Also - not everyone in the LBGT community thinks that these shows should be banned. I work with quite a few people who are gay and could care less what everyone else believes. They just go about their lives. Like the rest of us, we have a remote control and we can use it. 
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I believe that the Gay community has people who believe in God.  For you to say they are non believers is wrong and judgemental.  Judge not - least ye be judged.   
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never seen the show, but 19 kids?!?!?! Holy cow! 
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3canstorun - 2014-11-20 12:51 PM I believe that the Gay community has people who believe in God.  For you to say they are non believers is wrong and judgemental.  Judge not - least ye be judged.   

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I didn't say any such thing. But, obviously, if Ithink the Biblical principles about marriage were true, well, it kind of goes without saying, I would think other beliefs were false. DUH! But your not interested in the truth, anyways. It's all about relativism, right? Once again, missing the point. WHY is it ok for the LGBT movement to try and cancel a show that portrays a wholesome, loving,kind generous, harmless family like the Duggars? 
Why is it now offensive that a show about traditional families exist? 
Why is it ok for them to have double standards. THAT is the point. 
Ask yourself that question. 
I also didn't say that everyone of them thinks that way. You are making assumptions. 
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BLM - 2014-11-20 3:12 PM I didn't say any such thing. But, obviously, if Ithink the Biblical principles about marriage were true, well, it kind of goes without saying, I would think other beliefs were false. DUH! But your not interested in the truth, anyways. It's all about relativism, right? Once again, missing the point. WHY is it ok for the LGBT movement to try and cancel a show that portrays a wholesome, loving,kind generous, harmless family like the Duggars? 

Why is it now offensive that a show about traditional families exist? 

Why is it ok for them to have double standards. THAT is the point. 

Ask yourself that question. 

I also didn't say that everyone of them thinks that way. You are making assumptions. 

To answer your question - it is not okay for the LGBT movement to try and get a show cancelled because they don't share the same beliefs on marriage with the Duggars.   

It should not be offensive for a show that has traditional family values to be on TV.  Just like a non-traditional show, violence etc., should be cancelled.   We all have the ability to change the channel and not support the advertisers of these shows. 

I don't understand the double standard part.
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I don't watch the show so I don't know if my values are aligned with theirs or not. But what I do know is if I don't like someone or what they are about or their show is about - I just don't watch it! I wouldn't petition to get it off. I just plain don't tune it. I have that power - imagine that, LOL! 
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BLM - 2014-11-20 3:12 PM I didn't say any such thing. But, obviously, if Ithink the Biblical principles about marriage were true, well, it kind of goes without saying, I would think other beliefs were false. DUH! But your not interested in the truth, anyways. It's all about relativism, right? Once again, missing the point. WHY is it ok for the LGBT movement to try and cancel a show that portrays a wholesome, loving,kind generous, harmless family like the Duggars? 

Why is it now offensive that a show about traditional families exist? 

Why is it ok for them to have double standards. THAT is the point. 

Ask yourself that question. 

I also didn't say that everyone of them thinks that way. You are making assumptions. 
To answer your question - it is not okay for the LGBT movement to try and get a show cancelled because they don't share the same beliefs on marriage with the Duggars.   



It should not be offensive for a show that has traditional family values to be on TV.  Just like a non-traditional show, violence etc., should be cancelled.   We all have the ability to change the channel and not support the advertisers of these shows. 



I don't understand the double standard part.

That is all I was trying to say. And I know there are many wonderful gay people and I am not condemning anyone. I am sure there are many who believe it is wrong to have a double standard, but the squeaky wheel gets the grease. If the LBGT community wants to be respected, they need to quit acting so militant and crazy. 
It is like this. The Westboro baptist weirdos are running arouond making Christians look like idiots. Every Christian leader that I know of came out publically against the actions of that crazy group. NO well meaning Christian would ever stand by and allow that bunch of wackos represent their faith. 
It should be the same for the LGBT community to stand up to the militants who give them a bad name.

 
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SC Wrangler - 2014-11-19 6:55 PM Funny how the LGBTQ is all about freedom of expression and speech for themselves, but not for anyone who disagrees with their platform. 
EXACTLY! Now we are considered bigots, if we believe in traditional marriage? This is what we knew was coming. But, of course, it was just so they could "be happy" right? NO, Satan isn't  happy till he has destroyed God's version of family in society. But I have news for the non-believers, God wins. And the only real marriage is man/woman. Anything else is a farce and a sham. And it isn't "unloving" to say that. Those who deny the truth will be thrust into eternal damnation, so, if anything, those spreading the lies of "gay marriage" are the ones that are hurting the LBGT community. 
Wow.  
Okay now I try to stay out of discussions like this because it really doesn't go anywhere BUT I am a firm believer in the fact that what you want to do behind close doors, as long as no one is getting hurt, is none of my business. It doesn't effect me so why should I care?! I could really care less if you are black, white, yellow, purple, tall, short, fat, skinny, into boy, into girls, into nothing...DONT CARE. I don't know why people stress out over stuff that has nothing to do with them. ...Even remotely....its their decision on who they want to sleep with, not yours and your derogatory comments get you nowhere. editied to say...I guess I am going to be "thrust into eternal damnation" oops....
You see, you miss the point, once again. The whole point is, "supposedly" the LBGT community has tried to turned traditional marriage into a dirty word. The Duggar shows a loving, kind traditional Godly family who hurts no one. But the "kind, loving" LBGT community is "offended" and wants it off the air. WHY? 

I also could care less if someone is "black, white,yellow,purple,tall,short, fat,skinny,into boys,into girls,into nothing" either. As long as they aren't messing with MY RIGHTS to believe what I wish to believe. But obviously the LBGT does care and are the ones raising the stink! They are the ones trying to get Duck Dynasty and the Duggars off the air because they expressed views different than their own. 

Why won't they ( or you all who are jumping down my throat for expressing what I believe to be true, that God will cast non-believers into eternal damnation)  respect those beliefs?? I whole heartedly believe what the Bible and the Church teaches on this subject. You all can chose to disbelieve and come up with your version of the truth. That is fine. But this is showing the true colors of the LBGT movement and it's hypocrisy. They aren't concern with equal protection under the law, but special priviledges, and to change the normal of what marriage really is. Sorry, but man/woman marriage IS the standard set by GOD Himself. There is ZERO mention of "gay marriage" in any scripture, because it doesn't exist. They can have their civil unions all they want, I could care less, but "redefining" marriage has gone too far. 
I like how you basically say if someone doesn't believe what you believe to be true, then it's false. But I have a feeling this is a dead end arguement with you, so I'm stopping at this post.



Also - not everyone in the LBGT community thinks that these shows should be banned. I work with quite a few people who are gay and could care less what everyone else believes. They just go about their lives. Like the rest of us, we have a remote control and we can use it. 

 I didn't say any such thing. But, obviously, if Ithink the Biblical principles about marriage were true, well, it kind of goes without saying, I would think other beliefs were false. DUH! But your not interested in the truth, anyways. It's all about relativism, right? Once again, missing the point. WHY is it ok for the LGBT movement to try and cancel a show that portrays a wholesome, loving,kind generous, harmless family like the Duggars? 
Why is it now offensive that a show about traditional families exist? 
Why is it ok for them to have double standards. THAT is the point. 
Ask yourself that question. 
I also didn't say that everyone of them thinks that way. You are making assumptions. 
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SC Wrangler - 2014-11-19 6:55 PM Funny how the LGBTQ is all about freedom of expression and speech for themselves, but not for anyone who disagrees with their platform. 
SC, I respect your opinions completely. I lurk quite a bit, but don't post that much. That's a blanket statement though. I'm a part of that "community", but I am just as much for freedom of expression for anyone who disagrees with me as someone who agrees with me. Just wanted to throw that out there...

I am a very open and socially liberal individual.  I have absolutely no issues with the LGBTQ community or their lifestyle.   Additionally I have no issue with those that believe only in traditional marriage.  They are each entitled to their opinions and their lifestyle. I really don't understand the inability to live and let live.   
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SC Wrangler - 2014-11-19 6:55 PM Funny how the LGBTQ is all about freedom of expression and speech for themselves, but not for anyone who disagrees with their platform. 
SC, I respect your opinions completely. I lurk quite a bit, but don't post that much. That's a blanket statement though. I'm a part of that "community", but I am just as much for freedom of expression for anyone who disagrees with me as someone who agrees with me. Just wanted to throw that out there...

I am a very open and socially liberal individual.  I have absolutely no issues with the LGBTQ community or their lifestyle.   Additionally I have no issue with those that believe only in traditional marriage.  They are each entitled to their opinions and their lifestyle. I really don't understand the inability to live and let live.   

I agree 100%, live and let live. I don't force my opinions or lifestyle on anyone. Guess it's just a sore spot when I'm sometimes lumped in the same category as someone trying to shove their opinions down someone else's throat.
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I saw this post on FB yesterday. Actually MANY of the responds were from gays or lesbians and they liked the show or supported that they had a right to their beliefs. There were some very well thought out responds.

I personally would boycott TLC for canceling "19 Kids..." if they gave into this petition. My kids and I watch the show EVERY Tuesday and love it. It has opened up several opportunities for me to talk to my kids about modesty, manners, respecting the of the opposite sex, good morals.... My daughter even wants to read the book the oldest daughters put out this summer. Thank-you God, that my daughter respects those girls and not someone like Kim K.

Here is what upsets me, back many years ago, NOBODY thought anything of large families and the older kids helped to take care of the younger ones. They worked hard, most of the time lived off little and went to church on Sundays. Mom tended to the home and dad worked. This was not sexist, that was life. I can almost guarantee, it too that those children were forced to grow-up much faster and work MUCH harder then any of the Dugger children will ever know or experience.

I have watched the show for YEARS and it appears all of those kids are well adjusted and happy. I only wish I could take my kids on the trips like the Duggers have gone on over time. They have had some GREAT life experiences. I see nothing wrong with traditional roles and the older kids helping with the younger ones. I don't understand why that upsets so many people. They are not marring their daughters off in their early teens, they don't beat their kids and they don't keep their children from experiencing life (all the older daughters/sons are learning a trade outside of the home and they do things separately from the younger children).

I BELIEVE in GOD and the TEACHINGS OF THE BIBLE! and so do the Duggers. Of all the episodes I have watched, I have never heard the Duggers bash other's life style. Not even close but yes it is clear they believe in the Bible and like it or not, the Bible is clear on what is and isn't a sin. Personally as a Christian, I don't care what you do in the privacy of your own home but I do get tired of SOME crying how "we can have our lifestyle and have our voices" but "you CAN'T have yours and keep your opinions to yourself." It is such a double standard these days and that is what I get so tired of and that double standard covers a WIDE topic of social issues.

Uncountable men and women have died DEFENDING OUR FREEDOMS, it is just a shame that some close minded people are trying to take those freedoms away everyday. It boils down to this, if you don't like what the Duggers stand for then turn the channel and don't read their articles. I do it to MANY other TV shows everyday. Everyone has the freedom to choose.
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Rolling J - 2014-11-20 9:03 PM I saw this post on FB yesterday. Actually MANY of the responds were from gays or lesbians and they liked the show or supported that they had a right to their beliefs. There were some very well thought out responds. I personally would boycott TLC for canceling "19 Kids..." if they gave into this petition. My kids and I watch the show EVERY Tuesday and love it. It has opened up several opportunities for me to talk to my kids about modesty, manners, respecting the of the opposite sex, good morals.... My daughter even wants to read the book the oldest daughters put out this summer. Thank-you God, that my daughter respects those girls and not someone like Kim K. Here is what upsets me, back many years ago, NOBODY thought anything of large families and the older kids helped to take care of the younger ones. They worked hard, most of the time lived off little and went to church on Sundays. Mom tended to the home and dad worked. This was not sexist, that was life. I can almost guarantee, it too that those children were forced to grow-up much faster and work MUCH harder then any of the Dugger children will ever know or experience. I have watched the show for YEARS and it appears all of those kids are well adjusted and happy. I only wish I could take my kids on the trips like the Duggers have gone on over time. They have had some GREAT life experiences. I see nothing wrong with traditional roles and the older kids helping with the younger ones. I don't understand why that upsets so many people. They are not marring their daughters off in their early teens, they don't beat their kids and they don't keep their children from experiencing life (all the older daughters/sons are learning a trade outside of the home and they do things separately from the younger children). I BELIEVE in GOD and the TEACHINGS OF THE BIBLE! and so do the Duggers. Of all the episodes I have watched, I have never heard the Duggers bash other's life style. Not even close but yes it is clear they believe in the Bible and like it or not, the Bible is clear on what is and isn't a sin. Personally as a Christian, I don't care what you do in the privacy of your own home but I do get tired of SOME crying how "we can have our lifestyle and have our voices" but "you CAN'T have yours and keep your opinions to yourself." It is such a double standard these days and that is what I get so tired of and that double standard covers a WIDE topic of social issues. Uncountable men and women have died DEFENDING OUR FREEDOMS, it is just a shame that some close minded people are trying to take those freedoms away everyday. It boils down to this, if you don't like what the Duggers stand for then turn the channel and don't read their articles. I do it to MANY other TV shows everyday. Everyone has the freedom to choose.

 
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Good!  They are part of a religious sect that is cult-like, imho. Girls/women have one role and one role only. J-chelle is a broodmare. I have always felt so sorry for the girls especially in this family. They are treated like built in babysitters and then are expected to be broodies themselves when they turn 18. No higher education for any of these poor kids. 

Have you even watched the show or read anything about the Duggers? Jill was married at the age of 23 and Jessa at the age of 22. And gasp, Jenna, their oldest daughter, is 24 and NOT MARRIED. Hardly, think they are shoving them out the door "to be broodies when they turn 18." Jill was/is a successful mid-wife and by her own accounts loves her job very much. I also remember the episode where a couple of the girls were training to be EMT's with the local fire department, plus some of the older girls are also successful authors. And as far as Jill and Derek having a baby right away, they openly talk about how THEY CHOOSE not to use birth control and they view children as a blessing.

Why if a woman chooses to have kids and be a stay at home mother, make them a "broodmare" or a "religious sect that is cult-like?" Who cares if Michelle chooses to have 19 kids, her body and her life. Why is loving children a bad thing? Meanwhile women pop out NUMEROUS kids everyday to several different fathers and keep collecting the welfare checks. Does that make them "cult like?" But it is not OK for a stable, loving, self supporting family to have as many kids as they choose?

Also, since when is women having traditional roles such a bad thing? I personally think the most awarding but hardest job in the world is being a mother. Not everyone chooses to have kids and that is the right thing for them, just as it is the right thing for others to have a many as they choose. For me personally, when I was younger, my mind set was "I will never be a stay at home mother." Now in my 40's, I would give my right arm to be a "traditional family." I realize the need and importance of the mother taking care of the home but two kids is all I can handle. However, our neighbor up the road has 12 and loves everyone of them very much. They own successful gyms, are self supported and Christians! Dang these "cult" families are everywhere

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kramerica - 2014-11-19 11:54 PM Good!  They are part of a religious sect that is cult-like, imho. Girls/women have one role and one role only. J-chelle is a broodmare. I have always felt so sorry for the girls especially in this family. They are treated like built in babysitters and then are expected to be broodies themselves when they turn 18. No higher education for any of these poor kids. 
Have you even watched the show or read anything about the Duggers? Jill was married at the age of 23 and Jessa at the age of 22. And gasp, Jenna, their oldest daughter, is 24 and NOT MARRIED. Hardly, think they are shoving them out the door "to be broodies when they turn 18." Jill was/is a successful mid-wife and by her own accounts loves her job very much. I also remember the episode where a couple of the girls were training to be EMT's with the local fire department, plus some of the older girls are also successful authors. And as far as Jill and Derek having a baby right away, they openly talk about how THEY CHOOSE not to use birth control and they view children as a blessing. Why if a woman chooses to have kids and be a stay at home mother, make them a "broodmare" or a "religious sect that is cult-like?" Who cares if Michelle chooses to have 19 kids, her body and her life. Why is loving children a bad thing? Meanwhile women pop out NUMEROUS kids everyday to several different fathers and keep collecting the welfare checks. Does that make them "cult like?" But it is not OK for a stable, loving, self supporting family to have as many kids as they choose? Since when is women having traditional roles such a bad thing? I personally think the most awarding but hardest job in the world is being a mother. Not everyone chooses to have kids and that is the right thing for them, just as it is the right thing for others to have a many as they choose. For me personally, when I was younger, my mind set was "I will never be a stay at home mother." Now in my 40's, I would give my right arm to be a "traditional family." I realize the need and importance of the mother taking care of the home but two kids is all I can handle. However, our neighbor up the road has 12 and loves everyone of them very much and they are not in a cult.

I agree with you rolling J..

and really dont watch it .. have once or twice .. they seem really nice faithful to god people.. sweet as well.. the only thing I disagree on is having 19 kids and making a sibling be responsible for one or 2. i dont agree with that.. baby sitting and helping yes.. but being a "parent" no.. brushing teeeth, jammies, school, getting it dressed etc.. its not their child its their parents and some to me is good but not all the time.. but i really dont think to much about any of it. lol their life their kids..better then them all running wild..
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Some of the children have gone to college or taken college classes. They are raising their kids the way my parents were raised. My dad was from a large family and they had to be responsible to watch their younger siblings. They are taught to be self sufficient and respectful, nothing cult like about that. The rules of courtship are made by each child. It was stated each time that the young adults chooses (not the parents) what limits they will set for their courtship and what to save for marriage. If only more parents could parent like the Duggars and instill the values of morality and being 1 of a family, not just me me me.
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Some of the children have gone to college or taken college classes. They are raising their kids the way my parents were raised. My dad was from a large family and they had to be responsible to watch their younger siblings. They are taught to be self sufficient and respectful, nothing cult like about that. The rules of courtship are made by each child. It was stated each time that the young adults chooses (not the parents) what limits they will set for their courtship and what to save for marriage. If only more parents could parent like the Duggars and instill the values of morality and being 1 of a family, not just me me me.

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kramerica - 2014-11-19 11:54 PM Good!  They are part of a religious sect that is cult-like, imho. Girls/women have one role and one role only. J-chelle is a broodmare. I have always felt so sorry for the girls especially in this family. They are treated like built in babysitters and then are expected to be broodies themselves when they turn 18. No higher education for any of these poor kids. 
Have you even watched the show or read anything about the Duggers? Jill was married at the age of 23 and Jessa at the age of 22. And gasp, Jenna, their oldest daughter, is 24 and NOT MARRIED. Hardly, think they are shoving them out the door "to be broodies when they turn 18." Jill was/is a successful mid-wife and by her own accounts loves her job very much. I also remember the episode where a couple of the girls were training to be EMT's with the local fire department, plus some of the older girls are also successful authors. And as far as Jill and Derek having a baby right away, they openly talk about how THEY CHOOSE not to use birth control and they view children as a blessing. Why if a woman chooses to have kids and be a stay at home mother, make them a "broodmare" or a "religious sect that is cult-like?" Who cares if Michelle chooses to have 19 kids, her body and her life. Why is loving children a bad thing? Meanwhile women pop out NUMEROUS kids everyday to several different fathers and keep collecting the welfare checks. Does that make them "cult like?" But it is not OK for a stable, loving, self supporting family to have as many kids as they choose? Also, since when is women having traditional roles such a bad thing? I personally think the most awarding but hardest job in the world is being a mother. Not everyone chooses to have kids and that is the right thing for them, just as it is the right thing for others to have a many as they choose. For me personally, when I was younger, my mind set was "I will never be a stay at home mother." Now in my 40's, I would give my right arm to be a "traditional family." I realize the need and importance of the mother taking care of the home but two kids is all I can handle. However, our neighbor up the road has 12 and loves everyone of them very much. They own successful gyms, are self supported and Christians! Dang these "cult" families are everywhere

 
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memory - 2014-11-20 11:22 PM Some of the children have gone to college or taken college classes. They are raising their kids the way my parents were raised. My dad was from a large family and they had to be responsible to watch their younger siblings. They are taught to be self sufficient and respectful, nothing cult like about that. The rules of courtship are made by each child. It was stated each time that the young adults chooses (not the parents) what limits they will set for their courtship and what to save for marriage. If only more parents could parent like the Duggars and instill the values of morality and being 1 of a family, not just me me me.

 
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I don't watch the show so could careless if it's cancelled and I don't particularly mind the Duggars but I do think it's irresponsible to have that many kids when the population is rising to 9 billion..... think of their impact with that many kids. grandkids etc. That being said, it is also irresponsible to have even ONE kid and not take care of it. I just think you replace yourself and that's all thats necessary in todays overpopulated world.
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Many heterosexual marriages can't keep it between one man and one woman. Somehow the commandment to not commit adultery is not a big deal. But it is still a commandment.

^^^this exatly, it's funny how with religion... we pick which commands/verses we like and ignore others or rate them according to how severe we "think" they are.... I honestly don't know but God does so I guess he can judge. many things that are SAID in the bible are not followed today and no one cares less.
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DLV - 2014-11-21 3:07 PM

rockette - 2014-11-20 12:48 PM

Many heterosexual marriages can't keep it between one man and one woman. Somehow the commandment to not commit adultery is not a big deal. But it is still a commandment.

^^^this exatly, it's funny how with religion... we pick which commands/verses we like and ignore others or rate them according to how severe we "think" they are.... I honestly don't know but God does so I guess he can judge. many things that are SAID in the bible are not followed today and no one cares less.

I think this is an unfair blanket statement. There are many, many, many (you get the idea) Christians that still see adultery as a sin. Is it any bigger or more punishable... then a "little white lie" or "be disrespectful to your parents?" Certainly not, a sin is a sin and God don't list them in numerical order from greatest to least. Do you really think every gay/lesbian couple is in a perfect, non-adultery relationship? I hardly think so. So to expect every heterosexual relationship should be perfect, is outrageous.

In my personal life, I am a youth group leader, a Sunday School teacher, I delivered the Thanksgiving message last night at our church.... but I STRUGGLE EVERYDAY with not judging others. The Bible tells me over and over again not to "judge others" but I find myself saying negative "judgmental" comments. I pray about this often, I know it is a sin but I continue to do it. However, I know this is something I need to better about myself and have shown much improvement. We are ALL SINNERS! I am and anyone reading this is and we all sin in different ways and sometimes several times a day. So just because a person does an action, it does not mean that they don't understand that it is a sin but, hopefully in the long run, they realize they need to work extra hard in bettering that area of their lives, so that they can TRUELY repent from that sin.

One of my favorite sayings ever is "Hate the sin but love the sinner!"
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Rolling J - 2014-11-20 10:12 PM
kramerica - 2014-11-19 11:54 PM Good!  They are part of a religious sect that is cult-like, imho. Girls/women have one role and one role only. J-chelle is a broodmare. I have always felt so sorry for the girls especially in this family. They are treated like built in babysitters and then are expected to be broodies themselves when they turn 18. No higher education for any of these poor kids. 
Have you even watched the show or read anything about the Duggers? Jill was married at the age of 23 and Jessa at the age of 22. And gasp, Jenna, their oldest daughter, is 24 and NOT MARRIED. Hardly, think they are shoving them out the door "to be broodies when they turn 18." Jill was/is a successful mid-wife and by her own accounts loves her job very much. I also remember the episode where a couple of the girls were training to be EMT's with the local fire department, plus some of the older girls are also successful authors. And as far as Jill and Derek having a baby right away, they openly talk about how THEY CHOOSE not to use birth control and they view children as a blessing. Why if a woman chooses to have kids and be a stay at home mother, make them a "broodmare" or a "religious sect that is cult-like?" Who cares if Michelle chooses to have 19 kids, her body and her life. Why is loving children a bad thing? Meanwhile women pop out NUMEROUS kids everyday to several different fathers and keep collecting the welfare checks. Does that make them "cult like?" But it is not OK for a stable, loving, self supporting family to have as many kids as they choose? Also, since when is women having traditional roles such a bad thing? I personally think the most awarding but hardest job in the world is being a mother. Not everyone chooses to have kids and that is the right thing for them, just as it is the right thing for others to have a many as they choose. For me personally, when I was younger, my mind set was "I will never be a stay at home mother." Now in my 40's, I would give my right arm to be a "traditional family." I realize the need and importance of the mother taking care of the home but two kids is all I can handle. However, our neighbor up the road has 12 and loves everyone of them very much. They own successful gyms, are self supported and Christians! Dang these "cult" families are everywhere

Sure have watched it and have read a lot about the group they are affiliated with which is called Quiverfull.   I think the girls' lives are stifling and they are not really encouraged to do anything other than have children, lots of them.  
I'm happy to see the show go because my belief is these kids have been used as pawns for J-chelle and Jim Boob.  I feel so sorry for ALL the kids.  It's 2014 not 1914.  
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kramerica
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memory - 2014-11-20 11:22 PM Some of the children have gone to college or taken college classes. They are raising their kids the way my parents were raised. My dad was from a large family and they had to be responsible to watch their younger siblings. They are taught to be self sufficient and respectful, nothing cult like about that. The rules of courtship are made by each child. It was stated each time that the young adults chooses (not the parents) what limits they will set for their courtship and what to save for marriage. If only more parents could parent like the Duggars and instill the values of morality and being 1 of a family, not just me me me.

Really?  Which of the children went to college and what college?  How many have degrees?  I'll stand corrected if you have specifics.  
I'll admit I haven't watched the show recently as I just can't with these foolish parents so I don't know what they specifically discuss each week. 
I know their church group has some college "plus" program but it isn't accepted by any accreditted college or university in the U.S. 
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Yes, courses in college plus. Thomas Edison State College in NJ does accept college plus credits to name one. Regional Accreditation: Regional accreditation is the most recognized form of college accreditation. State universities, Harvard, Yale, and many private colleges such as Bryan College and Liberty University are regionally accredited. Jill- taking courses in nursing, Jessa - in business, Jinger-in music, Jana is in college plus and finishing on campus.
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kramerica
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memory - 2014-11-21 6:31 PM Yes, courses in college plus. Thomas Edison State College in NJ does accept college plus credits to name one. Regional Accreditation: Regional accreditation is the most recognized form of college accreditation. State universities, Harvard, Yale, and many private colleges such as Bryan College and Liberty University are regionally accredited. Jill- taking courses in nursing, Jessa - in business, Jinger-in music, Jana is in college plus and finishing on campus.

Collegeplus is a coaching program to CLEP out of courses.  I CLEP'd out of a few courses during college but 100% of my degree came from a state university.  
How many of these girl (Dugger) children will have a degree in a certain field?  Once they are married don't they give up their occupation to become a mommy?  
What campus is Jana attending? 
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Rolling J
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kramerica - 2014-11-21 5:28 PM

Rolling J - 2014-11-20 10:12 PM
kramerica - 2014-11-19 11:54 PM Good!  They are part of a religious sect that is cult-like, imho. Girls/women have one role and one role only. J-chelle is a broodmare. I have always felt so sorry for the girls especially in this family. They are treated like built in babysitters and then are expected to be broodies themselves when they turn 18. No higher education for any of these poor kids. 
Have you even watched the show or read anything about the Duggers? Jill was married at the age of 23 and Jessa at the age of 22. And gasp, Jenna, their oldest daughter, is 24 and NOT MARRIED. Hardly, think they are shoving them out the door "to be broodies when they turn 18." Jill was/is a successful mid-wife and by her own accounts loves her job very much. I also remember the episode where a couple of the girls were training to be EMT's with the local fire department, plus some of the older girls are also successful authors. And as far as Jill and Derek having a baby right away, they openly talk about how THEY CHOOSE not to use birth control and they view children as a blessing. Why if a woman chooses to have kids and be a stay at home mother, make them a "broodmare" or a "religious sect that is cult-like?" Who cares if Michelle chooses to have 19 kids, her body and her life. Why is loving children a bad thing? Meanwhile women pop out NUMEROUS kids everyday to several different fathers and keep collecting the welfare checks. Does that make them "cult like?" But it is not OK for a stable, loving, self supporting family to have as many kids as they choose? Also, since when is women having traditional roles such a bad thing? I personally think the most awarding but hardest job in the world is being a mother. Not everyone chooses to have kids and that is the right thing for them, just as it is the right thing for others to have a many as they choose. For me personally, when I was younger, my mind set was "I will never be a stay at home mother." Now in my 40's, I would give my right arm to be a "traditional family." I realize the need and importance of the mother taking care of the home but two kids is all I can handle. However, our neighbor up the road has 12 and loves everyone of them very much. They own successful gyms, are self supported and Christians! Dang these "cult" families are everywhere

Sure have watched it and have read a lot about the group they are affiliated with which is called Quiverfull.   I think the girls' lives are stifling and they are not really encouraged to do anything other than have children, lots of them.  
I'm happy to see the show go because my belief is these kids have been used as pawns for J-chelle and Jim Boob.  I feel so sorry for ALL the kids.  It's 2014 not 1914.  

Why is it so hard for you to remotely understand that some women DO VIEW children as a BLESSING? It is their right to choose if they want to use birth control or not. This does not make them a cult. I googled Duggers and Quiverfull...most of the articles were the writers tell why "they" think the Duggers are part of the quivrfull movement. Other articles such as this one http://allirose.hubpages.com/hub/Why-Michelle-Duggar-Does-Not-Follo... states they are not. Now granted I did not spend hours reading each article, but I did not find one where the Duggars called themselves "quiverfulls." I did find where THEY call themselves "fundamental Baptist." In addition, Michelle is NOT against all birth control and they practice their own form of it. It is just not in a form of a pill or insert. They base their on more biblical teachings; these methods would not be my own personal preferences but I could care less about what they do in the privacy of their bedroom.

It is sad that fundamental Christian women who choose to raise their families, stay at home and have as many children they want are bashed by so many because it is not the same lifestyle as them. These women view caring for their husbands, home and children as THEIR JOBS and they do it with a glad heart. Yes, if you try to live by the word of the Bible, the Bible states the man is the head of the house but it also states that the man is to treat his wife with respect. I personally, think Michelle and Jim Bob achieve this. I also believe the people calling the Duggars narrow minded, judgmental people need to look within themselves and quit worrying so much about others. No one is bring up the millions of women all across this country that keep having kid after kid to collect the welfare check. These women also choose not to use birth control, but that is OK too because all the free condoms, my tax dollars are buying to stock in all the free clinics, are not easy to come by (insert total sarcasm). However, the Duggars are self supporting, their kids cared for, loved, clothed, feed and educated and they are "cult" like.

Very honestly, the longer this post goes on the more I am beginning to have a harder time understanding why there is so much dislike towards this family, so I have said my pace and I am sure everyone knows where I stand of this topic by now. LOL!!! If you don't like the Duggars don't watch them, YOUR freedom, YOUR choice!!!! However, there are those of us who do like them and I sincerely hope TLC keeps them on the air. Love me some Duck Dynasty too!!!!
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I do watch the show sometimes and I like it. To some that have mentioned about how they afford this many kids. I've heard that they shop at second hand stores, they got out of debt younger and didn't buy anything unless they paid cash. Jim Bob is a licensed realtor, and owns several commercial properties in his local area as an investor. To each their own...
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