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Location: Montana | What is a career/job that makes decent money and allows time for barrel racing and rodeo? I work for my folks, but they would like to retire in the next few years and the family business is not one I can run by myself (too much work involved for one person).
So I'm trying to find something that will make me the money that I can use to pursue my horse goals, but will also allow me time to do so. I'm sure there isn't a "perfect" job out there, but there has to be something that kind of fits the bill or is close. And if college is involved, I'm not against it. Thanks!  |
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | Nursing can work. I am fortunate enough to have a job that is flexible and works with me when I need to do something with the horses. As long as I do my work......
I was an ER nurse too for years and worked night shift and had every other weekend off, so that was good too. And, If I needed to haul horses for breeding, etc. I just did it in the morning when I got off. |
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Location: North Dakota | I went to school for 8 years to become an optometrist. I now own my own clinic. If I want to block off my schedule and go do something, I have that freedom.
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Location: Montana | redmansmyman11 - 2014-11-20 10:15 AM you'll find that job on the shelf between the unicorns and pegasus
Thanks LRQHS. My cousin's wife just got her RN and she is having a hard time finding a job around here.
Thanks R_Beau...my idea of jobs is kind of narrow, so sometimes others have more ideas.
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| I am an in-house CPA for a wholesale company and I love the flexibility I have with my job. Of course, I cannot take off for weeks at a time, esp. in the spring and at the end of the year. But for the most part, if I want to go to a big show, they have no problem with it. Also, I have the capability to work from home or anywhere remotely, which is really handy when the weather gets bad. It is a comfortable living and my horses and I definitely do not want for anything. |
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| Just curious, do your folks know you arent interested in taking over the family business? Maybe they are expecting you to take over the reins when they retire. |
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Location: Montana | kramerica - 2014-11-20 10:23 AM Just curious, do your folks know you arent interested in taking over the family business? Maybe they are expecting you to take over the reins when they retire.
kramerica: Yes and no to your question. They would like me to take it over but they know I can't do it by myself. I think they kind of hope that someone could take it over with me that would want to do it, but that someone hasn't come up yet.
Griz: If I could find a sugar daddy, I would! LOL. Have you been talking to LRQHS again???
Bowersk: I was thinking of accounting because there are quite a few jobs in my area for that, and the hours for the most part are pretty good. I'm just mostly wanting some ideas. :) |
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | What is the family business? I might come take it over.......oh wait, you're in Montana!!! |
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Location: Oklahoma | Could you take over the family business and have other employees that help you out while you're gone? If it's just mindless paperwork and whatnot you need help with you should be able to have an assistant or full time employee doing those things that don't require supervision.
I work for a family business (my husband runs it, but I'm not that in control of things) and it's fairly easy for me to take off to the vet as long as it's not the first of the month or the first couple days of the first of the week I have to do payroll..... so all in all there are about 7-8 days that I just absolutley cannot miss without trying to make other arrangements. 2-3 day shows aren't that big of a deal.. and it helps that I just work till 12 on Friday, so if I just work thru my lunches all week I don't feel bad about not working on Fridays! This job is part of the reason why I got back into running barrels. I make enough money to comfortably do jackpots and some bigger open shows, but not enough to take off and try to make a run for the NFR. I could probably make more money if I put my degree to use and worked somewhere else, but the flexibility means more to me right now.
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Location: Montana | LRQHS - 2014-11-20 10:43 AM What is the family business? I might come take it over.......oh wait, you're in Montana!!! It is a car dealership and we run it ourselves without employees. My dad and I mostly do all the work now (whether physical labor or paperwork) and my mom keeps books. I know the business inside and out, but even moving a car across town to a shop or something takes 2 people.
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LRQHS - 2014-11-20 10:43 AM What is the family business? I might come take it over.......oh wait, you're in Montana!!! It is a car dealership and we run it ourselves without employees. My dad and I mostly do all the work now (whether physical labor or paperwork) and my mom keeps books. I know the business inside and out, but even moving a car across town to a shop or something takes 2 people.
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | FlyingJT - 2014-11-20 11:54 AM
mtcanchazer - 2014-11-20 11:48 AM
LRQHS - 2014-11-20 10:43 AM What is the family business? I might come take it over.......oh wait, you're in Montana!!! It is a car dealership and we run it ourselves without employees. My dad and I mostly do all the work now (whether physical labor or paperwork) and my mom keeps books. I know the business inside and out, but even moving a car across town to a shop or something takes 2 people.
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Location: Texas | No to accounting. That's what I originally wanted to do and if you want to make any real money you will be working your a$$ off. And during tax season forget about your horses. You will have the money to hire someone to take care of them but kind of defeats the purpose. I say go into Marketing, that's what i'm doing and I have yet to find a negative thing about it. Simple 4 year degree, crazy good salaries, and flexible schedules. Plus super useful if you ever want a horse business. |
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Location: Montana | outrundaizy - 2014-11-20 4:48 PM No to accounting. That's what I originally wanted to do and if you want to make any real money you will be working your a$$ off. And during tax season forget about your horses. You will have the money to hire someone to take care of them but kind of defeats the purpose. I say go into Marketing, that's what i'm doing and I have yet to find a negative thing about it. Simple 4 year degree, crazy good salaries, and flexible schedules. Plus super useful if you ever want a horse business.
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Location: Texas | mtcanchazer - 2014-11-20 5:51 PM outrundaizy - 2014-11-20 4:48 PM No to accounting. That's what I originally wanted to do and if you want to make any real money you will be working your a$$ off. And during tax season forget about your horses. You will have the money to hire someone to take care of them but kind of defeats the purpose. I say go into Marketing, that's what i'm doing and I have yet to find a negative thing about it. Simple 4 year degree, crazy good salaries, and flexible schedules. Plus super useful if you ever want a horse business. Interesting idea...thanks!
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Location: Minnesota | Dental Hygiene I work Mon-Thurs 7am-4pm and make a lot of money Plus I LOVE LOVE LOVE my job!! |
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Location: North Central Kansas | I can provide a lot of information on accounting if you are interested. I'm graduating in December with my bachelors degree in accounting and the job market is plentiful. I was accepted for 15 out of 16 on campus interview with a 3.5 GPA and no extracurricular activities or internship and no networking prior to attending Meet the Firms earlier in the semester. I ended up accepting 11 of the on campus interviews and got 5 office interview (one which I declined) and got 3 job offers. As far as accounting goes it is not all about tax there is also audit, advisory, and consulting. I took a job with a Big 4 firm (Big 4 is not for everyone). Yes, I will be working 50-80 hours during busy season, but I also get 25 days PTO and 10 paid holidays and can take sabbaticals at 20% pay. At Big 4 I know how quickly I will move up and will be making 6 figures before I'm 30. However, smaller local CPA firms are more flexible. I interviewed with a top 100 CPA firm and they offer telecommuting and condensed work weeks where say you work extra hours monday-thursday and don't work fridays.
I'm not trying to bash other business majors, but all of my accounting friends had no problems finding a job some went to Big 4, others regional and local firms, some to industry (which is a typical 40 hour work week), I even know someone who accepted an offer to work at a Coop. I have friends the college of business in other majors who are struggling to attain a job. My advice is to talk to as many people as possible to gain a good understanding of different career paths.
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Location: Montana | aquinnell - 2014-11-20 5:01 PM Dental Hygiene I work Mon-Thurs 7am-4pm and make a lot of money Plus I LOVE LOVE LOVE my job!!
Thanks ks cowgirl for the insight...anything with flexible hours or where you can work Monday to Thursday is most interesting to me.
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Location: North Central Kansas | mtcanchazer - 2014-11-20 6:06 PM
aquinnell - 2014-11-20 5:01 PM Dental Hygiene I work Mon-Thurs 7am-4pm and make a lot of money Plus I LOVE LOVE LOVE my job!!
Thanks ks cowgirl for the insight...anything with flexible hours or where you can work Monday to Thursday is most interesting to me.
It is possible, but it would be with a small local CPA firm. The hours however, would be over 40 during January-April if you are doing tax. |
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Location: Home....Smiling M Farms | I know a lot of girls that are teachers and honestly, that sounds about right. Work Monday-Friday, day shift hours. No weekends, off summers, most holidays. Money isn't great but it works with the horse schedule.
I've debated going back to school a little longer to do that. I could be a high school since teacher with the education I've already got. Only thing is that it would most likely be a pay cut. :( |
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| I am a teacher, and just putting this out there make over $40,000.00 I won't give the exact amount but this just gives some a general idea. I know some states pay less and some pay more. It also depends on your experience and your degrees. Some teachers in my district make $60,000.00.
Could I make more? Yes, but I also still have enough to have horses and show every weekend. |
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| I've got a pretty neat job, but I'm pretty much homeless. I take my horses with me chasing pipelines. I've met family and wonderful friends and horse world contacts all along the way, people that take care of me and that I'd do anything for. I met my husband along the way, too, and gained even more family.
It's been a great way to run barrels in all parts of the country. Texas has been especially good to me, I've been here almost 4 years in a pretty localized area. I bought a giant 5th wheel with four slide outs, it's very much home!!
I'm an environmental inspector specializing in erosion control, site stabilization, and reclamation. Entry level pay is $600 a day. I've been a boss for three years, the pay is better. A lot of that is per dium and mileage and other pay outs that are non taxeable. Sometimes the hours can be quite overwhelming to get everything done, but I'm doing it. Plenty of folks I know work part of the year then go home, then pick up another job when they're ready. It can be done. When we get our place paid for, I'm going rod doing in the summers!
I have a Bachelors of Science in Rangeland Ecology and Watershed Management from University of Wyoming. That sort of degree and some common sense and the ability to think for yourself will get you pretty much anywhere you want to go in the pipeline or private energy company world you need to go.
The private company world (google EHS coordinator, etc) are home based, have weekends off, and run about 75,000-100,000 a year. I might go for that once we get settled down. Right now, we're too busy rolling! It's very much an adventure.
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Location: Minnesota | ks_cowgirl - 2014-11-20 6:15 PM mtcanchazer - 2014-11-20 6:06 PM aquinnell - 2014-11-20 5:01 PM Dental Hygiene I work Mon-Thurs 7am-4pm and make a lot of money Plus I LOVE LOVE LOVE my job!!
Thanks ks cowgirl for the insight...anything with flexible hours or where you can work Monday to Thursday is most interesting to me. It is possible, but it would be with a small local CPA firm. The hours however, would be over 40 during January-April if you are doing tax.
For dental hygiene yes thats considered "full time". Most offices around here are also open fridays, but only for half days. I make right around $65000 a year and Ive only been out of school 2 years |
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Location: Montana | Thanks for the insight guys! I thought of becoming a teacher, as my mom was a teacher. The kid thing doesn't help, but as long as they are well behave I could probably do it, LOL.
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| I was going to suggest teaching - at least you would know you had holidays, part of a summer and weekends off.
My dad was a principal for 35+ years - if you decide to get into the administrative area, the pay is decent (although headaches come with it too). |
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| Why don't you do something you love? If you don't have a passion for some of the jobs mentioned so far, it won't be great for you or those you are helping. What do you want to do? What do you think you would do well? Don't just think of a job with the fewest required hours. Also, just because it appears there aren't many required hours, doesn't mean you won't work a lot of extra hours. You may just have to put in those hours in addition to your required hours and do that extra work without pay to get it all done. |
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Location: Arkansas | I have a marketing degree, but I know work in Admin for the Federal Government. The pay is great, and you start earning annual and sick leave right away. You can also advance very quickly if you have a good work ethic (at least where I am). I work 7-3:30 M-F. |
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| outrundaizy - 2014-11-20 5:48 PM No to accounting. That's what I originally wanted to do and if you want to make any real money you will be working your a$$ off. And during tax season forget about your horses. You will have the money to hire someone to take care of them but kind of defeats the purpose. I say go into Marketing, that's what i'm doing and I have yet to find a negative thing about it. Simple 4 year degree, crazy good salaries, and flexible schedules. Plus super useful if you ever want a horse business.
It really depends on what kind of accountant you are. If it's just bookkeeping, the stress really just isn't much of a factor. I've been an accountant for years, and I must be a lucky one because I've yet to feel like I have zero time for my horses or supremely stressed out because of work. Accountant does not always equal doing taxes. It's a solid living that you could literally move anywhere in the country and find a job. I have nothing bad to say about it. My sister just got her marketing degree and had a hard time finding a job, but she did eventually find her dream job working at a newspaper, so the jobs are out there, but it may take a bit to find them. Good luck and let us know what you end up doing! |
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| I'm a teacher, so work 180 days a year. I have rental properties to produce an extra income on top of my salary. This seems ideal, but I am still find myself seeking other avenues lol....I still have to take time off, and am always wanting more money!
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Location: Texas | I am a respiratory therapist and if you work in a hospital it is typically three twelve hour shifts per week and every other weekend. So most have plenty of time to ride and compete. It also pays pretty good. On average 60 to 75 per year. Depending on shift and city you work in. I left the hospitL and am in medical sales now and make substantially more. There are 2 yr and 3 yr degrees In Respiratory therapy. Good luck |
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Location: Montana | sodapop - 2014-11-21 5:57 AM Why don't you do something you love? If you don't have a passion for some of the jobs mentioned so far, it won't be great for you or those you are helping. What do you want to do? What do you think you would do well? Don't just think of a job with the fewest required hours. Also, just because it appears there aren't many required hours, doesn't mean you won't work a lot of extra hours. You may just have to put in those hours in addition to your required hours and do that extra work without pay to get it all done.
Sodapop, I would love to have horses as my job. I love working around them, training them, doing things with them and watching them progress. But since I don't have the facility or the knowledge yet to do it as a job, I don't see that as a possibility in the short term. Perhaps in 10-15 years it will be a possibility. Mostly I'm trying to find a job that I don't hate that will afford me what I want to do.
As for accounting, around here most of the jobs listed looking for accountants are 9-5 type jobs with a hospital or a government office or payrolling/bookkeeping type jobs. Yes there are CPA jobs around available too, but that isn't the ideal area I would like to go into (but would if the need arose). I was looking at our local rodeo schedules, and most rodeos are Saturdays (including slack) so possibly a 9-5 job would work for me.
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Location: Texas | mtcanchazer - 2014-11-20 7:58 PM Thanks for the insight guys! I thought of becoming a teacher, as my mom was a teacher. The kid thing doesn't help, but as long as they are well behave I could probably do it, LOL.
Montana may not have these, but alternative campuses. It is awesome. I get off at 345 and I don't worry about anything until the next morning. Discipline here is great. At a normal campus I don't think I would do the same. |
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Location: Kansas | aquinnell - 2014-11-20 7:17 PM ks_cowgirl - 2014-11-20 6:15 PM mtcanchazer - 2014-11-20 6:06 PM aquinnell - 2014-11-20 5:01 PM Dental Hygiene I work Mon-Thurs 7am-4pm and make a lot of money Plus I LOVE LOVE LOVE my job!!
Thanks ks cowgirl for the insight...anything with flexible hours or where you can work Monday to Thursday is most interesting to me. It is possible, but it would be with a small local CPA firm. The hours however, would be over 40 during January-April if you are doing tax.
How many years is it? I've been wanting to go to school for it for awhile, but most programs I've looked into was a 2 year program. |
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| mtcanchazer - 2014-11-20 11:18 AM
redmansmyman11 - 2014-11-20 10:15 AM you'll find that job on the shelf between the unicorns and pegasus
Thanks LRQHS. My cousin's wife just got her RN and she is having a hard time finding a job around here.
Thanks R_Beau...my idea of jobs is kind of narrow, so sometimes others have more ideas.
I have never know of many jobs to be in Around Here I think it is because it is really far out but every where else in the country has a BIGGGGGGGG need for nurses. Tell her to not give up. |
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Location: Nebraska | I went into nursing. I recently graduated so haven't really been able to schedule around barrel races yet but the floor I work on does self scheduling. I work 3 12's a week and every 3rd weekend. If you're undecided on what you want to do, shadow! |
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| outrundaizy - 2014-11-20 5:48 PM
No to accounting. That's what I originally wanted to do and if you want to make any real money you will be working your a$$ off. And during tax season forget about your horses. You will have the money to hire someone to take care of them but kind of defeats the purpose. I say go into Marketing, that's what i'm doing and I have yet to find a negative thing about it. Simple 4 year degree, crazy good salaries, and flexible schedules. Plus super useful if you ever want a horse business.
What does your job in marketing involve? I am undecided in my major right now but I want to do 4 yrs and the marketing area interests me..thanks |
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Location: Oklahoma | I love my new job! I work for a casino in the vault. I count money! I work 10 pm to 6:15 am right now my days off are sundays and Mondays. I have had so much time, and with winter here I can ride during the day (don't have lights) and I can do my errands and whatever else. After my 90 days (I have 30 more to go) I can use my PTO time which I am accruing during probation period. Right now I am just jackpotting so I haven't really missed any races yet. As far as the big 2-3 day races to go, gonna save my pto for the ones I want to go to. Not sure if this is what I want to do forever but it is working now. Also, we get bonuses every six months. If first shift ever comes open I might consider that, because it is from 6:00 to 2:00 pm. Also, they have a soft count that is only the morning shift from 5:00 am to 1:00 pm. I really debating about soft count, but decided that I am gonna stay where I am at because I like it so well, hate to switch and not like it. Maybe this spring I will switch. The only bad thing about what I am doing now is leaving my husband at night time even though I see him more now. |
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Location: SE Louisiana | Hit Man/Woman... 10-12 contracts/year... Figure a week to set each one up.... Set your own price. (I'd start at 50k, plus expenses) Travel the world... Tax free!!! That leaves no less than 40 weeks/year free to race!!   |
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Location: North Dakota | Don't discount anything. If you told me in highschool I'd be working for one of the largest energy producers in the US and loving it, I'd have thought you were nuts! There's such a huge variety of jobs within the one company, many having nothing to do with actual energy production. I'm currently a dispatcher and am going to school for Computer Informatin Systems and hope to stay with the company forever. Dispatching isn't a bad gig for now. If you work full time you work 12 hr shifts alternating between Wed/Thurs one week and Mon/Tues/Fri/Sat/Sun the next. Plus unlimited overtime, ability to trade shifts with people, generous vacation and sick time, and overall decent pay (not making the big bucks but I make double what my friends my age make). |
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Location: Minnesota | hoofs_in_motion - 2014-11-21 10:10 AM aquinnell - 2014-11-20 7:17 PM ks_cowgirl - 2014-11-20 6:15 PM mtcanchazer - 2014-11-20 6:06 PM aquinnell - 2014-11-20 5:01 PM Dental Hygiene I work Mon-Thurs 7am-4pm and make a lot of money Plus I LOVE LOVE LOVE my job!!
Thanks ks cowgirl for the insight...anything with flexible hours or where you can work Monday to Thursday is most interesting to me. It is possible, but it would be with a small local CPA firm. The hours however, would be over 40 during January-April if you are doing tax.
I went threw an "accelerated" program and finished in 2.5 years (after generals are complete) but typically DH is a 4 year degree |
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Location: North Dakota | komet. - 2014-11-22 5:00 AM Hit Man/Woman... 10-12 contracts/year... Figure a week to set each one up.... Set your own price. (I'd start at 50k, plus expenses ) Travel the world... Tax free!!! That leaves no less than 40 weeks/year free to race!!
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| cavyrunsbarrels - 2014-11-22 3:09 PM
Don't discount anything. If you told me in highschool I'd be working for one of the largest energy producers in the US and loving it, I'd have thought you were nuts! There's such a huge variety of jobs within the one company, many having nothing to do with actual energy production. I'm currently a dispatcher and am going to school for Computer Informatin Systems and hope to stay with the company forever. Dispatching isn't a bad gig for now. If you work full time you work 12 hr shifts alternating between Wed/Thurs one week and Mon/Tues/Fri/Sat/Sun the next. Plus unlimited overtime, ability to trade shifts with people, generous vacation and sick time, and overall decent pay (not making the big bucks but I make double what my friends my age make).
Yep I am in the same boat as you. Dispatch for the sheriffs officer. We all work mostly 12s which mean you only work half as much during the year as your average 9-5 gig. We work every other weekend but tons of PTO and people are willing to help you out. I pickup a lot of OT and trades in the winter and they don't mind helping me out in the summer.
I currently work one of the few 10s we offer. I have every thurs fri off and every other sat/sun. I love that part about my shift. I work nights 4p-2a but it is nice because I can ride during the day before its dark.
I am working towards being a probation officer. Which is typically 8-4:30 but you do have some nights/weekend times but its pretty flexible.
Dispatch doesn't require a degree and depending on the type of dispatching it can be really helpful. Now corrections/probation does require typically a 4 year. And with that comes student loans... do you have about as much money as a minimum wage person until the loans are paid off |
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