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| I'm wanting to make my decision in the next month or so on who to breed my own daughter of merridoc mare to. Here is her pedigree http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/cee+the+view
I have a couple in mind but want more opinions.. What would cross best? What would have best resale? Etc.... $2500 ish budget. |
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| What are some of your must haves? Anything particular you want to improve? Race type breeding? |
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| I would cross her on a FWF stud, there are a lot of nice ones out there to choose from! Or Blazin Jetolena. :)
Edited by RHRanch 2014-11-24 7:59 AM
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Location: Desert Land | Please sell her to me and let me make that decision!! :)
But really though...If she were mine I would be breeding her to Lions Share of Fame or First Down French. |
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Location: Kansas | TheOldGrayMare - 2014-11-24 9:15 AM Please sell her to me and let me make that decision!! :)
But really though...If she were mine I would be breeding her to Lions Share of Fame or First Down French.
I like First down french as well. |
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | Anything with Tinys Gay that close would go to El Scorcho for me. |
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Location: The barn...where else? SW Missouri | TheOldGrayMare - 2014-11-24 9:15 AM
Please sell her to me and let me make that decision!! :)
But really though...If she were mine I would be breeding her to Lions Share of Fame or First Down French.
Lions Share of Fame for sure. My friend is running one and I love him. He's sweet and kind and is so athletic!!! Someday I hope to have one. |
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Location: Kentucky | Nice mare. Love that Tinys Gay. You have a lot of great options with that budget. Tough call. |
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| Lions Share of Fame or MP Jet to the Sun!
Edited by bowersk 2014-11-24 10:35 AM
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| RunNbarrels - 2014-11-24 10:27 AM
TheOldGrayMare - 2014-11-24 9:15 AM
Please sell her to me and let me make that decision!! :)
But really though...If she were mine I would be breeding her to Lions Share of Fame or First Down French.
Lions Share of Fame for sure. My friend is running one and I love him. He's sweet and kind and is so athletic!!! Someday I hope to have one.
Ditto! |
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Location: Gainesville, TX | stayceem - 2014-11-23 11:57 PM
What are some of your must haves? Anything particular you want to improve? Race type breeding?
I agree with this. What are your ultimate goals and concerns with the foal? Is marketing a specific concern. Do you only want to keep a filly? a colt? Do you want allaround or just barrels? Do you want to breed later. With a mare that nice, you have lots of options. |
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| I'd still love to see a picture of her. |
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| Here she is...
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| I am mainly looking for A stallion that is proven and speaks for itself. (keeping budget in mind). One that will have great re-sale on its babies, but will also be a great prospect for my barn if I decide to keep. If I get a colt I may even keep as a stallion for future breeding. I am still up in the air with what I want to do for sure. But I want an impressive cross that people will be seeking for their next prospect if thats the route I go...
I know, this probably doesn't help much :-) |
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | Tle2424 - 2014-11-24 12:36 PM
I am mainly looking for A stallion that is proven and speaks for itself. (keeping budget in mind). One that will have great re-sale on its babies, but will also be a great prospect for my barn if I decide to keep. If I get a colt I may even keep as a stallion for future breeding. I am still up in the air with what I want to do for sure. But I want an impressive cross that people will be seeking for their next prospect if thats the route I go...
I know, this probably doesn't help much :-)
Then try this one....
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/five+bar+cartel
http://www.robicheauxranchinc.com/stallions
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Location: Gainesville, TX | A dash to fame bred sire would certainly be a great outcross as would a firewater flit. There are several options. As far as one that might throw a good enough one others would be interested in a stallion prospect.
Blazin Jetolena (my personal pick for her in your price range, not a complete outcross but you have a few generations between common names--purported to be smaller)
Chasin Firewater (booked full but may still be available via stallion auctions--I've heard some were hot though I had a filly who was decent minded but definitely not a dead head)
Slick by Design (has a big book, could affect market, super popular and gritty though)
Shawne Bug Leo (I've heard good things about the mind on these and they tend to be STOUT)
Firewater ta Fame
LSOF
Alive N Firen (also purported to be hot--Pozzi's Duke)
However if you were willing to jump up your budget just a touch, you would really jump up in terms of market value and DEFINITELY in terms of stallion prospects. All at 3500 with significant resale and quality
Eddie Stinson
A Streak of Fling
Firewaterontherocks (also booked full for 2015--check stallion auctions)
Another Sunfrost one I would consider that I bet you could get in a stallion auction at your budget is PC Frenchman's Hayday.
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Location: Arkansas | I like the ones suggested but I think my pick would be Judge Cash. Just a little above your budget though
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| i love five bar cartel.... but is stud fee is 4500 |
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | aqhabarrelchic1 - 2014-11-24 1:41 PM
i love five bar cartel.... but is stud fee is 4500
Yes, it is, but there are considerations to some mares...... |
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Location: Texas | LSOF, or what about Firewater ta Fame? |
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Location: Gainesville, TX | gypsy1997 - 2014-11-24 1:31 PM
I like the ones suggested but I think my pick would be Judge Cash. Just a little above your budget though
Agree with this one too. |
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Location: Madill Ok | If it was me, I would be looking for something with a short back and really strong loins, cant tell from that photo but she looks very long. Very nice pedigree, you could breed her to just about anything, I would be looking to add some easy jet in her mating if you can find one with a good daughter of easy jet on the bottom side. |
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | LRQHS - 2014-11-24 1:44 PM
aqhabarrelchic1 - 2014-11-24 1:41 PM
i love five bar cartel.... but is stud fee is 4500
Yes, it is, but there are considerations to some mares......
He, also, has a butt you could bounce a quarter off of lol. |
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| Any thoughts on A streak of fling? How would he cross with my merridoc mare? |
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Location: Where I am happiest | Joleen - 2014-11-24 7:42 PM If it was me, I would be looking for something with a short back and really strong loins, cant tell from that photo but she looks very long. Very nice pedigree, you could breed her to just about anything, I would be looking to add some easy jet in her mating if you can find one with a good daughter of easy jet on the bottom side.
This guy fits this. http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/index.php?query_type=horse&h=TECHNICOLOURS&g=5&cellpadding=0&small_font=1&l= |
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Location: Where I am happiest | Tle2424 - 2014-11-27 9:58 PM Any thoughts on A streak of fling? How would he cross with my merridoc mare? A Streak Of Fling is awsome. However, looking at your mare's pic physically I wouldnt go there. Although the same people also have this guy. http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/a+dash+ta+streak
http://www.fultonranch.com/
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Location: Where I am happiest | Tle2424 - 2014-11-28 11:35 AM How is ASOF built?
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Location: Desert Land | ThreeCorners - 2014-11-28 9:41 AM Tle2424 - 2014-11-28 11:35 AM How is ASOF built? long
VERY long. |
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| So give me some bigger names like ASOF that aren't long, but short backed and can turn. |
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| There's a stud in CA who is out of a Merridoc mare and First Down Dash on top. He has babies out there absolutely tearing it up right now. (One won the WPRA CA Circuit Futurity year end and was 3rd in Waco, and another own Turquoise Circuit, and that's just this year out of his early foal crops). It seems to be a cross that works really well. I might look for First Down Dash (Willy Wanta Dash) for your mare. I'd say breed her to this stud himself but I'm not sure how you feel about more Merridoc:
http://www.lyndeestairs.com/stallion.htm
I've seen a lot of his babies and none were long. Doesn't seem to matter what he's bred to, the baby is always short backed with good hip and shoulder size. |
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Location: Where I am happiest | Tle2424 - 2014-11-30 10:14 AM So give me some bigger names like ASOF that aren't long, but short backed and can turn. Frenchmans Fabulous,Firewaterontherocks, Blazen Jetolena, Epic Leader, Slick By Design.
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Location: Where I am happiest | HorseMommyFiveO - 2014-11-30 10:25 AM There's a stud in CA who is out of a Merridoc mare and First Down Dash on top. He has babies out there absolutely tearing it up right now. (One won the WPRA CA Circuit Futurity year end and was 3rd in Waco, and another own Turquoise Circuit, and that's just this year out of his early foal crops ). It seems to be a cross that works really well. I might look for First Down Dash (Willy Wanta Dash ) for your mare. I'd say breed her to this stud himself but I'm not sure how you feel about more Merridoc: http://www.lyndeestairs.com/stallion.htm I've seen a lot of his babies and none were long. Doesn't seem to matter what he's bred to, the baby is always short backed with good hip and shoulder size.
He is a really nice horse! He has very few foals and they all seem to want to be 1D horses. |
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